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Ok, I guess I don't get the drama. The pictures show women of various shades, not just dark. I get Walmart emails full of crazy looking, crazy dressed, crazy hairstyle wearing white people on the regular. I have also gotten ugly and crazy mugshot compilations of whites. Sometimes we have to pick our battles and this isn't even a battle to begin with. It is easy to feel sensitive and embarrassed because we think the masses are being judged by a misguided few. If I get lumped in with a crazy group cause of color, it is the person who is doing the generalizing that has the problem not me.

Some of the hairstyles were not bad, though let's keep it real most are just wacked. There is no creativity in an incomplete weave that shows tracks. Besides, each put themselves on front streat to be ridiculed when they chose to break the law. Mugshots are public record and are not meant to paint people in a flattering light.

These women just need to get their act together, period, regardless of race, hair style or skin color.

ETA: double standards go both ways. Would we be just as defensive if this were a bunch of White, Asian, Hispanic women mugshots with crazy weaves? Would we be speaking out about positive images, creative hairstyles, etc.? I think not. Stand up for one, stand up for all. Wrong is wrong no matter what group is involved.
 
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Reminds me of when Ricki Lake used to have that 'unbeweavable' competition for the most outrageous weaves ever. Once, a dove flew out from someone's weave!
 
For those concerned about the double standard, I went to the original site to see if it was only black females being featured. It's not. There are plenty mug shots of white women/ men with bad hairstyles as well. The original pics can be viewed at www.trutv.com. Or you can google "weave been arrested". If anyone here has ever watched TRU TV you know they are an equal opportunity 'clowner'. I do understand your concern and you are entitled to your opinion but I think this is not an attack on women of color in this case.
 
Prudent1 said:
For those concerned about the double standard, I went to the original site to see if it was only black females being featured. It's not. There are plenty mug shots of white women/ men with bad hairstyles as well. The original pics can be viewed at www.trutv.com. Or you can google "weave been arrested". If anyone here has ever watched TRU TV you know they are an equal opportunity 'clowner'. I do understand your concern and you are entitled to your opinion but I think this is not an attack on women of color in this case.
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Thanks Prudent1. I wasn't aware of the source when I first created this thread. I got this in an email and those were the only pics in the email.
 
I came in here for a laugh, but was a little surprised at the knee-jerk defensiveness from some posters. Self-esteem seems to be a serious issue among a few of you -- the fact that you can look at pictures of these women and assume it's an attack on you? These women have nothing to do with you, are criminals, and don't need to be defended.

I think it's sad that some women can look at these pictures and somehow turn it around so that they feel bad about themselves. Stuff like that needs to stop. Other people might lump us all together, and sure we don't have the most glowing stereotypes, but latching onto this defensive stance (Tacky weaves are apart of our heritage? Please.) is not the right way to do it.
 
Mandy4610 said:
No comment on the hair styles or the women wearing them.

I am just wondering though....Why are we making references to white women? This is a predominantly black forum and I would imagine that it would make sense for us to discuss mostly black women/men and their hair......Just a thought.
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Exactly! Y'all think white women don't post pix of ridiculous looking white women?? You should frequent more diverse boards then. I'm beginning to believe a number of you are spending too much time in this LHCF bubble. We aren't the only ones who make "say something nice threads".
 
ashiah said:
I came in here for a laugh, but was a little surprised at the knee-jerk defensiveness from some posters. Self-esteem seems to be a serious issue among a few of you -- the fact that you can look at pictures of these women and assume it's an attack on you? These women have nothing to do with you, are criminals, and don't need to be defended.

I think it's sad that some women can look at these pictures and somehow turn it around so that they feel bad about themselves. Stuff like that needs to stop. Other people might lump us all together, and sure we don't have the most glowing stereotypes, but latching onto this defensive stance (Tacky weaves are apart of our heritage? Please.) is not the right way to do it.
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It's truly an example of what happens when you ALLOW stereotypes to be a part of who you are. Tacky weaves are NOT part of our heritage!! Our foremothers would turn in the gotdamn graves if they knew they were being associated with this fukrey. Hair, be it on our heads or in our arm pits is part of the grooming process and that transcends all races. when your hair looks tacky YOU look tacky. I wish somebody would post another tacky behind weave on here expecting 100 million thanks.

