Yall are putting to many things in your hair.

[tocktick]

Personally, I think the members who do an excessive amount (this is quite relative though, imo) to their hair are the exceptions and not the rule here. For the most part, I think people either keep it simple or use a moderate amount of products.

With that said, if someone does have a long regimen/many products, it's quite possible they reached that stage by figuring out what worked for them long ago if their hair is healthy etc. Now if it's chewed up then that's another story. Anyway, not everyone can get away with that ultra-low fuss regimen even if they really want to.

 

[producjunki]

Oh and I forgot something else, but using Megatek, Ovation, and MN (I forgot what is the full name, but correct me if I'm wrong, isn't this vaginal itch cream - think Vagisil), I'm not against what other ppl do, however isn't MT and Ovation for horses? I wouldn't use it because I could've sworn a member on here wrote a blog or post about how she was using it topically and it started making her hair shed and scalp flake! I say leave it to the horses! K.I.S.S. !

 

[Bianna125]

And that makes sense.

It just doesn't make sense to me to clarify and then use shampoo right after. The clarifying got your hair clean, why the need to shampoo again? Even if the person uses a moisturizing shampoo (which is what people say) they're still over cleaning their hair.

This is not necessarily true. I clarify with VO5 clarifying shampoo, then do one wash with Elasta QP creme shampoo because it gives AWESOME slip and aids with detangling. You're are not over cleansing your hair...it would be the same as washing with 2 lathers.

 

[Barbara]

If the subjects of the original post still have healthy hair, then what's the problem?

Maybe they feel this is the only way for their hair to grow faster, so they are excited about getting all of these popular products.

I often mix 2 or 3 shampoos OR DC's as a way to get rid of the ones that do nothing for my hair. I can't use them alone, so I mix them with the ones that work for me, till they finish and I don't buy them anymore.

I'm the same way. I'm not throwing anything out. Anything my stylist rejects will be recycled, unbeknowest to him.

I would have never thought of mixing conditioners had it not been for my stylist. He told me to buy Motions Moisture Plus conditioner, because he used it on my hair, and I really liked it. I wanted him to use it all the time, but with waist length customers constantly coming in, he runs out of items that I really like. This is why I prefer bringing in my own products, so he won't get skimpy. Then he recommend Motions CPR. It made my hair hard, so he started mixing Moisture Motions Plus with Motions CPR. It works fine now.

From time to time, I do my own hair . . . and I use things that don't work by mixing them up with other things, too. I know my stylist doesn't want to experiment with any more stuff. This board has turned me into a semi-product junkie.

I'm not saying it's a problem to mix things, just that it may not always be the best idea. Believe me, I've done the same thing in order to get rid of stuff. I have a bottle of like 5 different lotions mixed together in my shower that I use to shave with. You gotta do what you gotta do.

I feel that all those chemicals are not good for the kidneys, liver, and blood unless we clean them out twice a year--but to each its own. Most people I know don't clean their insides, and the chemicals build up and cause major health problems.

am i the only one that didnt find anything wrong with the OP?

No I understand perfectly.

 

[msa]

This is not necessarily true. I clarify with VO5 clarifying shampoo, then do one wash with Elasta QP creme shampoo because it gives AWESOME slip and aids with detangling. You're are not over cleansing your hair...it would be the same as washing with 2 lathers.

Thanks for explaining.

I think I'm seeing it more on a "molecular" (that's not the right word) level.

Clarifying shampoo is supposed to strip away everything on your hair...get it squeaky clean. At least that's my understanding. So then to do another wash right after with shampoo means you're cleaning already squeaky clean hair. I guess in my mind it's not equivalent to 2 lathers with regular shampoo because clarifying shampoo is stronger. So to me it seems like over cleaning.

But hey, when it works for you, it works for you. Like I said earlier, when I don't understand something I like to ask about it and understand why people are doing things. I don't want to miss out on anything good!

 

[babyhurr4]

I have to say that I agree with you 100%, OP, on this one. I was one of the members that you are talking about, unforntunately. I can admit that I was buying all kinds of products that was raved about by someone on any hair forum, I mean it just got ridiculous the way I was carrying on buying and using sooo many products at one time. I became overwhelmed and had to check myself! I closed out memberships from other hair care sites(mostly because I was becoming addicted) and just decided to stick to this one. I figured this was a first step for me stopping myself from hearing all kinds of raves and reviews on products and then going out to buy them. And honey, it has worked! lol.....NOw, I keep my regimen really simple, it is nothing like the madness I was doing before. I don't wash with two shampoos any more(you know, the clarifying and then following up with a moisture shampoo? yeah, I just couldn't understand why I was doing it, I mean they are both shampoos, right? lol). I shampoo my hair once every other week and co wash during the week whenever I feel the need, use 1 leave in now and deep condition my hair once a week or once every other week. I use coconut oil when needed and moisturize my hair every other day. I don't feel the need to seal with oil all of the time, so I don't. My hair has been growing out of control this summer and has gotten thicker....and I didn't even have to use all of the hundreds of products I've done wasted my money on to achieve the great results I've gotten, now! My routine is really simple now. Wash, deep condition when needed, use leave in if desire, moisturize every other day, keep ends moisturized, use oil when desire and leave the hair alone for the most part. I still have about 2-3 products that I use for each step, but that is a big jump from what I use to do, lol! And I don't pile them all on at once or mix them all together to get results. NOw, I may rotate the use of my products that I do have, but I don't dare buy any more just because something worked for so and so, and I use them alone so that they could do their job. I've had much improvement! Sorry for the long response.

