shyekiera
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i ordered on the 11th of March, hasn't shipped yet..
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i ordered on the 11th of March, hasn't shipped yet..
Transformer
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I received mine within 4 business days---I ordered on a weekend.
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Someone hold my hand... I've decided to try and cover the now numerous grey hairs with henna that a friend kindly bought me. She said to use it on unwashed hair. Is that right and why?
ETA: The brand is Black Vasma Henna by TopOp. Anyone heard of this one? Can you tell I'm a lil nervous??
ETA: The brand is Black Vasma Henna by TopOp. Anyone heard of this one? Can you tell I'm a lil nervous??
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Cattypus1
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Someone hold my hand... I've decided to try and cover the now numerous grey hairs with henna that a friend kindly bought me. She said to use it on unwashed hair. Is that right and why?
ETA: The brand is Black Vasma Henna by TopOp. Anyone heard of this one? Can you tell I'm a lil nervous??
I'm relatively new to henna...I've been using it for a little over 6 months. I don't use Vasma but I've read a little bit about it and what I've read it's not really henna but indigo. Henna is only red. I buy baq henna and mix with indigo to get more brown than red. I use it on unwashed hair and love the results. I haven't gotten my color exactly right yet but I love the way it covers the gray and adds thickness to my strands. Good luck with your first henna experience.
Cattypus1
All loced up...
I have been using Moroccan Henna, I've never used Jamila although lots of folks on LHCF who do. It has a quick dye release (4-5 hours versus overnight preparation) and rinses very cleanly. I didn't want henna red so I ordered indigo to tone it down to brown. The henna red would result in a red-orange halo because that's where my gray is -did that, it was not pretty LOL! I have used 100gm of henna mixed with 50gm once and I plan to use 25gm of indigo the next time to see if I can start getting closer to my natural brown.
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yuhlovevybz
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Does anyone know of a henndigo mixture that can get hair blue black or crows feather?
Natty_Virgo
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Just ordered from Henna Sooq. I hope it comes this week so I can get rid of these grey hairs! Until then I will try to use a black tea rinse.
Pompous Blue
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yuhlovevybz
Do not do a henndigo. Do the 2-step process.
1) Clarify hair (I use rhassoul clay or bentonite clay to clarify)
2) Mix henna and water, only. Apply henna. Let stay on for 4 - 6 hours. Rinse thoroughly.
3) Mix and apply indigo. Let stay on for 3 - 4 hours.
4) Deep Condition
5) Wash hair after 3 days (so that the color has had time to settle)
I've done this process on 5 different (never henna'ed) heads. Works everytime - jet black hair. Never seen the blue in the hair, though.
And if you've ever seen indigo stain a white, plastic container, it leaves a blue stain.
Natty_Virgo
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This was two post up from me...how the hell did I miss this!? I just ordered from there. I hope you get your issues resolved soon.
shyekiera
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This was two post up from me...how the hell did I miss this!? I just ordered from there. I hope you get your issues resolved soon.
It wouldn't even been a issue if 1. I haven't heard how quickly others receive their product... and 2. If my inquiries were being answered
I've ordered henna on several occasions from henna sooq without a problem and I'm all the way on the west coast. It may have something to do with when they drop off packages to the postal. I think they only drop off 2x a week. Have you tried to contact Khadija? They are pretty good with responding to emails.
naturalgyrl5199
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My co-worker from India just gave me some her henna. It's in a green bag called Neha Rachhni Mehandi. It's from India and I assume its BAQ because it says "best for hands"
Anyhoo she instructed me to let soak in water 4-5 hrs or overnight. Which is better? I am only doing henna for its strengthening powers and not necessarily color. Does it even matter?
After that she says mix to a paste(thicker than pancake batter).... But I think I may make it a little smoother based on ya'lls observations with respect to rinsing out.
Then she says apply on freshly washed hair (should not be oily)...let sit 2-3 hrs (should not be totally dry when it's time to rinse.
Wash/Rinse out with cold or lukewarm water thoroughly then once hair is dry, add oils, shampoo or condition.
Should I add anything to this regimen?
Anyhoo she instructed me to let soak in water 4-5 hrs or overnight. Which is better? I am only doing henna for its strengthening powers and not necessarily color. Does it even matter?
