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explosiva9

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I have noticed that a lot of people on this site use ayurvedic hair care. I have been searching and trying to search online but I rather hear it from people who have tried it and have good/bad results.

1- what is ayurvedic hair care? What does it entail/consist of?
2- how would i go about switching to this system?
3- what are the pros/cons to using this system?
4- what has been your personal experience this method of caring for your hair? has it produced more growth, better strength/manageability?

Thank you for all of your responses.
 
Thanks for those links. I will check them out.

Can people still tell me a little about their experience using this method?

The reason I ask is because i have ALOT of breakage and after trying several of the suggestions on this forum, I am considering his to see if it can help. Or am i looking at this all wrong?
 
explosiva9 said:
I have noticed that a lot of people on this site use ayurvedic hair care. I have been searching and trying to search online but I rather hear it from people who have tried it and have good/bad results.

1- what is ayurvedic hair care? What does it entail/consist of?
2- how would i go about switching to this system?
3- what are the pros/cons to using this system?
4- what has been your personal experience this method of caring for your hair? has it produced more growth, better strength/manageability?

Thank you for all of your responses.
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I've ONLY had fantastic results w/ veda for hair and other complaints, but I'm generally an herbalist anyhow. Nobody's results will really tell you anything about your own and people's results change overtime depending on many factors. Keep this in mind.

Ayurveda is a 4,000+ year old system of Indian healthcare. The herbs commonly used for hair on this site are used both externally and internally to address a variety of complaints. The Indo-Pak people have a VERY high regard for long thick black hair, so hair care is a big deal to them, but make no mistake these same herbs have affects outside of hair care.

I don't know what else you're using on your head or if you are relaxed, but I'd advise finding an oil (premade) and starting there. Since you are having breakage, I'm not sure I'd use vedic stuff w/ Mega Tek.

If there are ANY cons for veda, it's the smell. LOL...much of this stuff will require some tolerance because the smells are NOT Western. I'm not saying it all stinks (it doesn't), it's just different to what you're used to. It MIGHT be a con if you have light hair and wish to keep it so. Indian culture prized dark hair and veda herbs all darken/keep dark hair over time. For me and others, the darkening is a huge plus.

I've used veda a very long time (like 10+ years), so obviously I feel it works positively. My advice it to look up the oils and find one that sounds like what you're seeking. All the oils are used for growth, but they have different properties and smells.
 
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Pay attention to the posts of Neroli on the threads that Platinum so kindly posted. She goes into extensive regime info, yet has a very simple approach.
 
Thanks for your response. That's the thing, i'm looking and researchin and I'm just really lost as to where i should start, what I should get, the powders, oils, bars? It's so much and I was hoping that I can be given a starting good starting point for my specific dilemma.

Thanks again
 
To be very specific, I'd try an oil. Maybe Parachute coconut (it's plain stuff, not infused w/ any herbs), Keo Karpin (Indian people seem nuts over this one), Ramthrith's Bramhi, or one of the Dabur's. Many people like the Vatika or amla of the Dabur's stuff. Hesh has a shikakai oil you might like.

http://stinastina.ecrater.com/ look here. She has almost everything you need for Veda and alot of info. She's also an LHCF member and you can PM her.

My personal fav oil is bhringraj and I use this one most often as a scalp massage (I leave it in), but I also rotate among different ones.
 
I would take the approach of assessing the condition of my hair and then finding the products or ingredients that can correct it.

Ayurveda is a natural way...of life, so you can't go wrong with this approach, BUT you have to do your homework to see how these products and ingredients will effect your hair and the properties they possess. Be careful using the powders because they can be drying to the hair.

The links above should be very helpful, and you cannot go wrong with coconut oil!

Happy hair growing (HHG)
 
Question- If Ayurveda is such a great thing, seems cheap, and helps in all aspects of the hair, why isn't it as big a thing as let's say Moegro or Megatek/Ovation? Is it because it's "old news"?
 
explosiva9 said:
Question- If Ayurveda is such a great thing, seems cheap, and helps in all aspects of the hair, why isn't it as big a thing as let's say Moegro or Megatek/Ovation? Is it because it's "old news"?
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I'd say there are a few reasons. For starters, it's NOT an approach that takes easily to "bandwagons". Only the oils are usually premade and they don't promise 20 inches in 2 days. Veda is about commitment and research and frankly there are many lazy people about on this site. They want quick and easy solutions that yield results very fast. Veda doesn't promise this and will rarely give it.

