A New Henna Thread

[JC-Junkie]

Good Luck Evo-ny ! Do report back

 

[kxlot79]

Good luck on this latest application!

Curiously, did you detangle and section before applying the Lush henna? I know Lush adds emollients like cocoa butter to their henna for a smoother application, but I've got a huge stash to use up before I can try their brand.

Also, did you allow your hair to harden with the henna on before attempting to rinse it out?

After a bad experience with LUSH's henna, I decided to try henna again. LUSH's caca noire was a nightmare to rinse out, my hair matted and dreaded as soon as the water hit it. Even though I was careful and used a litre of conditioner to get it all out, I lost a lot of hair that night and it was a pretty bad setback.

I picked up my Jamila henna yesterday and it feels a LOT different! I've had it on overnight and I'm just about to go rinse it out. Wish me luck!

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[mshoneyfly]

I henna regularly but I always mix with lemon juice and conditioner (tresemme naturals or shea moisture dc). I get great color every time! I usually add hibiscus powder and sometimes coco powder to get that dark burgundy look. I also add oil to the mix and it rinses nicely. Then I use suave to cowash it all out. This way I can use as much as I want cuz its cheap!

It really fills in the holes and cracks in the hair shaft so my hair is smooth, moist and strong. I would never do it without conditioner! Last week I mixed it with coconut milk too :loovve!:

Im thinking of doing my protein treatment a few days before henna next time since it seals the hair shaft. Its a temporary treatment though.

 

[Evo-ny]

Good Luck Evo-ny ! Do report back

OMG, it was SUCH a huge difference! It took a few washes, but it was nothing like my first henna experience. Plus my bathroom doesn't look like a poo tornado tore through it! If it was like this the first time, I would've been a henna head for 2 years already!

Good luck on this latest application!

Curiously, did you detangle and section before applying the Lush henna? I know Lush adds emollients like cocoa butter to their henna for a smoother application, but I've got a huge stash to use up before I can try their brand.

Also, did you allow your hair to harden with the henna on before attempting to rinse it out?

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Yep, I had combed through each section before putting in the henna, so I don't know what went wrong. It never dried out, had my head all wrapped up, and I only left it in for about 4 hours. I didn't leave it in overnight or sleep with it on. Still trying to figure out why it was such a disaster for me when everyone else had no problems whatsoever. I thought that it would've been better with all the extras they put in, maybe there's something in there that my hair didn't like.

Time to indigo! Hopefully this goes well, too!

 

[kxlot79]

I've been using henna for about 18 months. My first month, I used it once a week. My second month, I used it every two weeks. My third month and since I use it once a month.
Honestly, the combo of my hair type and products and styling habits haven't allowed me to see any "wearing" of my henna treatments. I will say my hair really likes henna. I have such pretty mahogany colored hair now. And the applications are so easy now I can do them in my sleep.
From my understanding of henna, depending on the brand and lawsone % and duration of application, these factors contribute to the intensity/duration of the treatment.
The vast majority of henna I've used has a lawsone content of at least 3%, is BAQ and I follow the directions for application. So that probably contributes to my treatments being so uniform.
I've read that depending on your hair, mixture, and application a henna treatment can last 6-8 weeks.
Some people experience curl loosening, which makes them space out their treatments or change their formulations. I haven't had such issues though, and doing it the first weekend of every month is just easier for me than remembering every 6,7, or 8 weeks.
As far as thickness, the main way I've seen this is in the dramatic decrease in manual manipulation breakage for my hair. But I've found henna treatments to be similar to protein treatments in that you have to follow up with a really good moisturizer. Otherwise your hair might seem hard or brittle and could cancel out the strengthening benefits.
HTH!
Be sure to update how it goes!!

Thank you again kxlot79
So with this coating it lasts a while right ? Helping thickness ? I crave thickness I remember when I henna'ered frequently some years ago I did get increase in thickness but I don't remember how long it lasted for.

I'm excited to do my next henna treatment too !

