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You go girl @ArcticFemme ! What a wonderful update. Thank you for sharing and congrats. You got him OUT of your system. I love that you called him that jigglypuff shaped boy , that's how I know you are done.
@WonderGirl2U
People can't give what they don't have to give. Can't teach what they don't know or understand. I agree that parenting is a big part of the problem, as is society, sexism, racism, misogyny, etc. We have to focus our energy on fixing what we can IMO.
This.
I had this whole long post expanding on this, but I just saw her edit.
I don't have a clue about that, I don't understand it myself.
I have an older brother. Very successful with an equally successful wife and a large family. He didn't put me up on game. So, you probably didn't miss out on anything there. It seems to me he was just lucky to be a successful black man in a time when there are a ton of single, successful black women looking for a decent black man to marry.
@WonderGirl2U
People can't give what they don't have to give. Can't teach what they don't know or understand. I agree that parenting is a big part of the problem, as is society, sexism, racism, misogyny, etc. We have to focus our energy on fixing what we can IMO.
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ETA: I know some mothers have never been taught themselves. My question is, if you know you've never seen a healthy relationship or had one yourself, why REPEATEDLY continue the cycle by having multiple children??? If you know you're not doing that well in life, why have four to five kids to take down with you?
I'm in here tearing up like I'm in a field of onions. You deserve all the happiness your heart can hold.UPDATE: Aaaaand, like clockwork he's started sending me flirty texts... @Kalani, you called it!
He sent me one two weeks ago... I didn't respond-- almost didn't recognize the number at first
He sent another on Monday... no response
Today he sent me a text asking if I'd like to work an art show he's hosting (it's pretty big here in the city). Though it would be some nice extra change... I'll pass so I didn't respond. I might still attend to support my artist friends who are participating, but not without a tall, fine date.
He sent me a friend request on FB. Rejected. I'm not playing with these dudes anymore. #savagelife
I'm not attracted to that Jigglypuff shaped boy in the least bit anymore. No Pokemon Go here. I have no idea what I ever saw in him. I was vulnerable in a new, unfamiliar surrounding and he took advantage of that.
Thanks everyone for your kind words and tough love. I'm proud of the willpower I've had to not reach out to him these last couple of months. No contact is exactly what I needed to move on. I feel powerful and unstoppable once again!
In absolute agreement
All we can do is focus on being that woman and growing into that parent. They lies your only power in the issues at hand. IMHO
There isn't much a mother can do to teach her daughter about love and relationships because it's all talk in the end. We're stubborn, hard-headed, and best learn from experience. Aside from encouraging your daughter to not make any mistakes that can have permanent consequences, it's a waste of time to be frank-- UNLESS you have a daughter with a cautious and responsible personality by nature. I only know a handful of those.
aBut see, I think this is a fatalistic way of looking at it. I feel it's the responsibility of older women to sit younger women down and tell them the hard truths about love and life. Now whether or not the younger women listen (and I'll concede that most will not), that's doesn't absolve us from the responsibility.
Previous generations of women passed wisdom down one to the next, but the chain was broken and now we have a whole generation of women dealing with problems that could be avoided or at least minimized if just ONE elder sat her down and set her straight. If your (general you) mother didn't know, that's a different story. I was fortunate enough to have a series of "mothers" throughout my life that took me under their wings and taught me what I needed to know (and yes, I only listened part of the time so it didn't stop me from making stupid mistakes.)
I'm a rebel to my very core in pretty much every area of my life, but I also went through a lot of unnecessary b.s. because I was hopelessly naive about men. My mother's only advice was the usual "don't bring a baby in here." Nothing about vetting a man, dating, anything like that. It was always trial and error. My father was the same way. In every relationship thread, someone always says a variation of "but that's just common sense. How come y'all don't know that basic information?" and I always wonder why they can't see that not everyone has the same advantages. Not everyone has mothers/fathers, older sisters/brothers or uncles or aunts that told them what to watch out for (and truth be told, sometimes our own families will give the worst advice anyway.) Not everyone grew up in a non-chaotic household. Not everyone had people around them that built up their self esteem so much that they were immune to getting caught out there. Not everyone has an older woman in their life that they can ask questions about love, sex, life. So I always try to find compassion for women who seem naive to things because I was there.
