2018 Curlyproverbz-inspired Regimen Challenge

New CurlyProverbz video: Farida's Top 5 Deep Conditioners

The first one she discusses is interesting! Inexpensive, containing ayurvedic ingredients . . . but it contains mineral oil, she says. I'm surprised that wasn't a deal breaker for her, given the gist of some of her previous comments about mineral oil. That DC must be good on her hair, LOL.

What would you say are YOUR top 5 DCs?

 
Sadly, I don't think I even have 5 that can go in a "Top 5" list, and I've tried quite a few DCs!
  1. For moisture: Shea Moisture Manuka Honey Masque
  2. For softening / pre-detangling: Shea Moisture High Porosity Moisture Seal Masque
  3. For balancing protein and moisture: Mielle Organics Babassu Oil and Mint DC (great slip, too!)
  4. For strength (but not a protein treatment): Bask & Bloom Brahmi Root Masque
That's all I got!

I still want to try:
  1. the Miche/Lush INDULGE Deep Conditioner one day: https://michebeauty.com/products/lush-deep-conditioner

    Ingredients:
    Distilled Water, Aloe Barbadensis (Aloe) Leaf Juice, Behentrimonium Methosulfate and Cetearyl Alcohol, Ricinus Communis (Castor) Seed Oil, Orbignya Oleifera (Babassu) Seed Oil, Olea Europaea (Olive) Fruit Oil, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Sodium Lactate, Vegetable Glycerin, Raw Honey, Propanediol, Dehydroacetic Acid and Benzyl Alcohol, Fragrance, Panthenol

  2. the CurlyDew (also known as EarthTones Naturals) Curl Condition Intensive Hydrating Deep Treatment (on sale, though . . . on sale): http://www.curlydew.com/curl-condition-intensive-hydrating-deep-treatment/

    Ingredients:
    Purified Water, Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice, Theobroma Cacao (Cocoa) Seed Butter, Behentrimonium methosulfate (and) Cetyl alcohol (and) Butylene glycol, Orbygnia oleifera (Babassu) seed oil, Cocos nucifera (Coconut) Oil, Hydroxypropyltrimonium Honey, Astrocaryum tucuma Butter, Theobroma grandiflorum (Cupuacu) Butter, Cetearyl alcohol, Cocodimonium hydroxypropyl hydrolyzed rice protein, Hydrolyzed jojoba protein, Guar Hydroxypropyltrimonium Chloride, Panthenol, Fragrance, Propylene Glycol (and) Diazolidinyl Urea (and) Iodopropynyl Butylcarbamate

  3. and this DIY fenugreek DC (which could easily be augmented with additional ayurvedic powders)

    Ingredients:
    olive oil, banana, avocado, honey, greek yogurt, aloe Vera juice, mayo, and fenugreek powder


 
New CurlyProverbz video: Farida's Top 5 Deep Conditioners

The first one she discusses is interesting! Inexpensive, containing ayurvedic ingredients . . . but it contains mineral oil, she says. I'm surprised that wasn't a deal breaker for her, given the gist of some of her previous comments about mineral oil. That DC must be good on her hair, LOL.

What would you say are YOUR top 5 DCs?

Top 5 DCs:
Macadamia Professional Nourishing Moisture- great protein moisture balance for me
Silicon Mix (I no longer purchase this due to DR shenanigans and tomfoolishness)
Phyto Repair Masque (Protein)- I can't remember the actual name, I just know Phyto made it. It was a medium protein.
Jason's Biotin Conditioner- not a DC, just a regular RO, but when used as a DC the results are amazing. It has silicone, so I don't use it often anymore.
Henna Gloss with silicon free Maui Moisture Bamboo- hair was super soft, yet strong

I still have my Black Friday products that I haven't tried yet:
Bask&Bloom Brahmi Masque
Obia Babassu Masque
 
I don't have any favorite DC's. Something lacks from all the ones I like, and I decided just yesterday that liking is no longer enough...I need to be in love. Either the size is too small to match the price, lack of slip or high shipping fees. All of these are reasons I'm heading to my bat cave lab to create a few of my own. :bookworm:

I want to create something that I can use to deep condition, detangle, leave in and use as a moisturizer....an all in one.
 
