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jewel, Aireen, @ lucia (and anyone else I missed who chimed in): Thanks for the thumbs up on this; it's enabling me to do zero manipulation (which is what my hair is crying for) without looking bananas when I go to work. Any no-no's when using reg. conditioner this way -- e.g., direct heat? leaving hair wet-tish for too long?

Jewell said:
rawsilk

I ALWAYS use regular conditioner as a leave-in. It does not harm your hair, and contrary to what a lot of black folks think, stylists are NOT know-it-alls or hair gurus...they are just that...stylists and people give them more credit than they deserve. Hair care surely isn't rocket science lol...its more trial and error for the individual than anything. I have used regular conditioner for years as a leave-in. Do what works for you and ignore ppl, especially if it works for you and they have never even tried it!
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LovingLady said:
mayoo


I was retwisting my hair over the weekend and I was having a difficult time detangling my hair. I do not have spilts but there are knots at the ends. My plan was to maintain twists until I get to waist length but now I am starting to think this may not be an option.

Could you please describe your detangling and twisting process?
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LovingLady being very careful.... I had the same idea about the twist but I went to take them down to co wash and I had knots and I had to cut some out and it really got on my nerves. I just put my hair back in a wash n go.

I did a henna treatment and when I was washing the henna out, you know how your hair is heavy at that time? I did a length ck at that time and I really like what I was feeling. it feels like it is mbl right now or hanging there.
 
LovingLady said:
@mayoo


I was retwisting my hair over the weekend and I was having a difficult time detangling my hair. I do not have spilts but there are knots at the ends. My plan was to maintain twists until I get to waist length but now I am starting to think this may not be an option.

Could you please describe your detangling and twisting process?
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LovingLady Sure! My detangling process usually starts with my old twist-out, the night before wash-day, I spend time gently separating each twist so that my hair is pretty detangled already and it won't cause too much breakage on wash-day.
Then on wash-day, I separate my hair into four sections, fully saturate with water and then apply soooo much conditioner and detangle with my fingers in relatively small sections. THis takes me about 50 minutes to an hour.

Then after deep conditioning, I pin the 4 sections up and start with some hair at the back. I then take enough hair for 1 twist and spray it with water before adding my leave-in. I then twist itt up and do that for my whole head.

I hope that was clear, I'm not very good at describing :-S

I used to have the same problem as you with the knots at the ends but after a good trim back in October, the problem hasnt returned.
Plus, at the time I was DCing with AOGPB and Giovanni Direct was my leave-in which was too much protein for my hair which caused it to tangle a lot for some reason.
Now I use AOWC which is very moisturising along with any leave-in really and I don't have that problem.
Is your hair getting enough moisture??
Hope this helps :)
 
Man, it took me 15 mins to log on to this app & and another 6 mins to get into this thread. Now I totally forgot what I was going to say. This App is tripping!!!!
 
I'm stopping @ HL for real this time. For real - for real. I'm simply going to keep it blunt at that length. If I grow any longer than that I am sure to have a major set back & have to cut it back to BSL. smh I have a tendency of prolonging my washes & allowing wonderful mat sessions to accumulate. :-/
 
pre_medicalrulz said:
I'm stopping @ HL for real this time. For real - for real. I'm simply going to keep it blunt at that length. If I grow any longer than that I am sure to have a major set back & have to cut it back to BSL. smh I have a tendency of prolonging my washes & allowing wonderful mat sessions to accumulate. :-/
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pre_medicalrulz you're not too far :yep: how are you planning to wear your hair @ HL?
 
Jewell said:
ckisland

Sorry to hear about your mishap with heat!! SMH that is why I don't even bother with direct heat...I might jack it up unintentionally. I can flat-iron nicely when needed, but as for a curling iron, I literally haven't used one since high school, and I'll be 30 this year.

Oh and yeah...keep in mind people with type 1A hair can often have (no offense) bull-ish regimens and grow to ridiculous lengths. Baby oil is mineral oil which blocks out moisture. On tightly curled hair like 4a/4b that is asking for a hair breakage and dryness disaster! You will be fine getting to HL so long as you continue to do what works for you and your hair! If it ain't broke, don't fix it!!
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I hadn't used a curling iron since about high school either, and I was struggling :blush:. And I learned early in my hair journey that copying every long haired person I see, is not going to work :lol: Though having my hair straightened and being able to take down my bun and go, or comb it whenever I like, has me feeling like I'm living the life:grin:.
 
I'm feeling a little lost now that I've decided not to cut my hair off. I feel like I need a game plan and a regi change. Not sure what I'll do yet.
I'm sitting here with FILTHY hair that I'm procrastinating on washing because I don't feel like DCing or styling it.
::sigh::

Just whining.
 
Thank you ladies for the advice.

Shadiyah, I have accepted that my hair is at the length where twist are no longer do-able without causing a setback or stalled retention.

I am thinking about trying henna but I need to do more research first. At this length I can not make any sudden moves.

mayoo, thank you for explaining your process to me. I am due for nice trim and I will try detangling before I get in the shower. I am planning to styling my hair with curlformers instead doing twist, hopefully this yields better results.

