Clarification regarding relaxers and drain cleaner....

[msa]

I use Phyto. All Natchal!

Where can I find the ingredients list for this product? I want to see how a relaxer can be all natural. Y'all know how much I love natural products.

 

[sunbubbles]

I have obviously missed something but the relaxer/drano comparison comes from the fact that relaxers have the same ph levels as drano which goes to show how strong of a chemical it is and its potential for damage to hair since drano basically disolves hair...

Thats what I thought it was anyways. Lets not try to water it down. Im a full supporter of do what you wanna do, but it is what it is. Ppl shouldnt get all "BENT" outta shape because the obvious is being pointed out.

 

[LushLox]

Ladies, I can see this thread turning for the worse. Please don't get my poor little innocent thread locked I just wanted to make a simple clarification, that's all.

I don't want this turned into yet ANOTHER relaxed vs natural thread. I've seen enough of those to last a lifetime

I think it's too late for that lady! You've done nearly started a war up in here already.

 

[brucebettye]

 

[msa]

Where can I find the ingredients list for this product? I want to see how a relaxer can be all natural. Y'all know how much I love natural products.

I found the answer to my question. The active ingredient in Phytorelaxers is Guanidine Carbonate and according to my reading it is a "strong chemical base" that has a variety of applications. It is also referred to as an "organic salt" and an "organic specialty product". Interesting. Since it's made in a lab, it's definitely not "natural". I wonder if it's derived from natural ingredients? Anyone know?

 

[tiffers]

Thats what I thought it was anyways. Lets not try to water it down. Im a full supporter of do what you wanna do, but it is what it is. Ppl shouldnt get all "BENT" outta shape because the obvious is being pointed out.

No one's bent out of shape... Well, at least I'm not

As I stated before, I just wanted to make a simple clarification. There's a difference between Draino containing lye and relaxers containing Draino.

No one's trying to sugar coat or water down anything. I think we're all pretty aware of what relaxers are capable of

 

[tiffers]

I think it's too late for that lady! You've done nearly started a war up in here already.

I see erplexed
Can't even make a simple statement anymore without folks turning it into more than what it really is....
Whatev, I'm over it. Who's going to see the X-Men movie?

 

[CurlyMoo]

I see erplexed
Can't even make a simple statement anymore without folks turning it into more than what it really is....
Whatev, I'm over it. Who's going to see the X-Men movie?

Saw it a month ago. Great movie and Hugh Jackman is nude in the movie. The man is huge and GAWJUS! You can't beat that.

 

[LiberianGirl]

Saw it a month ago. Great movie and Hugh Jackman is nude in the movie. The man is huge and GAWJUS! You can't beat that.

Thanks for that tidbit.

 

[that_1_grrrl]

I found the answer to my question. The active ingredient in Phytorelaxers is Guanidine Carbonate and according to my reading it is a "strong chemical base" that has a variety of applications. It is also referred to as an "organic salt" and an "organic specialty product". Interesting. Since it's made in a lab, it's definitely not "natural". I wonder if it's derived from natural ingredients? Anyone know?

Guanidine Carbonate is an alkaline, organic salt utilized primarily as an ingredient in hair straightening and depilatory systems. When combined with calcium hydroxide in (no-lye) hair relaxers it reacts to form a less irritating system than sodium hydroxide-based (lye) systems. It also is used as a buffering agent and a pH adjuster.

All I could find. Sounds harmless compared to a lot of things put in products these days.

Kinda sounds like a more powerful form of baking soda. They're both alkaline salts.

 

[LushLox]

Saw it a month ago. Great movie and Hugh Jackman is nude in the movie. The man is huge and GAWJUS! You can't beat that.

Well I'm sold!

 

[msa]

Guanidine Carbonate is an alkaline, organic salt utilized primarily as an ingredient in hair straightening and depilatory systems. When combined with calcium hydroxide in (no-lye) hair relaxers it reacts to form a less irritating system than sodium hydroxide-based (lye) systems. It also is used as a buffering agent and a pH adjuster.

All I could find. Sounds harmless compared to a lot of things put in products these days.

I don't think it's "harmless"...but it may be less damaging than some other things. Here's some more information, it's from a lab that sells it:

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AMI Guanidine Carbonate is a strong chemical base used as an intermediate in a variety of application
fields:​

• Cosmetics: Hair relaxers -a type of lotion or cream which straightens hair by chemically "relaxing" natural curls​
• Pharmaceuticals - antibiotics​
• Flame retardants for technical textiles​
• Micro encapsulation for carbonless paper​
• Guanidine Nitrate​

 

[tiffers]

Saw it a month ago. Great movie and Hugh Jackman is nude in the movie. The man is huge and GAWJUS! You can't beat that.

Full frontal?????

 

[JFemme]

Saw it a month ago. Great movie and Hugh Jackman is nude in the movie. The man is huge and GAWJUS! You can't beat that.

I may have to attend alone...

 

[that_1_grrrl]

I don't think it's "harmless"...but it may be less damaging than some other things. Here's some more information, it's from a lab that sells it:

"Less damaging" was the phrase I was looking for when I wrote it, but I couldn't think of it, so I just said harmless.

 

[SmartyPants]

WTH...


Did one of the natural hair boards close down or something? Why are we getting all these anti-relaxer folks in here all of a sudden?

 

[tiffers]

I may have to attend alone...

 

[that_1_grrrl]

WTH...


Did one of the natural hair boards close down or something? Why are we getting all these anti-relaxer folks in here all of a sudden?

I do not think this thread is anti-relaxer. People are just discussing what is in relaxers, not whether or not relaxers are a bad thing.

Someone (blanking out at the moment) even posted other products that contain the same ingredient. Nothing big.

 

[brooklyngal73]

Saw it a month ago. Great movie and Hugh Jackman is nude in the movie. The man is huge and GAWJUS! You can't beat that.

Well I'm sold!

Guess I'd better watch the movie...

Full frontal?????

I may have to attend alone...