Anyway, like I said, I had to learn a lot the hard way, but now that I know what I know, I feel like if I can save one girl/woman even some of the heartache I went through, it'll be worth it.
@BK Bombshell I agree with you in theory but the reality is many older woman still don't acknowledge their mistakes so they are unable to help the next generation from repeating patterns.
It's easier to play victim or blame God instead of saying maybe I should have made different choices, stop giving chance after chance in the face of behavior not matching actions, stop badgering women for making choices they were too scared to make, stop shaming girls and coddling boys.
There are so many things that I'm downright disgusted with the elders in my family over.
Yep, my sister always says children learn what they LIVE, not what you say (and even do sometimes)I ended up replicating my mom & dad's relationship and NOT the "you is important" mantra my dad tried to instill in me.
Things along the lines of 'hi beautiful' and how he's been thinking about me lately and wants to know how I'm adjusting to the city. He suggested grabbing lunch sometime. He misses hanging out with me. That type of stuff. In the art show text he addressed me as a nickname he used to have for me back when he was chasing me. Boy bye. Not interested. Texts deleted. It's a game with him. He doesn't understand why I haven't attempted to reach out to him in over 2 months. He expected me to show up to events I know he's at in an attempt to bump into him like so many of the other girls he's played this game with (there are plenty still feenin' for him).
He better call Becky.
I do know that he is back to chasing one of his exes he was always crazy about. Back when we were just friends he'd complain about her to me all of the time because she was so emotionally unavailable-- that's why he broke up with her. But he admitted that her distance is why he always liked her... she was the one woman he couldn't fully have-- his exact words. Now she's back to giving him some attention and he's hooked again. That's what he likes... the chase and denial. It kills my ego that I gave in. It also kills my ego because I was once like her... but I've moved on physically and soon I'll be completely detached from him mentally. Let her deal with the BS. I can do better... much better.
I foolishly believed that a woman's power was in being able to hold the attention of a man. Not even. It's about being able to find happiness in solitude. It's about being so in love with and invested in yourself that the people in your life are bonuses and not necessities. You feel complete without them.
Gurl You dodged several bullets there! Dang...UPDATE:
I've run into him a few times since my last post and we're cordial. I actually ran into him the other day and we had a quick chat then I bounced.
What made me bump this thread was the post I quoted above. He and his ex are dating again. She came back ready to settle down and wanting him to be her man and of course he jumped at the chance.
...and he's cheating on her with a couple of women. I personally know one of them (she's a waitress at my favorite spot), and she doesn't use protection with him . He did something to upset the side chick and just a few minutes ago she started posting some subliminal messages on FB and tagged his girlfriend. She used that upside down face emoji which y'all know means it is about to go down . His girlfriend (the young woman mentioned in the quote) has serious trust issues because her father cheated on and abandoned her mother. She finally let her guard down to give Fat Albert a chance and he returned to his dog ways. When she finds out, she will be devastated. It will ruin her. I feel bad for her but I'm soooo glad I'm not a part of this messiness and nonsense.
I'm moving to one of my dream cities at the end of Spring so I've been busy with preparing for my move. I'm in a yoga class, I've been squatting daily so I have that high and tight , and I have fully transitioned to clean eating. I'm working on doubling my income by the end of the year. I can say from a spiritual perspective that God was truly looking out for me with this one. I couldn't imagine dealing with foolishness right now and being distracted from my goals.
