Yall are putting to many things in your hair.

[Lita]

I have a lot of products however,I dont use them at the same time.
Once a month I use henna. dc,leave-in,put claudies end treatment #2. On ends
Once a month protein treatment.dc,leave-in,put Njoicreations haircream on scalp & ends.
Once a month reg wash & condtioner.dc,leave in,avocado butter on ends.
Once a month herbal wash.dc,leave in,a little afroveda oil on scalp,end treament #2 ends.
That works for me. Happy Hair Growing!

 

[kblc06]

I've noticed that people who are apt to use more products (like 3-4) are in type 3 range. Do you find that your hair is much more fickle...so much so that you have to use different products or at least rotate your stash? I know my hair is- we could be cruising along great with 1 shampoo, 2 conditioners (moisture & protein), 2 leave-ins and sealant.....then BAM! It just flips the fricking script! Maybe it's just my hair that seems schizo erplexed.
The only products that seem to have stood the test of time is the old Cantu formula, Joico, Ion (DCs), Long Aid curl activator gel/Fantasia IC, honey, eggs, olive oil, coconut milk and Emergency 911. I don't know if I'll be able to say the same for Lacio Lacio, ayurveda, the new Garnier soft cream curl replacement or Roots of Nature. Shea butter and coconut oil are inconsistent

since when is it a badge of honor to use two products or less . how about i just rinse my hair with water and call it a day . sorry but this kind of tude is annoying . and smells faintly of another hair board . a lot of us are just plain hair crazy and like to buy products does not mean we use them all at once lol . we are on a hair site for a reason . i have been a member for such a long time and im still learning and this year alone have learned about the awesomeness of henna , honey and sulfate free poo. sure some ladies go a little nuts with products(i know i did and still do once in a while) but if you are new to growing your hair you can get caught up in all that. but then it clicks and you learn whats best for YOU .

Good post.

You must be talking about MTG which was originally created for humans, but some put it on their animals and it worked, thereby they marketed for animals which sold much better than for humans because of the smell.

I still use MegaTek and it also states that its ok to use on humans. It has never bothered me at all. It's a great protein treatment....and I have gotten some good growth from it too and my hair didn't fall out either

Ovation I have used as well, but when the small bottle I purchased ran out, then I did not re-order. It works for some others on here very well though.

I tried to keep it simple, but my hair wouldn't let me I also think that the OP is probably seeing those of us who are using Ayurveda products and thinking that we are using too much, but we aren't really....adding at least 5 or more things to the hair can be a common thing for us. Each product works to create a perfect union for our hair. I'm a true witness of this and I'm sure there are others who would agree (those of us who are using it)

I use at least 4 products on my hair everday: Dove Moisture Mist (which I can't find anymore..ugghhh), Qhemet Burdock Root Buttercream, Burnt Sugar Pomade, and a little Trader Joe's Nourish Spa. That's what works for me because as I said before, when I tried to keep it simpler, my hair was a frizzy, stinkin' mess. Who wants to walk around like that? Not me...I'm too cute to walk around like that

Anyway, the OP has a right to state how she feels...she paid her $6.50 in May, right? She isn't breaking any rules of the forum either....and, I think by now, she has got the hint of 'how' to say what she feels next time.

Oh, and as far as buying lots of products....I like spending money on things I like, so there ya go...!

 

[Crackers Phinn]

I agree with the OP.

There are alot of folks with a double major in mixology and doin too much.

Every month there is a hit/miss thread where the same folks have fiddy-leven new hit products a month.

It's folks perogative to do what they want with their money, hair, products, etc. At the same time, there is such a thing as The Law of Diminishing Returns. Meaning you can pile on as much product as you want but at some point, you'll go past the maximum benefit and probably do some harm (excess coating/buildup)

 

[Nice & Wavy]

I've noticed that people who are apt to use more products (like 3-4) are in type 3 range. Do you find that your hair is much more fickle...so much so that you have to use different products or at least rotate your stash? I know my hair is- we could be cruising along great with 1 shampoo, 2 conditioners (moisture & protein), 2 leave-ins and sealant.....then BAM! It just flips the fricking script! Maybe it's just my hair that seems schizo erplexed.
The only products that seem to have stood the test of time is the old Cantu formula, Joico, Ion (DCs), Long Aid curl activator gel/Fantasia IC, honey, eggs, olive oil, coconut milk and Emergency 911. I don't know if I'll be able to say the same for Lacio Lacio, ayurveda, the new Garnier soft cream curl replacement or Roots of Nature. Shea butter and coconut oil are inconsistent

That's a possibility. Yes, my hair is fickle, so that's why I LOVE AYURVEDA because that's the only stuff that keeps my hair at it's best! The extra's that I use are just a little gravy, but honestly, I can use Ayurveda without anything else and my hair would thrive....but, I love the smells of my 'extras' so that's why I use them in addition to Ayurveda.