 

[sparkle25]

I have a lot of products because i am trying to find something my hair likes, but i only use one thing at a time this way i can tell if it works. I dont want to have to combine a bunch of things to get something to work. I want it to work on its own and if it doesnt i wont use it any more.

 

[*fabulosity*]

Oh and I forgot something else, but using Megatek, Ovation, and MN (I forgot what is the full name, but correct me if I'm wrong, isn't this vaginal itch cream - think Vagisil), I'm not against what other ppl do, however isn't MT and Ovation for horses? I wouldn't use it because I could've sworn a member on here wrote a blog or post about how she was using it topically and it started making her hair shed and scalp flake! I say leave it to the horses! K.I.S.S. !

Ovation Cell Therapy is for Humans. People just started buying Mega Tek because it had the same ingredients and was cheaper.

People have been doing this for years .. Mane and Tail??? My mother used this on me when I was kid with waist length hair.

Pantene products made my scalp flake.. maybe they should make it for horses and I'll take the MT.. lol..

Good that is working for you.. perhaps you may want to consider a screenname change.. just put "anti" in front..

 

[Bianna125]

Thanks for explaining.

I think I'm seeing it more on a "molecular" (that's not the right word) level.

Clarifying shampoo is supposed to strip away everything on your hair...get it squeaky clean. At least that's my understanding. So then to do another wash right after with shampoo means you're cleaning already squeaky clean hair. I guess in my mind it's not equivalent to 2 lathers with regular shampoo because clarifying shampoo is stronger. So to me it seems like over cleaning.

But hey, when it works for you, it works for you. Like I said earlier, when I don't understand something I like to ask about it and understand why people are doing things. I don't want to miss out on anything good!

I should clarify my point; I wash the 2nd time with a non drying, non sulfate shampoo with moisturizing ingredients, like the original CON. It adds good stuff to the overly stripped clarified hair making it easier to apply my DC too in sections.

I find that it works wonders for my relaxed hair. It might not work for you, but dont knock it till you try it

 

[Je Ne Sais Quoi]

I'm going to be good today and say this:

Op you are taking the fun out of our hair journeys. How are we going to stick to 1 or 2 of anything around these parts?

Anyway, I've never seen a youtube or anyone here use 50-11 leave-ins at one time but I do know of people that may have 4 or 5 different leave-ins (or insert poo's or conditioners here) that they have in rotation to use at different times.

I don't think i've ever seen someone's hair that failed to thrive because they chose to use 2 different conditioners in 1 washing. I have though seen failure when folx add chemicals, heat, trims and everything else in to the mix.

Being a product junkie is good. Come to the darkside OP. You'll like it

 

[MJ]

I was a PJ for my first 4-5 years on LHCF. Now, I'm down to the bare minimum. I can't be bothered anymore after spending so many years growing my hair. I'm actually getting better results!

 

[msa]

I should clarify my point; I wash the 2nd time with a non drying, non sulfate shampoo with moisturizing ingredients, like the original CON. It adds good stuff to the overly stripped clarified hair making it easier to apply my DC too in sections.

I find that it works wonders for my relaxed hair. It might not work for you, but dont knock it till you try it

Believe me I'm not knocking it at all. I don't understand it, but I see that it works for other people and that's great.

And I definitely won't be doing it. I don't use shampoo in the first place, and I use bentonite clay to clean my hair. I don't like the feeling of stripped to the bone hair , and that's how it feels with even gentle shampoo.

 

[music-bnatural-smile]

Believe me I'm not knocking it at all. I don't understand it, but I see that it works for other people and that's great.

