Any Fermodyl Users ??

[Blackbird77]

I thought this product was on the hit list of possible cancer-causing hair products a few months ago? I saw it on another hair board with other products that contain placenta (not saying this one does, IDK). I'll post it when I find it. I don't know what proof they have but I'd like to know.

ETA: I found it. Here it is:

Lifestyles Report...Hair scare
by Debbie Norrell

At least two months ago WPXI contacted me to do an interview about
ingredients in hair care products used by African-Americans possibly
leading to breast cancer. I was selected because I am a 15-year breast
cancer survivor. I agreed to do the interview. However at the end of the
taping I didn't know anything more about the study than before the
cameras started rolling.

Recently WAMO news anchor and New Pittsburgh Courier freelance writer
Allegra Battle did a story on this same subject and it was a feature on
the May 9, 5 p.m. KDKA news. But at the end of these stories we still
did not have a list of the products.

Battle gave me the list that didn't make her feature during a recent
visit I made to the WAMO studio's promoting the Pittsburgh Race for the
Cure.

So many of my friends have seen the stories on television or read about
this issue in the paper and they want to know which products to be
concerned about.

However I wanted to give you more so I went to the Internet and looked
for articles from the Center for Environmental Oncology and found one
titled: Why Healthy People Get Cancer: Center Examines Environmental
Suspects (update spring 2005).

The article stated, one of immediate research priorities of the new
center is the puzzling phenomenon of breast cancer in African-Americans
under the age of 40, w ho have nearly twice as much breast cancer as do
white women.

The center will work with Silent Spring Institute, a Massachusetts based
cancer institute, to identify suspect contaminants and ingredients in
hair care products and other personal products regularly used by
African-American young women and their mothers.

More recently, attention has turned to estrogenic compounds in hair care
products used by Black women as a possible explanation for higher cancer
rates in this population.

I've started to carry copies of the list in my purse but we're going to
share it with you right here. The list simply says: The following is a
list of products that have previously been found to contain hormones:

1. Placenta Shampoo
2. Queen Helene Placenta cream hair conditioner
3. Placenta revitalizing shampoo
4. Perm Repair with placenta
5. Proline Perm Repair with placenta
6. Hormone hair food Jojoba oil,
7. Triple action super grow,
8. Supreme Vita-Gro
9. Luster's Sur Glo Hormone
10. B & B Super Gro
11. Lekair Natural Super Glo
12. Lekair Hormone hair treatment with vitamin E
13. Isoplus Hormone hair treatment with Quinine
14. Fermodyl with Placenta hair conditioner
15. Supreme Vita-Gro with allantoin and estrogen plus TEA-COCO
16 Hask Placenta Hair conditioner
17. Nu Skin body smoother
18. Nu Skin Enhancer

The majority of these products contain placental extract, placenta,
hormones or estrogen. As early as 1983 Dr. Devra Davis (epidemiologist
and director of the Center for Environmental oncology, part of the
University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute) and co-researcher Leon
Bradlow advanced the theory that xenoestrogens, synthet ic estrogen
imitators, were a possible cause of breast cancer. Davis also says,
"most cases of breast cancer are not born, but made and the more
hormones a woman is exposed to in her lifetime, the greater her risk of
breast cancer."

We need to be more cautious of the products that we use on our hair and our bodies and demand that more information about our health is shared.

Ladies and gentlemen beware.



Maybe it's this particular Fermodyl with the placenta that's the problem?

 

[HoneyDew]

Thanks HoneyDew, I picked up 2 packs of the 619 -- Love that buy one get one free.

So Dew you like the 619 better than the 619 for relaxed hair .... I bet there's more moisture. Then you follow with a creamy and a leave in. I'm shopping around for a good leave-in detangler I'm sure there's some posts with good ideas on here somewhere..

Thanks for sharing all that good info, and the next time I was, I'll report back with my results! Oh, and I do remember they have a cumlative effect on the hair, gets better with each use.

Yes the 619 is WAY more moisturizing than the 619 extra strength. The 619 extra has protein in in, though. 233 has protein in it, as well. If I has to choose between 619 extra and 233, I would choose 233 because it seem to be more moisturizing, as well.

07 is pretty good, too.

I actually use the 619 just to help with detangling. It really makes it easier for me to apply my creamy leave in.

 

[HoneyDew]

I thought this product was on the hit list of possible cancer-causing hair products a few months ago? I saw it on another hair board with other products that contain placenta (not saying this one does, IDK). I'll post it when I find it. I don't know what proof they have but I'd like to know.

ETA: I found it. Here it is:

Lifestyles Report...Hair scare
by Debbie Norrell

At least two months ago WPXI contacted me to do an interview about
ingredients in hair care products used by African-Americans possibly
leading to breast cancer. I was selected because I am a 15-year breast
cancer survivor. I agreed to do the interview. However at the end of the
taping I didn't know anything more about the study than before the
cameras started rolling.