 

[producjunki]

To Fabulosity: my screenname is fine just the way it is thankyou very much, and further more, the last time I checked, Mane N Tail was ORIGINALLY for horses and they made a formula for humans, thankyou.

 

[Nice & Wavy]

I agree with CreoleHottie, even the thread starter for making this thread! There is some truth to what your'e saying! I really can't imagine cowashing my hair EVERYDAY!

First off, I have hair just past my brastrap, and Second, I would run through loads of conditioner. Third, I have oily skin, and if I was to cowash EVERYDAY, It would not only way my hair down, but it might break my skin out, and it might clog the pores of my scalp, in return defeating the purpose of cowashing to make my hair longer if the pores of my scalp are clogged.

There are a few members here who co-wash their hair everyday and they have hip-length hair: Cichelle is one and the mixed woman with her own website (I can't think of her name right now) who also is a member here with hip-length hair.

I don't CW my hair everyday anymore because I found a different type of system to work with as oppose to wetting my hair everyday, but...I don't think that it will clog the pores of the scalp and when you rinse it out, it doesn't weigh your hair down, at least not the conditioners I've used, and it has been plenty

 

[Nice & Wavy]

To Fabulosity: my screenname is fine just the way it is thankyou very much, and further more, the last time I checked, Mane N Tail was ORIGINALLY for horses and they made a formula for humans, thankyou.

Awww...I think she was just having a little fun with you, sis. I don't think she meant any harm.

 

[Lita]

I agree with the OP.

There are alot of folks with a double major in mixology and doin too much.

Every month there is a hit/miss thread where the same folks have fiddy-leven new hit products a month.

It's folks perogative to do what they want with their money, hair, products, etc. At the same time, there is such a thing as The Law of Diminishing Returns. Meaning you can pile on as much product as you want but at some point, you'll go past the maximum benefit and probably do some harm (excess coating/buildup)

I've been in the hit thread a lot this month.In the summer i buy products for my mom & myself. (I ship the products to her in N.C) The products will last til next summer. I test on my bangs. Time to buy winter cloths an items to seal my windows from the cold.
Happy Hair Growing!

 

[Neith]

I use about 10 products.

1 co wash conditioner
2/3 deep conditioners/also watered down and used as a leave in
2 shampoos
3 Oils (evoo, coconut, castor)
Tea
1 Protein Conditioner/Treatment

By the OP's standards, I put too many things in my hair.

I don't think that I have an unreasonable amount of products. I basically do a hot oil treatment, shampoo or co wash, deep condition... then I moisturize my hair and oil my hair/scalp. Mostly wear twistouts with the occasional wash n go. In between washings I just moisturize in the morning and before bed. And put coconut oil in when needed.

My hair is doing very well

All the stories I read about people making offensive/weird comments and giving (usually lame) unwarranted advice here... in person it's annoying and the same goes for online.

Don't you hate it when someone with straight up busted hair tries to tell you what to do with yours? IRL especially I mean?

 

[kblc06]

That's a possibility. Yes, my hair is fickle, so that's why I LOVE AYURVEDA because that's the only stuff that keeps my hair at it's best! The extra's that I use are just a little gravy, but honestly, I can use Ayurveda without anything else and my hair would thrive....but, I love the smells of my 'extras' so that's why I use them in addition to Ayurveda.

I got good results when I was consistent, but it gets tiresome mixing all that stuff together. I do admit I like using Alma oil as a prepoo (for porosity) & shikakai shampoo bars (they were very gentle cleansers). I never really got into mixing the powders and such...maybe one day

 

[Nice & Wavy]

I use about 10 products.

1 co wash conditioner
2/3 deep conditioners/also watered down and used as a leave in
2 shampoos
3 Oils (evoo, coconut, castor)
Tea
1 Protein Conditioner/Treatment

By the OP's standards, I put too many things in my hair.

I don't think that I have an unreasonable amount of products. I basically do a hot oil treatment, shampoo or co wash, deep condition... then I moisturize my hair and oil my scalp. Mostly wear twistouts with the occasional wash n go.

My hair is doing very well

All the stories I read about people making offensive/weird comments and giving (usually lame) unwarranted advice here... in person it's annoying and the same goes for online.

Don't you hate it when someone with straight up busted hair tries to tell you what to do with yours? IRL especially I mean?