After that she says mix to a paste(thicker than pancake batter).... But I think I may make it a little smoother based on ya'lls observations with respect to rinsing out.
Then she says apply on freshly washed hair (should not be oily)...let sit 2-3 hrs (should not be totally dry when it's time to rinse.
Wash/Rinse out with cold or lukewarm water thoroughly then once hair is dry, add oils, shampoo or condition.
Should I add anything to this regimen?
Aggie
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If you are using henna for conditioning purposes, you would not need to wait for the dye in the henna to release so therefore, waiting overnight after mixing the henna is not necessary but it doesn't hurt either.
The difference is in how long you leave the henna on your hair anyway. Even if the dye releases and you only want to condition your hair, then I would recomend that you only leave the henna on your hair for about 30 to no more than 60 minutes only. Now if you want a little color, then by all means leave the henna on your hair for 2-3 hours.
I would also recommend that you saran wrap your hair after applying the henna snugly to avoid the henna becoming hard and dry like clay, especially if you want an easier removal/rinse-out process. You can also use a conditioning cap for this purpose if you choose to but I find that it doesn't do as good a job as the saran wrap.
When you condition your hair post the henna treatment, make sure to use a moisturizing conditioner, preferably a deep one for maybe an hour or more if you prefer, to soften the hair and make it nice and supple.
HTH!
naturalgyrl5199
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mshoneyfly
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I put my oils and deep conditioner in the mix to make it easier to wash out and less drying. I also use a cheapie conditioner to get any residue out after rinsing
danniegirl
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If you don't want to color you might want to try a henna gloss
its basically 50% henna mixed with 50% conditioner this makes it easier to mix and easier to rinse out I got my recipe from curly nikky
http://www.curlynikki.com/2010/05/curlynikkis-henna-gloss-recipe.html
Henna Gloss Purpose: A henna gloss is used when you want subtle color change along with deep conditioning. It's easier to apply because of the wonderful slip provided by the conditioner, much easier to rinse, and leaves your hair smooth and soft, as opposed to crackily and dry after a straight or full strength henna treatment.
Yesterday I called it a mild henna, but I'd like to retract that. I started thinking... it would be considered a mild henna if I used less henna and more conditioner. My mix was 50/50... so I guess I did more of a Conditioning Henna Treatment! Remember that the property in henna that dyes the hair red, is the same one that conditions, strengthens, defizzes, and smooths. Mixing in 1 or 2 tablespoons of henna (into a cup or two of conditioner) will give you very little color change, but you'll also miss out on the full effects of henna's conditioning powers... so you'll have to make that call yourself. This would be a great option for two types of folks:
1. Those of you that want to see what the hype is about, without making the color commitment. Just be sure to strand test, and to modify my recipe. You should mix 1-2 tablespoons of henna directly into your conditioner (not allowing for dye release) and only leave-in for 20-30 minutes. Henna is strong, so ALWAYS strand test... the red will creep up on ya quick!
2. Faithful henna'ers that want to experience soft, smooth results upon rinsing. It's truly amazing! My 50/50 mix left me with similar dye release, color uptake (I was surprised), strengthening, and smoothing. I'm impressed.
What You'll Need:
- BAQ Henna (at least 100g)
- A light, protein free conditioner-- Many users across the web like the Generic Matrix Biolage Balm from Sallys.
My Henna Gloss Instructions:
- Mix your henna as you would for a regular, full strength treatment. I added 100g of Jamila henna to 1.5 cups (I never measure... I just get it to the consistency of cake batter) of warm green tea. I usually use 2 or 3 tea bags.
- I sealed off the container and let it sit for a few hours... only because I was feeling lazy. In the future, I will probably go right into the next step.
- Mix in 1 cup of conditioner. I used Tresemme Naturals conditioner. Next time though, I will probably buy the Generic Biolage Balm conditioner because it is much thicker. Either that, or use less liquid to mix my henna. It was a little too runny for my liking.
- Apply to damp and detangled hair in sections. Then don a plastic baggy, cotton balls or tissue rolled up near your ears to catch drippies, and a scarf to cover the ugly mess, lol.