Looking back, my idea of "power" was completely wrong. I thought he had power, and I thought his girlfriend had power because he wanted her. I foolishly believed that a woman's power was in being able to hold the attention of a man. Not even. It's about being able to find happiness in solitude. It's about being so in love with and invested in yourself that the people in your life are bonuses and not necessities. You feel complete without them. This guy I thought was so powerful is very broken. He's a playboy because he's insecure and needs the constant attention of women to feel good about himself. He was never really into this woman, he was just waiting on his chance to break her-- and he got it. She wasn't powerful either. Her elusiveness was a result of trust issues and not self love. She allowed herself to fall for his hype because she got lonely. I look at all of the women who are enamored with him and they are all broken in some way-- including me. I was new to a city and lonely-- he took advantage. He attracts many women who are attention-starved and he uses that to pull them in. They feel like they've won a prize when all they've won is an insecure flirt with a gut who is surrounded by a bunch of female "friends" that he's slept with. No woman who truly loves herself would deal with that. I can't believe I wanted him. *cue Beyonce's Best Thing I Never Had*
I'm taking a break from dating/men this year along with a celibacy and sobriety vow because I have a lot going on and don't need distractions. It is empowering! I've never paid this much attention to myself and it feels delightful. In the past when I've been single I filled my time with partying and casual relationships. I was also bitter and pushed people away because of it. I never did any self work. I'm taking a different approach this time. I've found joy in solitude and the removal of attachments. I've forgiven myself and moved on from the stupid stuff I've done. Thanks goodness no children came out of any of this! When the time comes to put myself back on the market, I can approach the dating process with more awareness. I've finally reclaimed my power.
But I ain't too enlightened to watch these fireworks...
UPDATE:
I've run into him a few times since my last post and we're cordial. I actually ran into him the other day and we had a quick chat then I bounced.
What made me bump this thread was the post I quoted above. He and his ex are dating again. She came back ready to settle down and wanting him to be her man and of course he jumped at the chance.
...and he's cheating on her with a couple of women. I personally know one of them (she's a waitress at my favorite spot), and she doesn't use protection with him . He did something to upset the side chick and just a few minutes ago she started posting some subliminal messages on FB and tagged his girlfriend. She used that upside down face emoji which y'all know means it is about to go down . His girlfriend (the young woman mentioned in the quote) has serious trust issues because her father cheated on and abandoned her mother. She finally let her guard down to give Fat Albert a chance and he returned to his dog ways. When she finds out, she will be devastated. It will ruin her. I feel bad for her but I'm soooo glad I'm not a part of this messiness and nonsense.
I'm moving to one of my dream cities at the end of Spring so I've been busy with preparing for my move. I'm in a yoga class, I've been squatting daily so I have that high and tight , and I have fully transitioned to clean eating. I'm working on doubling my income by the end of the year. I can say from a spiritual perspective that God was truly looking out for me with this one. I couldn't imagine dealing with foolishness right now and being distracted from my goals.
Looking back, my idea of "power" was completely wrong. I thought he had power, and I thought his girlfriend had power because he wanted her. I foolishly believed that a woman's power was in being able to hold the attention of a man. Not even. It's about being able to find happiness in solitude. It's about being so in love with and invested in yourself that the people in your life are bonuses and not necessities. You feel complete without them. This guy I thought was so powerful is very broken. He's a playboy because he's insecure and needs the constant attention of women to feel good about himself. He was never really into this woman, he was just waiting on his chance to break her-- and he got it. She wasn't powerful either. Her elusiveness was a result of trust issues and not self love. She allowed herself to fall for his hype because she got lonely. I look at all of the women who are enamored with him and they are all broken in some way-- including me. I was new to a city and lonely-- he took advantage. He attracts many women who are attention-starved and he uses that to pull them in. They feel like they've won a prize when all they've won is an insecure flirt with a gut who is surrounded by a bunch of female "friends" that he's slept with. No woman who truly loves herself would deal with that. I can't believe I wanted him. *cue Beyonce's Best Thing I Never Had*
I'm taking a break from dating/men this year along with a celibacy and sobriety vow because I have a lot going on and don't need distractions. It is empowering! I've never paid this much attention to myself and it feels delightful. In the past when I've been single I filled my time with partying and casual relationships. I was also bitter and pushed people away because of it. I never did any self work. I'm taking a different approach this time. I've found joy in solitude and the removal of attachments. I've forgiven myself and moved on from the stupid stuff I've done. Thanks goodness no children came out of any of this! When the time comes to put myself back on the market, I can approach the dating process with more awareness. I've finally reclaimed my power.
