Yall are putting to many things in your hair.

[PinkSkates]

I read these posts and I watch you tube and it amazes me how some of you still have hair on your heads. You put so many things on your hair at one time and they all do different things. Like leave ins. You are not supposed to go and put every leave in that you have in your house in your hair at one time. For some of you that would be about 9 or 10 leave ins. You know when people say, simple is best. Less is more. Things like that? It is because it is true! It is like when 2 people are trying to get through the same door. It does not happen. You have to let one person go through then let the other person. See what I am trying to say? Your hair is one person and the products that you put in your hair is the other. Your hair is trying to get through and grow out but all the 50 million products that you put on your scalp won't let it go through. So your hair stays at one length all the time. Simplify your routine! Find out what products your hair likes and stick with them. You only need one or two shampoos or one or two conditioners. You only need 1 or 2 leave ins or 1 or 2 oils. Not 10!

This is just my professional oppinion.

ITA!...go ahead and preach! Simplicity and common sense should always be a part of the hair regimen.

 

[Ediese]

I've ALWAYS wondered why people clarify and then wash with shampoo afterward. I've even asked before and never got an answer. I've decided people just like to wash their hair a lot.

I literally see it all the time. Especially in the regimen or what are you doing to your hair this weekend threads. It's always...clarify with x, then wash with y moisturizing shampoo. It doesn't make sense to me.


ETA: And you've disabled your pm's so I couldn't pm you back to tell you thank you for letting me know when those weave pics went up on bhm. Thanks!

You're welcome. I had to for a while because of some crazy pms I was getting. It's enabled again.

 

[music-bnatural-smile]

Any reason you choose is a valid reason of course.

I'm just confused. If a person clarifies and the hair is stripped, then shampooing right after ward (even if it adds a bit of moisture) is only going to take more stuff from the hair (because shampoos are made to clean). So maybe the hair doesn't feel "stripped", but it still is. Am I making sense?

to me it makes perfect sense... i like to use moisture products, but they feel tacky if i don't clarify, and if i don't clarify enough i get stretchy and my products don't do what theyre supposed to...

i think my specific hair likes to hold onto gook

 

[Mai Tai]

You're welcome. I had to for a while because of some crazy pms I was getting. It's enabled again.

What kind of PM's were you getting? For you to disable that feature. I didn't even know you could do that!

 

[Neith]

Any reason you choose is a valid reason of course.

I'm just confused. If a person clarifies and the hair is stripped, then shampooing right after ward (even if it adds a bit of moisture) is only going to take more stuff from the hair (because shampoos are made to clean). So maybe the hair doesn't feel "stripped", but it still is. Am I making sense?

I find that gentle shampoos only gently surface clean and deposit oils/conditioning agents onto to your hair at the same time.

Isn't that what make them conditioning shampoos?

It would explain how it can go from squeaky clean to normal in one lather.

I dunno. I just don't like to have to part through my hair when it's completely bare like that.

 

[SimplyBlessed]

This post is soooo true...it amazes me how some people claim to KISS but have like 30 products and use so many different things. I use to be a PJ but now I see it is sooooo not worth it...


Ur hair does not need that many products seriously...half of them are probably doing the same thing but since it works well u forget that another product works just as well so u feel the need to use both....

And then when there is growth, with so many products how can u contribute ur growth to any of the things u use....

 

[msa]

to me it makes perfect sense... i like to use moisture products, but they feel tacky if i don't clarify, and if i don't clarify enough i get stretchy and my products don't do what theyre supposed to...

i think my specific hair likes to hold onto gook

So on wash day do you clarify, then wash with shampoo, and then go on with the rest of your regimen?

 

[msa]

You're welcome. I had to for a while because of some crazy pms I was getting. It's enabled again.

Oh I see. That sucks, but I'm glad it's all worked out. I know what it's like to get pm's from crazy folks.

Now that I've been on bhm I don't know which hair to get. One day I want HCCC, the next RHO kinky curly, the next bobraz, and today EPRT.

I find that gentle shampoos only gently surface clean and deposit oils/conditioning agents onto to your hair at the same time.

