Clarification regarding relaxers and drain cleaner....

[tiffers]

There seems to be some confusion going on that I wanted to clear up.....

Drain cleaners contain sodium hydroxide (lye)

Relaxers don't contain drain cleaner

Tis all

 

[Eisani]

Separate thread. Is this foresight? Don't tell me you're psychic too...

 

[tiffers]

Separate thread. Is this foresight? Don't tell me you're psychic too...

Loooook into my crystal ball :crystalba

 

[tiffers]

Naw, I just wanted to start a new topic so everyone could see. There's a big difference between Draino containing lye and relaxers containing Draino

 

[GV-NA-GI-TLV-GE-I]

Naw, I just wanted to start a new topic so everyone could see. There's a big difference between Draino containing lye and relaxers containing Draino

Exactly. Lye soap anyone? The use of which produced more manageable hair and led people to develop hair relaxers. I guess I shouldn't use a natural soap and clean my a@@

 

[vkb247]

I have obviously missed something but the relaxer/drano comparison comes from the fact that relaxers have the same ph levels as drano which goes to show how strong of a chemical it is and its potential for damage to hair since drano basically disolves hair...

 

[pookaloo83]

I don't know if it has the same ph levels or not, But relaxers do not contain the DRAIN CLEANSER.

 

[vkb247]

Well whether or not they contain drain cleansers - whatever those are - I think is kinda beyond the point. I was thinking about this lately because of the CLT(see my siggy). Baking soda and vinegar mixed together can clean drains. The combination fizzes up and actually has a nice, soft, slip feel to it. The CLT is yogurt, baking soda, and amino acids. It helps "reduce frizz" but definitely made me feel like I had a mild relaxer. I think that the baking soda reacts with the acid in the yogurt, it fizzes up just like the drain cleaner mix. This made me see a direct connection between things that change texture and things that clean drains.

In the thread about CLT at NC I said I think that the first "natural" relaxer has been discovered for the above reasons.

 

[LaidBak]

Dang, now I gotta watch 2 threads on this...

 

[Lucky's Mom]

There seems to be some confusion going on that I wanted to clear up.....

Drain cleaners contain sodium hydroxide (lye)

Relaxers don't contain drain cleaner

Tis all

No - of course they don't.... The comparison is often made due to the pH levels of both products..........They can be both very strong.

I think that is all.

 

[Bosslady1]

I use Phyto. All Natchal!

 

[LaidBak]

For the sake of accuracy and further clarification:

From the National Institutes of Health Household Products database:
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=19001016

Drano Ingredients from MSDS/Label
Chemical and Percent
Sodium hydroxide <2.0
Sodium hypochlorite <10
Water 85-95

http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hous...s&id=1016005&query=relaxer&searchas=TblBrands

Product Name: Alberto Culver Motions Moisture Hair Relaxer-Regular (Ethnic)
Ingredients from MSDS/Label
Chemical and Percent
Sodium hydroxide <2.5


Ok back to my

 

[vkb247]

I just the other thread. I know some like too call others mean for telling it like it is but seriously...if someone is continually going to come in here with some ignorance than I think they need to be told about themselves

 

[Lucky's Mom]

For the sake of accuracy and further clarification:

From the National Institutes of Health Household Products database:
http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/household/brands?tbl=brands&id=19001016

Drano Ingredients from MSDS/Label
Chemical and Percent
Sodium hydroxide <2.0
Sodium hypochlorite <10
Water 85-95

http://hpd.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/hous...s&id=1016005&query=relaxer&searchas=TblBrands

Product Name: Alberto Culver Motions Moisture Hair Relaxer-Regular (Ethnic)
Ingredients from MSDS/Label
Chemical and Percent
Sodium hydroxide <2.5


Ok back to my

LOL!!!!!
I will Join you - may I pull up a chair???

 

[Angelicus]

Thank you, Tiffers.

I wanted to add that I know someone that works for Clorox and she said that drain cleaners are about 98% water. She said that now that she works for the company she will NEVER ever buy drain cleaner again. It's all about baking soda and vinegar.

BTW, I didn't read the other thread and kind of don't want to.

