MystiqueBabe
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Why are people making a big deal over what race they buy from? I didn't know it was that serious to some people. I don't care what race I give my money to, if you have what I want at a reasonable price, I am buying.
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Those Asians BSS refuse to let a cent pass them by!
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RocStar
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Good for you.
LexiDior
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LadyRaider
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There is a real issue with Asian businesses blocking other businesses from getting some products. It's not just weave hair, there are some specialized equipment that salons use as well that they are monopolizing. But the main thing is the weave hair. If we stop wearing the hair, we won't need to worry about what the Asian businesses are doing. If you want to make a statement, don't buy their hair.
There are several examples of Asian businesses (not bss) being willing to open shop in a black neighborhood where others would not. So I wouldn't lump them all together. Like the OP said, that individual store owner is just interested in making every buck that he can.
Ending the demand for weave hair will be enough to send the right people the right message.
That said, if you want to frequent Asian bss, I think you are fine doing so, but I would NOT recommend buying weave hair from them.
There are several examples of Asian businesses (not bss) being willing to open shop in a black neighborhood where others would not. So I wouldn't lump them all together. Like the OP said, that individual store owner is just interested in making every buck that he can.
Ending the demand for weave hair will be enough to send the right people the right message.
That said, if you want to frequent Asian bss, I think you are fine doing so, but I would NOT recommend buying weave hair from them.
HeavenlySkies
Active Member
Might as well start donating to the KKK as well since it doesn't matter where your money is going despite the fact of your race being deliberately discriminated and blocked from being successful.
CodeRed
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Believe me, if the KKK cornered the market on weave like the Asians have, they'd be getting a lot of money. And in a way, if you think about a lot of rich white people (the people who probably own most of these weave companies if you follow the trail of money), it's not like they are the most liberal, open minded people you'll ever meet. There's a chance they are just as racist as the Asian people selling weave. The fact that people are still spending billions of dollars on fake hair and it seems many of the receivers of this money blatantly discriminate against them says a lot.
Great posts in 29 and 34, but the way your "crown" looks is more important
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TopShelf
Sewing & Growing Gamma Gal
You know what......I have used tons of black businesses, whether it be a salon, small clothing boutique, restaurant, etc etc and they have given me crappy service. When I can I try and go to black people but all too OFTEN the service is trash!!! Just recently I went to Dookie Chase in N.O. (black owned) and the freaking service was the worse that I have EVER encountered in all of my life. The wait was ridiculous (2hours), we were give used glasses, our desserts and drinks were not brought out, the list goes on!!
The Asians have their crappy ways of doing business and so do black people!!!
I will not use the business of someone black simply because they are black knowing that I will have to pay an arm and a leg for shipping or that I will have to encounter poor overall customer service.
For too many of you women on this board any and everything is worth an argument/fight/battle/debate/protest.....to me it's not. I know that if I put positive energy out there then that is what I will receive.
The Asians have their crappy ways of doing business and so do black people!!!
I will not use the business of someone black simply because they are black knowing that I will have to pay an arm and a leg for shipping or that I will have to encounter poor overall customer service.
For too many of you women on this board any and everything is worth an argument/fight/battle/debate/protest.....to me it's not. I know that if I put positive energy out there then that is what I will receive.
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CodeRed
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TopShelf
Sewing & Growing Gamma Gal
Its fine, they can.....I like using the ignore function
These women live to tell others what to do, how to live.......ON LINE!!! Ask them how many of them have ever told their coworkers, or other strangers in the street to boycott the Asians. They are worse than the daggone Jehovah's witness on a Saturday!
$6.50 gives you the ability but NOT the RIGHT to police other people.
These women live to tell others what to do, how to live.......ON LINE!!! Ask them how many of them have ever told their coworkers, or other strangers in the street to boycott the Asians. They are worse than the daggone Jehovah's witness on a Saturday!
$6.50 gives you the ability but NOT the RIGHT to police other people.
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RoundEyedGirl504
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Sorry to hear about Dookie Chase. The restaurant isn't what it used to be since Leah and is older and quite frankly business is slow.
I've had great/terrible service from every race. I do try to go to black people first though and give them a shot. But I ain't going back if I have an issue. Same with others.
This is an online discussion forum. No one can come to your house and force you to spend your money a certain way. There is no need for anyone to get worked up. We all have different convictions and everyone only has to live by her or his.
I do tell my family and friends to boycott anything I am boycotting. They don't always listen to me at first, but I am persistent and get into their subconsciousness eventually.
I do tell my family and friends to boycott anything I am boycotting. They don't always listen to me at first, but I am persistent and get into their subconsciousness eventually
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TopShelf
Sewing & Growing Gamma Gal
Ogoma please stop, thank you!!! the thread was about something funny that happened to me, no one was discussing any of the boycott "stuff" that was written so again.....gtfoh!