And I definitely won't be doing it. I don't use shampoo in the first place, and I use bentonite clay to clean my hair. I don't like the feeling of stripped to the bone hair , and that's how it feels with even gentle shampoo.

i wanna try the clay... is it expensive?
i did a poo bar and my eyes and lips were BURNING :heated: thats why i think im allergic to castor beans... raw castor oil makes my head hurt, and the chagrin valley bars have castor beans in them... im trying one more to see if it burns me again lol
I was like... screaming... SO ran in the shower to save me lol...
but my hair felt amazing

btw i love my hair after moisturizing DC but it only gets that way if I strip it, I haven't found another way yet... and i'm running outta money... to bad that chagrin bar was like fire

 

[msa]

i wanna try the clay... is it expensive?
i did a poo bar and my eyes and lips were BURNING :heated: thats why i think im allergic to castor beans... raw castor oil makes my head hurt, and the chagrin valley bars have castor beans in them... im trying one more to see if it burns me again lol
I was like... screaming... SO ran in the shower to save me lol...
but my hair felt amazing

btw i love my hair after moisturizing DC but it only gets that way if I strip it, I haven't found another way yet... and i'm running outta money... to bad that chagrin bar was like fire

You should definitely stop using the castor oil. Some people are allergic and it sounds like you are.

The bentonite clay wasn't expensive. I think it was like 6 dollars for the smaller jar (which has a lot in it). I actually like it because it clarifies so well without stripping my hair. My conditioners take so much better after using it.

Now, I don't know if it removes synthetic stuff like cones though. So if you may want to check it out first. But, after trying different shampoos, castile soap, and baking soda, I've found that bentonite is the best for me because it's the least harsh.

 

[Bianna125]

Believe me I'm not knocking it at all. I don't understand it, but I see that it works for other people and that's great.

And I definitely won't be doing it. I don't use shampoo in the first place, and I use bentonite clay to clean my hair. I don't like the feeling of stripped to the bone hair , and that's how it feels with even gentle shampoo.

I guess if you don't use shampoo anymore it makes sense that you wouldn't understand it. But I'm glad the bentonite clay is working out for you! I'm sure no one on their hair journey likes the feeling of "stripped hair"!

 

[TCatt86]

That is ok. I am not trying to start up drama.
I am just writing what I see.
I see some of peoples routiens, and it looks like a bit much to me.
Now, I do watch alot of you tube and I know some people on there put to many things in their hair. Then the next vid that they do they are talking about how they don't use such and such anymore or how they need a clarifying. Or they are showing you a whole new routine. Last one was a bit much.
I am not trying to start a fight. I am just trying to help.

Gotcha. I was just trying to see where this came from. Thanks.

 

[Traycee]

I rarely put anything directly to my scalp...But I use a keratin spray, one leave in and a oil...Thats it...I agree with you 100% on keeping it simple..Plus I like my hair to be fluffy and light..Hahahahaha

 

[Traycee]

who the heck uses 10 leave ins or oils on here?? tht would be tiring and expensive..not to mention look like a coated mess. OP where'd u get TEN from

Hahahaha...I was thinking that too...

 

[Taina]

I'm new in the natural hair world, i don't really like to mix stuff, but i actually do some mixed (for example the HE leave in and also Folicure)... but as days passes i also learn and change my routine/regimen. I'm reading stuff here and there, seeing youtube vids and also researching in the web and i want to try the stuff that works for my hair, untill i find the perfect combo/regimen my hair loves.

I just have like 18 days since the BC, and actually feeling my hair is a whole new thing for me. I know is the third time i chop my hair, but this is the first time i'm caring about it, so is all new. Sometimes it seems a lot (not what i put on at the same time but what i do every they,so i'm simplyfing my regimen. I've changed it like three times now and i think that as the days goes i'mlearning and also applying all that knowledge.

 

[BostonMaria]

I just got my Afroveda stash and put 2 conditioners on my hair at once. If I could've eaten them too I would have! Damn they smell so good! I guess I'm guilty as charged, but my hair is growing so its all good LOL

 

[tarheelgurl]

Well, I'm pretty sure I am safe from putting too many things in my hair because I'm too lazy. I run with my old reliables.

 

[ShiShiPooPoo]

Okay -- I Admit: I Have ALOT OF STUFF. Point Blank.

Pj-ism. Whatever. Call it What You Will.

But I also think I have the Common Sense not to use them all at Once.

Honestly, Who Would Pile On a Bunch Of The Same Product At the Same Time?

..........

 

[cocopuff]

I think learning to scale back and not run to get every new product you see is a part of learning how to take care of your hair. In the beginning sometimes you are just trying to find what works. Most people realize that there is no need for zillions of products once you have found what suits your hair- myself included.

 

[SmartyPants]

I've ALWAYS wondered why people clarify and then wash with shampoo afterward. I've even asked before and never got an answer. I've decided people just like to wash their hair a lot.

I do this because the clarifying shampoo I use dries the hell out of my hair. I follow up a clarifying shampoo with a moisturizing shampoo to put some moisture back in after I have gotten rid of the build-up. I just did this last night.