Being addicted to the struggle is NOT cute or proactive. Not to mention the fact that these women were arrested for other crimes not their hair.
 
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Sigh... how did we go from funny weaves to racism and class issues? Why do things have to be so complicated?
 
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Lolz they must've arrested the first dude at the barber shop. Either that or he was trying to carve out the shape of California...fail. I actually like the third one though.

I do see plenty of things like this with white people looking crazy, and I personally am not afraid to say when a black person looks a HAM. But I still do understand the defensiveness of some people - not that I agree with it.


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Also folks need to remember odd hairstyles seen in African tribes are a reflection of their culture, history and story telling. I'm sorry but I doubt any of those homegirls in the original mug shot photos could give any credible reason for their hair. It's one thing to give them a pass for creativity but please don't try to lump these weaved wonders in with groups who have a reason, both social and spiritual, behind their flamboyant hair choices.
 
ashiah said:
I came in here for a laugh, but was a little surprised at the knee-jerk defensiveness from some posters. Self-esteem seems to be a serious issue among a few of you -- the fact that you can look at pictures of these women and assume it's an attack on you? These women have nothing to do with you, are criminals, and don't need to be defended.

I think it's sad that some women can look at these pictures and somehow turn it around so that they feel bad about themselves. Stuff like that needs to stop. Other people might lump us all together, and sure we don't have the most glowing stereotypes, but latching onto this defensive stance (Tacky weaves are apart of our heritage? Please.) is not the right way to do it.
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ashiah

Who was your self-esteem comment directed at? That was the first and only personal attack I read in this thread, though I'm not sure to whom it was directed.

May I also add the criminals, quite literally, DO need to be defended :-/ ...um, I'm sorry but as someone with a law degree I felt the need to point out the lack of logic in that statement. You may click on a link looking for laughs, but other posters have a right to respond however they see fit.

As far as the hairstyles, I respectfully disagree with those that are defending this type of mockery. Yes, I'm a professional and I can count the number of times I've worn a weave on one hand. It doesn't stop me from objectively identifying the social implications of such "jokes."




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grrrrrrl!! uhm yah. i got nothing.

well, i got a lot but it's pointless so let me just say this:

when someone defends a person or group and you (too many people to tag) come back and say "you're just saying that cuz you think you're one too" you'll likely be wrong and it's a shallow argument. i happen to be dark-skinned but grew up in the land of wood and water so don't have a lot of hang ups around that stuff. the fact that i found the images and captions disgusting has nothing to do w/ my own self-image (have you seen me? i'm totally striking! ;o)

anyhoo, sorry to interrupt your mirth w/ my awareness. as you were.
 
Solitude said:
ashiah

Who was your self-esteem comment directed at? That was the first and only personal attack I read in this thread, though I'm not sure to whom it was directed.
May I also add the criminals, quite literally, DO need to be defended :-/ ...um, I'm sorry but as someone with a law degree I felt the need to point out the lack of logic in that statement. You may click on a link looking for laughs, but other posters have a right to respond however they see fit.
As far as the hairstyles, I respectfully disagree with those that are defending this type of mockery. Yes, I'm a professional and I can count the number of times I've worn a weave on one hand. It doesn't stop me from objectively identifying the social implications of such "jokes."
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So where was all this concern and "compassion" in that Boris Kodjoe thread
about fat women? I don't understand how you can see this as a mockery, but
not recognize that in essence Boris was also making a mockery.
I also don't get the law degree comment. I don't feel they should be defended
either. Although my reasoning may be different. Can't say that a lack of logic is driving that thought process for me right now.
 
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Solitude said:
ashiah

Who was your self-esteem comment directed at? That was the first and only personal attack I read in this thread, though I'm not sure to whom it was directed.

May I also add the criminals, quite literally, DO need to be defended :-/ ...um, I'm sorry but as someone with a law degree I felt the need to point out the lack of logic in that statement. You may click on a link looking for laughs, but other posters have a right to respond however they see fit.

