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4a/b Natural Support and FAQ Thread (da Nappy Head Thread)

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I was referred to a stylist. I called her on the phone and let her know I was natural and I needed a press and curl. She was super friendly on the phone. I thought I was going to a place of business because of the business card I had. When I went there, it was an apartment. That was cool, I will get more personal service. WRONG, when I knocked on the door she said rulely, it's not 4 o'clock yet but you can come in. IT WAS 3:55. She did not say hello. how are you, nice to meet you. Ok so she doesn't like small talk cool. Her body language showed that she had a attitude or just in a bad mood (PMS). The 2nd thing she said to me is I am an instructor. WOW, I thought to myself, know wonder these beauticians don't care, cause people like you are teaching them. Ok so she is an instuctor, she will want to know about my hair history and hair goals. Just like a doctor would want to know about your history and things you are attemping to do to correct any health issues. WRONG she was quiet as a mouse, I was scared to say anything lol. She comb my hair like I had a fresh prem, I am a 4b natural. I don't believe stylist know how to handle natural hair. If you can't do something, why just not say so. Is money worth your reputation. But I guess reputation don't mean much as I seen the minutue I walked in the door. She had to be the worst I have been to. I quit relaxing 3 years ago and I wanted to get it pressed to see some lenght and the condition of my hair. This INSTRUCTOR, couldn't press her way out of a paper bag. I felt really bad that I paid my money to be treated this way. I felt bad for letting someone else abuse my hair that I bady everyday. I felt bad that my hair look worst when I walked out then it did when I walked in. :wallbash:

I'm sorry that happened to you. That's why I just can't have anyone else do my hair.
 
Hey guys!! Im back...with more questions!! :grin: What do you all put on your hair after you wash it and are about to dry it to prevent it from becoming crunchy? I applied ORS Oil Moisturizer and then castor oil and used the banding method. My hair was sort of soft but I know that it could have been softer. PLease help!!
 
Hey guys!! Im back...with more questions!! :grin: What do you all put on your hair after you wash it and are about to dry it to prevent it from becoming crunchy? I applied ORS Oil Moisturizer and then castor oil and used the banding method. My hair was sort of soft but I know that it could have been softer. PLease help!!
It seems like quite a few natural ladies like Giovanni Direct Leave-In or Elucence MB as a leave in.

I'm still transitioning, but I've been using Nexxus Headress Leave-In. I've been putting either BB Oil Moisturizer or Fantasia IC Gel (I have the clear one) on top of the Nexxus. My hair doesn't turn out crunchy.

Did you see this thread about biracialhair.org (thanks again Samantha)? Check out the "Curly primer" page on that site. Lauren450 got great results with it. She posted about it here.
 
Hey guys!! Im back...with more questions!! :grin: What do you all put on your hair after you wash it and are about to dry it to prevent it from becoming crunchy? I applied ORS Oil Moisturizer and then castor oil and used the banding method. My hair was sort of soft but I know that it could have been softer. PLease help!!

Giovanni direct leave in and castor oil.
 
I was referred to a stylist. I called her on the phone and let her know I was natural and I needed a press and curl. She was super friendly on the phone. I thought I was going to a place of business because of the business card I had. When I went there, it was an apartment. That was cool, I will get more personal service. WRONG, when I knocked on the door she said rulely, it's not 4 o'clock yet but you can come in. IT WAS 3:55. She did not say hello. how are you, nice to meet you. Ok so she doesn't like small talk cool. Her body language showed that she had a attitude or just in a bad mood (PMS). The 2nd thing she said to me is I am an instructor. WOW, I thought to myself, know wonder these beauticians don't care, cause people like you are teaching them. Ok so she is an instuctor, she will want to know about my hair history and hair goals. Just like a doctor would want to know about your history and things you are attemping to do to correct any health issues. WRONG she was quiet as a mouse, I was scared to say anything lol. She comb my hair like I had a fresh prem, I am a 4b natural. I don't believe stylist know how to handle natural hair. If you can't do something, why just not say so. Is money worth your reputation. But I guess reputation don't mean much as I seen the minutue I walked in the door. She had to be the worst I have been to. I quit relaxing 3 years ago and I wanted to get it pressed to see some lenght and the condition of my hair. This INSTRUCTOR, couldn't press her way out of a paper bag. I felt really bad that I paid my money to be treated this way. I felt bad for letting someone else abuse my hair that I bady everyday. I felt bad that my hair look worst when I walked out then it did when I walked in. :wallbash:

I would have turned around as soon as homegirl reminded me of the time. :cowgirl: She was straight trippin'.
 