I am worked up because it becomes rather annoying that something as simple as a .....a funny thing happened to me turns into foolishness about the KKK! People like you interject the term "online discussion forum" because you like the nonsense and the drama so this makes it, okay
I am worked up because it becomes rather annoying that something as simple as a .....a funny thing happened to me turns into foolishness about the KKK! People like you interject the term "online discussion forum" because you like the nonsense and the drama so this makes it, okay
Osha
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It took about 3 years to get that long from just below SL, with a lot of little chops along the way coz I tend get a row of little wwww"s across the bottom. I use indian oils regularly and powders when I can be bothered with it, ( I'm kind of lazy). Over the years I've used many different commercial conditioners, I've never stuck to one product, I like trying new products all the time, but some of my favourites are Matrix Total Results moisture conditioner, Joico K-pak, Herbal Essences Hello Hydration, Redken All Soft Heavy Cream, Philip Kingsley Extreme Elasticizer (its a pre-poo) and Burts Bees Avacado Pre-poo. I use the pricey ones sparingly for dc'ing and the cheaper ones for cw. My current conditioner is Al'chemy avacado and calendula conditioner, it's an Australian product, I don't know if it's available in other countries. My hair is type 3b/c and TR'ed, a lot easier to grow in that state, I was never able to grow it long when curly.
mz.rae
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I feel like this is the other side of the support black business argument and I agree as well. I want to support black businesses, but at the same time I am not going to support with my hard earned money somewhere where the people have funky attitudes and the product is utter trash. Now don't get me wrong I'm not lumping ALL black businesses in this category, but quite that I have been to fit the description. If I had to choose between a Korean BSS where the service was excellent (staff,products, etc.) and a Black owned BSS where everyone walks around with a funky attitude then I would go to the Korean BSS, and that goes for any business no matter the race! I'm not going to support bad service just because they are black, for me it takes more than that.
I have been looking at that masque as well. I feel so lazy to pre-poo sometimes so I am worried I will buy it and not use it.
Osha
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You're welcome. I hope your hair likes it.
The tube is so small. I think I would need one tube to cover my entire head.
FlyyBohemian
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I remember going to the Carol's Daughter store in Pentagon City Mall in Virginia. The lady behind the counter didn't pay me any mind or try to help me even though I was the only customer in the store at that time. Soon a white lady comes in and she was all smiley and ready to help her. I still bought some products because they were having a good deal that day, but why should I support something like that? Sometimes these black patrons will cater to their white customers a whole lot better than they will cater to their own. I want to support black businesses too but for the most part I will take my money where my dollar is going to stretch.
petitefille
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Everyone is so worked up about dishonest practices of Korean BSS's, so I hope you're all boycotting Walmart too... and dollar stores... and Apple... and where do you think your weave comes from? :/
At the end of the day, everyone is trying to save a dollar.
At the end of the day, everyone is trying to save a dollar.
BklynHeart
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For me, it's a lot more than just them selling products to us. They've been known to sell knock-off Kizure Professional curling irons, those heavy ones you see in the salons, that you have to stick in that little mini-oven to heat? And Kizure is a BLACK-OWNED company. Some stylists were buying them thinking they were the real ones, and realized they weren't when there were heating issues with them.
Plus, there are some weave/wig companies that are BLACK-OWNED as well. What they do? Made knock-off versions of those, stick the company's name on it and pass it off as that company's brand. So they're bootlegging black-owned products and taking all the profits from them.
Plus, there are some weave/wig companies that are BLACK-OWNED as well. What they do? Made knock-off versions of those, stick the company's name on it and pass it off as that company's brand. So they're bootlegging black-owned products and taking all the profits from them.
I do boycott Korean BSS, and Walmart, and dollar stores, and I don't buy weave or wigs - but I'm not encouraging everyone to do the same. However, nobody is saying you should accept bad service because the business is black owned. I support black businesses. If the service is bad, they lose a customer and I tell others to stay away. If the service is good, I continue to buy from them and I let others know.
I am willing to pay for shipping in order to get my hair products from a black owned company because I know how difficult it is for black owned hair care companies/small businesses AND because they have good products that I love.
There is so much racism in the world, we can't boycott everything, but when the racism is so blatant and widespread, I can't just keep shopping there and say I don't care if they disrespect me as long as the products are cheap.
I am willing to pay for shipping in order to get my hair products from a black owned company because I know how difficult it is for black owned hair care companies/small businesses AND because they have good products that I love.