Recently WAMO news anchor and New Pittsburgh Courier freelance writer
Allegra Battle did a story on this same subject and it was a feature on
the May 9, 5 p.m. KDKA news. But at the end of these stories we still
did not have a list of the products.

Battle gave me the list that didn't make her feature during a recent
visit I made to the WAMO studio's promoting the Pittsburgh Race for the
Cure.

So many of my friends have seen the stories on television or read about
this issue in the paper and they want to know which products to be
concerned about.

However I wanted to give you more so I went to the Internet and looked
for articles from the Center for Environmental Oncology and found one
titled: Why Healthy People Get Cancer: Center Examines Environmental
Suspects (update spring 2005).

The article stated, one of immediate research priorities of the new
center is the puzzling phenomenon of breast cancer in African-Americans
under the age of 40, w ho have nearly twice as much breast cancer as do
white women.

The center will work with Silent Spring Institute, a Massachusetts based
cancer institute, to identify suspect contaminants and ingredients in
hair care products and other personal products regularly used by
African-American young women and their mothers.

More recently, attention has turned to estrogenic compounds in hair care
products used by Black women as a possible explanation for higher cancer
rates in this population.

I've started to carry copies of the list in my purse but we're going to
share it with you right here. The list simply says: The following is a
list of products that have previously been found to contain hormones:

1. Placenta Shampoo
2. Queen Helene Placenta cream hair conditioner
3. Placenta revitalizing shampoo
4. Perm Repair with placenta
5. Proline Perm Repair with placenta
6. Hormone hair food Jojoba oil,
7. Triple action super grow,
8. Supreme Vita-Gro
9. Luster's Sur Glo Hormone
10. B & B Super Gro
11. Lekair Natural Super Glo
12. Lekair Hormone hair treatment with vitamin E
13. Isoplus Hormone hair treatment with Quinine
14. Fermodyl with Placenta hair conditioner
15. Supreme Vita-Gro with allantoin and estrogen plus TEA-COCO
16 Hask Placenta Hair conditioner
17. Nu Skin body smoother
18. Nu Skin Enhancer

The majority of these products contain placental extract, placenta,
hormones or estrogen. As early as 1983 Dr. Devra Davis (epidemiologist
and director of the Center for Environmental oncology, part of the
University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute) and co-researcher Leon
Bradlow advanced the theory that xenoestrogens, synthet ic estrogen
imitators, were a possible cause of breast cancer. Davis also says,
"most cases of breast cancer are not born, but made and the more
hormones a woman is exposed to in her lifetime, the greater her risk of
breast cancer."

We need to be more cautious of the products that we use on our hair and our bodies and demand that more information about our health is shared.

Ladies and gentlemen beware.



Maybe it's this particular Fermodyl with the placenta that's the problem?

I think that was a rinse off conditioner that was discontinued a long time ago. I never see it on the products list on the Roux website. I am at work now and don't have the ingredients to list, but none of the leave-ins have placenta.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

The leave in product that I am using does not have placenta, although it is a part of the same line. I will keep an eye out on the other products and thank for the information!

Janet

I thought this product was on the hit list of possible cancer-causing hair products a few months ago? I saw it on another hair board with other products that contain placenta (not saying this one does, IDK). I'll post it when I find it. I don't know what proof they have but I'd like to know.

ETA: I found it. Here it is:

Lifestyles Report...Hair scare
by Debbie Norrell

At least two months ago WPXI contacted me to do an interview about
ingredients in hair care products used by African-Americans possibly
leading to breast cancer. I was selected because I am a 15-year breast
cancer survivor. I agreed to do the interview. However at the end of the
taping I didn't know anything more about the study than before the
cameras started rolling.

Recently WAMO news anchor and New Pittsburgh Courier freelance writer
Allegra Battle did a story on this same subject and it was a feature on
the May 9, 5 p.m. KDKA news. But at the end of these stories we still
did not have a list of the products.

Battle gave me the list that didn't make her feature during a recent
visit I made to the WAMO studio's promoting the Pittsburgh Race for the
Cure.

So many of my friends have seen the stories on television or read about
this issue in the paper and they want to know which products to be
concerned about.

However I wanted to give you more so I went to the Internet and looked
for articles from the Center for Environmental Oncology and found one
titled: Why Healthy People Get Cancer: Center Examines Environmental
Suspects (update spring 2005).

The article stated, one of immediate research priorities of the new
center is the puzzling phenomenon of breast cancer in African-Americans
under the age of 40, w ho have nearly twice as much breast cancer as do
white women.

The center will work with Silent Spring Institute, a Massachusetts based
cancer institute, to identify suspect contaminants and ingredients in
hair care products and other personal products regularly used by
African-American young women and their mothers.

