Conservative Christian VS Liberal Christian

Things I've read about Conservative Christians:

*They are often content to answer religious questions by appealing to the absolute authority of Scripture (literal view)

*They see the Bible as the completely inspired Word of God

*They believe in the Inerrancy of the Scriptures

*They believe in the virgin birth (and the deity of Jesus)

*They believe in the bodily resurrection of Jesus

*They believe in the authenticity of Christ's miracles

*They believe in both a literal Heaven and a literal Hell

*Conservative Christian denominations: Southern Baptist, Roman Catholic, etc.
 
I see where you are coming from GV-NA-GI-TLV-GE-I and for the most part, I agree.

If we were to look at our practices and study the theology and religion as a whole, we can see in the west, particularly in the bible belt, where I live, the practices are extremely cultural and "liberal". Does that mean it is a bad thing? I don't suppose so. I can see a positive as to where people are able to express their spirituality in the confines of their culture. I do have an issues that the "liberals" in context of not keeping with the ancient traditions tend to view their brand as superior and only righteous. I also, feel that Christ spoke out about all of the religiousness that the Jews had and not being in the Spirit. So, it can both both ways. If we concentrate on all of the technical things, bowing down, facing the alter etc then we can loose sight of our purpose for fellowship and worship.

Also, I believe that when people read the word they must understand history and culture of the time for when the bible was written.

When Jesus spoke out against the religiousness, it wasn't against Jews, it was against the leaders who placed more value on external practice than internal. Judaism is fine. Jesus himself was an observant Jew, as were Mary, Josef, all their cousins and family, and the early church.
 
Things I've read about Conservative Christians:

*They are often content to answer religious questions by appealing to the absolute authority of Scripture (literal view)


I wouldn't say the literal view tho, for catholics. We know that there is allegory in the scriptures. For instance, Revelations. As I was taught, it's not literal. We also are not sola scriptura, but follow sacred tradition as that handed down by the apostles...in the unbroken line of faith as that of Moses...oral law and written law (commentaries etc.).

This is good. I wish we'd all participate and demonstrate just how liberal or conservative our churches are regarding specific things. Birth control?
 
I'm a liberal Christian. And I am unconcerned with what other Christians think of me I am only concerned with what God himself thinks of me. So say what you will.
 
I'm a liberal Christian. And I am unconcerned with what other Christians think of me I am only concerned with what God himself thinks of me. So say what you will.

I don't think anybody's judging you. How do you define liberal christianity, if you don't mind? I consider myself liberal as well...even though I hold orthodox beliefs.
 
I don't think anybody's judging you. How do you define liberal christianity, if you don't mind? I consider myself liberal as well...even though I hold orthodox beliefs.

I am a basically a Christian with liberal viewpoints. I feel that people have a right to choose what is best for themselves and their life. I also don't think there is one cut and dry path to the Lord nor do I think what I believe should be forced on anyone.
 
I am a basically a Christian with liberal viewpoints. I feel that people have a right to choose what is best for themselves and their life. I also don't think there is one cut and dry path to the Lord nor do I think what I believe should be forced on anyone.

I wouldn't even label the bold as "liberal" - that is a strictly Scriptural and God-given right. Often, a number of the self-defined "conservative Christians" dispute the existence of this right in the Bible, which is really disputing the character of God.
 
We should be concerned about what others christian think of us. Aren't we each others examples, aren't we suppose to be uplifting each others. I have learned from other Christians how to handle certain situations, even some things to avoid. I truly believe we are suppose to help one another.
 
What's "universal salvation?"
It's the belief that everyone is going to Heaven no matter what they believe (Hell doesn't exist). This is based on the notion that God is Love and wouldn't let anyone burn in Hell for eternity because of His loving nature.
 
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We should be concerned about what others christian think of us. Aren't we each others examples, aren't we suppose to be uplifting each others. I have learned from other Christians how to handle certain situations, even some things to avoid. I truly believe we are suppose to help one another.

To a certain degree, yes, and to a certain degree, no. If I were worried how people thought of catholics, I wouldn't be one because of the extreme persecution we face every single day. We just keep on going but we don't put those pressures on others, attempting to proselytize them. That's coercion.

What if some women wear only dresses and others wear pants...and the dresses think the pants are wrong and ung-dly? I've seen that as well. If you live a moral life...then you do. There is always going to be somebody who thinks you're not up to par.
 