But I ain't too enlightened to watch these fireworks...
UPDATE:
It's about being able to find happiness in solitude. It's about being so in love with and invested in yourself that the people in your life are bonuses and not necessities. You feel complete without them. This guy I thought was so powerful is very broken. He's a playboy because he's insecure and needs the constant attention of women to feel good about himself. He was never really into this woman, he was just waiting on his chance to break her-- and he got it. She wasn't powerful either. Her elusiveness was a result of trust issues and not self love. She allowed herself to fall for his hype because she got lonely. I look at all of the women who are enamored with him and they are all broken in some way-- including me. I was new to a city and lonely-- he took advantage. He attracts many women who are attention-starved and he uses that to pull them in. They feel like they've won a prize when all they've won is an insecure flirt with a gut who is surrounded by a bunch of female "friends" that he's slept with. No woman who truly loves herself would deal with that. I can't believe I wanted him. *cue Beyonce's Best Thing I Never Had*
I'm taking a break from dating/men this year along with a celibacy and sobriety vow because I have a lot going on and don't need distractions. It is empowering! I've never paid this much attention to myself and it feels delightful. In the past when I've been single I filled my time with partying and casual relationships. I was also bitter and pushed people away because of it. I never did any self work. I'm taking a different approach this time. I've found joy in solitude and the removal of attachments. I've forgiven myself and moved on from the stupid stuff I've done. Thanks goodness no children came out of any of this! When the time comes to put myself back on the market, I can approach the dating process with more awareness. I've finally reclaimed my power.
But I ain't too enlightened to watch these fireworks...
UPDATE:
I've run into him a few times since my last post and we're cordial. I actually ran into him the other day and we had a quick chat then I bounced.
What made me bump this thread was the post I quoted above. He and his ex are dating again. She came back ready to settle down and wanting him to be her man and of course he jumped at the chance.
...and he's cheating on her with a couple of women. I personally know one of them (she's a waitress at my favorite spot), and she doesn't use protection with him . He did something to upset the side chick and just a few minutes ago she started posting some subliminal messages on FB and tagged his girlfriend. She used that upside down face emoji which y'all know means it is about to go down . His girlfriend (the young woman mentioned in the quote) has serious trust issues because her father cheated on and abandoned her mother. She finally let her guard down to give Fat Albert a chance and he returned to his dog ways. When she finds out, she will be devastated. It will ruin her. I feel bad for her but I'm soooo glad I'm not a part of this messiness and nonsense.
I'm moving to one of my dream cities at the end of Spring so I've been busy with preparing for my move. I'm in a yoga class, I've been squatting daily so I have that high and tight , and I have fully transitioned to clean eating. I'm working on doubling my income by the end of the year. I can say from a spiritual perspective that God was truly looking out for me with this one. I couldn't imagine dealing with foolishness right now and being distracted from my goals.
Looking back, my idea of "power" was completely wrong. I thought he had power, and I thought his girlfriend had power because he wanted her. I foolishly believed that a woman's power was in being able to hold the attention of a man. Not even. It's about being able to find happiness in solitude. It's about being so in love with and invested in yourself that the people in your life are bonuses and not necessities. You feel complete without them. This guy I thought was so powerful is very broken. He's a playboy because he's insecure and needs the constant attention of women to feel good about himself. He was never really into this woman, he was just waiting on his chance to break her-- and he got it. She wasn't powerful either. Her elusiveness was a result of trust issues and not self love. She allowed herself to fall for his hype because she got lonely. I look at all of the women who are enamored with him and they are all broken in some way-- including me. I was new to a city and lonely-- he took advantage. He attracts many women who are attention-starved and he uses that to pull them in. They feel like they've won a prize when all they've won is an insecure flirt with a gut who is surrounded by a bunch of female "friends" that he's slept with. No woman who truly loves herself would deal with that. I can't believe I wanted him. *cue Beyonce's Best Thing I Never Had*
I'm taking a break from dating/men this year along with a celibacy and sobriety vow because I have a lot going on and don't need distractions. It is empowering! I've never paid this much attention to myself and it feels delightful. In the past when I've been single I filled my time with partying and casual relationships. I was also bitter and pushed people away because of it. I never did any self work. I'm taking a different approach this time. I've found joy in solitude and the removal of attachments. I've forgiven myself and moved on from the stupid stuff I've done. Thanks goodness no children came out of any of this! When the time comes to put myself back on the market, I can approach the dating process with more awareness. I've finally reclaimed my power.
