Do You Remember Surge 14 Hair Revitalizer?????

[IDareT'sHair]

Told ya so. Xcel 21 was a waste of my coins. That Surge 14 was so good it left my scalp tingling for hours.

@Aggie
It only has 3-4 "similar" ingredients in the new version and based on that Label, the "new version" is woefully lacking ...

 

[Aggie]

Here you go!

Girl I just saved this in an email to myself. I may have to look for some of those ingredients to make my own concoction if I find them.

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

@SunySydeofLyfe Okay one more question

When you first bought the Surge, do you remember what color the liquid was and if you had any floating herbs?

Compared to what it looks and smells like now?

I don’t remember seeing anything floating when I bought it. When I pulled this out my daughter (26) was like ewwww it’s going to be moldy....so I started pouring it down the drain and it looked perfectly normal (I contained myself and didn’t choke her). Let me get a glass and we can examine it together!

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That’s what gave it that bang and people was experiencing quick hair growth because of all that stimulation..They need to bring the original back..

*I see Ginseng is listed in the top 10 of its ingredient list..I have been adding panex ginseng to my diy mixes and you really notice a difference on your roots..

Happy Hair Growing!

Are those the little vials?

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Girl I just saved this in an email to myself. I may have to look for some of those ingredients to make my own concoction if I find them.

I was thinking the same thing. I was like sh*t who can I get to make this for me?

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Told ya so. Xcel 21 was a waste of my coins. That Surge 14 was so good it left my scalp tingling for hours.

I’m going to take my xcel ‘water’ and ferment some rice in it! Anything to get my hair growing!

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

Girl I just saved this in an email to myself. I may have to look for some of those ingredients to make my own concoction if I find them.

That’s what I’m doing now
Heads up, some of them are ‘spensive and you’re gonna have to find a dupe for Ethylhexyl Stearate. Someone recommended http://chemistscorner.com/cosmeticsciencetalk/discussion/5260/alternative-to-ethylhexyl-stearate
C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate or Isopropyl Myristate. I vote for the C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate because you can use it as is. The isopropyl is not soluble in water, but it needs to be soluble in alcohol. Which one, idk.
I found mostly everything on Amazon

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

That’s what I’m doing now
Heads up, some of them are ‘spensive and you’re gonna have to find a dupe for Ethylhexyl Stearate. Someone recommended http://chemistscorner.com/cosmeticsciencetalk/discussion/5260/alternative-to-ethylhexyl-stearate
C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate or Isopropyl Myristate. I vote for the C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate because you can use it as is. The isopropyl is not soluble in water, but it needs to be soluble in alcohol. Which one, idk.
I found mostly everything on Amazon

You are the real MVP!

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

That’s what I’m doing now
Heads up, some of them are ‘spensive and you’re gonna have to find a dupe for Ethylhexyl Stearate. Someone recommended http://chemistscorner.com/cosmeticsciencetalk/discussion/5260/alternative-to-ethylhexyl-stearate
C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate or Isopropyl Myristate. I vote for the C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate because you can use it as is. The isopropyl is not soluble in water, but it needs to be soluble in alcohol. Which one, idk.
I found mostly everything on Amazon

Still working my way down the list. I think I might have to substitute Trideceth-6, and Idopropynyl Butylcarbinate, and add my own fragrance

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

You are the real MVP!

Thanks, my brain is bursting trying to understand everything. I should have paid more attention in Chemistry class

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

It looks the same, if memory serves me correctly! It has a pink/purple tint to it.

**keep in mine this is the leave in**

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

It looks the same, if memory serves me correctly! It has a pink/purple tint to it.

**keep in mine this is the leave in**

That’s good enough for me lol. The pinkish tint is from the red ginseng I think. This is helpful.

 

[Aggie]

That’s what I’m doing now
Heads up, some of them are ‘spensive and you’re gonna have to find a dupe for Ethylhexyl Stearate. Someone recommended http://chemistscorner.com/cosmeticsciencetalk/discussion/5260/alternative-to-ethylhexyl-stearate
C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate or Isopropyl Myristate. I vote for the C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate because you can use it as is. The isopropyl is not soluble in water, but it needs to be soluble in alcohol. Which one, idk.
I found mostly everything on Amazon

Girl you are so on it right now.... Thanks a mil for all of the above. Will start looking into it.

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

Okay, as soon as I’m done researching, I’m gonna edit this post to show what I’ve added or exchanged and why. I got a lot of my information from Paula’s Choice Dictionary, MakingCosmetics.com website and Wikipedia.

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Still working my way down the list. I think I might have to substitute Trideceth-6, and Idopropynyl Butylcarbinate, and add my own fragrance

Okay, as soon as I’m done researching, I’m gonna edit this post to show what I’ve added or exchanged and why.

can you send the amazon cart too, please?

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Duplicate

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Wonder why the spray ingredients are so few! I like all the herbs in the leave in. These ingredients match my xcel21 spray.

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

*Essiac Tea contains Organic burdock root, organic sheep sorrel, organic slippery elm and organic (Turkey) rhubarb root.
*Articum Majus Root is Burdock Root
*I chose to start with Deionized water because it’s literally pure water lol
Here’s an old LHCF thread on it
https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/can-you-wash-your-hair-in-deionized-water.289223/

*This is for the screenshot of my Amazon cart I’m about to post

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

Disclaimer: Some of these things are expensive, so buy at your own risk lol


I tried to put it in order of how the ingredients are listed on the bottle, but Amazon lists the first item you put in cart as last, so read it from the bottom up. Whatever you see in the cart that’s not listed on the bottle is a substitute

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

Disclaimer: Some of these things are ‘spensive so buy at your own risk lol also I tried to put the ingredients in the order they’re listed on the bottle, but I’m tired y’all and my brain hurts
Just follow along the ingredients and anything you see different is a substitute

Read each image from the bottom up. Blame Amazon for how they’re listed.

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

Dang it! There’s a double post but I’m not deleting

 

[metro_qt]

I want the muccopolysaccharides, I was researching it this morning.
I found out that Aloe Vera has a big concentration of muccopolysaccharides as well.

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

I found Diazolidinyl Urea. It’s in Germabene ii
Use at your own risk.
https://www.brambleberry.com/germaben-preservative-p3972.aspx

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

Wonder why the spray ingredients are so few! I like all the herbs in the leave in. These ingredients match my xcel21 spray.

Where did you get this excerpt? I kept trying to tap the screen to read more

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Where did you get this excerpt? I kept trying to tap the screen to read more

Some Alopecia group. Let me try to find the link

 

[SunySydeofLyfe]

Where did you get this excerpt? I kept trying to tap the screen to read more

https://www.heralopecia.com/interact/threads/jennifers-story-alopecia-areata-age-38.1731/page-3

 

[Lita]

Are those the little vials?

@SunySydeofLyfe Hi! It’s the liquid capsules..I like to use them they open easily and doesn’t contain alcohol..One liquid capsule contains over 2,000 mg of standard ginseng extract..

Happy Hair Growing!

 

[ItsMeLilLucky]

https://www.heralopecia.com/interact/threads/jennifers-story-alopecia-areata-age-38.1731/page-3

Thanks hun!

 

[IDareT'sHair]

Still Spritzing away twice a day. No irritation or scalp soreness.