 

[LaidBak]

Oh and one more thing. Again according the the NIH sodium Hydroxide is in everything from toothpaste, to Woolite, to eye gel, to laundry detergent, to cologne. So I wouldn't get all bent out of shape about it being in your relaxer.

Products that contain this ingredient

• Armor All No. 7 White Polishing Compound
• Mothers Car Wash
• Armor All No. 7 Rubbing Compound
• Krack Kote Wall & Ceiling Crack Repair Kit
• Double Agent Drain Opener with Nuggets
• Clorox Outdoor Bleach Cleaner
• Cabot Problem Solver Wood Stripper, No. 8004
• Hercules Glug Drain Opener
• Liquid Plumr Drain Cleaner
• Dawn Power Dissolver-08/24/2005
• Comet Kitchen Cleaner w/Bleach
• Dow Heavy Duty Oven Cleaner
• Clorox Clean Up Cleaner with Bleach
• Drano Max Liquid
• Floor Science Stripper LT
• Lysol Brand Plus Bleach
• Liquid-Plumr, Professional Strength Gel
• Shout Gel Laundry Stain Remover-Concentrated
• Tilex Mildew Root Penetrator & Remover-05/01/2007
• Drano Drain Cleaner (Institutional)
• Calgon Water Softener (Liquid)
• Woolite For All Colors, Fabric Wash Liquid
• Woolite Gentle Cycle Fabric Wash, All Scents (Liquid)-10/23/2003
• Comet with Bleach Liquid Gel Cleanser
• Lysol Brand PowerOns Toilet Bowl Cleaner-02/01/2007
• Electrasol Gel with Baking Soda
• Lysol Brand III Disinfectant, All Purpose Cleaner, 4 in 1 Lemon Scent, RTU
• Tide Ultra Liquid
• Tide Free Ultra Liquid
• Easy-Off Bam Multi-Surface Power Cleaner with Bleach, Pump Spray
• Drano Clog Remover (Liquid)-01/16/2007
• Fantastik All Purpose Cleaner with Bleach
• Dawn Detergent for Power Wash Sinks
• Vanish Mildew Stain Cleaner-Commercial-08/03/2000
• Spray N Wash Laundry Stain Remover Stain Stick
• Lysol Brand Disinfectant All Purpose Cleaner with Bleach
• Soft Scrub Scouring Cleanser with Bleach-10/01/2000
• Liquid Plumr Drain Cleaner-09/01/1999
• Clorox Clean Up Gel Kitchen Cleaner-10/01/2000
• Clorox Toilet Bowl Cleaner with Clinging Action, Rain Clean-05/01/2001
• Clorox Bleach Pen
• Liquid Plumr Foaming Pipe Snake
• Clorox Ultra Bleach-Mountain Fresh 3 Qts.
• Professional Strength Liquid Plumr Kitchen Clog Remover-Fresh Scent 1 Qt.
• Clorox Ultra Bleach-Citrus Blend 1.36 Gal
• Pro Formula 409 Degreaser
• Clorox Clean Up Gel Kitchen Cleaner
• Dawn Detergent for Power Wash Sinks-11/3/2005
• Clorox Liquid Toilet Bowl Cleaner
• Cascade Pure Rinse Formula-09/12/2006
• Tilex Instant Mildew Remover
• Dawn Automatic Dishwashing Liquid
• Fantastik with Bleach 2 in 1
• Smart Scrub Cleanser with Bleach
• Palmolive Ultra Antibacterial Hand Soap-08/26/2004
• Mr Muscle Oven and Grill Cleaner
• Vanish Mildew Stain Cleaner-Commercial
• Clorox High Efficiency Bleach Cleaner
• Comet with Bleach Liquid Cleaner
• Liquid-Plumr, Professional Strength, Kitchen Clog Remover, Fresh Scent
• S.O.S. Heavy Duty All Purpose Cleaner with Bleach
• Drano Max Clog Remover
• Tilex Mold Killer Mold & Mildew Remover
• Ultra Yes Liquid Laundry Detergent with Softener-07/05/2006
• Easy Off Heavy Duty Oven Cleaner-Original
• Woolite Liquid Fabric Wash, Dark Laundry-10/27/2004
• Yes Detergent Plus Bleach Alternative-06/01/2006
• Lysol Brand III Disinfectant, All Purpose Cleaner, 4 in 1 Orange Breeze, RTU
• Palmolive Gel-Lemon Scent