New CurlyProverbz video: Farida's Top 5 Deep Conditioners

The first one she discusses is interesting! Inexpensive, containing ayurvedic ingredients . . . but it contains mineral oil, she says. I'm surprised that wasn't a deal breaker for her, given the gist of some of her previous comments about mineral oil. That DC must be good on her hair, LOL.

What would you say are YOUR top 5 DCs?


I gat nothin'
I can't even attempt this list because like @ElevatedEnergy, I need to make my own hair care products that I love and I know what's in them. As a result, I know I'm giving my hair the best I can.

I like deep conditioners that are pre-made but the problem I am having with them now is that they are not consistently impressive to me. That's a problem because I don't want to continue to fork out hundreds of dollars for sub-par products at best, hence the desire to make some of my own home made stuff right from my own kitchen.

At least this way, I don't have to wait forever while my products move off someone else's kitchen table to mine. That is why I love ayurveda hair care so much. It's easy and not a whole lot off fuss to mix up a batch for my hair. Plus the results are wonderful to boot. So for now, it's going to be ayurveda hair care for me.

Maybe eventually I'll move into something else a little more complex. We shall see :look:.
 
I learned a LOT from watching this lady's regimen and listening to her commentary. I hope to incorporate some of her retention-causing moves. :yep:

A few take-aways for me:
  • She pre-detangles (separates, finger detangles, etc. so that when it's time to detangle with her wide tooth comb, it's much, much less damaging and much less time consuming).
  • She washes in twists.
  • She said that in detangling, her goal is NOT tangle-free hair. That would be fighting her hair's nature. She accepts that her hair will always have tangles. Wow. :yep: Super helpful.
  • She said that she moisturizes every other day DESPITE THE FACT THAT HER HAIR IS NOT YET DRY-FEELING. This because she doesn't want to wait until her hair feels dry to moisturize! Wow! Makes so much sense to me when I hear it aloud, but I had been moisturizing ONCE my hair felt dry. My reasoning: "Oh, my hair still feels moisturized? No need for more moisture, then." But her logic of simply moisturizing every other day -- regardless -- so as to never have to chase after moisture, makes so. much. sense.
  • She bands to dry the hair, THEN twists. Interesting.
  • She untwists to apply her protein treatment and then retwists, but she does NOT later untwist to apply her moisturizing DC but instead simply applies that DC on TOP of her twists. INTERESTING! Less manipulation, I guess??? My strategy will be slightly different but have the same aim: I will add Green Beauty Protein to my moisturizing DC so that I deep treat JUST ONCE. Thus, I'll go ahead and untwist and retwist for that (one) deep treatment.
 
My top 5 DCs:

1) My favorite to use with henna gloss is inexpensive - Vatika Hot Oil conditioner. It has a strong scent which counterbalances the grassy smell of ayurvedic powders.

2) Ouidad Melt Down mask - my choice for travel. This mask eliminates the need for heat & plastic caps as it heats up on its own. My hair loves it.

3) The Mane Choice Green tea & carrot conditioner - long time staple. It softens and works well with heat.

4) Megatek - My strong protein choice. Another long time staple.

5) Crece Pelo- another inexpensive, moisturizing conditioner
 
My new jars came in, so I will make the CP whipped shea this weekend after finals are over. My CP oil has finished steeping, but I'm enjoying Keravada's 1010 oil.

How do you like it? Are you using it on scalp only or all over to seal? I got the Keravada Super Ego Oil but was really tempted by the 1010. My goal is increased thickness and health.
 
I plan to do 3 CP wash days, then a "use anything I'd like" wash day, then 3 CP wash days, and so on.

My Hairveda stuff came in!!! I now get to test an HV wash day!