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[kxlot79]

WOW.
IDK what could've happened either. I've never heard of such a thing. Well, luckily you didn't let that discourage you from trying again.

Yep, I had combed through each section before putting in the henna, so I don't know what went wrong. It never dried out, had my head all wrapped up, and I only left it in for about 4 hours. I didn't leave it in overnight or sleep with it on. Still trying to figure out why it was such a disaster for me when everyone else had no problems whatsoever. I thought that it would've been better with all the extras they put in, maybe there's something in there that my hair didn't like.

Time to indigo! Hopefully this goes well, too!

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[Evo-ny]

Indigo was a bit messier, but went well! It didn't dye my greys though, they're still brassy orange from the henna. That's okay by me, they stand out a lot less now!

So my hair went from 1b to 1, I love how shiny it is! Definitely going to do this again in 2 weeks, then monthly after that. I'm so glad it worked this time!

 

[HanaKuroi]

Indigo was a bit messier, but went well! It didn't dye my greys though, they're still brassy orange from the henna. That's okay by me, they stand out a lot less now!

So my hair went from 1b to 1, I love how shiny it is! Definitely going to do this again in 2 weeks, then monthly after that. I'm so glad it worked this time!

Did u use regular indigo or organic?

Regular is supposed to cover better.

I am glad you had a great experience with henna!

I have heard that lush henna gives poor results.

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[mshoneyfly]

Indigo was a bit messier, but went well! It didn't dye my greys though, they're still brassy orange from the henna. That's okay by me, they stand out a lot less now!

So my hair went from 1b to 1, I love how shiny it is! Definitely going to do this again in 2 weeks, then monthly after that. I'm so glad it worked this time!

Evo-ny
After the henna oxidizes, your hair will darken a bit more.

 

[Evo-ny]

Did u use regular indigo or organic?

Regular is supposed to cover better.

I am glad you had a great existence with henna!

I have heard that lush henna gives poor results.

I can't see any mentions on my IPhone. PM me if it is a must see. Allons y

I think it's just regular indigo, I got it from hennasooq. My hair did feel dry, but not overly so. I expected it to be worse seeing as I put about 1/4 cup of lemon juice in my henna mixture. I did a moisture DC after the indigo and will baggy for a day or so after moisturizing and sealing.

I don't have a lot of greys, so maybe they did get dyed and the orange ones are just parts I missed. I'm not concerned, there's probably 20 or so greys on my head so it doesn't stand out. My hair looks a lot healthier being blue-black, not to mention it feels stronger too. My regular hair colour looks like dry or heat damaged black hair, indigo made it so shiny! Can't wait to see if it'll change over the next few days!

My hair is also very protein sensitive, so I feel that it's the best strengthening treatment for me! Everything else I've tried makes my hair hard and brittle. I can't rave about it enough! If only henna-ing was a LITTLE less messy (or I didn't have to worry about clean up!), it'd be perfect!

 

[DarkJoy]

Glad you had better results!

Yeah, IDK what this Lush henna is all about. It seems to turn quite a few people off to actual BAQ henna, which is unequaled in effectiveness for hair IMO.

Most of the Lush products in general are full of chemicals, extreme fragrances and other no-nos for MY hair and skin. I'm never surprised when I hear people having bad results from them, sadly... Love the idea tho...

 

[Evo-ny]

I'm so ridiculously happy with it that I am THIS close to doing it again this weekend! Can you overdo henna?

 

[HanaKuroi]

I'm so ridiculously happy with it that I am THIS close to doing it again this weekend! Can you overdo henna?

Nope!

I used to henna weekly! I love it. I feel like I am at a spa.

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[kxlot79]

I would only say "overdoing" it is possible if you notice changes to your curl pattern you don't like...

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[kxlot79]

**double post!**
As a matter of fact, I think I'm going to henna 1 week early because this thread has me hankering for a hair treat.