- Leave in for the desired amount of time. Remember, the shorter (15-30 minutes), the less dye uptake... so less red, but also less conditioning. I left mine in overnight, which is why I'm referring to it as a Conditioning Henna Treatment. I got the full benefits of henna with the added bonus of a moisturizing DT!
- Dunk your head in the tub to wash away most of the mix. Hop in the shower and rinse away the rest using a cheapy, slippery conditioner. It rinses very easily, and you could probably skip the tub dunking
- Apply a Deep Treatment
- Rinse, and style as usual. I did my typical Twist-n-Curl and flat twisted the roots. This new modification (the flat twisting) has done AMAZING things! My waves/curls are much more consistent.
1. Modify my recipe and leave it in for less time if you want only a subtle color change. If you want the full benefits of color and henna's conditioning powers, leave in for at least 4 hours (I leave mine in overnight).
2. Use a cheapy conditioner free of protein, and preferably free of cones.
3. If you're trying my mix, use the least amount of tea possible... too much and you'll have an annoying runny mess.
Later Gators,
Nik
naturalgyrl5199
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danniegirl.
That sounds good too. However I already mixed 150g with water and it made a lot, I set it overnight and was all set to use it, but some issues came up this morning and I haven't used it yet.....
If I use half of it with condish, can I freeze the other half and use it within 2 weeks? Like @ Aggie said, I was not going to keep it on for a long time. Maybe 90 min tops.
That sounds good too. However I already mixed 150g with water and it made a lot, I set it overnight and was all set to use it, but some issues came up this morning and I haven't used it yet.....
If I use half of it with condish, can I freeze the other half and use it within 2 weeks? Like @ Aggie said, I was not going to keep it on for a long time. Maybe 90 min tops.
danniegirl
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yes you can freeze it I have some frozen henna sitting out right now
Im trying to become a henna head so I have been really going hard doing henna every week for the last month
I pre made 400 grams a few weeks ago then I separated it for 5 applications 3 full hennas and 2 henna glosses I have a gloss sitting out right now last week I used a full one and I loved how smooth it was as compared to the week before when I used a full one freshly made.
oh for my gloss I just separate a small amount I will add the conditioner when it thaws
oh just an fyi In stead of putting it in a container I put them in a zip lock bag wrapped the bags in aluminum foil then in saran wrap then put all of them in a larger freezer bag
so last week I was able to thaw out a full henna bag and just clip the end of the bag and directly apply it to my hair like icing to a cake it was really mess free.
this will be my first time doing a gloss during the day and I plan on leaving it on until im done with the laundry so that might be about two hours or so.
GOOD LUCK HOPE IT WORKS OUT WELL
let me know how it comes out
Aggie
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JC-Junkie
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Hello everyone !
I have a quick question I just want to be sure about. I have done henna treatments before but I am interested in trying out Cassia Obovata. There are different views on whether you can chemically dye your hair after you have done a chemical treatment, like if you treated your hair with body art quality henna then it should be fine. I just wanted to know whether this applies for Cassia Obovata.
I want to try it but I would also like to dye my hair chemical in the future.
Also, I read tthat although Cassia Obovata has similar benefits to henna, it is not as long lasting as henna. I would just like to know if Cassia Obovata is just as good as henna but without the red colour or henna is the best for increase in thickness and strength ?
TIA and HHG !
I have a quick question I just want to be sure about. I have done henna treatments before but I am interested in trying out Cassia Obovata. There are different views on whether you can chemically dye your hair after you have done a chemical treatment, like if you treated your hair with body art quality henna then it should be fine. I just wanted to know whether this applies for Cassia Obovata.
I want to try it but I would also like to dye my hair chemical in the future.
Also, I read tthat although Cassia Obovata has similar benefits to henna, it is not as long lasting as henna. I would just like to know if Cassia Obovata is just as good as henna but without the red colour or henna is the best for increase in thickness and strength ?
TIA and HHG !
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Rozlewis
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Cattypus1, I just recently starting using henna 2 months ago. I applied another henna treatment last night and washed it out early this morning. It was not as bad o messy as I thought. I use the BAQ henna from Henna Sooq. I actually do the henna gloss treatment for the conditioning and coloring benefits. I am loving the results and the way my hair feels after a treatment. So far my experience has been very positive. I am mastering the art of application with very little mess. I plan to do this once a month. Good luck to you.
kxlot79
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Re: Dying over henna
I've not done this personally but I've witnessed two anecdotal reactions:
1) the lady used "fake" henna, henna with adulterants added, primarily metallic salts to intensify the henna color. In this case, commercial dye reacted very badly to the metallic salts and caused her hair to appear to "melt," and I think that's where this myth of violent henna/dye reactions came from.