Someone did tell me that I should not wear my hair curly all the time because I'm going to end up with no hair cause the curls are gonna dry up and die off

I liked to pass out........laughing

 

[Nice & Wavy]

I got good results when I was consistent, but it gets tiresome mixing all that stuff together. I do admit I like using Alma oil as a prepoo (for porosity) & shikakai shampoo bars (they were very gentle cleansers). I never really got into mixing the powders and such...maybe one day

I love mixing the powders and using it in my hair! I love the way my hair feels after I use them....absolutely wonderful and its soft and smooth....just wonderful

I like the Amla oil as well as a pre-poo, but I love Vatika oil better.....my hair drinks it up!!!

 

[Neith]

Someone did tell me that I should not wear my hair curly all the time because I'm going to end up with no hair cause the curls are gonna dry up and die off

I liked to pass out........laughing

Yeah... she sounds a tad bit jealous! lol

 

[Nice & Wavy]

Yeah... she sounds a tad bit jealous! lol

You know, I was laughing to hard to even notice

 

[honeisos]

There are a few members here who co-wash their hair everyday and they have hip-length hair: Cichelle is one and the mixed woman with her own website (I can't think of her name right now) who also is a member here with hip-length hair. I don't CW my hair everyday anymore because I found a different type of system to work with as oppose to wetting my hair everyday, but...I don't think that it will clog the pores of the scalp and when you rinse it out, it doesn't weigh your hair down, at least not the conditioners I've used, and it has been plenty

hey nice & wavy beautiful hair by the way . i used to cowash every day when was transitioning my hair looked great and was never weighed down , but that worked for me . someone else might think it was too much . i used the VO5 milks not heavy at all .

 

[Nice & Wavy]

hey nice & wavy beautiful hair by the way . i used to cowarl every day when was transitioning my hair looked great and was never weighed down , but that worked for me . someone else might think it was too much . i used the VO5 milks not heavy at all .

Thank you, honeisos! Your hair looks awesome and I love the color.

Everything works different on everyone, right? If hair is hair, same products should work for everyone...but I guess not.

Anyhoo...I'm going to bed...I've got a system now that when my Mac get's low on battery power (mines is at 6% right now) it's time to hang it up

Goodnight, ladies...and gents!

 

[GabbanaGirl]

I guess it doesn't make sense to me to put shampoo on already clarified (and dried out) hair since shampoo is made to remove things from the strand. I don't see how it can put moisture back in the hair. It seems like conditioner would be better for that.

Thanks for explaining though. It seems like y'all are all doing it for the same reason. This is one of those things that will just never make sense to me I think.

I too do it for the same reason, there are actually lines (such as Keracare) that make a 1rst lather shampoo, it is meant to act as a cleansing/clarifying shampoo, then you are to follow it up with a Moisturizing Shampoo (Keracare Hydrating Shampoo). Because clarifying shampoo's can remove buildup, natural oils, and mineral sediments (if you have hard water), it can also wreak havoc on your hair, by causing it to be stiff and wirey afterwards. This is because clarifying shampoo's don't have nearly the same amount of moisturizing properties that regular shampoo has, it is comprised more of sulfates (cleaning agents) vs moisturizing agents. By using a moisturizing shampoo after the clarifying, you are correcting the pH balance of the hair, (thus closing the cuticle/making hair smoother), and adding moisture. If cuticles are left open, any moisture that is applied to the hair will leave it just as fast. So think of the moisturizing shampoo as prepping the hair for the dc/conditioning after.

Hope this helps some as to why some of us on the board use a moisturizing poo after a clarifying

 

[vainღ♥♡jane]

i've always thought about that. when people layer 7 products, i wonder if some of them don't get a chance to work, since the hair is already covered.​

 

[honeisos]

I've noticed that people who are apt to use more products (like 3-4) are in type 3 range. Do you find that your hair is much more fickle...so much so that you have to use different products or at least rotate your stash? I know my hair is- we could be cruising along great with 1 shampoo, 2 conditioners (moisture & protein), 2 leave-ins and sealant.....then BAM! It just flips the fricking script! Maybe it's just my hair that seems schizo erplexed. The only products that seem to have stood the test of time is the old Cantu formula, Joico, Ion (DCs), Long Aid curl activator gel/Fantasia IC, honey, eggs, olive oil, coconut milk and Emergency 911. I don't know if I'll be able to say the same for Lacio Lacio, ayurveda, the new Garnier soft cream curl replacement or Roots of Nature. Shea butter and coconut oil are inconsistent

we use alot of the same products kb. im not sure if my hair is more fickle but you are right about using products that work well for a while, and then dont i was lovin shea butter a one point and then my hair hated it . but i always go back to cantu and silk gel . 3 hair i think does need a few products to keep the curl lookin good and the frizz down .