• Lysol Brand III Disinfectant, All Purpose Cleaner, 4 in 1 Lavender Scent, RTU
• Comet MultiRoom Liquid Gel Cleanser with Bleach
• Lysol Brand III Disinfectant, All Purpose Cleaner, 4 in 1 Linen Scent, RTU
• Drano Crystal Clog Remover
• Lysol Brand Disinfectant Mildew Remover with Bleach, Pump Spray
• Lysol Brand Disinfectant All Purpose Cleaner w Bleach, Pump Spray-06/15/2006
• Easy-Off Bam Power Stain and Drain
• Easy-Off Heavy Duty Oven Cleaner (Aerosol)-10/18/2005
• Fantastik All-Purpose Cleaner, Lemon
• Americas Home Value Oven Cleaner
• Champion Sprayon Oven Cleaner
• Cascade Pure Rinse Formula
• Mr Muscle Oven and Grill Cleaner-03/07/2002
• Easy Off Heavy Duty Oven Cleaner
• Woolite Fabric Wash Dark Fabric Laundry Liquid
• Spray N Wash Stain Stick-04/11/2002
• Clorox Toilet Bowl Cleaner with Clinging Action, Rain Clean
• Lasso Regular Bleach
• Tilex Instant Mildew Remover-10/01/2000
• Pro Formula 409 Degreaser-10/01/2000
• Clorox Clean Up Cleaner with Bleach-04/01/2002
• Clorox Clean Up Spray with Bleach-04/01/2002
• Clorox Ultra Bleach-Fresh Wildflowers
• Clorox Ultra Regular Bleach 1 Gal.
• Soft Scrub Liquid Gel With Bleach 1 Pt.
• Soft Scrub With Bleach Cleanser-Fresh Scent 1 lb. 8 Oz. (24 Oz.)
• Tilex Mold and Mildew Remover
• Tilex Mildew Root Penetrator and Remover
• Clorox Ultra Bleach-Fresh Meadow 1.5 Qts 1.34 Qt
• Cascade Plastic Booster, Plastic Cleaning Additive 6.8 oz Tube
• Lysol Brand Disinfectant Toilet Bowl Cleaner With Bleach
• Sprayway Grill and Oven Cleaner No. 826
• Clorox 2 Ultra Color Safe Bleach
• Concrete Cleaner
• Quikrete Concrete and Asphalt Cleaner
• Thompsons Deck Wash
• Spa Kem Liquid Shock
• Scotts Pure Premium Zoysiagrass Seed
• Kem Tek Kemklor II Chlorinating Liquid
• Hugo Boss Baldessarini After Shave-04/01/2006
• Lacoste Pour Homme After Shave Balm-04/01/2006
• Colgate Simply White Advanced Whitening Toothpaste
• Softsoap Body Wash, Ultra Rich Shea Butter
• Softsoap Advanced Moisture Cashmere Liquid Hand Soap
• Colgate Total 12-Hour MultiProtection Toothpaste Plus Whitening Gel
• Colgate Sensitive Maximum Strength Toothpaste
• Ultra Brite Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening Toothpaste-01/23/2007
• Viadent Advanced Care Fluoride Gel-10/18/2005
• Night of Olay Firming Cream
• Olay Total Effects Moisturizing Vitamin Complex w/UV Protect�Fragrance Free
• GoJo Creme with Pumice Heavy Duty Hand Cleaner
• GoJo Lemon Hand Cleaner with Pumice
• Ultra Brite Baking Soda Toothpaste
• Old Spice High Endurance Stick Deodorant, Original
• GoJo Lemon Hand Cleaner
• Aquafresh Striped Gel Whitening Toothpaste
• Johnsons Softwash Baby Wash
• Johnsons Softlotion, 24 Hour Moisture
• Crest Professional Strength WhiteStrips
• Boss Elements Eau de Toilette
• Crest Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Tartar Protection
• Aire by Giorgio of Beverly Hills Eau de Toilette Spray
• Boss Elements After Shave
• Boss No. 6 Cologne by Hugo Boss For Men
• G BY GIORGIO
• Giorgio Beverly Hills So You Eau de Toilette Spray
• HELMUT LANG Eau de Parfum Spray For Men
• Helmut Lang Men Eau de Cologne Spray
• HERVE LEGER by Herve Leger For Women
• Hugo Boss Baldessarini After Shave Balm