There is so much racism in the world, we can't boycott everything, but when the racism is so blatant and widespread, I can't just keep shopping there and say I don't care if they disrespect me as long as the products are cheap.
petitefille
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Fair enough. But like you said, racism is everywhere (I'll come back to this point in a second). I don't remember the details of the original thread discussing Korean BSS's (if someone could link me that would be great) but I don't know that all Korean BSS's do this, and it seems unfair to paint them all with the same brush strokes that perpetuate racism in the first place.
As an African I've experienced racism from both black Americans and Caribbeans, and I'm not going to promise to give someone my money simply because they're black. There is racism everywhere and unless I know a particular person is guilty of it, I see no reason to boycott a whole group of people, some of which may be innocent in all this. I've gone to a Korean BSS in my area and they've been nothing but helpful toward me; I have no reason to believe that they, in particular, are racist. Yet I once went to a Jamaican restaurant and asked for "plantain", not "plantin", and the cashier gave me the most derisive look. To what extent do I have to research on whether the owner of a particular brand is discriminatory specifically toward me...
I can appreciate boycotting something you want to change and I'm not saying that it's a bad thing. But I'd have to look at the details to see where the racism lies. If the racism is with the distributor I can't really fault particular BSS's---they're going to take a discount as quickly as the next guy. And I'd sooner boycott a specific group with stated discriminatory practices, like a certain hair board that shall remain nameless.
I feel like the problem here is the distribution, not particular BSS's... and I'd like to understand how Koreans are getting cheaper non-hair products as well.
ETA: Found the original KBSS thread (it's on the first page). Looking into it now.
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I really don't get the argument about black business having crappy service when you can get treated just as crappy at the KBSS. And that is actually only a small part of the argument. I'm not trying to police other people but why would ANYONE want to support a business that refuses to let your people in the market. This is a classic case of keeping "us" down in my opinion. They'll take our money but won't let us in?
However, I do understand that some people don't have the luxury of boycotting. Sometimes there aren't a lot of options depending on where you are. But seeing people basically saying "yeah they hate us, but so what I'm still going to give them my hard earned dollars" is a bit disappointing.
TopShelf you posted the thread and it turned into something you didn't expect. You have to take the good with the bad. That's the way of public discussion boards. People CAN (and DO) say what they want here. It's ok to disagree, no need to get all worked up.
However, I do understand that some people don't have the luxury of boycotting. Sometimes there aren't a lot of options depending on where you are. But seeing people basically saying "yeah they hate us, but so what I'm still going to give them my hard earned dollars" is a bit disappointing.
TopShelf you posted the thread and it turned into something you didn't expect. You have to take the good with the bad. That's the way of public discussion boards. People CAN (and DO) say what they want here. It's ok to disagree, no need to get all worked up.
Froreal3
haulin hard in the paint
^^ This. It's not simply about getting crappy service. As a matter of fact, my fav KBSS has excellent customer service. The black girl that they have in the wig/weave area (which is ironically very small compared to the product sections) is super knowledgeable about hair and products. The KBSS owners are being trained to act like they respect the customer and not to follow them around the store, to answer questions etc. I actually would continue shopping there if it weren't for the fact that they didn't unfairly monopolize the market by literally blocking and preventing black people to start and sustain businesses. This is compounded by the fact that we are the only ones funneling all of this money to them. That just does not sit right with me.
If it was a more fair market, I'd probably support the blk business a bit more, but I would have no qualms shopping there either.
If a black owned beauty supply store were to go to get supplies/hair etc. from Jinny or another similar Korean distributor, they would do shady things like:
1. Not sell products/not sell high demand products like hair
2. Sell products at higher prices
3. Ship products late
...among other unscrupulous practices.
That is why black owned stores may have little products and/or higher prices. Meanwhile, we're over here shopping at the KBBS because we may save a dollar. There is something wrong with that.
And honestly, I have encountered blk businesses that have bad customer service. I have encountered just as many businesses from other races that have crappy service as well. I have no problem with people shopping where ever they want. However, we should be aware of who and what our dollars are supporting, especially if the same business goes out to literally sabotage our economic prosperity.
If it was a more fair market, I'd probably support the blk business a bit more, but I would have no qualms shopping there either.
If a black owned beauty supply store were to go to get supplies/hair etc. from Jinny or another similar Korean distributor, they would do shady things like:
1. Not sell products/not sell high demand products like hair
2. Sell products at higher prices
3. Ship products late
...among other unscrupulous practices.
That is why black owned stores may have little products and/or higher prices. Meanwhile, we're over here shopping at the KBBS because we may save a dollar. There is something wrong with that.
And honestly, I have encountered blk businesses that have bad customer service. I have encountered just as many businesses from other races that have crappy service as well. I have no problem with people shopping where ever they want. However, we should be aware of who and what our dollars are supporting, especially if the same business goes out to literally sabotage our economic prosperity.