And, oh: Re-twist twist out is undefined. Issokay :smile: : I'll tweak the butter cream. I really like it, otherwise.

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Can't wait to read your review. DIY gets a bit much to keep up for me. but my goal is to use products with as much ayurvedic goodness as possible. I'm *hoping* by doing this incorporating ayurveda every step in my routine will help drastically increase my growth and thickness
 
Can't wait to read your review. DIY gets a bit much to keep up for me. but my goal is to use products with as much ayurvedic goodness as possible. I'm *hoping* by doing this incorporating ayurveda every step in my routine will help drastically increase my growth and thickness

The HairVeda Red Tea line is not heavy on ayurvedic ingredients. The serum contains some, but that's about it. Argan oil is a major feature of the line.

As far as reviews, I had one of the BEST wash days ever with these products. I really hope it wasn't a fluke. The HairVeda Red Tea Heavy Cream is one of the best things I've ever put on my strands.

I gave my initial impression of each of the HairVeda products I used last wash day here: https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/december-2017-hits-misses.828079/page-4#post-24429215
 
The HairVeda Red Tea line is not heavy on ayurvedic ingredients. The serum contains some, but that's about it. Argan oil is a major feature of the line.

As far as reviews, I had one of the BEST wash days ever with these products. I really hope it wasn't a fluke. The HairVeda Red Tea Heavy Cream is one of the best things I've ever put on my strands.

I gave my initial impression of each of the HairVeda products I used last wash day here: https://longhaircareforum.com/threads/december-2017-hits-misses.828079/page-4#post-24429215
What ayurvedic components does CP add to her shea mix?
 
What ayurvedic components does CP add to her shea mix?

:wavey:

Hey, lady. :kiss:

Ingredients
As of December 2017, it is difficult for me to tell from the video precisely what the amounts of each ingredient in the CurlyProverbz DIY shea buttercream recipe are. People posted all sorts of comments asking her to clarify. Some people offered their guesses.

I think the issue is that she assumes the viewer is familiar with how she makes the oil recipe she used back in the day, in the oil video dated prior to her buttercream video.

I came up with the following, and hopefully someone else can chime in.
  • 1 tablespoon of henna (natural, body art quality)
  • 1 teaspoon of amla
  • 1 teaspoon of brahmi
  • 3-4 drops of essential oil?
  • ___ amount of coconut oil ???????
  • 3-4 tablespoons of shea butter (especially during the Summer) . . . but you can “get away with” 1-2 tablespoons of shea butter in the Fall/Winter, she says.
Video
 
:wavey:

Hey, lady. :kiss:

Ingredients
As of December 2017, it is difficult for me to tell from the video precisely what the amounts of each ingredient in the CurlyProverbz DIY shea buttercream recipe are. People posted all sorts of comments asking her to clarify. Some people offered their guesses.

I think the issue is that she assumes the viewer is familiar with how she makes the oil recipe she used back in the day, in the oil video dated prior to her buttercream video.

I came up with the following, and hopefully someone else can chime in.
  • 1 tablespoon of henna (natural, body art quality)
  • 1 teaspoon of amla
  • 1 teaspoon of brahmi
  • 3-4 drops of essential oil?
  • ___ amount of coconut oil ???????
  • 3-4 tablespoons of shea butter (especially during the Summer) . . . but you can “get away with” 1-2 tablespoons of shea butter in the Fall/Winter, she says.
Video

Hi Yvette! It's great to be back to reading your intriguing posts and creative ideas! :love2:

Thank you for the response. I didn't know that her mix contains henna. Does this mean that it's to be used as a rinse out or DC then? Guess I'll have to watch the video to find out :yep:
 
Hi Yvette! It's great to be back to reading your intriguing posts and creative ideas! :love2:

Thank you for the response. I didn't know that her mix contains henna. Does this mean that it's to be used as a rinse out or DC then? Guess I'll have to watch the video to find out :yep:

So glad you're back. I owe you and @faithVA an apology: I haven't tackled my products list yet.