It's the belief that everyone is going to Heaven no matter what they believe (Hell doesn't exist). This is based on the notion that God is Love and wouldn't let anyone burn in Hell for eternity because of His loving nature.


Is the American Baptist Church different from other baptist churches? And methodists...I wasn't aware of any of this. Wow.
 
Is the American Baptist Church different from other baptist churches? And methodists...I wasn't aware of any of this. Wow.
There's division within the Baptist denomination (American Baptist, Anabaptist, Southern Baptist, etc.). I know that Southern Baptist is more conservative than other Baptist churches.

Here's a website about American Baptist beliefs:
http://www.firstbaptistscituate.com/americanbaptistbeliefs.aspx

Here's an article about Southern Baptist vs. Baptist:
http://atheism.about.com/od/baptistssouthernbaptists/a/southernbaptist_2.htm

Here's an article about Methodist beliefs:
http://christianity.about.com/od/devotionals/a/Methodist.htm
 
Note: I apologize in advance for the dissertation. Even though I don't like the labels and feel that they are largely a political ploy and unnecessarily divisive, in a theological sense I do believe that there is something to them. We see the manifestation of the differences in these various practices, but what underlies them?

I think that conservative churches and believers are fundamentally dedicated to keeping faithfully the Christian doctrine (orthodoxy) and life practice (orthpraxy) that has been handed down through the centuries. I'm not going to say "sola scriptura" because that particular phrase is reflective of a specific doctrine held by some protestant denominations, but which doesn't really encompass the entirety of the Christian tradition. We know the Christian faith through the Scripture, the creeds formulated by the early church, and the life and witness of all believers throughout the ages. Conservative churches seek to remain faithful to those things. The good about this is that it keeps us walking in line with the faith that's been handed down to us.

The bad thing is that in particular cultural contexts (like the U.S., for example), people find it difficult to separate traditions of the world and flesh from traditions that are truly reflective of the Gospel's truth. And if Christians have not been exposed to other denominations, cultures and Christian beliefs, we can start to assume that the way our pastor always taught it is the way that it must be, we can forget that no one ever comes to Scripture with unfiltered eyes and that just because it seems obvious to us that the Scripture is "plainly" saying "x," there are other genuine believers who believe that it is "plainly" saying "y."

So I think that for "conservative Christians" the trick is to familiarize themselves with the breadth and depth of the Christian tradition, historically and geographically, to have a whole picture of the teachings that have been handed down, and to know the difference between "essentials" of the faith and "non-essentials." We only have to agree on the essentials. And of course, being "traditional" is absolutely no guarantee that someone has Christ in their heart. You can still be wrong.

As for the "liberal Christians," I believe that they basically take the view that Scripture is a sacred text, but that its contents are inseparable from the humans who authored it and their personal viewpoints, and so Scripture then is viewed as a positive source of inspiration, but not a book to be absolutely obeyed necessarily. That's why you couldn't find the gospel if you tried in most of the churches of the liberal denominations that Poohbear listed. With both Scripture and the Christian tradition viewed as essentially man-made, liberal churches and Christians focus on ridding the faith of all those things that they deem to have repressed people spiritually, economically, politically, etc.

Social justice issues are emphasized as a way of attempting to evolve the faith beyond what they believe to have been the narrow-mindedness of the age. So, when Paul says that the husband is the head of the wife, the liberal church would say that that was because of the patriarchy of Paul's time. When homosexuality is condemned, it was homophobia...or that failing, is an instance of "progressive revelation" in which God did not reveal until later that the practice of biblical times was wrong, using something like slavery as an example.

The liberal Christian faith will make much of the phrase: "God is love, Love is God," meaning that whatever can be seen as a loving act, or a loving attitude is reflective of God. Love, then, would be what makes people feel positive about themselves and their lives. And some liberal theologians will take it far enough to say that there is no difference between the phrases, "God is love," and the phrase "Love is God," saying that when we love, that act itself is God.

The liberal Christian faith provides something where the conservative faith does not in its attentiveness to the separation of the Gospel from the practices of the world and culture around us and their push for justice in the world's systems. They are not "so heavenly minded as to be of no earthly good." But the damning thing about this perspective is that Jesus was explicitly clear that to know and love God is to obey His commandments. And you can't set yourself to obey his commandments and to grow in the knowledge of Him if you are constantly undermining the source and legitimacy of His revelation of Himself and His will through the Scripture and the witness of all believers.