Isn't that what make them conditioning shampoos?

It would explain how it can go from squeaky clean to normal in one lather.

I dunno. I just don't like to have to part through my hair when it's completely bare like that.

Yeah, it still doesn't make sense to me lol. I guess it makes more sense to me for someone to clarify, do a quick condition to get their hair back to normal, and then DC. Not clarify, clean it some more with another shampoo, and then DC.

 

[MoMo]

I find that gentle shampoos only gently surface clean and deposit oils/conditioning agents onto to your hair at the same time.

Isn't that what make them conditioning shampoos?

It would explain how it can go from squeaky clean to normal in one lather.

I dunno. I just don't like to have to part through my hair when it's completely bare like that.

I get what you are saying. It is very difficult for me to add conditioner or any product to hair that has been completely stripped. You should not have to give a dissertation on the matter...this works for you and many others.

 

[Junebug D]

If it works for them... what's the problem? There are worse things to put on your head than conditioner or shampoo.

 

[chebaby]

i agree with OP and msa. some people do use many products. now its not my place to say if that is right or wrong but IMO 2 shampoo, a mix of conditioners, several leave ins, glossers and heat protectants and then a moisturizer and sealant is too much.
i also know what works for one may not work for another which is why i wouldnt say using xyz is too much but i understand where OP is coming from.

 

[Nice Lady]

I think that you may be right but my only question is who personally do you follow that has such an extensive regimen. I know that I use a series of conditioners depending on how my hair feels. For instance, tuesday, Alba Hydrating Conditioner, Wednesday, MillCreek Henna Conditioner(hair feels limp) or etc.

I never mix unless my conditioners are down to nada and it makes sense to mix them then throw the whole thing (at least a section of hair worth's)in the garbage. However, I do with every deep conditioner apply conditioner plus an oil and it works well with my hair and even enhances the conditioners' properties. So....

Some of the people mixing stuff are doing wonderful. One girl I can think of grew her hair from SL to APL mixing two conditioners during almost every DC. How would you explain this phemenon?

 

[msa]

I get what you are saying. It is very difficult for me to add conditioner or any product to hair that has been completely stripped. You should not have to give a dissertation on the matter...this works for you and many others.

I really was just asking because I was curious and I'm glad Neith has taken the time to explain because I was really sitting her like every time I saw it. I wasn't asking for her to justify her regimen or anything like that.

It still doesn't really make sense to me, but I like knowing why people do what they do.

 

[music-bnatural-smile]

So on wash day do you clarify, then wash with shampoo, and then go on with the rest of your regimen?

nononononononono lol

clarify
moisture DC
rinse
leave in protein condish
detangler!

i don't want any shampoo anywhere near my hair unless its a clarifier...
i shampooed with some pantene the other day just to try and it was

 

[Neith]

Yeah, it still doesn't make sense to me lol. I guess it makes more sense to me for someone to clarify, do a quick condition to get their hair back to normal, and then DC. Not clarify, clean it some more with another shampoo, and then DC.

To me that's a waste of conditioner... I'd rather use a quarter size of shampoo than a handful of conditioner for an instant condition when I'm about to go deep condition anyway. I'm on a budget!

It's not like the shampoo is drying out my hair. Sooooo.... yeah. I'm good with my regimen the way it is.

 

[msa]

This post is soooo true...it amazes me how some people claim to KISS but have like 30 products and use so many different things. I use to be a PJ but now I see it is sooooo not worth it...


Ur hair does not need that many products seriously...half of them are probably doing the same thing but since it works well u forget that another product works just as well so u feel the need to use both....

And then when there is growth, with so many products how can u contribute ur growth to any of the things u use....

They can't. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. If you're taking vitamins, changed your diet, exercise, use a bt/mn/mtg/megatek mix, and started scalp massaging then you shouldn't be in threads talking about one specific product made your hair grow.

 

[msa]

nononononononono lol

clarify
moisture DC
rinse
leave in protein condish
detangler!

i don't want any shampoo anywhere near my hair unless its a clarifier...
i shampooed with some pantene the other day just to try and it was

Oh ok! Got it.