More recently, attention has turned to estrogenic compounds in hair care
products used by Black women as a possible explanation for higher cancer
rates in this population.

I've started to carry copies of the list in my purse but we're going to
share it with you right here. The list simply says: The following is a
list of products that have previously been found to contain hormones:

1. Placenta Shampoo
2. Queen Helene Placenta cream hair conditioner
3. Placenta revitalizing shampoo
4. Perm Repair with placenta
5. Proline Perm Repair with placenta
6. Hormone hair food Jojoba oil,
7. Triple action super grow,
8. Supreme Vita-Gro
9. Luster's Sur Glo Hormone
10. B & B Super Gro
11. Lekair Natural Super Glo
12. Lekair Hormone hair treatment with vitamin E
13. Isoplus Hormone hair treatment with Quinine
14. Fermodyl with Placenta hair conditioner
15. Supreme Vita-Gro with allantoin and estrogen plus TEA-COCO
16 Hask Placenta Hair conditioner
17. Nu Skin body smoother
18. Nu Skin Enhancer

The majority of these products contain placental extract, placenta,
hormones or estrogen. As early as 1983 Dr. Devra Davis (epidemiologist
and director of the Center for Environmental oncology, part of the
University of Pittsburgh Cancer Institute) and co-researcher Leon
Bradlow advanced the theory that xenoestrogens, synthet ic estrogen
imitators, were a possible cause of breast cancer. Davis also says,
"most cases of breast cancer are not born, but made and the more
hormones a woman is exposed to in her lifetime, the greater her risk of
breast cancer."

We need to be more cautious of the products that we use on our hair and our bodies and demand that more information about our health is shared.

Ladies and gentlemen beware.



Maybe it's this particular Fermodyl with the placenta that's the problem?

 

[LovelyLionessa]

I picked up some of the 619 extra strength today at Sally's, loved the buy one get one free sale. I got the last 2 packages too.

This past week my hair has been really acting up by being brittle, I hope this stuff helps. I plan on using a vial after my wash tonight.

 

[HoneyDew]

I picked up some of the 619 extra strength today at Sally's, loved the buy one get one free sale. I got the last 2 packages too.

This past week my hair has been really acting up by being brittle, I hope this stuff helps. I plan on using a vial after my wash tonight.

You should really try the 619 if you want moisture. I have found that the 619-extra strength just does not compare in the moisture department.

Let us know how is worked out!

 

[LovelyLionessa]

You should really try the 619 if you want moisture. I have found that the 619-extra strength just does not compare in the moisture department.

Let us know how is worked out!

I see what you mean as far as moisture goes. I am in the process of airdrying and my hair does feel a little different with the extra protein in it, a little drier yet stronger. So I made sure to compensate with additional moisturizing leave-ins. There was so much liquid in that vial, I felt like I could have used less, but I went ahead and used the whole vial. I put my hair in a braidout for the night, we'll see how my hair feels in the a.m. Thanks, Honeydew for the rec.

 

[divadoll237]

I use the fermodyl 233 for double processed hair and the 619 for dry hair.
I had to pay 8.00 for 1 tube to be applied at the salon. I now do my own hair; thanks to LHCF. Fermodyl is on sale this month @sally's buy 1 get one free. Hope this helps someone.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I use the fermodyl 233 for double processed hair and the 619 for dry hair.
I had to pay 8.00 for 1 tube to be applied at the salon. I now do my own hair; thanks to LHCF. Fermodyl is on sale this month @sally's buy 1 get one free. Hope this helps someone.

Girl, I've been going around to the different Sally's cleaning them out!! I remember when they used to charge $10.00 for a treatment at my old salons!! rip offs! You are right thank goodness for LHCF!

 

[AtlantaJJ]

You should really try the 619 if you want moisture. I have found that the 619-extra strength just does not compare in the moisture department.

Let us know how is worked out!

Yeah, What HoneyDew said!

 

[scorpian]

Fermodyl used to be a staple for me for years.It was my only leave in cond at one time and my hair was very healthy.I had forgotten all about it.I used it at home and I'd take it with me to the salon for the hairdresser to apply. Thanks for the reminder ladies!!I'm gonna pick some up today.

 

[Proudpiscean]

Fermodyl is some good stuff......I use to use it after every relaxer! I think I used the 619 extra strength and it does a great job at reducing breakage. I may have to purchase some 619 now!

 

[LovelyLionessa]

I wonder if I should exchange my 619 extra strength for the 619 for coarse curly hair? Everyone is raving about that one. Plus my hair has never been a fan of too much protein. What to do?

 

[AKA-Tude]

I remember this product!

It used to be the bomb-digity!

It made my hair strong.

They still sell this stuff? I know I won't be able to get it here.

Honeydew, you are ALWAYS on the case! I love ya!!!

 

[HoneyDew]

I remember this product!