As far as the hairstyles, I respectfully disagree with those that are defending this type of mockery. Yes, I'm a professional and I can count the number of times I've worn a weave on one hand. It doesn't stop me from objectively identifying the social implications of such "jokes."
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I was addressing the handful of replies at the beginning of the thread that were immediately jumping into defensive mode. If you want to be offended, then be offended, but it's important to realize why we respond to certain things the way we do. Someone in the thread even referred to the women as "darkies." Where was the word "darkie" even mentioned in the post? Hell, not all of them are even dark! Whoever said that was simply projecting their own insecurities into something that had nothing to do with them. We can blame society but change starts with us.
 
^^darkie comment was me. just a few points of information. not gonna argue cuz it's pointless as i said before. just throwing some things out for clarification.

'darkie' is currently a term used in some parts of the english speaking caribbean. not necessarily negative in intention. just a term. i pulled it out because the comments under some of the dark-skinned women specifically appeared to be more about their overal look than specifically about their installs.

another piece of info along the same lines as what i said before: i'm not taking this personally; i don't feel targetted. i grew up in jamaica and now live in toronto. i've visited the states but never lived there. i do know tho that in canada and toronto specifically we don't have the same level of crime or ghettos or poverty or deep racism that exists in many parts of the US. all of those things exist here in spades of course, canada is not black utopia, but just not to the same degree as in the states. the reason i'm saying this is because it's as if it's incomprehensible that i could find this gross w/out feeling personally implicated. once again, check out profile pic; i've got great genes which gives me a healthy self-esteem (i'm a little vain, truth be told) and i've thankfully never lived in a place where my race or my shade were constantly harped on as i gather often happens in the states judging by the amt of press i see about those issues and the strong emphasis on slavery porn trotted out each feb (in jamaica we learnt about and celebrated our heroes. we learnt about our history but didn't dwell on slavery and how hard it is to be black. i find this emphasis in the states negative and appalling and counter-productive). all this to say that not everybody sees race or experiences race the way an AA does. personal offence is not the only reason to find laughing at these women unsavoury. so can y'all just find a better argument? you've done this one to death. dig deeper. or don't, whatever.

but i'ma cut the next person who says the objection is based on self-hatred or projection. i'd like to think i'd still have some level of political awareness and still capable of feeling grossed out at this if i was a white man. the fact that many of you don't find this at all problematic remains confusing. and then i remember this is a public forum. all we share is a vague interest in hair. so do you. laugh and carry on. hahahaha: that chick is poor and ugly. look at her hair. hahahaha. so funny.
 
ashiah said:
I came in here for a laugh, but was a little surprised at the knee-jerk defensiveness from some posters. Self-esteem seems to be a serious issue among a few of you -- the fact that you can look at pictures of these women and assume it's an attack on you? These women have nothing to do with you, are criminals, and don't need to be defended.

I think it's sad that some women can look at these pictures and somehow turn it around so that they feel bad about themselves. Stuff like that needs to stop. Other people might lump us all together, and sure we don't have the most glowing stereotypes, but latching onto this defensive stance (Tacky weaves are apart of our heritage? Please.) is not the right way to do it.
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likewtr4chklit said:
It's truly an example of what happens when you ALLOW stereotypes to be a part of who you are. Tacky weaves are NOT part of our heritage!! Our foremothers would turn in the gotdamn graves if they knew they were being associated with this fukrey. Hair, be it on our heads or in our arm pits is part of the grooming process and that transcends all races. when your hair looks tacky YOU look tacky. I wish somebody would post another tacky behind weave on here expecting 100 million thanks.

Being addicted to the struggle is NOT cute or proactive. Not to mention the fact that these women were arrested for other crimes not their hair.
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GraceV said:
Sigh... how did we go from funny weaves to racism and class issues? Why do things have to be so complicated?
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ITA. Is it Super Save-A-Quain Day or something:rolleyes: This board is getting rather ridiculous when it comes to playing the race card. I love my people (especially the sistas) but I'm not co-signing ratchetness and fukcery just because we have similar complexions :nono: Miss me with that.
 
@nzeee you're right, you are striking. :) i appreciate your perspective and agree that it's important to understand that people can have similar reactions to something and yet be coming from very different angles. although i don't share your opinion and i think some of the defensiveness is due to some people integrating stereotypes into their self-concept and racial identity (please don't cut me:look: ), I can definitely understand the egalitarian (?) angle that you're coming from :yep:
 
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