To me that's a waste of conditioner... I'd rather use a quarter size of shampoo than a handful of conditioner for an instant condition when I'm about to go deep condition anyway. I'm on a budget!

It's not like the shampoo is drying out my hair. Sooooo.... yeah. I'm good with my regimen the way it is.

I see I see. Well not really, but kind of. Thanks for explaining.

 

[nymane]

I do it to get rid of that stropped feeling. My gentle poo puts a little bit of moisture in my hair and makes it easier to apply my DC.

Especially with my hair that shrinks so much, I have to finger part through a forest of hair to get a good root to tip application

It's not a huge part of my regimen, but it does help.

Valid reason imo. but oooops... I'm not "supposed" to be doing that to my hair.

I agree, I does help (although I don't do it often) when I try a new shampoo that ends up stripping my hair...it helps

Any reason you choose is a valid reason of course.

I'm just confused. If a person clarifies and the hair is stripped, then shampooing right after ward (even if it adds a bit of moisture) is only going to take more stuff from the hair (because shampoos are made to clean). So maybe the hair doesn't feel "stripped", but it still is. Am I making sense?

Good point, in theory it sounds counter-productive, but if my hair is stripped I need something to soften it up a bit before I DC or else my hair will not be as soft as it could be...but now I prefer co-washing after...or better yet, NOT being a PJ and messing up a good thing! lol

 

[SVT]

That is ok. I am not trying to start up drama.
I am just writing what I see.
I see some of peoples routiens, and it looks like a bit much to me.
Now, I do watch alot of you tube and I know some people on there put to many things in their hair. Then the next vid that they do they are talking about how they don't use such and such anymore or how they need a clarifying. Or they are showing you a whole new routine. Last one was a bit much.
I am not trying to start a fight. I am just trying to help.

Thanks!
............

 

[Neith]

I get what you are saying. It is very difficult for me to add conditioner or any product to hair that has been completely stripped. You should not have to give a dissertation on the matter...this works for you and many others.

Yep, I know I'm far from being the only one

It's all cool though. I'm here mainly to talk about hair

I know I definitely ask when something doesn't make sense or confuses me, and it's just because I'm inquisitive.

 

[*fabulosity*]

They can't. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. If you're taking vitamins, changed your diet, exercise, use a bt/mn/mtg/megatek mix, and started scalp massaging then you shouldn't be in threads talking about one specific product made your hair grow.

What does it matter as long as the hair grows? We have all decided that hair is gonna grow regardless of what you do.. it's the retention that matters in seeing length.

Plus all of those things are good for you regardless of what your goals are.. Perhaps except for the MT. But hey folks can say what they want about that... it worked for me.. so did chlorella, spirulina, working out and eating better..

I don't critique anybody... I just do me. I wish a bunch of folks would do the same instead of commenting on every darn thing.. Like I would never wear a weave or BC.. but you don't see me in every "I BC'ed" thread going why? If they like it I love it.

 

[Nice Lady]

They can't. That's one of my biggest pet peeves. If you're taking vitamins, changed your diet, exercise, use a bt/mn/mtg/megatek mix, and started scalp massaging then you shouldn't be in threads talking about one specific product made your hair grow.

Lol.

 

[msa]

What does it matter as long as the hair grows? We have all decided that hair is gonna grow regardless of what you do.. it's the retention that matters in seeing length.

Plus all of those things are good for you regardless of what your goals are.. Perhaps except for the MT.

I don't critique anybody... I just do me. I wish a bunch of folks would do the same instead of commenting on every darn thing.. Like I would never wear a weave or BC.. but you don't see me in every "I BC'ed" thread going why? If they like it I love it.

Oh I don't think there's anything wrong with using any of those things. At all. In fact I've probably recommended them to people before. (Though I wouldn't use the topical ones and it's debatable whether they're all good for you, but that's another thread.)

I just think it's misleading to go into a thread a say MT made my hair grow when you know you've been using MT, BT, herbs, vitamins, and a host of other things that could have contributed.