I don't think that everything that departs from a previous tradition is "liberal." We as Christians are called to constantly examine ourselves, our attitudes, practices, etc. to see if they need changing. To make a change isn't "liberal" or "conservative," but is discernment. I feel that one's attitude toward Scripture, obedience, and other Christians more determines whether someone is "liberal" or "conservative". We still don't need the labels though. We just need to continuously seek to obey Christ and to know Him more.
 
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We should be concerned about what others christian think of us. Aren't we each others examples, aren't we suppose to be uplifting each others. I have learned from other Christians how to handle certain situations, even some things to avoid. I truly believe we are suppose to help one another.

We are supposed to, you are right. But I have felt/received more tearing down from a lot of Christians and instead of getting mad at my religion and God I just choose to build a network of others who are supportive and loving. In anything in life I feel it is best to chew the meat and spit out the bones and thats what I am trying to do.
 
There's division within the Baptist denomination (American Baptist, Anabaptist, Southern Baptist, etc.). I know that Southern Baptist is more conservative than other Baptist churches.

Here's a website about American Baptist beliefs:
http://www.firstbaptistscituate.com/americanbaptistbeliefs.aspx

Here's an article about Southern Baptist vs. Baptist:
http://atheism.about.com/od/baptistssouthernbaptists/a/southernbaptist_2.htm

Here's an article about Methodist beliefs:
http://christianity.about.com/od/devotionals/a/Methodist.htm


I'm wondering where most Black Baptist churches fall within...up North, I mean.
 
We are supposed to, you are right. But I have felt/received more tearing down from a lot of Christians and instead of getting mad at my religion and God I just choose to build a network of others who are supportive and loving. In anything in life I feel it is best to chew the meat and spit out the bones and thats what I am trying to do.

I hear this often but cannot relate to it. I don't have a tough skin at all, I just feel that I am strong in the word of God and will fight my battles with the word and so far I only been a member for a short while but I have been tested and the words fly out of my mouth and we keep it moving as I believe we should love one another no matter what some one says or do I will love them as much as they will allow. so of course no one knows what to make of me as of yet. I am learning but not conforming.

Luke
9Love must be sincere. Hate what is evil; cling to what is good. 10Be devoted to one another in brotherly love. Honor one another above yourselves. 11Never be lacking in zeal, but keep your spiritual fervor, serving the Lord. 12Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer. 13Share with God's people who are in need. Practice hospitality.

14Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse. 15Rejoice with those who rejoice; mourn with those who mourn. 16Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position.[c] Do not be conceited. 17Do not repay anyone evil for evil. Be careful to do what is right in the eyes of everybody. 18If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. 19Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"[d]says the Lord. 20On the contrary:
"If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head."[e] 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.
 
To a certain degree, yes, and to a certain degree, no. If I were worried how people thought of catholics, I wouldn't be one because of the extreme persecution we face every single day. We just keep on going but we don't put those pressures on others, attempting to proselytize them. That's coercion.

What if some women wear only dresses and others wear pants...and the dresses think the pants are wrong and ung-dly? I've seen that as well. If you live a moral life...then you do. There is always going to be somebody who thinks you're not up to par.

At times I am not sure how to answer you questions, because of your beliefs are much more different then mines.
I encourage people to tell me what they think about what I believe. It makes me stronger in my faith because I know i have studied it out. But I will study it out more and more to see if anything in it is wrong and not according to the scriptures. In the service that I go to which you know is Seventh Day Adventist there are members that do not like you simply because you might eat meat? That is their issue not mine. However, because I know this I will not cause them to stumble i would never ever eat meat in their presence if I ate meat. They might not like the fact as you have stated that I wear pants to service (I don't) but that is again their issue, to be honest if someone came to me and say they are really struggling with my wearing pants I would not wear pants. it is not my desire to cause anyone to struggle. Even thought I feel they should be stronger in their faith I see that they are not and have to work on it I will do what I can to help them by not wearing it. We are not all growing spiritually at the same rate. I have far surpassed feelings like this. I won't take a browbeating. I will encourage whomever to show me scriptures where I am not acting in accordance to the word of God and then we will pray together and I will repent if need be. This is where i stand on this.
 
At times I am not sure how to answer you questions, because of your beliefs are much more different then mines.
I encourage people to tell me what they think about what I believe. It makes me stronger in my faith because I know i have studied it out. But I will study it out more and more to see if anything in it is wrong and not according to the scriptures. .