It's not 4 o'clock yet!!! Don't give away your money....if a person who is unprofessional before starting your hair what makes you think they are going to be professional to your hair? I' rather have someone come to my house/shop early and/or ontime than late...and even still, after being late I'll be courteous. If she was ruff hadling my mane I would have smooth said, "hold up swole up, back the h... up! :lachen:I'm sorry but that ***** wouldn't have came in 5 ft. of my mane. :lachen:
 
I was referred to a stylist. I called her on the phone and let her know I was natural and I needed a press and curl. She was super friendly on the phone. I thought I was going to a place of business because of the business card I had. When I went there, it was an apartment. That was cool, I will get more personal service. WRONG, when I knocked on the door she said rulely, it's not 4 o'clock yet but you can come in. IT WAS 3:55. She did not say hello. how are you, nice to meet you. Ok so she doesn't like small talk cool. Her body language showed that she had a attitude or just in a bad mood (PMS). The 2nd thing she said to me is I am an instructor. WOW, I thought to myself, know wonder these beauticians don't care, cause people like you are teaching them. Ok so she is an instuctor, she will want to know about my hair history and hair goals. Just like a doctor would want to know about your history and things you are attemping to do to correct any health issues. WRONG she was quiet as a mouse, I was scared to say anything lol. She comb my hair like I had a fresh prem, I am a 4b natural. I don't believe stylist know how to handle natural hair. If you can't do something, why just not say so. Is money worth your reputation. But I guess reputation don't mean much as I seen the minutue I walked in the door. She had to be the worst I have been to. I quit relaxing 3 years ago and I wanted to get it pressed to see some lenght and the condition of my hair. This INSTRUCTOR, couldn't press her way out of a paper bag. I felt really bad that I paid my money to be treated this way. I felt bad for letting someone else abuse my hair that I bady everyday. I felt bad that my hair look worst when I walked out then it did when I walked in. :wallbash:


Sorry this happend to you! I've been in this situation with a bad stylist it. After this last one...I am done. I could use to save my money anyway.

(((Hugs)))) to your tresses!
 
Hi girls. I am debating changing my routine. I am a constant shedder but I was wondering if I changed my system from co-washing 4xweek to once a week, will I retain more length? Or will it be more detrimental cause my scalp won't be as clean?:ohwell:
 
What's better to use for color, semi-permanent or permanent? I have some greys, but I want something that won't leave my hair dry.
 
What's better to use for color, semi-permanent or permanent? I have some greys, but I want something that won't leave my hair dry.


I've been doing henna with indigo. I don't want the red that henna does naturally. The first three days your hair will be a little hard and dry. I just slather it in my coconut oil, glycerin, EVOO, etc. and by day three, it's soft and luscious. The color looks like your hair and not like color, KWIM? Check out my fotki if you'd like. If you were looking for exotic colors, don't know what to tell you on that!!!!
 
Hi girls. I am debating changing my routine. I am a constant shedder but I was wondering if I changed my system from co-washing 4xweek to once a week, will I retain more length? Or will it be more detrimental cause my scalp won't be as clean?:ohwell:

If I co-washed 4x a week, I would retain NO length because of the daily manipulation. I wash once a week or once every two weeks, and my scalp is fine.
 
Hi girls. I am debating changing my routine. I am a constant shedder but I was wondering if I changed my system from co-washing 4xweek to once a week, will I retain more length? Or will it be more detrimental cause my scalp won't be as clean?:ohwell:

I think it'll help. I reduced my CO washing and the shedding decreased. Try it out and see. I'm so OCD, I actually count the hairs. Once I decreased my CO washing my losses were back at 15-20 hairs a day.
 
I've been doing henna with indigo. I don't want the red that henna does naturally. The first three days your hair will be a little hard and dry. I just slather it in my coconut oil, glycerin, EVOO, etc. and by day three, it's soft and luscious. The color looks like your hair and not like color, KWIM? Check out my fotki if you'd like. If you were looking for exotic colors, don't know what to tell you on that!!!!

Thanks Naturalgirl! Looks good! Did you put the henna on first, then indigo, or mixed them togther?
 
If I co-washed 4x a week, I would retain NO length because of the daily manipulation. I wash once a week or once every two weeks, and my scalp is fine.

I think it'll help. I reduced my CO washing and the shedding decreased. Try it out and see. I'm so OCD, I actually count the hairs. Once I decreased my CO washing my losses were back at 15-20 hairs a day.