AOWC is my go to moisturizing conditioner, there is not one week that goes by without me using it. Thank you for reminding me, I need to buy more. :lol: I would like to have a back up moisturizing conditioner but nothing compares.
 
pre_medicalrulz said:
Oh crap! I'm scared to delete the app cause my phone hasn't let me download anything all this year. Stoopid metro.
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pre_medicalrulz. NOOOOOOO !!! Then dont do it!!!! I had no choice. My app wasnt working at all. I had to go to the internet and log in like I would on a pc to get on!!! I had no choice. But bayyybeeeyyy..... Do not. I REPEAT, NOT DELETE UR APP if ur phone wont let you download anything! Lol. I need to see your pics for inspiration!!!!
 
rririla said:
pre_medicalrulz. NOOOOOOO !!! Then dont do it!!!! I had no choice. My app wasnt working at all. I had to go to the internet and log in like I would on a pc to get on!!! I had no choice. But bayyybeeeyyy..... Do not. I REPEAT, NOT DELETE UR APP if ur phone wont let you download anything! Lol. I need to see your pics for inspiration!!!!
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LMBO!!!! XOXO ;)
 
rawsilk said:
jewel, Aireen, @ lucia (and anyone else I missed who chimed in): Thanks for the thumbs up on this; it's enabling me to do zero manipulation (which is what my hair is crying for) without looking bananas when I go to work. Any no-no's when using reg. conditioner this way -- e.g., direct heat? leaving hair wet-tish for too long?
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rawsilk

The only thing about heat is the obvious no flat ironing or straightening with conditioner in the hair bit steaming or heat cap baggying is one
 
I flat ironed last week and used Feye's method to trim. I need to trim more often to get my ends in better shape. I'm thinking 3-4 mini trims per year instead of 1. I just don't like to flat iron in the summer, LOL. Oh, and BC layers suck.



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Love seeing this thread on the first page every time I log in! Keep up with the updates ladies! <3
 
Trini_Chutney said:
I flat ironed last week and used Feye's method to trim. I need to trim more often to get my ends in better shape. I'm thinking 3-4 mini trims per year instead of 1. I just don't like to flat iron in the summer, LOL. Oh, and BC layers suck.
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Your hair looks really good and I think your ends look like they're in good shape:yep:. Don't fall into the scissor happy, perfect ends trap! Don't do it! :lol:
 
Last night I got up the courage to use an actual moisturizer on my hair. I used SSI Marshmallow Hair Cream and sealed with the Amazon Pomade. I could have used a little less, but I'm loving how moisturized and shiny my hair is again :grin:. Also, my hair still isn't poof although it's not as sleek as it was initially. Considering that I got caught briefly in the rain when I arrived back in GA, took a shower later on that day, and used a water based moisturizer, my hair is holding up really well :grin:.

It's been 10 days since I got my hair done, and I'm probably going to wait until week 3 hits to wash it :look:. If I don't push it back to 4 weeks, I'll wear my hair curly for a week or 2, then straighten again. I'm going to be moving out of town, so I'll need to learn how to straighten my hair myself. I'm both excited and scared. I feel like I'm starting an all new hair journey :blush:.
 
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So after 4 weeks I am finally washing my dirty scalp. Currently doing a protein treatment. My scalp feels so good!

Oh & I also noticed some strands in the middle of my head looking choppy. Most likely breakage because w/ a lot of NG it can become matted together quickly. Oh well. If it looks really bad by the time of my relaxer then I will just cut that section in layers.
 
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it's one of those days for me again so yes, this is yet another vent :lachen: my hair is getting on my effin nerves. I lost more than I have lately while detangling today :nono: I wish I could get a relaxer or texturizer but I never have so I'm scared. I'm daydreaming about relaxing at HL lol. I also might be wishful thinking because my hair hates everything and might just say **** you and fall out if i tried.. I wanna try it one one piece of my hair and see how it reacts..but if that piece gets f*cked then I will cry :look: I go into the relaxer threads in here a lot and I love the look of relaxed hair :ohwell: just ugghhhh my crazy a$$ hair refuses to not tangle for even a DAY! my hair can't deal with bs for even a second. i'm pissed at it right now lol. I have my good days as well :lol: but i just lose too much freakin hair it makes me sick :perplexed
 
melahnee said:
it's one of those days for me again so yes, this is yet another vent :lachen: my hair is getting on my effin nerves. I lost more than I have lately while detangling today :nono: I wish I could get a relaxer or texturizer but I never have so I'm scared. I'm daydreaming about relaxing at HL lol. I also might be wishful thinking because my hair hates everything and might just say **** you and fall out if i tried.. I wanna try it one one piece of my hair and see how it reacts..but if that piece gets f*cked then I will cry :look: I go into the relaxer threads in here a lot and I love the look of relaxed hair :ohwell: just ugghhhh my crazy a$$ hair refuses to not tangle for even a DAY! my hair can't deal with bs for even a second. i'm pissed at it right now lol. I have my good days as well :lol: but i just lose too much freakin hair it makes me sick :perplexed
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:hugs: sorry lady. I wish I can help you detangle your hair oh so gently. Hang on in there.
 
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