Can I ask a DUMB question

[MicheePrings]

Is the L really needed in the LOC or LCO method?

Does normal porosity hair benefit from steaming and/or DCing?

LivingDoll
To answer the first part of your question I would say no in the case you just washed your hair and it is already wet, so you would just seal in the moisture with your oil and cream. However if you are moisturizing your hair between washes I would say the liquid is necessary.

For your second question, I'm not too sure about steaming because I don't have a steamer, however I do believe that all hair types can benefit from deep conditioning. IMHO normal porosity hair would acccept moisture penetration more easily/faster than low porosity hair, but would loose moisture slower than high pososity hair. So it's only a question as how frequent and for what duration does normal porosity hair needs to be DC'ed for to receive benefit.

 

[LivingDoll]

MicheePrings...both answers make perfect sense. Thanks for answering.

 

[divachyk]

Allandra, everything worked out and the glue washed away with no issues. TY for your help!

 

[Nonie]

wash and baggy.

I see this one a lot. I know it involves some kind of hair maintenance but I am not familiar with the term. I have been in this forum lurking a lot but here is a term that I have not been able to figure out: bagging. I know it involves some kind of process for moisturizing hair... but that is about all I know.

mariefof, baggying is putting on a plastic cap, plastic bag, Saran wrap...or any sort of plastic over your whole head or just part of your hair like a bun before you apply a phony pony in order to prevent moisture loss from your hair. It also creates heat inside the cap that seem to recycle moisture or infuse your strands with moisture. I think it also encourages sebum production. Green House Effect is another term you will see used which IMO means the same thing but some people say GHE involves applying products on scalp not hair; others say it involves baggying hair wet with water instead of product. I thought it meant baggying with no product on hair as I do. Today I decided that for me, I will use the words interchangeably as they both have to do with trapping moisture within plastic so you don't lose it.

Most people baggy with a product on their hair and it's like they give their hair a moisture treatment with the cap on. Some people baggy with nothing on (like me). When I put on a plastic cap on my bare hair for the night, the last conditioner smell gets magnified as if I am getting a whole repeat of the conditioning process and my hair smells as if freshly conditioned when I wake up. It also means that the moisture I got from my last conditioning isn't lost to my bedding or a scarf. I also wrap Saran wrap around my head when wearing headwraps or hats for the same reason that I want to retain whatever moisture my hair has.

A lot of people find baggying the whole head uncomfortable, either because it's suffocating to them, or their hair gets so wet especially if they had a lot of product. Some people poke holes to overcome this. Other people find baggying for the night impossible because the rustling of the plastic keeps them awake. This is where Saran wrap comes in handy and it actually is good for retaining a style sort of the same way you might tie a scarf to keep a style fresh. Of course you wouldn't baggy if you are trying to keep a straight style and are natural because the moisture would cause reversion.

This link below shows you one of my idols adrienne0914 baggying the ends of her hair before putting on a drawstring phony pony. (BTW the reason baggying ends is a good idea is because hair ends are the oldest part of your hair and the first to lose moisture as they are like an open end of a cylinder. This why people seal their ends to prevent moisture loss since dryness leads to breakage/splitting. So if you baggy your ends, you basically put a stop to any moisture loss. Hence it is a good protective regimen):

http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/1283174 (Click on the thumbprints to the left to read through each step of the process)

 

[Allandra]

divachyk

Great! I'm glad to hear that. Take care dear.

@Allandra, everything worked out and the glue washed away with no issues. TY for your help!

 

[JosieLynn]

So i tried asking this question in the weave thread but nobody got back to me. I know almost nothing about weave, sew in etc. but I really want to get one for the summer since I usually have the urge to wear my hair out which causes tons of breakage in the summer. So can anyone give me a SUPER basic breakdown about going about getting a weave, like how many bundles of hair do you usually need? I want to use it to make a u-part wig, if i have hair of different lengths which track do i sew on first? what does weft sealing do? Do i have to sew it to my hair or can I have a wig cap in-between? what's the best way to prevent my hair from breaking? how long can you wear a weave install at a time??

I apologize if these are really stupid questions but i legitimately don't know, i've been looking through threads and youtube videos but some really basic stuff still isn't really explained.

 

[Igotstripes]

JosieLynn
Hey!
1. I think 2-3 bundles would be good
2. Start with the longer lengths in the back. When that's done move to the shorter one
3. Weft sealing keeps the hair from shedding too much especially if you cut the tracks
4. You don't have to sew it down I think you can get clips or something. You do need the cap tho
5. Making sure you keep your reaL hair moisturized and that your braids aren't too tight
6. I would say no more than 2 months
There is a wig thread somewhere you should check out since you are making a wig but I can't remember the name atm

 

[HanaKuroi]

When I weaved I used shorter in the back and longer in the top. That way it hung evenly and was fuller.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y

 

[Jobwright]

Does anyone else have to use Liquid Plumber weekly or more than once weekly? Do I have bad plumbing, or is it normal to need to clean the drain often? I don't have massive amounts of shedding so its not hair stopping up the drain. All the tea, conditioner and oils seem to be causing a slow drain. Am I the only one?