Another reason is actually finding the products in conventional stores. Many people aren't close to an Indian or halal market and are too lazy or don't know to search online to find specific info and products. Veda also requires being open minded towards another culture and their way of approaching things. Americans are sometimes unwilling to open themselves up beyond a certain point and unwilling to trust things that aren't prettily packaged, easy, and "official".

Moegrow is an EXCELLENT formula and it's based in Native American/European herbal medicine...in short, the ingredients are easier to obtain for most North Americans and the results are more accessible to us because this stuff is native to us. That "moegrow" formula is one that's quite ancient, it's just been posted and is easier to try becuase the herbs are easier to get. Frankly, the work and research has already been done and all this requires is putting it together. Veda doesn't lend itself to easy formulas either.

Last but not least, patience. People lack it. You have to do research, try out the products on yourself, and invest time. Even tho many of the raw ingredients are cheap, you have to invest of yourself. In short, it's a holistic approach rather than a quick fix.

I must say that Native American/European herbalism is wonderful. I'm not in the least putting it down and use it as much and more than Veda. People come here and ask for herbal "reviews" as if the results are going to be the same and there is some standard like w/ a conventional Western product. In truth, it ain't happening. All the "testimonials" you get on herbals are nothing more than THEIR experience, YOUR story is YOUR experiences.

Bandwagons come and go, but Veda has lasted 4,000 years!
 
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I thought about that. Veda seems to take a lot of time and is more of a commitment and doesn't yield "quick" results. But I have always loved the way Indian women hair looks, so thick and healthy. So I am willing to try it because I would rather have short amazing hair than long messed up hair. My hair is breaking a lot and no matter what I do or what I try, nothing seems to really work at stopping the breakage. Plus I'm trying to find natural/healthier ways of taking care of my hair and myself.

So I thank you Jamaraa for all of your input and advice.
 
Explosiva, I'm glad you found what I said to be helpful and I hope you get the breakage under control. Any of the oils recommended will help stop the breakage. If you still comb your hair, I suggest getting "bone" or "horn" comb (same thing, search both words) from Ebay or the BSS. They are unseamed and very wide toothed, so that will help.

LOL...the bandwagons are OK and work for some, but I believe in going to a source known for do something better than everybody else. In this case, the Indians are known and admired for long beautiful black hair. One thing about them is no matter where in the world they are, this is true. Why that's so, IMHO, is because they take ayurveda wherever they go.

If breakage is such a big problem for you, have you thought about doing a henna or cassia treatment? Do you use a protein? You might want to try this for an immediate result. You can use either approach along w/ Veda.
 
Honestly, I never even knew that henna was used for the hair and I don't even know what cassia is. I will research it though. But your insight and opinions have been of great assistance to me. Thank you for taking the time to guide me through cause it's so much info and it seemed so overwhelming.

I don't mind the shedding, but its the breakage that is driving me insane. It has subsided some with everything but I am still getting a lot and I just want it to stop.

I'm definitely going to take your advice.
 
Henna is a colorant but it also conditions and strengthens the hair. From the 1st use, it should really cut back on shedding and breakage if you use it properly. It's used for both properties. Cassia on dark hair will be neutral leaving no visible color, but henna will impart red to varying degrees. Of the two, henna conditions most, but cassia leaves no color. If you don't want the redness of henna, you can use cassia or henna mixed w/ indigo to maintain you natural color or even darken it.

Here's a good place for your henna and cassia research, but don't buy from them. Too expensive, IMHO. www.hennaforhair.com

LOL...you are so new to this and I don't want to overwhelm you. If I am, let me know.
 
You are not overwhelming me at all! I am so grateful to you for taking me under your wing!!:grin:

I have another question? WHat is the difference in using the powders and using the shampoo bars?

If I am asking too many questions, please let me know. I just want to avoid any and all mishaps...

Thanks Again
 
Explosiva9, I'm so glad you started this thread. I've been seriously taking notes for about 2 weeks now and was contemplating making my first purchase tomorrow! I learned a lot and am now sure I am making the right choice.

Jamaraa, you were infinitely helpful and since you've been at it for 10+ years, I know I can trust what you're telling us. Thanks for sharing, the information is greatly appreciated.
 
I have glanced at the other threads but the last two days I have been looking into an alternative to my current regimen. I'm trying to use more natural products which is why I am drawn to this.

Question- Am I going to walk around smelling a lil funky?
 
You're lucky I'm watching the Olympics tonite and I have time :?). LOL Fire away!

Well the shampoo bars offer the ease of use and they're quite cheap. (LOL..if you noticed, I try to keep $$$ in mind) Many are quite good. To date, I've only used a few, but they're fine. I plan to rotate them w/ my shampoos. Since I shampoo twice, I just use the bar 1st and let the foam sit on my scalp for a mo, then I rinse it and use a conventional Western shampoo that I KNOW is great for moisture. So I kill two birds! Since I use the vedic oils as a basic hairdressing, I don't "pre poo". LOL...the oil's already there.