Farida (CurlyProverbz) leaves the buttercream in.
 
So glad you're back. I owe you and @faithVA an apology: I haven't tackled my products list yet.

Farida (CurlyProverbz) leaves the buttercream in.
Thank you and don't worry about the products dear, take your time.. But don't you happen to have any old formula Design Essentials Creme Gel? Lol. It's a pity that nobody on LHCF uses it.

Regarding the butter, I'm astonished that CP leaves it in. I'd expect the henna to stain everything it comes into contact with and that once the hair dries it may start shedding powder from the henna or even the other components. It's hard to imagine
But she is the expert..
 
Thank you and don't worry about the products dear, take your time.. But don't you happen to have any old formula Design Essentials Creme Gel? Lol. It's a pity that nobody on LHCF uses it.

Regarding the butter, I'm astonished that CP leaves it in. I'd expect the henna to stain everything it comes into contact with and that once the hair dries it may start shedding powder from the henna or even the other components. It's hard to imagine
But she is the expert..

I have something of Design Essentials that I got in a grab bag from a hair event. I forget if it's the Creme Gel or the Stretching Cream or what.

Why do you say it's a pity that no one uses it? Is this the creme gel that's working great for you?
 
I have something of Design Essentials that I got in a grab bag from a hair event. I forget if it's the Creme Gel or the Stretching Cream or what.

Why do you say it's a pity that no one uses it? Is this the creme gel that's working great for you?
Yes it was working great for my twa. It was truly defining, smelled great, mixed well with almost all leave-ins unlike regular gel, had reasonable holding power and would dry very quickly so that I could apply it in the morning before going to work and diffuse dry in 10 minutes. I had to give up my almost full jar in the airport, only to discover later that DE had changed the formula and it's now become exactly like a hair butter and not at all anything like a gel.
I say it's a pity because I could have bought/snatched some jars from ppl here on the board lol
 
How do you like it? Are you using it on scalp only or all over to seal? I got the Keravada Super Ego Oil but was really tempted by the 1010. My goal is increased thickness and health.

I like it so far. It's lighter than my CP oil, which will make you think you need more. You don't need a lot. I use it on my scalp and to seal my ends. I have noticed that when I rub the oil onto my edges, edges do not come out. My edges are very weak, so this is a plus for me.
 
Thank you and don't worry about the products dear, take your time.. But don't you happen to have any old formula Design Essentials Creme Gel? Lol. It's a pity that nobody on LHCF uses it.

Regarding the butter, I'm astonished that CP leaves it in. I'd expect the henna to stain everything it comes into contact with and that once the hair dries it may start shedding powder from the henna or even the other components. It's hard to imagine
But she is the expert..
This isn't the case if you use Cassia @Alma Petra. She did say in her video that she does not mind the color from the henna and if anyone making the mask was concerned about it staining their hair, they can use cassia instead of henna since cassia does not stain the hair but the benefits of it remains the same as henna.
 
can i be down? i've been meaning to research ayurveda awhile ago and didn't really know where to start. i spent all day doing research on ayurveda and from the results i have seen, i'm permanently sold.

1. What do you hope to gain from trialing a CurlyProverbz-based regimen?
- super duper moisturized hair/curl clumping and definition
- to finally be able to reach full bra strap length
- hair with body and elasticity
- more natural, holistic beauty/hair info

2. What products or mixes do you intend to use?

since i'm a beginner: tea rinses/spray refreshers, infused oil, cassia gloss, clay washes

3. How frequently will you cleanse your hair?
1-2x a week

4. How frequently will you apply your various products, mixes, etc?
2x a week

5. How frequently will you trim or search and destroy?
every 4 months

6. Anything else you'd like to share?
the only thing i'll say is that curlyproverbz videos are a little confusing to me. she doesn't do a good job explaining how each step fits into a routine.
 