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[JC-Junkie]

kxlot79 I've just finished mixing my henna I get all excited too ! Lol.
This time I mixed about 115g of henna with 50g of cassia, 100mls of aloe Vera juice, and a can of coconut milk, oh and some rhubarb juice which apparently will enhance the red tones although the last time I used it I didn't see anything lool. And i added some bamboo silica capsules to the mix as well, for the strengthening properties of silica. Tomorrow when I'm about to use it i will add 4 tbsp of honey. I feel this mix will be very moisturising and wonderful for my hair
Well I hope so anyway !

 

[Evo-ny]

I would only say "overdoing" it is possible if you notice changes to your curl pattern you don't like...

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I read about the potential loosening of curls. Seeing as I'm transitioning, I'd totally welcome it! In fact, I'm hoping it does to make the transition easier. My hair type is like a super fine, dense, 4abcdxyz and it's scary! Hopefully the henna can tame it until I learn how to properly manage it.

 

[DarkJoy]

I read about the potential loosening of curls. Seeing as I'm transitioning, I'd totally welcome it! In fact, I'm hoping it does to make the transition easier. My hair type is like a super fine, dense, 4abcdxyz and it's scary! Hopefully the henna can tame it until I learn how to properly manage it.

I've gone from like a fine 4zzz to a 4a in certain spots. It's not an even change or fast but does happen over time. I've had some strand thickening between henna and protein reconstructors.

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[JC-Junkie]

DarkJoy did you say strand thickening ??? I need me some strand thickening ! Tell me more !
How long before you noticed your hair getting thicker ? And how many treatments ? How long did the thickness last for ?
I read about the henna saturation point whereby your hair is completely hennafied is this when you experienced the strand thickening or was it sooner ?
I have quite dense but super fine hair, so I'm more interested in thickness than length (although I love both )
My new growth is coming in thick with JBCO and Mega Tek but I want to be able to thicken the hair shaft from root to tip also
I love henna ing though ! It's great !

 

[kxlot79]

JC-Junkie
So how did it go?
I was going to wait til Friday or Saturday to henna my hair. I ended up doing a clarifying wash today though and thought, "What the heck? It's already clean, detangled, and damp. Might as well..."
Gratefully, I mix a couple batches at a time and keep them in 16 oz old sour cream containers. I get excellent dye release, preservation, and can henna at the drop of a hat.
Now it's just a matter of how long I'll keep it on. Hmmmm...

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[JC-Junkie]

kxlot79 I haven't done it yet I was gonna do it today but I have to go to an event so I won't be able to.
Can I put it in the freezer and then when I come back take it out ready for use tomorrow ?
I keep my henna for no less than 12 hours but the last time I kept it in for 24 hours ! My hair wasn't even super dry it was just not as moisturised
What's in your mix if you don't mind me asking ?

 

[DarkJoy]

@DarkJoy did you say strand thickening ??? I need me some strand thickening ! Tell me more !
How long before you noticed your hair getting thicker ? And how many treatments ? How long did the thickness last for ?
I read about the henna saturation point whereby your hair is completely hennafied is this when you experienced the strand thickening or was it sooner ?
I have quite dense but super fine hair, so I'm more interested in thickness than length (although I love both )
My new growth is coming in thick with JBCO and Mega Tek but I want to be able to thicken the hair shaft from root to tip also
I love henna ing though ! It's great !

LOL JC-Junkie!!

Some of the henna benefits (less breakage, shedding, and thickness) seemed to wear off a the 2 week point for me. More strand fattening was noticed after a cpl months of doing it every other week. Much better thickness now. I think you really gotta build it up on the strands to notice more 'permanent' effects.

I am natural so don't hit the hard protein after. I was using Aphogee 2 min. My hair didn't like the cones after a while so now using Vatika Egg Protein Mask immediately afterwards.

When in a rush and don't wanna do the 6 hour nonsense, I will sit under a heat cap with the henna on for like 15 mins an hour and be done in 3 hours. It works!

 

[JC-Junkie]

kxlot79 so I did it and I believe this will be my new mix coconut milk and aloe Vera are so much more moisturising for my hair it was lovely and get this, I was able to thoroughly finger deranged whilst the mix was in my hair ! It was so smooth in my hair and glided through too I kept itin for24 hours again too. I can also start to see some colour i my hair co ing trough also which is exciting !