That's the last thing I will ever do again.:nono: and the only thing I disagree with here. I compare what I am learning against what the Church teaches. I believe it's guided by Christ who sent the Holy Spirit, as He said. It's set in stone for me. Otherwise, you get lots of judging from others. Well, even there, sometimes, but I've learned to spot who the religiously snooty folks are. Thank G-d! It gives me relief that I'm no longer under their thumbs. I'm under G-d's. Be careful tho. That's sometimes like an open invitation for people to throw you under a bus. That has happened a few times to me from so-called "elders." LOL.
 
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@ the bolded... :yep:


Note: I apologize in advance for the dissertation. Even though I don't like the labels and feel that they are largely a political ploy and unnecessarily divisive, in a theological sense I do believe that there is something to them. We see the manifestation of the differences in these various practices, but what underlies them?

I think that conservative churches and believers are fundamentally dedicated to keeping faithfully the Christian doctrine (orthodoxy) and life practice (orthpraxy) that has been handed down through the centuries. I'm not going to say "sola scriptura" because that particular phrase is reflective of a specific doctrine held by some protestant denominations, but which doesn't really encompass the entirety of the Christian tradition. We know the Christian faith through the Scripture, the creeds formulated by the early church, and the life and witness of all believers throughout the ages. Conservative churches seek to remain faithful to those things. The good about this is that it keeps us walking in line with the faith that's been handed down to us.

The bad thing is that in particular cultural contexts (like the U.S., for example), people find it difficult to separate traditions of the world and flesh from traditions that are truly reflective of the Gospel's truth. And if Christians have not been exposed to other denominations, cultures and Christian beliefs, we can start to assume that the way our pastor always taught it is the way that it must be, we can forget that no one ever comes to Scripture with unfiltered eyes and that just because it seems obvious to us that the Scripture is "plainly" saying "x," there are other genuine believers who believe that it is "plainly" saying "y."

So I think that for "conservative Christians" the trick is to familiarize themselves with the breadth and depth of the Christian tradition, historically and geographically, to have a whole picture of the teachings that have been handed down, and to know the difference between "essentials" of the faith and "non-essentials." We only have to agree on the essentials. And of course, being "traditional" is absolutely no guarantee that someone has Christ in their heart. You can still be wrong.

As for the "liberal Christians," I believe that they basically take the view that Scripture is a sacred text, but that its contents are inseparable from the humans who authored it and their personal viewpoints, and so Scripture then is viewed as a positive source of inspiration, but not a book to be absolutely obeyed necessarily. That's why you couldn't find the gospel if you tried in most of the churches of the liberal denominations that Poohbear listed. With both Scripture and the Christian tradition viewed as essentially man-made, liberal churches and Christians focus on ridding the faith of all those things that they deem to have repressed people spiritually, economically, politically, etc.

Social justice issues are emphasized as a way of attempting to evolve the faith beyond what they believe to have been the narrow-mindedness of the age. So, when Paul says that the husband is the head of the wife, the liberal church would say that that was because of the patriarchy of Paul's time. When homosexuality is condemned, it was homophobia...or that failing, is an instance of "progressive revelation" in which God did not reveal until later that the practice of biblical times was wrong, using something like slavery as an example.

The liberal Christian faith will make much of the phrase: "God is love, Love is God," meaning that whatever can be seen as a loving act, or a loving attitude is reflective of God. Love, then, would be what makes people feel positive about themselves and their lives. And some liberal theologians will take it far enough to say that there is no difference between the phrases, "God is love," and the phrase "Love is God," saying that when we love, that act itself is God.

The liberal Christian faith provides something where the conservative faith does not in its attentiveness to the separation of the Gospel from the practices of the world and culture around us and their push for justice in the world's systems. They are not "so heavenly minded as to be of no earthly good." But the damning thing about this perspective is that Jesus was explicitly clear that to know and love God is to obey His commandments. And you can't set yourself to obey his commandments and to grow in the knowledge of Him if you are constantly undermining the source and legitimacy of His revelation of Himself and His will through the Scripture and the witness of all believers.

I don't think that everything that departs from a previous tradition is "liberal." We as Christians are called to constantly examine ourselves, our attitudes, practices, etc. to see if they need changing. To make a change isn't "liberal" or "conservative," but is discernment. I feel that one's attitude toward Scripture, obedience, and other Christians more determines whether someone is "liberal" or "conservative". We still don't need the labels though. We just need to continuously seek to obey Christ and to know Him more.
 