Thanks Sunshine and naturalgirl. I believe you guys are so right. I'm gonna try co-washing once a week and see what happens. I do believe even though it felt good on my scalp to wash that often it was just too much manipulation.
 
I think it'll help. I reduced my CO washing and the shedding decreased. Try it out and see. I'm so OCD, I actually count the hairs. Once I decreased my CO washing my losses were back at 15-20 hairs a day.

I think I'm going to agree with this. I gave frequent cowashing and detangling a go. It's not so bad, it makes detangling really easy for me, 15-20 minutes. But it seemed like I got a lot of shed hair. And I do mean shed, not broken. That doesn't make any sense to me, why that should be the case, so maybe it's psychological because I have to see the shed hairs all the time. But it seemed like I would get almost as much shed hair in 1 or 2 washes as I would regularly get in a week.
 
Hi natural ladies,

I have a question. Do you all believe that no matter what you guys do, you will experience some breakage (I mean like maybe 1-3 broken hairs a day?) Do you believe that you can still retain growth if this occurs? I mean, really, does everyone have the time to examine every hair that is in the comb?

I already know that a broken hair is one that doesn't have a bulb at the end, but am I right in thinking anything else that doesn't have this bulb is breakage? If so, does a broken hair need to be a certain length?
 
Hi natural ladies,

I have a question. Do you all believe that no matter what you guys do, you will experience some breakage (I mean like maybe 1-3 broken hairs a day?) Do you believe that you can still retain growth if this occurs? I mean, really, does everyone have the time to examine every hair that is in the comb?

I already know that a broken hair is one that doesn't have a bulb at the end, but am I right in thinking anything else that doesn't have this bulb is breakage? If so, does a broken hair need to be a certain length?

Personally, I doubt that I will ever have NO breakage, at all. I think that a few broken hairs a day isn't going to stop you from retaining growth. Might move a lil slower, but you will still retain - because it's not like it's breaking off evenly all over your head, ya know?

Broken hairs can be any length at all. Shed hairs are usually 'long' ones (as long as your hair, generally).

I assume anything without the bulb broke.
 
Hi natural ladies,

I have a question. Do you all believe that no matter what you guys do, you will experience some breakage (I mean like maybe 1-3 broken hairs a day?) Do you believe that you can still retain growth if this occurs? I mean, really, does everyone have the time to examine every hair that is in the comb?

I already know that a broken hair is one that doesn't have a bulb at the end, but am I right in thinking anything else that doesn't have this bulb is breakage? If so, does a broken hair need to be a certain length?

Now it's a difference in breaking and sheading..
Naturally your hair is suppose to shead a certain amount of hairs a day, that's just part of the hair growth cycle..
Now as far as breakage is concerned, you will be able to feel it pop, and notice brittleness, knotting in the strand, etc...
if thats the case, then you would need to assess why this may be occuring, and handle the situation from there...
but with proper hair care, it is possible to have little to any breakage at all... Oh, and as far as broken hair strands go, the length in the breakage doesn't make a difference at all...
breakage is breakage.
 
I am new to natural I had my first press n curl since I was 12years old a month ago. I think the beautician trimmed it dry. I got a good trim though. I don't want to press and curl too much though.
 
Hi natural ladies,

I have a question. Do you all believe that no matter what you guys do, you will experience some breakage (I mean like maybe 1-3 broken hairs a day?) Do you believe that you can still retain growth if this occurs? I mean, really, does everyone have the time to examine every hair that is in the comb?

I already know that a broken hair is one that doesn't have a bulb at the end, but am I right in thinking anything else that doesn't have this bulb is breakage? If so, does a broken hair need to be a certain length?


I agree with those that say you'll hear it when it snaps and also than it wouldn't hinder the length...just slow it.
Honestly for me I am getting less breakage as a natural than I was relaxed. I also don't comb my hair like I did when I was relaxed either.
 
I had reached shoulder length stretched(in most parts), but I've been very negelectful of my hair so I did another bc. I'm back to 3-4 inches. I don't really mind b/c my hair seems to grow fast, but I don't want to have to do anymore chopping lol. I plan to take better care of it. I have a quick question. I cut b/c I had all of these weird strands, some of them were really thick and almost looked like plastic. Those strands had a bunch of holes in them along the length(not the ends). What do you think caused them? I flat ironed my hair twice, but I had those strands before I ever used heat. I use a seamless comb and use all natural products. I had been leaving my hair in a shrunken fro and not combing for weeks at a time, which lead to dryness. Do you guys think dryness caused those weird strands/damage?
 
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