• Hugo Boss Ladies Eau de Toilette
• Lacoste Pour Femme Eau de Parfum
• Lacoste Pour Homme Aftershave Splash
• Laura Biagiotti Emotion Eau de Parfum Spray
• LAURA by Laura Biagiotti
• ROMA For Men By Laura Biagiotti
• TEMPORE UOMO For Men by Laura Biagiotti
• VENEZIA Eau de Toilette For Women by Laura Biagiotti
• Colgate Total Toothpaste
• Ultra Brite with Baking Soda & Peroxide Toothpaste
• Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide w/ Tartar Control Whitening Toothpaste
• Ponds Clear Solutions, Pore Clarifying Astringent, Oily to Normal Skin
• Oil of Olay Age Defying Series Revitalizing Eye Gel
• Topol Whitening Anticavity Toothpaste, Spearmint
• Jergens Skin Cooling Moisturizer, With Cucumber Extract
• Revlon Professional Cuticle Remover
• Alberto Culver Motions Moisture Hair Relaxer-Regular (Ethnic)
• Clairol Texture and Tones Relaxer (Ethnic)
• Crest Baking Soda & Peroxide Whitening with Tartar Protection-07/13/2004
• Hugo Boss Baldessarini After Shave Balm-04/01/2006
• Old Spice Post Shave Conditioner Hydrogel
• Lacoste Pour Homme After Shave Splash-04/01/2006
• Softsoap Kitchen Fresh Hands Liquid Hand Soap
• Softsoap Shea Butter Liquid Hand Soap
• Colgate Total Toothpaste-11/28/2006
• Colgate 2-in-1 Toothpaste Mouthwash Whitening Icy Blast
• Viadent Advanced Care Fluoride Toothpaste
• Dove Ultra Moisturizing Body Wash
• Imina Moisturizing Hand and Body Lotion
• Jergens Moisturizing Body Shampoo, Extra Moisturizing
• Imina Oil Control Facial Moisture Cream
• Oil of Olay ProVital Night Cream
• GoJo Creme Heavy Duty Hand Cleaner
• GoJo Fine Italian Pumice Hand Cleaner
• GoJo Orange Pumice Hand Cleaner
• GoJo Power Gold with Crushables Hand Cleaner
• Ultra Brite Toothpaste
• Nair 3 in 1 Brush on Cream Hair Remover
• Aquafresh Multi Action Whitening Toothpaste
• Aquafresh Whitening Toothpaste With Fluoride
• Johnsons Baby Lotion, Aloe Vera & Vitamin E
• Crest Whitening Strips
• Crest WhiteStrips Supreme
• Old Spice Red Zone Antiperspirant & Deodorant
• Hugo Boss Eau de Toilette Natural Spray
• Baldessarini Men's Eau de Cologne Spray
• Boss No. 1 Cologne by Hugo Boss For Men
• EMOTION For Women By Laura Biagiotti
• Giorgio Beverly Hills So You Eau de Parfum Spray
• Helmut Lang Curion for Men Aftershave Lotion
• Helmut Lang Men After Shave Lotion
• Helmut Lang Women Parfum Bottle
• Hugo Boss Baldessarini After Shave
• Hugo Boss Baldessarini Eau de Cologne Spray
• Hugo Dark Blue Men Eau de Toilette
• Lacoste Pour Homme Aftershave Balm
• Lacoste Pour Homme Eau de Toilette Vapo
• Laura Biagiotti Laura Eau de Toilette Spray
• ROMA by Laura Biagiotti WOMENS EDT SPRAY
• TEMPORE For Women by Laura Biagiotti
• VENEZIA Eau de Toilette For Men by Laura Biagiotti
• Colgate Total Toothpaste, Fresh Stripe
• Colgate Baking Soda & Peroxide w/ Tartar Control Clean Mint Toothpaste
• Colgate Tartar Control Whitening Mint Toothpaste
• Ponds Fresh Start Daily Wash
• Olay Total Effects Moisturizing Vitamin Complex
• Jergens Skin Firming Moisturizer with Seaweed Extract
• Alberto Culver Motions Moisture Hair Relaxer-Mild (Ethnic)
• Neutrogena Moisture for Sensitive Skin-Facial
• Alberto Culver Motions Hair Relaxer, Super (Ethnic)
• Clearly Natural Body Soap
  