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Thank you and don't worry about the products dear, take your time.. But don't you happen to have any old formula Design Essentials Creme Gel? Lol. It's a pity that nobody on LHCF uses it.

Regarding the butter, I'm astonished that CP leaves it in. I'd expect the henna to stain everything it comes into contact with and that once the hair dries it may start shedding powder from the henna or even the other components. It's hard to imagine
But she is the expert..

Honestly it's such a small amount in most of her leave in products that staining isn't an issue.
 
can i be down? i've been meaning to research ayurveda awhile ago and didn't really know where to start. i spent all day doing research on ayurveda and from the results i have seen, i'm permanently sold.

1. What do you hope to gain from trialing a CurlyProverbz-based regimen?
- super duper moisturized hair/curl clumping and definition
- to finally be able to reach full bra strap length
- hair with body and elasticity
- more natural, holistic beauty/hair info

2. What products or mixes do you intend to use?

since i'm a beginner: tea rinses/spray refreshers, infused oil, cassia gloss, clay washes

3. How frequently will you cleanse your hair?
1-2x a week

4. How frequently will you apply your various products, mixes, etc?
2x a week

5. How frequently will you trim or search and destroy?
every 4 months

6. Anything else you'd like to share?
the only thing i'll say is that curlyproverbz videos are a little confusing to me. she doesn't do a good job explaining how each step fits into a routine.

Of course! Welcome!

Regarding your point 6, :yep:

I've got something easy-access in the works to address it! It requires that I watch every video and take notes, so it'll be a second before I can launch/share it, but I finally got sick of watching and rewinding and jumping videos and reading through comments in search of clarity. I think it prevents people from trying her recipes/regimen. I am grateful for her and her channel still.
 
Of course! Welcome!

Regarding your point 6, :yep:

I've got something easy-access in the works to address it! It requires that I watch every video and take notes, so it'll be a second before I can launch/share it, but I finally got sick of watching and rewinding and jumping videos and reading through comments in search of clarity. I think it prevents people from trying her recipes/regimen. I am grateful for her and her channel still.
Nice! That’s so thoughtful of you. I’m actually gonna do the same thing because watching her videos and taking notes would still be quicker than reading all of the numerous, super long ayurveda threads on here even tho I’m trying to make it through as many of them as I can.
 
can i be down? i've been meaning to research ayurveda awhile ago and didn't really know where to start. i spent all day doing research on ayurveda and from the results i have seen, i'm permanently sold.

1. What do you hope to gain from trialing a CurlyProverbz-based regimen?
- super duper moisturized hair/curl clumping and definition
- to finally be able to reach full bra strap length
- hair with body and elasticity
- more natural, holistic beauty/hair info

2. What products or mixes do you intend to use?

since i'm a beginner: tea rinses/spray refreshers, infused oil, cassia gloss, clay washes

3. How frequently will you cleanse your hair?
1-2x a week

4. How frequently will you apply your various products, mixes, etc?
2x a week

5. How frequently will you trim or search and destroy?
every 4 months

6. Anything else you'd like to share?
the only thing i'll say is that curlyproverbz videos are a little confusing to me. she doesn't do a good job explaining how each step fits into a routine.


I find 6 confusing as well.
 
I'm not subscribed to CP and haven't been for a few months. I say the rest of this post with love because she has one of the sweetest spirits and dispositions on YT hands down.

I find her videos very scattered...almost like she is confused herself. The last video I did make it through left me like:

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Outside of henna, our regimens are nothing alike from what I can gather. But I remain in this thread because it's active, I like the chill flow and some of my favorite members are in here.
 
^^ I have to agree. I stopped watching her videos because I would be more confused after watching than before. :drunk: She's super rambly but never really clarifies anything that she's doing. Seems like a sweet lady but really needs to plan out her videos with concise bullet points and an overall goal/theme that her viewers take away.

I get all my Ayurveda gems from the beautiful ladies in this thread. :grouphug: Ya'll have had my hair on point for some months now. :lol:
 
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