 

[prettynatural]

I love that I found this board. It has helped me out alot as well.
I love that you guys put what you do down here for us to read.
I know that your hair is your hair and mine is mine.
I try to leave my "telling people what to do" in the salon.
People ask me alot, what should I do with my hair? What do you think about this or that? I may try to help when help is not needed. I am used to it. That is my job. It is hard to leave your job at your job. If you know what I am saying. I did not mean to affend anyone. I just like to help. Maybe to much.

I don't think you mean't to be offensive. I feel ya!

 

[Mortons]

What does it matter as long as the hair grows? We have all decided that hair is gonna grow regardless of what you do.. it's the retention that matters in seeing length.

Plus all of those things are good for you regardless of what your goals are.. Perhaps except for the MT. But hey folks can say what they want about that... it worked for me.. so did chlorella, spirulina, working out and eating better..

I don't critique anybody... I just do me. I wish a bunch of folks would do the same instead of commenting on every darn thing.. Like I would never wear a weave or BC.. but you don't see me in every "I BC'ed" thread going why? If they like it I love it.

I think she means, how can you tell what exactly made your hair grow when you are doing so much. I often see people on here monthly talking about they found this and that product and it was the best product ever. Really though? How are you rotating 30 products and they are all the best ever?

But like you said I let people do them. My regimen stays simple and my money in my wallet so I'm good personally.

 

[SVT]

Thanks to the ladies keeping the discussion civil.

 

[*fabulosity*]

I think she means, how can you tell what exactly made your hair grow when you are doing so much. I often see people on here monthly talking about they found this and that product and it was the best product ever. Really though? How are you rotating 30 products and they are all the best ever?

But like you said I let people do them. My regimen stays simple and my money in my wallet so I'm good personally.

I understand what she means; but at the same time.. if it's all good for me making my hair and overall body better... what's the point... so I am supposed to take my vitamins separately to see if I get a 1/4 inch then work out to see if I get another quarter inch.. while not taking my vits or drinking my supplements?? It' s like its so not that serious to me. I don't need to PINPOINT exactly what made my hair grow.. better care, a healthy lifestyle, and proper diet will never ever steer you wrong.

And I do a few reviews here and there because I have rotated about that many in a month... do I expect everyone else to do that.. well no. Sometimes things work and sometimes they don't. I just have always been one to try new things.. and that definitely crosses over into my haircare regimen. I've been successful so far. I've seen people post like oh no such and such changed the ingredients now I need to find a new X,Y,Z. I already have my staples and back ups in rotation. I guess I just feel like people should comment on things that they actually know about. I feel less inclined to take someone's advice when they have no relevant point of reference. Like a person who has been natural all of their lives telling me why relaxers are bad...Just not credible IMO.

 

[MonaLisa]

Let me try this...

Very nice exchange of discourse...

 

[msa]

I understand what she means; but at the same time.. if it's all good for me making my hair and overall body better... what's the point... so I am supposed to take my vitamins separately to see if I get a 1/4 inch then work out to see if I get another quarter inch.. while not taking my vits or drinking my supplements?? It' s like its so not that serious to me. I don't need to PINPOINT exactly what made my hair grow.. better care, a healthy lifestyle, and proper diet will never ever steer you wrong.

I agree that better care, healthy lifestyle, and a proper diet will never steer you wrong. And I'm not saying people shouldn't do those things.

I was just saying that it is a pet peeve of mine when people will start threads or give reviews saying, for example, MT made their hair grow an inch a month when all the while they've been using MT along with other topical growth aids. It's misleading in my opinion. It's like if I said I lost 50 pounds by drinking green tea but I didn't also disclose the fact that I took a diet pill and exercised every day as well.

I think people should do what they want to do, but if you're going to give a review on a specific thing then you should put all the information out there.

 

[producjunki]

I agree with CreoleHottie, even the thread starter for making this thread! There is some truth to what your'e saying! I really can't imagine cowashing my hair EVERYDAY!

First off, I have hair just past my brastrap, and Second, I would run through loads of conditioner. Third, I have oily skin, and if I was to cowash EVERYDAY, It would not only way my hair down, but it might break my skin out, and it might clog the pores of my scalp, in return defeating the purpose of cowashing to make my hair longer if the pores of my scalp are clogged.