 

[TwoSnapsUp]

Does anyone else have to use Liquid Plumber weekly or more than once weekly? Do I have bad plumbing, or is it normal to need to clean the drain often? I don't have massive amounts of shedding so its not hair stopping up the drain. All the tea, conditioner and oils seem to be causing a slow drain. Am I the only one?

Omg, was just going to ask this..
Yes! And It's not helping.

 

[bhndbrwneyes]

Ok this is super dumb. What is the difference between relaxed and texlaxed? Is it just the amount of time the relaxer is left to process on your hair?

I've been transitioning for 15 months, not thinking about relaxing/texlaxing but I was curious. I had always asked for my hair to be relaxed bone straight but when I'd wash it or when the slightest moisture would seep it, it would seem to "revert". Maybe it was just texlaxed. And when I look at my hair now while it's wet I have my super curly NG, then it's bone straight for about 1.5-2 inches and then it's wavy (about 3b/c texture when it dries) all the way to the ends. Is that evidence that my hair was texlaxed first and then relaxed?

People can't even tell my ends are relaxed. Here's a pic, only the first few inches are NG.

 

[JudithO]

bhndbrwneyes around here... relaxed means bone straight... texlaxed means "relaxed but leave behind some texture"... People accomplish this by either reducing the time the relaxer stays in the hair, adding oils/conditioners to the relaxer before application and/or not smoothing the relaxer into the hair after application.

Your ends look texlaxed to me.

 

[bhndbrwneyes]

@judy4all that's what I figured. When I attempt to do a WNG my (I guess) texlaxed ends come out nearly just as curly as my NG it's just not as thick due to heat/styling damage. Then I have this awkward section of bone straight hair right in the middle.

Well this definitely changes my whole opinion of relaxers cuz this entire time I was wondering why my relaxers weren't "holding". Smh it's cuz my hair wasn't getting relaxed. At least it definitely made my transition a lot easier since the different hair textures aren't TOO far off.

 

[JudithO]

bhndbrwneyes yeah.... benefits of texlaxed hair... much thicker than bone straight hair, but easier to maneuver than natural hair.... texture differences are less so easier to stretch.. you can still wear wash and go's etc

 

[Cattypus1]

Ok this is super dumb. What is the difference between relaxed and texlaxed? Is it just the amount of time the relaxer is left to process on your hair?

I've been transitioning for 15 months, not thinking about relaxing/texlaxing but I was curious. I had always asked for my hair to be relaxed bone straight but when I'd wash it or when the slightest moisture would seep it, it would seem to "revert". Maybe it was just texlaxed. And when I look at my hair now while it's wet I have my super curly NG, then it's bone straight for about 1.5-2 inches and then it's wavy (about 3b/c texture when it dries) all the way to the ends. Is that evidence that my hair was texlaxed first and then relaxed?

People can't even tell my ends are relaxed. Here's a pic, only the first few inches are NG.

I want that hair. That is exactly the texture I'm shooting for! I cannot answer your questions but I want love your hair!

 

[Naturelie]

Is it normal to find residues in Vatika oil? I've just bought 2 bottles and I'm disappointed cause there are a lot of little residues. It looks like something natural but I would like to be sure before I use it. Thanks for answering!

 

[Nonie]

Is it normal to find residues in Vatika oil? I've just bought 2 bottles and I'm disappointed cause there are a lot of little residues. It looks like something natural but I would like to be sure before I use it. Thanks for answering!

Residues? (I think of residue as something left behind when you finish something.) Do you mean stuff at the bottom of the liquid?

The oil is made of mixture of natural products used Ayurveda hair care so it doesn't surprise me that sediments would settle or separate. This is why it's a good idea to shake well before use so you get all the good parts and don't miss out on any.

 

[melahnee]

about rollers/flexirods and stuff..

what's the best/easiest type to start with? I don't have a picture of my unstraightened hair (promise i'll get around to it soon), but I THINK it is a 3b, and I thought my hair was fine, but i don't know about that anymore. i'm attaching a picture of my hair straightened at the salon last month so that you guys can get an idea.

I've only ever tried rollers (a long time ago), and was very unsuccessful. idk how much sense this will make, but it almost seems like there is not enough room on my head for all the rollers? or i might be using the wrong size, I'm not sure, but I remember my attempts would fail and it would be because I had trouble fitting them all on my head. last thing, I'm like anti-heat..lol i've straightened my hair twice in the past ~8 months, i don't even like hooded dryers to be honest, so it'd be great if i could avoid heat altogether.

