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If my everyday moisturizer is working better than any kind of deep moisturizing conditoner...Like my moisturizer would be a 10, and all deepconditoners i've tried a 2....Is their any point in deepconditong? Is their any point in conditong at all?

Because to me, i feel like my hair would be the same if i shampood and didnt use any conditoner and went straight to my moisturizer.
 
Angry Hair said:
Can using a regular wash out conditioner as a leave-in condition be toxic to your hair?
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ITA with what was said...moisturizing conditioners make great leave-ins. for the past few days i have been leaving in ALL the vo5 after my cowash and my hair has never been softer, bouncier, and unshrunken-er. lol
 
fluffylocks said:
If my everyday moisturizer is working better than any kind of deep moisturizing conditoner...Like my moisturizer would be a 10, and all deepconditoners i've tried a 2....Is their any point in deepconditong? Is their any point in conditong at all?

Because to me, i feel like my hair would be the same if i shampood and didnt use any conditoner and went straight to my moisturizer.
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what DC are you using? matter of fact...what moisturizer are you using?

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lilsparkle825 said:
what DC are you using? matter of fact...what moisturizer are you using?

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:lachen::lachen:Girl, i dont know if its my coarse hair or what, but only glycerin/activator type moisturizers work for me (So carefree, silk 2 curly ect.) They give me a really glossy look, really soft and silky hair....

The creme and lotion types have always did jack diddly squat, and most conditoners ususally just sit on my hair.

Only conditoenrs that have ever did ANYTHTING were Silicon Mix, and ORS replenish. :sad: These conditoners are a 10 compared to my others, but still dont add up to my moisturizers :ohwell:
 
fluffylocks said:
:lachen::lachen:Girl, i dont know if its my coarse hair or what, but only glycerin/activator type moisturizers work for me (So carefree, silk 2 curly ect.) They give me a really glossy look, really soft and silky hair....

The creme and lotion types have always did jack diddly squat, and most conditoners ususally just sit on my hair.

Only conditoenrs that have ever did ANYTHTING were Silicon Mix, and ORS replenish. :sad: These conditoners are a 10 compared to my others, but still dont add up to my moisturizers :ohwell:
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well my sister has coarse hair so i tried a kenra mc/honey/raw shea butter/EVOO dc on her and it was amaaaazing. very soft afterwards. but in regards to the "can i skip the DC" part...IMO i wouldn't. spike the silicon mix or ORSpak and see what happens.

i'm gonna have to look into those moisturizers though...and since she normally has braids or twists the spray part is even better.
 
lilsparkle825 said:
well my sister has coarse hair so i tried a kenra mc/honey/raw shea butter/EVOO dc on her and it was amaaaazing. very soft afterwards. but in regards to the "can i skip the DC" part...IMO i wouldn't. spike the silicon mix or ORSpak and see what happens.

i'm gonna have to look into those moisturizers though...and since she normally has braids or twists the spray part is even better.
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Ok, thanks-Your right, I will try mixing with other more moisturizing things like that mixture you did right there.

Oh yes, i normally use the ones that you pour out, but when i had braids and was using Scurl..took them jokers out and my hair was very moisturized...When i use to use just liquid watery sprays my hair was rough when i took it out....I think she will really like it.
 
lilsparkle825 said:
ITA with what was said...moisturizing conditioners make great leave-ins. for the past few days i have been leaving in ALL the vo5 after my cowash and my hair has never been softer, bouncier, and unshrunken-er. lol
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whoo lawd, don't get me started on the V05 as a leave in...:yep:
 
when you ladies say "moisturizer" can you give me an example of what you mean. I use ORS Olive oil moisturizer. I am looking for some others, may I have some suggestions?
 
Hello Ladies,

I just went and got a relaxer on Tuesday and was wondering how soon I can co-wash. My hair is way to straight and I need to get some life in it stat! Water is the only thing I can think of to do that.
 
I just learned how to multiquote :yay:!

tycoles said:
Hello Ladies,

I just went and got a relaxer on Tuesday and was wondering how soon I can co-wash. My hair is way to straight and I need to get some life in it stat! Water is the only thing I can think of to do that.
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After a perm the hair must neutralize for another 72 hours by using the oxygen in the air. Any shampoo, hot water, or heavy soap, will reopen the cuticle on the hair shaft and possible rearranging, the chemical bond, called H-BONDS,causing the hair to revert in it's natural state, which at the time before the hair was permed was straight.

I'm assuming this would be the same for relaxing and that after washing your hair would revert to its curly state. After 72 hours the hair is completely neutralized , with less changes of relaxing the hair. Since you relaxed Tuesday, you can wash Friday evening or Saturday - hang in there - you can make it!!!

bbdgirl said:
when you ladies say "moisturizer" can you give me an example of what you mean. I use ORS Olive oil moisturizer. I am looking for some others, may I have some suggestions?
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There is a vast range of moisturizers that is being used. Some simply use water mixed with glycerin or some other mix, some use conditioners as moisturizers, and then there are the creamy moisturizers like the ORS Oil oil mositurizer that may come in jars or bottles. It depends on what your hair prefers. I use BB Castor Oil Moisturizer in the jar. For the most part, the first ingredient in your moisturizer should be water. If it starts with petroleum/mineral oil its most likely a grease and not a moisturizer. There is a thread on the best moisturizer. I'll see if I can find it.
 