 

[kblc06]

You definitely look like a hair twin, sister, 1st cousin 'nem . Our textures look very similar in terms of the density, texture (which is most important), and curl pattern. Even people have the same curl size need entirely different products depending on the texture & strand density.

To the bolded, I too have a love-hate relationship with shea butter. Sometimes it seems to solve all my moisture problems....other times it causes them . Vaseline on my ends helps more during the winter months than shea butter.

we use alot of the same products kb. im not sure if my hair is more fickle but you are right about using products that work well for a while, and then dont i was lovin shea butter a one point and then my hair hated it . but i always go back to cantu and silk gel . 3 hair i think does need a few products to keep the curl lookin good and the frizz down .

 

[honeisos]

You definitely look like a hair twin, sister, 1st cousin 'nem . Our textures look very similar in terms of the density, texture (which is most important), and curl pattern. Even people have the same curl size need entirely different products depending on the texture & strand density. To the bolded, I too have a love-hate relationship with shea butter. Sometimes it seems to solve all my moisture problems....other times it causes them . .

LOL hey sis ! you are totally correct about texture and density . shea is a funny and wonderful butter sometime it works and other times uh uh lol . nice & wavy had the right idea , im going to sleep lol . good night ladies

 

[flowinlocks]

Re: Y'all are putting to many things in your hair.

I love mixing the powders and using it in my hair! I love the way my hair feels after I use them....absolutely wonderful and its soft and smooth....just wonderful

I like the Amla oil as well as a pre-poo, but I love Vatika oil better.....my hair drinks it up!!!

ITA with the bolded, I follow an Ayurvedic reggie, I use several powders and oils. Some of which do the same things, some are very different. Some of the powders are for cleansing, some are for moisture and strength. I have quite a few (actually more than ten) oils. The reason? It's basically a combo of trying to weed out the ones I don't care to much for vs the ones I love, lol and odor. I have oils that work wonderful for giving the hair strength, moisture,shine, and even seem to help with the growth, but they have a less than pleasant odor that no EO can mask. I still want the benefits of theses oils so I use them to prepoo before cowashes, at night and on off days. I save the nicer smelling ones for work and everyday maintenance. I also use a poo bar. Wonder why if I wash with the powders? It's called simplicity and options, some days I'm really tired and don't feel like mixing, but I still want clean hair. I wont give up the powder to the bar because it gives a (different) feeling that I equally love. I also use Castor oil to help lay down NG and seal ends. After a certain point in my stretch the thinner oils alone don't cut it. As far as conds. and cowashing, I have to admit I've tried quite a few, but once again I consider it research in finding my staples. I love AM for moisture, but sometimes I may want a little more slip so I mix in Suave Humectant. Wallah! instant slip. On the flip side Suave helps in the ease of rinsing out powders, but depending on which ones I've used I need to up my moisture so I mix 2 or more. With all the cowashing, which by the way has help my hair thrive. I don't want mushy hair, sooooo I have to use my protein conds. I'm sorry for the long post, but you see what I'm getting at. It's a method to my madness As I think may be the case with most of the members. I may use several products, but my daily style is a bun, so I do consider my reggie simple. Will I eventually drop off some products in the future? Maybe a few of the oils, but that's it. My hair is currently loving what I'm doing. And I don't see myself changing up any time soon.

 

[longhairlover]

I try to stick to one or two leave ins the most especially for my relaxed hair. normally try to just stick with one. your right op about putting too much stuff, loading a bunch of products really isn't going to help your hair grow or look any better faster, simplicity is always better. Even when I was in nyc and would get rollersets they would put small amounts of one leave in only just one, and my hair was beautiful and growing healthy.

I do think natural hair can tolerate a little bit more leave ins than relaxed, to me when too many leave ins are put on relaxed hair it becomes flat imo.

 

[flowinlocks]

I try to stick to one or two leave ins the most especially for my relaxed hair. normally try to just stick with one. your right op about putting too much stuff, loading a bunch of products really isn't going to help your hair grow or look any better faster, simplicity is always better. Even when I was in nyc and would get rollersets they would put small amounts of one leave in only just one, and my hair was beautiful and growing healthy.

I do think natural hair can tolerate a little bit more leave ins than relaxed, to me when too many leave ins are put on relaxed hair it becomes flat imo.

This is true in my case. I do oils, and Cantu Shea to help me plaster down my bun., but when I curl or flatiron it's very little product.