DarkJoy oh so after a few months that's when more permanent results can be see ? How long when you sa permanent ? Like months ? That would be great because that's much more long lasting. I'm also a natural so I don't do a hardcore protein treatment after either, so I was thinking to use my AO GPB condish afterwards, but I moisturised with my Shea moisture curl enhancing because my hair was actually quite soft afterwards. I think I will co wash tomorrow with my AO GPB
I wrapped my hair with a thick scarf and then added a head wrap as well to trap the heat and it worked !
My hair feels thicker though and has more volume and weight too, so it hangs a little more. Curls are more defined also, and hair feels stronger. I hope these results are long lasting ! I crave thickness, I keep saying that but I really do !

 

[kxlot79]

aloe vera and coconut. Hmm... That's an interesting mix. Do you warm either or both liquids first?
I've heard/read that warm (or hot but not scalding) liquid releases the best dye so I've only used tea or water as a liquid. My mix this weekend had shea butter and few other things a la homemade Lush.
I forgot to put on gloves halfway through application and now have oompa loompa orange hands. Oh well. co-workers said it looked like I had applied self-tanner. LOL. I had to do a doubletake at my dark skin for those comments.

kxlot79 so I did it and I believe this will be my new mix coconut milk and aloe Vera are so much more moisturising for my hair it was lovely and get this, I was able to thoroughly finger deranged whilst the mix was in my hair ! It was so smooth in my hair and glided through too I kept itin for24 hours again too. I can also start to see some colour i my hair co ing trough also which is exciting !

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[Natty_Virgo]

I just finished a henna indigo mix on my edges. It sat on my hair for 3.5 hrs, and my greys are gone yay. I Co wash daily so I hope it last at least 3 weeks.

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[DarkJoy]

@DarkJoy oh so after a few months that's when more permanent results can be see ? How long when you sa permanent ? Like months ? That would be great because that's much more long lasting.

Yea, I think a couple months, but remember, I henna'd a LOT in the beginning. I say permanent cuz for 2 reasons. First the color. I got a lot of grey hairs. They WERE gray and even though I didn't henna for 2 months I only have gray roots. That's with washing, clarifying and chelating. The color don't come out. And it's been a year since I started. Second is looser coil. Some areas are loose enough I can run my fingers through ! That didn't change in my two months either.

You just have to keep using it. There's no limit on how often. You can henna everyday if you had the time.

Have fun and good luck on your henna journey!

 

[JC-Junkie]

kxlot79 I didn't add any other liquid other than the aloe Vera, coconut milk and honey and got excellent dye release i didnt warm any of thembut i think next time i willwarm the aloe vera and the honey, thank you for that tip the soles of my feet are still bright orange I got some henna on the floor and stepped in it by accident I read that the aloe Vera juice is acidic enough to release the dye without being drying to the hair. Maybe I could use mango butter or something like that to my mix that sounds lovely !

DarkJoy thank you at the moment I'm henna ing once a week but I get the urge to henna more, because I love the process in general it's very therapeutic to me I think I may hena again in about two days. Your definitely right, it's a build up over time from continuous usage and at the moment I have a little more time so I will take the opportunity to do it a but more often
Good luck on your henna and hair journey also !

 

[DarkJoy]

JC-Junkie you got me about to indigo again. Lol. Taking out my extra henna from the freezer in a cpl days to defrost for a weekend application.

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[HanaKuroi]

JC-Junkie you got me about to indigo again. Lol. Taking out my extra henna from the freezer in a cpl days to defrost for a weekend application.

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You should defrost it at work.

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[DarkJoy]

You should defrost it at work.

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Lol! Lol! You know I mix it when I buy baq near my job and need to henna.that night! Matter of fact, I still m and s at my desk when needed. Shoot, a Lil bottled water on the afro and my homemade butter blend in the desk for emergencies.

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