But I ain't too enlightened to watch these fireworks...
UPDATE:
I've run into him a few times since my last post and we're cordial. I actually ran into him the other day and we had a quick chat then I bounced.
What made me bump this thread was the post I quoted above. He and his ex are dating again. She came back ready to settle down and wanting him to be her man and of course he jumped at the chance.
...and he's cheating on her with a couple of women. I personally know one of them (she's a waitress at my favorite spot), and she doesn't use protection with him . He did something to upset the side chick and just a few minutes ago she started posting some subliminal messages on FB and tagged his girlfriend. She used that upside down face emoji which y'all know means it is about to go down . His girlfriend (the young woman mentioned in the quote) has serious trust issues because her father cheated on and abandoned her mother. She finally let her guard down to give Fat Albert a chance and he returned to his dog ways. When she finds out, she will be devastated. It will ruin her. I feel bad for her but I'm soooo glad I'm not a part of this messiness and nonsense.
I'm moving to one of my dream cities at the end of Spring so I've been busy with preparing for my move. I'm in a yoga class, I've been squatting daily so I have that high and tight , and I have fully transitioned to clean eating. I'm working on doubling my income by the end of the year. I can say from a spiritual perspective that God was truly looking out for me with this one. I couldn't imagine dealing with foolishness right now and being distracted from my goals.
Looking back, my idea of "power" was completely wrong. I thought he had power, and I thought his girlfriend had power because he wanted her. I foolishly believed that a woman's power was in being able to hold the attention of a man. Not even. It's about being able to find happiness in solitude. It's about being so in love with and invested in yourself that the people in your life are bonuses and not necessities. You feel complete without them. This guy I thought was so powerful is very broken. He's a playboy because he's insecure and needs the constant attention of women to feel good about himself. He was never really into this woman, he was just waiting on his chance to break her-- and he got it. She wasn't powerful either. Her elusiveness was a result of trust issues and not self love. She allowed herself to fall for his hype because she got lonely. I look at all of the women who are enamored with him and they are all broken in some way-- including me. I was new to a city and lonely-- he took advantage. He attracts many women who are attention-starved and he uses that to pull them in. They feel like they've won a prize when all they've won is an insecure flirt with a gut who is surrounded by a bunch of female "friends" that he's slept with. No woman who truly loves herself would deal with that. I can't believe I wanted him. *cue Beyonce's Best Thing I Never Had*
I'm taking a break from dating/men this year along with a celibacy and sobriety vow because I have a lot going on and don't need distractions. It is empowering! I've never paid this much attention to myself and it feels delightful. In the past when I've been single I filled my time with partying and casual relationships. I was also bitter and pushed people away because of it. I never did any self work. I'm taking a different approach this time. I've found joy in solitude and the removal of attachments. I've forgiven myself and moved on from the stupid stuff I've done. Thanks goodness no children came out of any of this! When the time comes to put myself back on the market, I can approach the dating process with more awareness. I've finally reclaimed my power.
But I ain't too enlightened to watch these fireworks...
This is AMAZING! Congrats sis, I'm working on my own empowerment and you've definitely inspired me. I do worry out my age and wonder if I have time to wait and if me taking out time for myself will prevent The One coming in my life. Did you have similar thoughts? If you did, how didyou quiet these thoughts?
"There is no equality in love," I replied solemnly. "Whenever it is a matter of choice for me of ruling or being ruled, it seems much more satisfactory to me to be the slave of a beautiful woman. But where shall I find the woman who knows how to rule, calmly, full of self-confidence, even harshly, and not seek to gain her power by means of petty nagging?