 

[Lenee925]

OP, it's ok to give unsolicited advice about a new product that grew your hair 5 inches in one month etc..but as you can see it's not ok if said advice is unpopular.

 

[flowinlocks]

OP, it's ok to give unsolicited advice about a new product that grew your hair 5 inches in one month etc..but as you can see it's not ok if said advice is unpopular.

Hey fellow late nighter!!

 

[*fabulosity*]

To Fabulosity: my screenname is fine just the way it is thankyou very much, and further more, the last time I checked, Mane N Tail was ORIGINALLY for horses and they made a formula for humans, thankyou.

Ok...
Do you my dear!

 

[Hairsnob]

I totally understand your post but it's just the way it was worded that threw me off. It's kind of accusatory when you start off saying "yall" do this or that. People tend to get defensive if they feel like they're being accused of something, even if they know it's something they're guilty of (or not). And saying "yall" kinda groups everyone together and means that you're accusing everyone but yourself. Believe me, your post is helpful but I can bet that if your title were different you would have received a different tone for your responses.

I can agree with most being that I'm a PJ but I don't use all my products at once. I like to see what combinations work best and I'm learning a lot through trial and error. But I do have a basic regimen that I don't stray too far away from. I do totally see your point though about how some women on youtube give advice on what products to use and then change up. But that's okay because they're just like us, they found better things over time and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

But we all know that written words can come off a certain way even though it wasn't meant that way. It's just one of those flaws of advanced technology. But that's why I think the little smileys on the side are really helpful in setting a tone.

Have a great day!

 

[msa]

By using a moisturizing shampoo after the clarifying, you are correcting the pH balance of the hair, (thus closing the cuticle/making hair smoother), and adding moisture. If cuticles are left open, any moisture that is applied to the hair will leave it just as fast. So think of the moisturizing shampoo as prepping the hair for the dc/conditioning after.

Hope this helps some as to why some of us on the board use a moisturizing poo after a clarifying

Thanks for explaining. I really hope everyone doesn't think I'm being difficult, I'm just interested in figuring this out. I'm thinking of a thread where Gymfreak talked a lot about clarifying and other stuff that affects the cuticle and how it affects the cuticle.

You said using a moisturizing shampoo after clarifying corrects the ph of the hair, which closes the cuticle. But I don't think that's true. Here's what Gym said (this thread was about using baking soda to clarify but she really talked about the issue of clarifying/conditioning in general):

Your cuticle layer is going open to a degree from just getting wet. Dry things do not have a pH so the hair doesn't become charged until it makes contact with water. The physcial act of massaging shampoo through your hair opens the cuticle layer....A shampoo with a low pH still cleanses the hair without leaving you open to damage your hair as much.

The cuticles are not going to open to their max with just shampoo and water but you don't want any extremes.

So, the cuticle opens some just from getting wet, and then the physical act of massaging the shampoo in also opens the cuticle. When she said a low ph shampoo won't damage your hair "as much" that leads me to believe that even if it's moisturizing/lower ph than the clarifier, it's still contributing to opening the cuticle, not closing it. She later goes on to say the second quote, which seems to me to make it clear that shampoo does open the cuticles, but not completely.

Either way, it doesn't seem to make sense to use regular shampoo after clarifying to close the cuticles. I could see how the lower ph of a regular shampoo may "lower" them (if that makes sense), but it's wouldn't close them completely.

***Disclaimer: I'm not trying to twist around Gymfreak's words or anything like that. I'm just using the information as I understand it.***

Now, I'm not sure about whether leaving the cuticles open will allow the moisture to escape just as quickly as you put it in. I think that in the case of dc ingredients that are supposed to have long lasting effects in and on the cuticle that's not going to happen. Those types of ingredients are usually formulated in a way that they don't rinse away so easily, so even if the cuticle were still open they wouldn't just rinse away when you rinse the conditioner out. But that's just my theory.

 

[trendybosschicebz]

Oh I see. That sucks, but I'm glad it's all worked out. I know what it's like to get pm's from crazy folks.

Now that I've been on bhm I don't know which hair to get. One day I want HCCC, the next RHO kinky curly, the next bobraz, and today EPRT.



Yeah, it still doesn't make sense to me lol. I guess it makes more sense to me for someone to clarify, do a quick condition to get their hair back to normal, and then DC. Not clarify, clean it some more with another shampoo, and then DC.

Honestly, it doesn't have to make sense to you, which IMO was the underlying tone in the responses to this thread. It works for hair, so she does it. If it hasn't damaged her hair, then what's the big issue?