Could we have an updated-4a/b roll call? Apologies...

4a/b (mostly b) checking in.

See my album for all the products that I use. Elucence Moisturizing Shampoo and Conditioner is also one of my favorites :)
 
natalied said:
HI Ebony,

Can you share how you use the AVEDA Hang Straight? What does it do for your hair?

If I have a lot of new growth---usually after week 4 or 5---is when the AVEDA HANG STRAIGHT comes into play.

After I have rinsed the conditioner out of my hair I towel dry my hair and I apply it to the new growth and sparingly through out the rest of my hair. Then I sit under the dryer or blow dry. The girls at the AVEDA shop use it after they blow dry their hair--- but they are wearing their hair natural and use it to get the relaxed look. I really like it!!

What it does for my hair is it gives it that shiny straight sleek look with minimal product usage. It is not oily or greasy. AVEDA HANG STRAIGHT just gives it the look of "wow she has pretty hair"---- you see my hair and not the products (ie...oil sheen, oily moisturizing creams etc.)

Take care---- Ebony88
 
fellow 4a/b checking in

Shampoo:
NTM
Surge
CON-green and white bottle
Ion Clarifying Shampoo

Conditioners:
NTM Hair Mask
Elasta QP DPR-11
Nexxus Humectress
Suave Milk and Honey, Humecant

Reconstructors:
Aussie 3 Minute Miracle
Aphogee

Leave Ins:
NTM Silk Touch
Aussie Hair Insurance
Cantu Repair Cream
Garneir Fructis Long and Strong

Other:
Kemi Oyl
Elast QP Mango Butter
Doo Gro Stimulating Growth Oil
Proclaim Carrot Oil Cream
Ntm Serum
Surge 14
BB Super Gro
Isoplus Oil Sheen
Dark and Lovely Cholesterol
Motions CPR
Castor Oil
EVOO
 
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webby said:
I think I'm a 4...I just wanted to come in here to see what everyone else was doing to grow their hair :look: (taking notes)

Me too.
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I guess I should share mine... :ohwell:

Shampoo: PhytoSpecific Vital Force - I have been using this for 4 months and my hair loves it. I am going to try the PhytoSpecific Intense Nutrition next
ETA: I used the PhytoSpecific Intense Nutrition and that is EXCELLENT!!!!

Conditioners: PhytoSpecific Vital Force. I really don't know of anything else. Right now I am still trying out my Wheat Germ Conditioner by BPT. So far it is good.
ETA: I used Salerm Wheat Germ Mask and it's OK. I need to use it more to see what it really does.

Protein: Milky reconstructor. I don't think my hair really likes the Emergencee. (DC ladies I think it will be up for grabs too :cool: )
ETA: I have used the Aphogee 2 min reconstructor (a light cream protein that smells delightful) I think my hair likes this.

Leave-ins: Lacio Lacio, H-Two

Relaxer: Like I even need to go there... :lol:

Oils: Castor, Coconut, Jojoba
ETA: WGO, I have been using this for a few days now.

Oh Yeah, my hair is 4 abcdefg :lachen:

This is an EXCELLENT thread Mona. Good looking out!
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4a/b checking in :grin:

Shampoo: Elucence, Giovanni 3x treat, Tresemme clarifier
Deep Conditioners: Humecto (in tub) and Elasta qp DPR-11
Detangling CO: Elucence conditioner
Leave-ins: NTM cream leave-in & WGO mixed together, alternate w. Lacio Lacio
Light Protein: GBP
Heavy Protein: Nexxus Emergency
 
MonaLisa said:
@Pradalover - you've got great hair! See the Keracare utilization...got that
in common..;)...and another check for Mango Butter usage!

AWWWW thanks MonaLisa :kiss:
I just love Keracare products (the conditioner smells lovely). I have just started using EQP Mango Butter (also a lovely smell) - so far so good.

I forgot to add that I also use S-curl on my new growth
 
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@Nice - Heard good things about the Elucence. Considering adding as Adrienne uses it. Hair is looking good girl. I'm trying to keep up pace with you. Go Phyto!

@Dion - aka DPJ! Feeling you on the NTM/CON poos, noted the mask usage, got the Suaves, Aphoghee and check! another mango butter user!

I'm definitely seeing a pattern of product usage that seems to be working for this type hair on this board.

@ PhytoPusha! Your hair is a Phytolover...duly noted!:grin: Okay..ur not gonna do the Emergencee...no Aphoghee consideration? And thank you for the thread compliment! (could ya hook a sister up with a star or two...:ohwell: ...lol)

@Miosy - hmmm...another Elucence user...Good Chick! I see Humecto in THE TUB! (THICK AND CREAMY!) awww shucks..NTM leave in :)

@PradaLover - YW!:grin:
 
MonaLisa said:
@ PhytoPusha! Your hair is a Phytolover...duly noted!:grin: Okay..ur not gonna do the Emergencee...no Aphoghee consideration? And thank you for the thread compliment! (could ya hook a sister up with a star or two...:ohwell: ...lol)

I tried Aphogee as well (I bought one of those sample packs) and the results weren't that great. :ohwell: When I was cleaning under my sink (all those hair products, ya'll know what I mean) I "found" some Aphogee Intensive 2 min Keratin Reconstructor that I may try out again.