Note: I apologize in advance for the dissertation. Even though I don't like the labels and feel that they are largely a political ploy and unnecessarily divisive, in a theological sense I do believe that there is something to them. We see the manifestation of the differences in these various practices, but what underlies them?

I think that conservative churches and believers are fundamentally dedicated to keeping faithfully the Christian doctrine (orthodoxy) and life practice (orthpraxy) that has been handed down through the centuries. I'm not going to say "sola scriptura" because that particular phrase is reflective of a specific doctrine held by some protestant denominations, but which doesn't really encompass the entirety of the Christian tradition. We know the Christian faith through the Scripture, the creeds formulated by the early church, and the life and witness of all believers throughout the ages. Conservative churches seek to remain faithful to those things. The good about this is that it keeps us walking in line with the faith that's been handed down to us.

The bad thing is that in particular cultural contexts (like the U.S., for example), people find it difficult to separate traditions of the world and flesh from traditions that are truly reflective of the Gospel's truth. And if Christians have not been exposed to other denominations, cultures and Christian beliefs, we can start to assume that the way our pastor always taught it is the way that it must be, we can forget that no one ever comes to Scripture with unfiltered eyes and that just because it seems obvious to us that the Scripture is "plainly" saying "x," there are other genuine believers who believe that it is "plainly" saying "y."

So I think that for "conservative Christians" the trick is to familiarize themselves with the breadth and depth of the Christian tradition, historically and geographically, to have a whole picture of the teachings that have been handed down, and to know the difference between "essentials" of the faith and "non-essentials." We only have to agree on the essentials. And of course, being "traditional" is absolutely no guarantee that someone has Christ in their heart. You can still be wrong.

As for the "liberal Christians," I believe that they basically take the view that Scripture is a sacred text, but that its contents are inseparable from the humans who authored it and their personal viewpoints, and so Scripture then is viewed as a positive source of inspiration, but not a book to be absolutely obeyed necessarily. That's why you couldn't find the gospel if you tried in most of the churches of the liberal denominations that Poohbear listed. With both Scripture and the Christian tradition viewed as essentially man-made, liberal churches and Christians focus on ridding the faith of all those things that they deem to have repressed people spiritually, economically, politically, etc.

Social justice issues are emphasized as a way of attempting to evolve the faith beyond what they believe to have been the narrow-mindedness of the age. So, when Paul says that the husband is the head of the wife, the liberal church would say that that was because of the patriarchy of Paul's time. When homosexuality is condemned, it was homophobia...or that failing, is an instance of "progressive revelation" in which God did not reveal until later that the practice of biblical times was wrong, using something like slavery as an example.

The liberal Christian faith will make much of the phrase: "God is love, Love is God," meaning that whatever can be seen as a loving act, or a loving attitude is reflective of God. Love, then, would be what makes people feel positive about themselves and their lives. And some liberal theologians will take it far enough to say that there is no difference between the phrases, "God is love," and the phrase "Love is God," saying that when we love, that act itself is God.

The liberal Christian faith provides something where the conservative faith does not in its attentiveness to the separation of the Gospel from the practices of the world and culture around us and their push for justice in the world's systems. They are not "so heavenly minded as to be of no earthly good." But the damning thing about this perspective is that Jesus was explicitly clear that to know and love God is to obey His commandments. And you can't set yourself to obey his commandments and to grow in the knowledge of Him if you are constantly undermining the source and legitimacy of His revelation of Himself and His will through the Scripture and the witness of all believers.

I don't think that everything that departs from a previous tradition is "liberal." We as Christians are called to constantly examine ourselves, our attitudes, practices, etc. to see if they need changing. To make a change isn't "liberal" or "conservative," but is discernment. I feel that one's attitude toward Scripture, obedience, and other Christians more determines whether someone is "liberal" or "conservative". We still don't need the labels though. We just need to continuously seek to obey Christ and to know Him more.


I agree with the area that is in bold.

I think that a liberal Christian is someone that believes that Jesus died on the cross for them, but they are not willing to follow Him. They are more interested in following the direction and trend that the world is going in. They are going to be the ones that end up with the mark of the beast on them because they were not paying attention to God's word.
 
from a political perspective
Either you follow Christ and believe or you don't. I don't believe in Christian Conservative(ism) politically. I believe it is a facade. I believe that economic conservatives use this label to tug on the heart strings of people who believe in Christ to support their cause and some people fall for it although economically they believe in more liberal views.