C'Mon LuckysMom, I got a bag for you too.

 

[tiffers]

No - of course they don't.... The comparison is often made due to the pH levels of both products..........They can be both very strong.

I think that is all.

I just wanted to clarify because a few people in that other thread were saying things like "Wow, i didn't know relaxers had drain cleaner in them"

 

[Lucky's Mom]

Thank you, Tiffers.

I wanted to add that I know someone that works for Clorox and she said that drain cleaners are about 98% water. She said that now that she works for the company she will NEVER ever buy drain cleaner again. It's all about baking soda and vinegar.

BTW, I didn't read the other thread and kind of don't want to.

Thanks for the Tip!!! I kinda knew that anyway - the sink drained quickly after I brushed with Baking Soda and Vinegar

 

[that_1_grrrl]

Oh and one more thing. Again according the the NIH sodium Hydroxide is in everything from toothpaste, to Woolite, to eye gel, to laundry detergent, to cologne. So I wouldn't get all bent out of shape about it being in your relaxer.

Eye gel?


Hmm... Thanks for the list. I am glad I do not use most of that stuff anyway. But toothpaste? C'mon. I think I might end up going back to just using baking soda.

 

[sunshinelady]

If the main ingredient is the same, what's the issue? Drain cleaner may contain a higher concentration of SH, but it does contain it.

 

[sunshinelady]

Cream of Nature green label had sodium hydroxide in it.

 

[vkb247]

I think it would matter what you mean by main ingredient. I don't think that SH is the main ingredient as in mostly SH based on the percentages above.

 

[keysha1983]

:endworld: no draino? oh my!

 

[LaidBak]

Eye gel?


Hmm... Thanks for the list. I am glad I do not use most of that stuff anyway. But toothpaste? C'mon. I think I might end up going back to just using baking soda.

You're welcome. And that wasn't even the whole list. The original post was too long so I had to take quite a bit off that list. The point I wanted to illustrate was that SH is not the enemy. Its in practically everything!

 

[Lucky's Mom]

I just wanted to clarify because a few people in that other thread were saying things like "Wow, i didn't know relaxers had drain cleaner in them"

OOOOOH.............

Ok - got it!

 

[Lucky's Mom]

You're welcome. And that wasn't even the whole list. The original post was too long so I had to take quite a bit off that list. The point I wanted to illustrate was that SH is not the enemy. Its in practically everything!

Respectfully - I disagree with that....But...

Carry on...........................

 

[GV-NA-GI-TLV-GE-I]

Well whether or not they contain drain cleansers - whatever those are - I think is kinda beyond the point. I was thinking about this lately because of the CLT(see my siggy). Baking soda and vinegar mixed together can clean drains. The combination fizzes up and actually has a nice, soft, slip feel to it. The CLT is yogurt, baking soda, and amino acids. It helps "reduce frizz" but definitely made me feel like I had a mild relaxer. I think that the baking soda reacts with the acid in the yogurt, it fizzes up just like the drain cleaner mix. This made me see a direct connection between things that change texture and things that clean drains.

In the thread about CLT at NC I said I think that the first "natural" relaxer has been discovered for the above reasons.

What do the abbreviations stand for?

 

[tiffers]

Ladies, I can see this thread turning for the worse. Please don't get my poor little innocent thread locked I just wanted to make a simple clarification, that's all.

I don't want this turned into yet ANOTHER relaxed vs natural thread. I've seen enough of those to last a lifetime

 

[Eisani]

*walks out singing* "Go on and swear/See if I care/Good and bad hair"

(some of) Y'all got me wanting to and act a damn fool today, but I will display self-control. Reading is oh so fundamental...damn.

 

[taz007]

I use Phyto. All Natchal!

Exactly what I was going to post!