2) the girl used BAQ quality henna and several days later used a commercial dye. She got uneven color deposit. The science is: henna forms a semipermeable barrier which wears over time. So there were spaces along the hair shaft the henna had worn off, worn down and in those spaces, more commercial dye could deposit. She eventually got a uniform color so I assume this is correctable. Double or triple processing is generally thought to be something to avoid so... ***Kanye Shrug***
Re: Cassia Obovata
The deposit is clear or yellowish so color change is negligible unless you're blonde. It is known to be a less durable and weaker strengthening treatment than henna, but I think it'd be safe to assume you can get similar patchy color with a dye if it isn't able to wear uniformly off.
People who use cassia tend to use it with greater frequency to compensate for its weakness.
Hope this helps!
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I've not done this personally but I've witnessed two anecdotal reactions:
1) the lady used "fake" henna, henna with adulterants added, primarily metallic salts to intensify the henna color. In this case, commercial dye reacted very badly to the metallic salts and caused her hair to appear to "melt," and I think that's where this myth of violent henna/dye reactions came from.
2) the girl used BAQ quality henna and several days later used a commercial dye. She got uneven color deposit. The science is: henna forms a semipermeable barrier which wears over time. So there were spaces along the hair shaft the henna had worn off, worn down and in those spaces, more commercial dye could deposit. She eventually got a uniform color so I assume this is correctable. Double or triple processing is generally thought to be something to avoid so... ***Kanye Shrug***
Re: Cassia Obovata
The deposit is clear or yellowish so color change is negligible unless you're blonde. It is known to be a less durable and weaker strengthening treatment than henna, but I think it'd be safe to assume you can get similar patchy color with a dye if it isn't able to wear uniformly off.
People who use cassia tend to use it with greater frequency to compensate for its weakness.
Hope this helps!
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JC-Junkie
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Thank you kxlot79 !
I revisited henna again after i had to stop because i became super busy with studies and stuff and I am in love all over again ! But I am still kinda confused about how it works
Does it penetrate the hair shaft or just coat it ? I've read so many different views But either way it's lovely =) Next time I'll mix it with aloe vera juice so it's more moisturising, but still get a good release of dye 
I revisited henna again after i had to stop because i became super busy with studies and stuff and I am in love all over again ! But I am still kinda confused about how it works
Does it penetrate the hair shaft or just coat it ? I've read so many different views
But either way it's lovely =) Next time I'll mix it with aloe vera juice so it's more moisturising, but still get a good release of dye
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kxlot79
Kitchen Mixtress
It's just a coating. It doesn't penetrate the hair shaft.
I've used coconut hot oil treatments after henna to re-soften/moisturize though with great effect, since coconut oil CAN penetrate the hair shaft! 2 weeks before my monthly henna treatment. And you've made me look forward to it even more!
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I've used coconut hot oil treatments after henna to re-soften/moisturize though with great effect, since coconut oil CAN penetrate the hair shaft! 2 weeks before my monthly henna treatment. And you've made me look forward to it even more!
Thank you kxlot79 !
I revisited henna again after i had to stop because i became super busy with studies and stuff and I am in love all over again ! But I am still kinda confused about how it works
Does it penetrate the hair shaft or just coat it ? I've read so many different views
via LHCF App
JC-Junkie
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Evo-ny
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After a bad experience with LUSH's henna, I decided to try henna again. LUSH's caca noire was a nightmare to rinse out, my hair matted and dreaded as soon as the water hit it. Even though I was careful and used a litre of conditioner to get it all out, I lost a lot of hair that night and it was a pretty bad setback. 
I picked up my Jamila henna yesterday and it feels a LOT different! I've had it on overnight and I'm just about to go rinse it out. Wish me luck!
I picked up my Jamila henna yesterday and it feels a LOT different! I've had it on overnight and I'm just about to go rinse it out. Wish me luck!
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