It used to be the bomb-digity!

It made my hair strong.

They still sell this stuff? I know I won't be able to get it here.

Honeydew, you are ALWAYS on the case! I love ya!!!

No problem, girl. Anyway, when it comes to one of my beloved staples I have to speak up!

I wonder if I should exchange my 619 extra strength for the 619 for coarse curly hair? Everyone is raving about that one. Plus my hair has never been a fan of too much protein. What to do?

I wouldn't trade it in. The 619 extra strength is good to mix with other leave-ins after touchups or just when you do need some protein. It's just that since I use it regularly, moisture from the 619 is more welcome. Or if you bought 2 packs, just trade one of them in.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I wonder if I should exchange my 619 extra strength for the 619 for coarse curly hair? Everyone is raving about that one. Plus my hair has never been a fan of too much protein. What to do?

I say get the 619 for coarse curly hair, it's a big difference. I'm taking the 619 extra strength back to exchange myself.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

I remember this product!

It used to be the bomb-digity!

It made my hair strong.

They still sell this stuff? I know I won't be able to get it here.

Honeydew, you are ALWAYS on the case! I love ya!!!

I LOVE your siggy picture!! Do you have Sally's Beauty Supply in your area? They are having a sale, buy one get one free, 3 packs.

 

[AtlantaJJ]

No problem, girl. Anyway, when it comes to one of my beloved staples I have to speak up!




I wouldn't trade it in. The 619 extra strength is good to mix with other leave-ins after touchups or just when you do need some protein. It's just that since I use it regularly, moisture from the 619 is more welcome. Or if you bought 2 packs, just trade one of them in.

That's a good point Honey Dew, just add it to another leave in!! See, ya'll are makin me so smart!! LOL

 

[LovelyLionessa]

Thanks Honeydew and AtlantaJJ for the advice! I'm not sure what I'll decide to do. We'll see... :scratchch

 

[metalkitty]

Hey ladies! I was wondering if you guys knew which ones would be best for promoting elasticity? I'm definately getting the 619 but I don't know if I want to try a different formula too?

 

[HoneyDew]

Hey ladies! I was wondering if you guys knew which ones would be best for promoting elasticity? I'm definately getting the 619 but I don't know if I want to try a different formula too?

619 has really helped me with that. Actually that is really why I continue to use it. I notice that my hair is more elastic after. I did a test on my hair before and after applying. I guess the moisture helps with that.

I need to go read Sistaslick's posts again on moisture/protein.

 

[Namilani]

I've been doing so good with my pj-ism, buuuuuuuuttttt... How much is it at Sally's? My girlfriend said her new stylist recommended it for her damaged hair (she one of those white girls with fried, visibly dry/damaged hair), so of course I told her I'd heard about on here (she used to work beside me and would see me get on-line, lol) and I bet it was good! Now, I wanna test it out! Too, my momma used it my hair back when I messed it up when I started self-styling as a kid (too early, I might add)!

 

[Namilani]

Nobody knows how much it was?

 

[HoneyDew]

Nobody knows how much it was?

At Sally's 3 applications is about $7. It can be a bit expensive. Last month they were buy one pack get one free so I stocked up. Otherwise I order them by the box from metrobeauty.com.

 

[Namilani]

Thanks! I've gotta go by Sally's tomorrow, anyway. This can't hurt to have for emergencies !

 

[HoneyDew]

Thanks! I've gotta go by Sally's tomorrow, anyway. This can't hurt to have for emergencies !

Very True. I like having the 233 or 619 extra strength around for emergencies that require some protein. I use the 619 with every shampoo.

 

[HoneyDew]

Thanks! I've gotta go by Sally's tomorrow, anyway. This can't hurt to have for emergencies !

OT - I love the picture you have in your siggie. your daughter looks like your mom.

 

[Wildchild453]

I just bought some of the 619 today, 3 for $ 5.99

 

[tricie]

I have used this off and on for years, but never really watched what was going on with my hair. I always used the 233, but perhaps I should try the 619? I have 2 vials of 233, and will try the 619 next; thanks, Honeydew!

Oh, and by the way, the vials are now plastic and you can snap them off with ease; I used to worry about cutting myself when those vials were glass!

 

[HoneyDew]

I have used this off and on for years, but never really watched what was going on with my hair. I always used the 233, but perhaps I should try the 619? I have 2 vials of 233, and will try the 619 next; thanks, Honeydew!

Oh, and by the way, the vials are now plastic and you can snap them off with ease; I used to worry about cutting myself when those vials were glass!

I love this product! I like the 233, as well. It has protein so I use those after touchups. It is not as moisturizing as 619, IMO, but good after a touchup. The 619 gives me slip and detangles so I can out in my creamy leave in with ease.

I know there are other liquid leave ins that may be just as good, but these have really worked well for me.