 

[biznesswmn]

Will aphogee 2 step still work if u deep condish beforehand? Will the condish coat the hair too much to allow the aphogee to bind to the hair?

Yes, i did not follow directions and did this :-(. I notice less breakage but my hair doesnt feel much different so i wonder if it workd.

 

[biznesswmn]

Bumpity bump

 

[HanaKuroi]

about rollers/flexirods and stuff..

what's the best/easiest type to start with? I don't have a picture of my unstraightened hair (promise i'll get around to it soon), but I THINK it is a 3b, and I thought my hair was fine, but i don't know about that anymore. i'm attaching a picture of my hair straightened at the salon last month so that you guys can get an idea.

I've only ever tried rollers (a long time ago), and was very unsuccessful. idk how much sense this will make, but it almost seems like there is not enough room on my head for all the rollers? or i might be using the wrong size, I'm not sure, but I remember my attempts would fail and it would be because I had trouble fitting them all on my head. last thing, I'm like anti-heat..lol i've straightened my hair twice in the past ~8 months, i don't even like hooded dryers to be honest, so it'd be great if i could avoid heat altogether.

You might get more responses if you repost on one of the roller setting threads. I can't remember the name of any right now.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y

 

[Blairx0]

about rollers/flexirods and stuff..

what's the best/easiest type to start with? I don't have a picture of my unstraightened hair (promise i'll get around to it soon), but I THINK it is a 3b, and I thought my hair was fine, but i don't know about that anymore. i'm attaching a picture of my hair straightened at the salon last month so that you guys can get an idea.

I've only ever tried rollers (a long time ago), and was very unsuccessful. idk how much sense this will make, but it almost seems like there is not enough room on my head for all the rollers? or i might be using the wrong size, I'm not sure, but I remember my attempts would fail and it would be because I had trouble fitting them all on my head. last thing, I'm like anti-heat..lol i've straightened my hair twice in the past ~8 months, i don't even like hooded dryers to be honest, so it'd be great if i could avoid heat altogether.

Ive read that a roller should be ab to make 2 complete revolutions in order to fit.

I also used to have issues with rollers fitting but that was mostly do to placement. Are you parting before rolling? What style are you trying to achieve? Stop by and see us in the setting to success thread. There is a link in my siggy

 

[melahnee]

Ive read that a roller should be ab to make 2 complete revolutions in order to fit.

I also used to have issues with rollers fitting but that was mostly do to placement. Are you parting before rolling? What style are you trying to achieve? Stop by and see us in the setting to success thread. There is a link in my siggy

HanaKuroi - thank you!

Blairx0

that does help, and yes I am parting before rolling..the way I've done it is all of them straight in the middle from top to bottom, and turned to the side on the sides. i hope that makes sense.

I'm thinking my problem is not getting enough hair in the sections. i always tried to make the sections small because I was thinking of the way you flat-ironing, where smaller sections > larger sections.

I'm going to try again soon, after I get new ones, cause I think this is a problem as well.

Thank you!

 

[NaiyaAi]

Omg, was just going to ask this..
Yes! And It's not helping.

Jobwright
TwoSnapsUp

Plunge first, then pour baking soda and lemon juice or vinegar, followed by boiling water. A lot of steps, but it works every time.

 

[TwoSnapsUp]

@Jobwright
@TwoSnapsUp

Plunge first, then pour baking soda and lemon juice or vinegar, followed by boiling water. A lot of steps, but it works every time.

I tried this but it made it worse. Looking back, it's probably because I did not use boiling water. Next time, thanks! NaiyaAi

 

[NefertariBlu]

How does using oil when taking down braid/twist reduce frizz? What does the oil do to the hair to prevent frizzing?

 

[Lilmama1011]

How does using oil when taking down braid/twist outreduce frizz? What does the oil do to the hair to prevent frizzing?

Frizz is made by humidity or aka water in the air or products you use. Moisturizers contain water so it frizzes the hair, oil does not

 

[NefertariBlu]

Got it. Thanks

 

[Incognitus]

What is the "Siren" thread I keep hearing about? Can someone share the link please???

 

[Nonie]

@Incognitus, I had never heard of it till now, but since you asked, I think I found it and want to show you how I did it:

Advanced Search opens the page below:

The reason I selected Search Titles Only is I assumed from your request that the word "Siren" might be part of the thread title...otherwise I'd end up getting every discussion where the word "siren" was used (eg police sirens) if I searched posts.

That page is so useful because you could fine tune your search by entering a user's name if you know who has posted in that thread or who started it (select the option). You could even select how far back (date) to search. But I didn't have to do all o' dat.

Once you click on search, you will see the thread listed. (I know I coulda just given you the link but I like to figure out how folks do stuff and assume others do too, so like to share what I know so you don't have to wait on someone else when you can just find it faster yourself.)