 

[JayAnn0513]

I dont know about using 50-11 things at one but I do use different conditioners, leave in and oil depending on my style. For example I only use Silicon Mix and Lacio Lacio for roller sets sets. My shea butter products are only for when I bun, etc. I am however a 2 shampoo girl. Every time I shampoo I use 2 different shampoos. My hair responds better to the conditioner when I use my Naked Naturals Citrus, Keratin shampoo last. I tried using it alone and I dont get the same results. I say do what works...as long as I'm seeing progress I'm going to keep doing that I am doing.

 

[msa]

I do this because the clarifying shampoo I use dries the hell out of my hair. I follow up a clarifying shampoo with a moisturizing shampoo to put some moisture back in after I have gotten rid of the build-up. I just did this last night.

I guess it doesn't make sense to me to put shampoo on already clarified (and dried out) hair since shampoo is made to remove things from the strand. I don't see how it can put moisture back in the hair. It seems like conditioner would be better for that.

Thanks for explaining though. It seems like y'all are all doing it for the same reason. This is one of those things that will just never make sense to me I think.

 

[kblc06]

Some types of hair require different attention and maybe more products: i.e. coarse vs fine hair; damaged vs healthy hair; relaxed vs natural hair etc...

Precisely! I have 5 maybe 6 DISTINCT, different hair textures on my head from a more coarse 2c/3a to fine/medium 4a. They all require tweaking when it comes to applying different products and I haven't found a THE holy grail that works best for all of them. Mixing conditioners and leave-ins (normally 2-3) gives my hair the best balance. But again, this is MY hair and the next person may not need to do what I do.

Some areas are more dryness prone and other areas are more susceptible to too much moisture . I also like to rotate out my staple products at different stages and lengths because as the ends get older and more porous...I may need a slightly heavier product at the ends that would make my roots way too oily. IMHO, it's all about doing what works for you . My hair is healthy and growing much longer and stronger and I hope that other's regimens are doing the same for them . HHG

 

[honeisos]

since when is it a badge of honor to use two products or less . how about i just rinse my hair with water and call it a day . sorry but this kind of tude is annoying . a lot of us are just plain hair crazy and like to buy products does not mean we use them all at once lol . we are on a hair site for a reason . i have been a member for such a long time and im still learning and this year alone have learned about the awesomeness of henna , honey and sulfate free poo. sure some ladies go a little nuts with products(i know i did and still do once in a while) but if you are new to growing your hair you can get caught up in all that. but then it clicks and you learn whats best for YOU .

 

[Nice & Wavy]

What does it matter as long as the hair grows? We have all decided that hair is gonna grow regardless of what you do.. it's the retention that matters in seeing length.

Plus all of those things are good for you regardless of what your goals are.. Perhaps except for the MT. But hey folks can say what they want about that... it worked for me.. so did chlorella, spirulina, working out and eating better..

I don't critique anybody... I just do me. I wish a bunch of folks would do the same instead of commenting on every darn thing.. Like I would never wear a weave or BC.. but you don't see me in every "I BC'ed" thread going why? If they like it I love it.

Good post.

Oh and I forgot something else, but using Megatek, Ovation, and MN (I forgot what is the full name, but correct me if I'm wrong, isn't this vaginal itch cream - think Vagisil), I'm not against what other ppl do, however isn't MT and Ovation for horses? I wouldn't use it because I could've sworn a member on here wrote a blog or post about how she was using it topically and it started making her hair shed and scalp flake! I say leave it to the horses! K.I.S.S. !

You must be talking about MTG which was originally created for humans, but some put it on their animals and it worked, thereby they marketed for animals which sold much better than for humans because of the smell.

I still use MegaTek and it also states that its ok to use on humans. It has never bothered me at all. It's a great protein treatment....and I have gotten some good growth from it too and my hair didn't fall out either

Ovation I have used as well, but when the small bottle I purchased ran out, then I did not re-order. It works for some others on here very well though.

I tried to keep it simple, but my hair wouldn't let me I also think that the OP is probably seeing those of us who are using Ayurveda products and thinking that we are using too much, but we aren't really....adding at least 5 or more things to the hair can be a common thing for us. Each product works to create a perfect union for our hair. I'm a true witness of this and I'm sure there are others who would agree (those of us who are using it)

I use at least 4 products on my hair everday: Dove Moisture Mist (which I can't find anymore..ugghhh), Qhemet Burdock Root Buttercream, Burnt Sugar Pomade, and a little Trader Joe's Nourish Spa. That's what works for me because as I said before, when I tried to keep it simpler, my hair was a frizzy, stinkin' mess. Who wants to walk around like that? Not me...I'm too cute to walk around like that

Anyway, the OP has a right to state how she feels...she paid her $6.50 in May, right? She isn't breaking any rules of the forum either....and, I think by now, she has got the hint of 'how' to say what she feels next time.

Oh, and as far as buying lots of products....I like spending money on things I like, so there ya go...!

 

[iNicola]

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