The powders are more time consuming and probably more costly in the long run. You have to boil you water and let them steep and use them when they're cool. That's assuming you're using powders to wash. I use them to make oil infusions, but not on my hair directly as some do for washing. How do I use the bar...LOL, I just wet my hair and the bar and wipe it across until I get the foam I want.

The brand of bars that are most popular: for shikakai Swastik is very popular and easy to get...there's also Shrimati brand (I have both). I have an aritha bar by Nimal. So far I like all the bars. Since they are so cheap (say $1.99 per bar) you can buy a few kinds and experiment.

Funniest thing, I had some Hesh's Shikakai Shampoo that I'd forgotten all about, a whole bottle. I pulled it out and used it. Fantastic stuff! (Don't mind me w/ all these products, I'm a real PJ and I rotate stuff. Your life doesn't have to be this complicated! LOL)

Between bars, powders, and liquid shampoos....I find they are just different forms and all tend to be good. Bars are your cheapest way (Indian mart or Ebay), but if you prefer a liquid shampoo, those are good too. You can try and experiment w/ powders, but make a "tea" 1st. LOL...I can't imagine rinsing out the actual powder.
 
Oh, So you do not use the powders? And you alternate between the Veda and regular western poo's and con's?

So I guess its really trial and error? I'm so nervous about trying it because I'm almost bsl and I don't want to have to chop off all of my hair, lol.

Ok, I will keep researching and make up my mind soon. Wow, this is a lot though.
 
Yes, I use Western poos and conditioners as do many Indians, esp. here in the States. I use the powders to infuse oils and then use the oils to care or my hair. You can go all the way and use ONLY veda or do combos of Western ad Veda, you just have to learn about what the ingredients do. You also have to consider the moisture balance. Rarely is vedic stuff drying, but I always do things which combat drying no matter what I use.

You'd be hard pressed to find Indians who ONLY use powders, at least in the West.

It IS trial and error because what works for others might not work for you. I seriously doubt you'd have to cut your hair if something goes wrong...these aren't harsh chemicals, but if you're concerned about it don't use it until or if you feel uncomfortable. Hair usually gets damaged by taking a drastic approach. The women complaining about breakage on here are usually the ones using too much of something and/or jumping on bandwagons. If 1 oz works they use 4 oz hoping for 4x results. It doesn't work this way.
 
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ok. thats good to know cause i have A LOT of hair products and I would hate to have to get rid of it. I will use a combo until my stuff runs out and then decide if I want to go veda all the way.

Thanks for all of your help.
 
The one thing you find lacking in Indian/halal store and places that sell Vedic hair stuff is CONDITIONERS. I have no idea why, but on the selves there's like 2-3 shampoos a few bars and 20,0000000 oils. LOL Even on sites that sell every brand and every product known to man, conditioners are somewhat rare. My theory is that they know the clients use the Western stuff (Suave seems a big fav, tho I saw Sunsilk in the Indian section) either doctored w/ the powders or neat, but use the oils for maintenance, darkening powers, and growth. You can doctor the Western stuff w/ your oils or powders.

That's why I suggest the oils as the place to start, they're very versatile.
 
Jamaraa, you are a wealth of information. I am now as I type sitting with henna on my hair am planning to do the indigo thing afterwards. Thanks for all your help.
 
Yes, I think it's worth a try, but you have to decide for YOURSELF. Is there something that you specifically want to know about that hasn't been covered or you have a question about?

Have you considered the MoeGrow challenge? You might feel more comfortable w/ that one.
 
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I think that everything has been pretty much covered. I ordered EVERYTHING but plan on starting out slow. I'm just really scared.

I tried the moegro but it really didn't do anything and I think my scalp is allergic because ever since I started using it, my scalp has been itching. And not getting the growth as I did with the MT. So I'm scratching the moegro.

I'm looking for overall health as well as growth and I'm trying to use more natural products in my hair and skin. But I'm starting out with the rinses instead of paste. I really don't want to struggle with bits left in my hair. So I got the powders and all the oils.

I'm just hoping its the last thing I will have to try and get the results that I want because I have done everything, before and after joining LHCF.

Thanks for all of your help!
 
LOL- I can't even pronounce half of the stuff.

Powders- Brahmi, Alma, Shikakai, Hibiscus Flower

Oils-brahmi/alma,vatika,mahabringaraj, bhringraj

That's all for now.
 
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