I really think my hair doesn't like heavy protein. Is that weird?

ETA: I gave you some stars..Yay!
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MonaLisa said:
@Waterchylde - Your progress is GREAT!!!! Wow. And I note the usage of the Suave Humectant and the NTM...I feel u. Question...how do u like the poo? I have a bottle in my closet (I meant to get another conditioner), I used once...:ohwell:
The shampoo is ok and does a great job cleaning my hair. Now, my scalp that's a different story.
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Recently my scalp's been kinda gunky and I've tried using more poo to clear it out but it stripped my hair in the process. I even did an ACV rinse but there is still some gunk. Not really sure what I'm going to do yet.
 
KAddy said:
I tried Aphogee as well (I bought one of those sample packs) and the results weren't that great. :ohwell: When I was cleaning under my sink (all those hair products, ya'll know what I mean) I "found" some Aphogee Intensive 2 min Keratin Reconstructor that I may try out again.

I really think my hair doesn't like heavy protein. Is that weird?

ETA: I gave you some stars..Yay!
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:grin: :grin: :grin: :grin: :lol: THANK UUUUUUUUUUUUUU PUSHA! LOL.


@WaterChylde...hmmm...I don't remember who it was...perhaps someone will chime in regarding the use of baking soda for clarifying as it's gentle. I've been so far so good with my Keracare,CON and NTM poos. The only one I may adopt into rotation is the Elucence...so let me leave well enough alone. Thanks for the feedback.
 
3c/4a/4b relaxed checking in:

Shampoos: Wash weekly with one of the following...

Keracare Hydrating & Detangling
Elucence Moisture Benefits
Redken Hair Cleansing Cream (clarifying)

Conditioners:
Keracare Humecto (tub)
Elucence Moisture Balance (leave-in and deep conditioner)
Elucence EMRT (light protein; use every 2 weeks)
Roux Porosity Control Conditioner (use every 2 weeks)

Relaxer: Vitale High Comfort (thinking of switching to Phytospecific next month)

Maintenance Products:

Keracare Essential Oils for the Hair
Keracare High Sheen Glossifier (use on scalp 2X/week)
Straight Request Silky Milk (Soft Hold)
Keracare Silken Seal serum (use on ends only)
Fantasia Hair Polisher for Color Treated Hair (use on wet hair only)
Elucence Silk Hydrating Elixir (use on dry hair)
L'Occitane Ultra Rich Hair Cream ( I am finishing this up. I am still searching for the perfect moisturizer.)
 
KAddy said:
I tried Aphogee as well (I bought one of those sample packs) and the results weren't that great. :ohwell: When I was cleaning under my sink (all those hair products, ya'll know what I mean) I "found" some Aphogee Intensive 2 min Keratin Reconstructor that I may try out again.

I really think my hair doesn't like heavy protein. Is that weird?

ETA: I gave you some stars..Yay!
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@KAddy...I had meant to say this before I became overwhelmed with the stars...everybody's hair doesn't necessarily need heavy protein...I never used heavy protein until I encountered Ms. Howse...and it made a difference for me...so I will continue to utilize...that just might not be the case with your hair. If the Pusha's hair responds better to utilizing a lighter protein...continue rolling with what responds to your hair...we neva...want to work...against...da hair. Hair rules!;)
 
MonaLisa said:
@KAddy...I had meant to say this before I became overwhelmed with the stars...everybody's hair doesn't necessarily need heavy protein...I never used heavy protein until I encountered Ms. Howse...and it made a difference for me...so I will continue to utilize...that just might not be the case with your hair. If the Pusha's hair responds better to utilizing a lighter protein...continue rolling with what responds to your hair...we neva...want to work...against...da hair. Hair rules!;)

Thanks girlie. I don't think my hair likes the heavy stuff. :ohwell: It does love the lighter ones though and I decided to just use my light ones every other week.
 
@Senimoni - I guess we need to start to doing a breakdown of new acronyms...glad u know what NTM is! :)

Hola @ Ms.B! *waving* - gonna try that AO GPB pre-poo...followed with the Keracare/Humecto. I'm mad I'm gonna wind up buying some Elucence behind this thread.:ohwell: *sigh*
 
Another 4a checking in.

Shampoos:
Keracare Hydrating Detangling
Elucence
Kenra Moisturizing

Conditioners:
Keracare Humecto (tub)
Elucence
Kenra Moisturizing

Protein:
Dudley's Hair Rebuilder
Affirm 5-in-1

Leave Ins:
Giovanni Direct
Lacio Lacio
Salerm
 
MonaLisa said:
That sounds like a possible gameplan. I want to implement some more moisture during this cold weather..I may go back to the CO washes now 1x and a reg. wash/deep con on Saturdays.

