luckiestdestiny
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Hi everyone. I've been a member of this site for some years now. I find that I'm often able to help my mother who is relaxed, though I'm natural just from the info I've found here in addition to the fact that I considered...until now myself a growing expert on hair (of course I can always learn more which is why I keep up my subscription). Nothing usually stumps me until now. So please put on your amateur chemist hats, and hair expertise hats and help my 84 year old grandmother if you can! Thanks so much to my hair family in advance.
On to my grandmother. This time I'm stumped....
So my grandmother just had a TIA which is a mild stroke. We went home to see her and this is around the time that I discovered with horror how much her hair is coming out and snapping. YES I know she had a TIA. She's aware of that too. We've done everything to make sure she's on track with that including getting the right and perfect team to rehabilitate, etc.
However people care about themselves too and my grandmother told me she is embarrassed about her hair and it's coming out. I nodded just thinking she hasn't combed it in a while, but upon combing it I had to stop. I MEAN STOP because I was so horrified and scared because it was snapping like no tomorrow.
Some key points that I hope will help your suggestions:
1)my grandmother has always been natural until she met said hair stylist.
2) my grandmother's hair was about mid back before this episode. She's probably 4a.
3) She went to a hairstylist just before she had the TIA about a few weeks before and this lady said she put in something the hair to make her hair "easier to comb" according to my grandmother.
4) When I talked to her, Said lady mentioned that she just put in conditioner.
5) my grandmom said she put in something that smelled chemically and she waited for a while and then washed it out.
6) She told my grandmother it was like a curl but without the rollers
. So I'm thinking THIO based?
7) She did not give my grandma anything to put on it afterwards.
8) My grandma said she looked like a chemist mixing stuff up before putting it on her hair taking a bit of "this" and "that" and mixing it in containers. Normally she would have said no and left but sadly my grandma was just so tired at the time, that she let her do it. Now we know her extreme fatigue was because she was on her way to having a TIA (or mild stroke) within that week so that's why she was just in a forget about it, whatever mood and let this lady do this to her.
9) I called said lady and she was back tracking. One minute she said one thing the next she said another.
10) My grandmother is known for her "beautiful hair" in that small town so I guess there are older jealous ladies (like really I saw how catty they were and was like really? I mean you're older ladies you should know better, get it together and grow up!). So I'm not sure if this was some crappy retaliation or if the hairstylist was just annoyed or stupid, or just wanted to make it easier to comb her hair.
Bottom line, it could be thio based, it could be a relaxer (lye or no lye). Who knows because the lady won't spill the beans now that she knows how severely her hair is breaking
.
Top guess? :I'm thinking it's more thio based than anything. BUT it's NOT my grandmother's natural hair. Something was done to it.
Questions after this point:
How do I stop the breakage? Is there anything universal I can do. I know if it was a relaxer I could perhaps put on a neutralizer in case she over processed. And also if it was shedding from the root I could do a garlic shampoo and treatment. But in this case I don't know WHAT this lady put in her hair. And I'm ticked at seeing my grandmother so sad about her har after a TIA. And sure she's upset about everything else, but my grandmother loves her hair and she looked heart broken when I was combing it. So here's the thing, we are focusing on her health but part of that to me is mental health too. If I can get her self esteem up, that's one less thing. And though she is "not her hair". It sucks that some one came in and destroyed it. And she and I want to help salvage what is left if possible plus stop the madness.
Other notes:
All test results show thyroid is fine, and no other indicators for hair loss. Hair started breaking after whatever "treatment" this lady did.
So anyways...it's just wiry and brittle and snapping all over the place. She's probably APL now (from MBL) and I'm sure with all the stringiness and breakage it will end up being Shoulder to even chin length after all of this.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
What would you recommend if you were me to strengthen the hair and stop as much breakage as possible in it's track? Or do we need to let it ride, and wait until it stops breaking?
On to my grandmother. This time I'm stumped....
So my grandmother just had a TIA which is a mild stroke. We went home to see her and this is around the time that I discovered with horror how much her hair is coming out and snapping. YES I know she had a TIA. She's aware of that too. We've done everything to make sure she's on track with that including getting the right and perfect team to rehabilitate, etc.
However people care about themselves too and my grandmother told me she is embarrassed about her hair and it's coming out. I nodded just thinking she hasn't combed it in a while, but upon combing it I had to stop. I MEAN STOP because I was so horrified and scared because it was snapping like no tomorrow.
Some key points that I hope will help your suggestions:
1)my grandmother has always been natural until she met said hair stylist.
2) my grandmother's hair was about mid back before this episode. She's probably 4a.
3) She went to a hairstylist just before she had the TIA about a few weeks before and this lady said she put in something the hair to make her hair "easier to comb" according to my grandmother.
4) When I talked to her, Said lady mentioned that she just put in conditioner.
5) my grandmom said she put in something that smelled chemically and she waited for a while and then washed it out.
6) She told my grandmother it was like a curl but without the rollers
. So I'm thinking THIO based? 7) She did not give my grandma anything to put on it afterwards.
8) My grandma said she looked like a chemist mixing stuff up before putting it on her hair taking a bit of "this" and "that" and mixing it in containers. Normally she would have said no and left but sadly my grandma was just so tired at the time, that she let her do it. Now we know her extreme fatigue was because she was on her way to having a TIA (or mild stroke) within that week so that's why she was just in a forget about it, whatever mood and let this lady do this to her.
9) I called said lady and she was back tracking. One minute she said one thing the next she said another.
10) My grandmother is known for her "beautiful hair" in that small town so I guess there are older jealous ladies (like really I saw how catty they were and was like really? I mean you're older ladies you should know better, get it together and grow up!). So I'm not sure if this was some crappy retaliation or if the hairstylist was just annoyed or stupid, or just wanted to make it easier to comb her hair.
Bottom line, it could be thio based, it could be a relaxer (lye or no lye). Who knows because the lady won't spill the beans now that she knows how severely her hair is breaking
. Top guess? :I'm thinking it's more thio based than anything. BUT it's NOT my grandmother's natural hair. Something was done to it.
Questions after this point:
How do I stop the breakage? Is there anything universal I can do. I know if it was a relaxer I could perhaps put on a neutralizer in case she over processed. And also if it was shedding from the root I could do a garlic shampoo and treatment. But in this case I don't know WHAT this lady put in her hair. And I'm ticked at seeing my grandmother so sad about her har after a TIA. And sure she's upset about everything else, but my grandmother loves her hair and she looked heart broken when I was combing it. So here's the thing, we are focusing on her health but part of that to me is mental health too. If I can get her self esteem up, that's one less thing. And though she is "not her hair". It sucks that some one came in and destroyed it. And she and I want to help salvage what is left if possible plus stop the madness.
Other notes:
All test results show thyroid is fine, and no other indicators for hair loss. Hair started breaking after whatever "treatment" this lady did.
So anyways...it's just wiry and brittle and snapping all over the place. She's probably APL now (from MBL) and I'm sure with all the stringiness and breakage it will end up being Shoulder to even chin length after all of this.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
What would you recommend if you were me to strengthen the hair and stop as much breakage as possible in it's track? Or do we need to let it ride, and wait until it stops breaking?
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If this were my grandmother I'd be out to KILL.
at "Hood IDGAF family members"
.
everybody has given you great advice including the taking of legal action. i wanna kick her behind too!!! some gradual trimming every couple of months paired with rotation of hard core protein & deep conditioning and protective styling should get her back on track. if it wasn't a relaxer it was def a curly perm of some kind and her hair is not reacting well to the chemicals.