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texasqt said:
After a perm the hair must neutralize for another 72 hours by using the oxygen in the air. Any shampoo, hot water, or heavy soap, will reopen the cuticle on the hair shaft and possible rearranging, the chemical bond, called H-BONDS,causing the hair to revert in it's natural state, which at the time before the hair was permed was straight. After 72 hours the hair is completely neutralized , with less changes of relaxing the hair. Since you relaxed Tuesday, you can wash Friday evening or Saturday - hang in there - you can make it!!!
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really? didn't know that. so say somebody was transitioning, got relaxed out of the blue and regretted it, could they just wash a few times , cowash daily or somethin?
 
me-T said:
really? didn't know that. so say somebody was transitioning, got relaxed out of the blue and regretted it, could they just wash a few times , cowash daily or somethin?
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It sounds like it would doesn't it:grin: I wish! But I don't think the level of reversion would really take them 100% back to their natural texture. Its more like if you relaxed bone straight and wash too soon your hair will come out looking like its underprocessed.
 
texasqt said:
It sounds like it would doesn't it:grin: I wish! But I don't think the level of reversion would really take them 100% back to their natural texture. Its more like if you relaxed bone straight and wash too soon your hair will come out looking like its underprocessed.
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ohhh ok. that would be stupid huh? lol all that damage jus to get a texlaxed look:nono:
 
Okay - quick explanation why I'm asking this question:

Right now I'm a TWA and the only thing that gets any curl definition (that I've tried) is Kinky Curly with ORS Olive Oil Moisture Lotion as a base. And it's VERRRRRRRY Heavy and sticky.

So - if I want to do an EVOO Pre-Poo and scalp massage... is it as effective THROUGH all that product in my hair? I would hate to be blocking my blessing. *sigh* I suppose it wouldn't be a PRE-poo if I washed it out first huh? Just looking for some confirmation to the thought process - THANK YOU :)
 
tycoles said:
Hello Ladies,

I just went and got a relaxer on Tuesday and was wondering how soon I can co-wash. My hair is way to straight and I need to get some life in it stat! Water is the only thing I can think of to do that.
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You can co wash whenever you wanna:yep: but I wait atleast 3 days:grin:
 
conskeeted said:
Okay - quick explanation why I'm asking this question:

Right now I'm a TWA and the only thing that gets any curl definition (that I've tried) is Kinky Curly with ORS Olive Oil Moisture Lotion as a base. And it's VERRRRRRRY Heavy and sticky.

So - if I want to do an EVOO Pre-Poo and scalp massage... is it as effective THROUGH all that product in my hair? I would hate to be blocking my blessing. *sigh* I suppose it wouldn't be a PRE-poo if I washed it out first huh? Just looking for some confirmation to the thought process - THANK YOU :)
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I see what you are asking:yep:... think if you wash it out and then do the pre-poo/massage, you are losing some of the benefit of the pre-poo. But, what if you only used water and then let it air-dry and then do the oil pre-poo...:ohwell: OK, that's a lot of work for a pre-poo:lachen:sounds kinda silly...i do my pre-poos on some of the dirtiest hair imaginable and i still see the benefits. I'd say go ahead and do the pre-poo with the porducts already in and then shampoo...:yep: that's what i wud do...i do think we overthink some of this stuff...
 
FindingMe said:
I see what you are asking:yep:... think if you wash it out and then do the pre-poo/massage, you are losing some of the benefit of the pre-poo. But, what if you only used water and then let it air-dry and then do the oil pre-poo...:ohwell: OK, that's a lot of work for a pre-poo:lachen:sounds kinda silly...i do my pre-poos on some of the dirtiest hair imaginable and i still see the benefits. I'd say go ahead and do the pre-poo with the porducts already in and then shampoo...:yep: that's what i wud do...i do think we overthink some of this stuff...
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MOST AWESOME - I'm sitting here in a Cinnamon Conditioner and EVOO Pre poo right now :)

Thank you for confirming, Finding Me - I was thinking I was crazeee :)
 
FindingMe said:
ooohhhhh, ok it's a calming down technique...i get it now...:grin:



oooh, yeah!!!:spinning: I can't wait, 'cause my po lil lashes need some help- do you use it on your hair? if so, how's it working for you and how do you use it?
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Oh, Yes I do, I've added a capful to my deep conditionder, and a capful to my Lacio Lacio leave in. I've used these two products both before and after adding the SAA, and it does make a difference. My hair is really soft, silky and had lots of body after I wash. The good thing is that a little goes a long way. Just pour a capful in your favorite condish and mix it and "Bam" your in love again :lachen:
 
for people who do braid/twist/bantu - outs, do you redo the bantu knots every night? I like to do bantu-knot-outs but i'm afraid if I sleep without redoing them my hair will be a hot mess in the morning. But then again I'd like to be low manipulation.....what do most of you do?
 
Thanks for answering my previous question :) I have another one. If the sun lightens your hair, does it ever go back to the original color or do you have to dye it? The sun has really lightened my hair and I don't like it, but I'm not too keen on dying it either. Thanks.
 
bbdgirl said:
when you ladies say "moisturizer" can you give me an example of what you mean. I use ORS Olive oil moisturizer. I am looking for some others, may I have some suggestions?
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Shea Moisture's Shea Butter Leave In (can be used as both a leave in and a daily moisturizer)
Qhemet Biologic's Burdock Root Butter Cream
 
felicia said:
Thanks for answering my previous question :) I have another one. If the sun lightens your hair, does it ever go back to the original color or do you have to dye it? The sun has really lightened my hair and I don't like it, but I'm not too keen on dying it either. Thanks.
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Your color won't revert back. You can try rinses if you don't want to permanently dye your hair:yep:

shmmr said:
for people who do braid/twist/bantu - outs, do you redo the bantu knots every night? I like to do bantu-knot-outs but i'm afraid if I sleep without redoing them my hair will be a hot mess in the morning. But then again I'd like to be low manipulation.....what do most of you do?
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I don't redo my knots at night, I either sleep on a satin pillowcase or wear a satin bonnet. Wake up, fluff and I'm on my way. I usually do mine small, so I don't have to worry about them getting frizzy quickly. HTH
 
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