Thanks Chica!:D


You're very welcome! :)
 
Hi 4a/b Sisters! :)

Checking in. I'm a newbie and a 4a/b. (Honestly, I don't know the difference between a and b so I'm assuming I have both). Since I'm a newbie, I'm not recommending anything this is just what I am currently doing:

Surging 2 x day
Scalp massage challenge
Surge Woogie Cream
baggie method buns
no heat method
relaxer stretch (only on week 4 from touchup-plan to go 12 weeks)
multivit, Kal Super Silica, MSM, Biotin
wash 3x week
deep condition 2x week
 
Hola Rachel L- Hair is looking good in that avatar! Check, down with Keracare - dangit! there goes that Elucence again! lol. Humecto (TUB) - you know the deal!;) You have good products and a simplified regimen.

Welcome CBC to the LHCF! *Throws up hair gang sign-make one up...lol*
Your game plan sounds good to get on the road to healthy hair growing. I see that you have vitamins included in your regimen...make sure that you drink PLENTY of water...good for the skin and hair...we moisturize inside out!:look:

So nice to see a fellow Woojee Cream user! yeah! I felt so alone! I love that ish!
 
Hey :wave:

I am a 4A/B, medium to thick strands, spongey hair texture when natural

My hair likes:
Poos: Elucence MB, Nioxin Protective Smoothing, Paul Mitchell Tea Tree (clarifying)

Conditioners:
Moisturizing - Tropical Milk Protein, Motions CPR, V05 Blueberries/Cream, Strawberries/Cream, Pina Colada

Protein - Aubrey GPB (bi-weekly), Aphogee (after my relaxers)

Conditioners for CO Washes: The V05s

Moisturizers: What's that? j/k I rarely use them, but when if I do, I use Carol's Daughter Hair Milk.

Leave-In: Loreal Vive Smoothing, Salerm 21

Oils: Jojoba

Serum: Neutrogena Triple Moisture
 
Hey Ms.K! - Go Phyto! lol. Checking...down with Aphoghee, got the NTM serum in regi...cool.

As far as heavier protein treatments...I've noted that the thread is leaning towards Aphoghee and a few Emergencees.

@bocagirl - yw!:look:
 
No one ever makes a post for people with 4z hair like mine :grin: so I guess I'll join and say I'm a 4b with fine hair


I'm still trying to determine what products work best for me so here's an incomplete list (a REALLY incomplete list LOL)

Shampoo:
Nioxin

Conditioners:
Nexxus Humectress
Nexxus Keraphix
Nioxin

Moisturizers:
Still working on this one ...nothing seems to work :(

Oils:
Kemi Oil
Coconut oil
Olive oil
Vitamin E oil
Aloe Vera Oil
 
LOL @ Paperdoll! Welcome aboard! I'm sorry! I wasn't familiar with that particular type...Z...so, I guess that makes u unique and special!:grin:

Hopefully, the thread will still be beneficial to you..to see what other 4's are
doing with their hair and what works for them.

It takes a minute to find out what products your hair responds to..but u seem to be heading in the right path! I hope you find a moisturizer that works...but if not...if the oils work for you..stick with that.

Happy Hair Growing!:p
 
MonaLisa said:
I wasn't familiar with that particular type...Z...so, I guess that makes u unique and special!:grin: QUOTE]

Too funny! You know I was joking right? :lachen: I just say I have 4z cuz sometimes this is some rough stuff that I have on my head....just difficult and doesn't seem to "fit" the categories like everyone else's hair LOL


But you're right this thread is giving me some good ideas about what might work :) Happy Hair Growing to you too!
 
PaperDoll said:
MonaLisa said:
I wasn't familiar with that particular type...Z...so, I guess that makes u unique and special!:grin: QUOTE]

Too funny! You know I was joking right? :lachen: I just say I have 4z cuz sometimes this is some rough stuff that I have on my head....just difficult and doesn't seem to "fit" the categories like everyone else's hair LOL


But you're right this thread is giving me some good ideas about what might work :) Happy Hair Growing to you too!

LOL...I knew u were joking...:lachen: Hmmm...maybe folks will give some input on what might help soften that rough stuff on ur head. Have you used World of Curls or Stay So Fro (I think that's it) to help soften and make more manageable?
 
NEWBIE 4- something checking in!!! :)

I'm also a reformed PJ (kinda) but I listed the things I always go back to

Shampoo:
Breakthru (yellow bottle)
CON detangling (luuurrve it)

Conditioner:
Moisture:
Humectress (i love love love this)
CON
PM Super charged
Protein: (lite)
Keraphix
Omnipak

Deep conditioner:
Omnipak
Motions CPR

Leave in:
Humectress
Razac (diluted for rollersets)

Serums:
NTM
Matrix sleek.look

Moisture during week:
Surge Potion #9 oil
Activilong paris
Surge

Vitamins:
MSM 3000mg/ day
centrum multi
Bitotin 1600mcg/day
Vitamin E (for skin)

I used this for two weeks now and it has stoppped the breakage/shedding that i've been having. I bought aphogee and am going to do that in a week.

yea.. I think I got every thing. Thanks everyone for submitting. It's really going to help.
 
Hola! @ TuffCookie! Welcome aboard and thank you for sharing your product list! Glad the list is helpful to you.:)

BB......you know u need to get up on in here and close the door!:lachen:

I know there's mad 4's MIA up in here!
 
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