From a spiritual perspective
I don't like to use those terms either because it does not address the true diverse nature of follows of the Way or Christ. The church that follows closely how the early matyrs and "church" fathers practiced would be in the Orthodox Church, Coptic Church and Ethiopian Tahedo Church. Their practices are more "conservative" if you will than most Prostant Western Churches are today.

As far as the comparison of Conservative being on fire for God and Liberal being lukewarm christian that is not a correct way to describe Christians on their journey to God and salvation.

When someone profess Christ with their tongue and believe in their heart and is baptised in the Name of The Father, SON and HOLY SPIRIT or in the name of JESUS CHRIST(depending our your denominational views) this person's life begins. Confession of Christ is not a magic pill and then you have your "breakthrough" and/are "delivered". Being with Christ takes WORK, patience and Seeking the Kingdom of God FIRST. Many people who confess Christ do not know nor understand this and most importantly getting to this point of revelation takes time and for some it takes a lifetime and for others a few months or years. That is not being lukewarm but that is being real about it. Many people are struggling in faith, if it was not so, then there would not be a need for DAILY BREAD. That is why we believers have to stay steadfast and keep on encouraging our brethren every step of the way. Life is not as simple as BLACK/WHITE and many believers struggle daily to keep on the road.

I believe the context of the "lukewarm" is taken out of porportion and is used as a badge. In summary, people are on different spots on the spiritual journey to God, some fall off, some pause for a second and some sprint to home plate. We have to be mindful that not every receives relevation at the same time and that God has to fix things in us to get us to the next level. That's not lukewarm, that is the path. A believer can not truly embrace the fullness of God without going through something and knowing that they know, that they know, that they know that I AM is I AM.
That cannot be taught but it has to be experienced. That is the difference between an Athiest and a believer. An athiest wants to read it,see it and prove it but a believer KNOWS it. Only life and experience can give you that. Now, is that conservative or liberalism? no. It is the way and path to eternal life.

ETA: If err in some manner please direct me in the spirit of Christ because I am always looking to learn and grow. Thanks!

:yep: to the whole post
 
I'm not really sure I understand why there are labels. I don't like it in the political arena and I definitely don't like it in the spiritual arena. Both terms have negative connotations. And each person has both "conservative" and "liberal" notions. No one is entirely anything.
 
I guess Im a liberal because Im very compassionate when I see people in sin because I see that Ive been there and done that and wish they would open their eyes, I just love them and be a part of there lives to an extent that doesnt comprise my christianity
 
How do you decided whether or not you are a Conservative Christian or a Liberal Christian? Is it certain issues (like abortion, homosexual marriage, etc.) or does it depend on your perception on certain sins in the Bible? Whatever it is, explain why you are a Conservative Christian or a Liberal Christian. Thanks in advance.

I'm conservative. May be even leaning towards Messianic Christian. I don't club, I drink occasionly, no drugs, sex till marriage. But I strive to understand and obey His Word, even going back to the Hebrew. I do not claim myself as perfect. I just wanna learn. I admit a part of things are confusing as being Under the law of the old vs new convenant. But that's another thread. I just do not want to be decieved and hear YHWH say depart from me. I neva knew ya lady. You're medium rare, go and be thou burned. Yanno. So. I am asking YHWH and seeking and knocking. I want to serve Him the way He desires to be served not what the world states. So yes I'm messianic.
 
I guess Im a liberal because Im very compassionate when I see people in sin because I see that Ive been there and done that and wish they would open their eyes, I just love them and be a part of there lives to an extent that doesnt comprise my christianity
. I wouldn't consider that being liberal. I think that EVERY Christian should have this attitude. :) This is what God wants from us. I just wish others would operate the same way. It would make things so much better. :yep:
 
Labels, labels, labels
Unnecessary markers
Man-made divisions
Called everything but a child of the Most High
Or the temple in which the Holy Spirit dwells!
 
I'm conservative. May be even leaning towards Messianic Christian. I don't club, I drink occasionly, no drugs, sex till marriage. But I strive to understand and obey His Word, even going back to the Hebrew. I do not claim myself as perfect. I just wanna learn. I admit a part of things are confusing as being Under the law of the old vs new convenant. But that's another thread. I just do not want to be decieved and hear YHWH say depart from me. I neva knew ya lady. You're medium rare, go and be thou burned. Yanno. So. I am asking YHWH and seeking and knocking. I want to serve Him the way He desires to be served not what the world states. So yes I'm messianic.
What is a Messianic Christian?
 
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