Women who alter their texture but still say they're natural.....

[Kinkyhairlady]

What do you ladies think about women who do this? Men do it as well but for the purpose of this forum let's discuss the ladies. I have no problem with folks texlaxing or what ever but when you are making your curls look looser and running around saying you got good hair I just give a major side eye to that. What is the big secret if you admit your texture is slightly altered. Smh at some folks, such a shame.

 

[janiebaby]

I think texlaxing is chemically altering your hair but I'm not going to have the coloring argument

 

[Trini_Chutney]

Oh goodness.

*waits*

 

[Rei]

personally I don't care what other women decide to call their own heads.

 

[adamson]

Maybe they have a good hair complex...? I don't know about that one, but I'd like to see what others have to say about it.

 

[Poohbear]

You also have to keep in mind that "natural" may mean something different to people who do not frequent online hair boards. Before I ever discovered hair boards or forums, I had relaxed hair and used to say my hair is all natural, meaning there were no weaves, no wigs, etc. So some people outside the online world may see natural hair as non-fake hair too.

 

[youwillrise]

edit:

i misunderstood post the first time.

 

[youwillrise]

you know what...i reread your post. i understood it wrong

so you did mean people who were chemically altered? lol. silly me.

you mean people who do like curly perms, jherri curls or texturizers and say they're natural?

 

[Kinkyhairlady]

I have to mention the texture is clearly altered cause the curls are much looser but the person denies using anything special so they are pretty much lying. What is the point? I just find it so funny like it's just hair. That person has commented several times that her family has good hair so I guess she wants to prove that it runs in the family.

 

[Kinkyhairlady]

you know what...i reread your post. i understood it wrong

so you did mean people who were chemically altered? lol. silly me.

you mean people who do like curly perms, jherri curls or texturizers and say they're natural?

Yes that is what i mean. They use those things to loosen the curl pattern to may a 3a or 3b from a type 4.

 

[MissErikaM]

Hmm... You can bust them out if you want but they will still go bout their business and keep calling it what they want.

 

[Chameleonchick]

It's annoying but I don't correct them its just not worth my time.

 

[fitnessmommy]

It seems like you run into a lot of people with colorism and hair texture issues. No bueno.

 

[mzteaze]

Not sure why there has to be a strict line in the sand about it, honestly. Either you use chemicals to manage the hair or not. *Kanye shrug*

 

[prettyinpurple]

Ahem...some real talk...

OP: You really need to stop being so invested in what other women are doing with their hair. Seriously. From your threads in OT, it just seems like you invest too much time wondering or asking women about their weaves, hair texture, etc. And then wonder why they go off on you. Please stop trying to get women to admit their hair is fake or altered and just let them be.

And hey, I guess that texturizer did give her that "good hair" lol

 

[Windsy]

"They use those things to loosen the curl pattern to may a 3a or 3b from a type 4."

I may be a little slow here; but can you go from 4 to 3a or 3b by telaxing?

wouldn't it be obvious?

 

[greenandchic]

I guess I really don't care that much what other people do to their hair. I care to a certain extent when it comes to my interest in hair, but if someone wants to claim "good hair" natural, so be it.

Natural means different things to different people. For instance, I never relaxed my hair, but I didn't consider myself natural because my hair was heat damaged and almost straight. I had to transition as if I had a relaxer. Some people would claim, that I was natural, but I didn't feel that I was.

 

[Cherokee-n-Black]

"They use those things to loosen the curl pattern to may a 3a or 3b from a type 4."

I may be a little slow here; but can you go from 4 to 3a or 3b by telaxing?

wouldn't it be obvious?

I think some people view "natural" as a style rather than a state of hair. That's why we're seeing so many afro textured wigs, ponies and weaves. It is a more natural look than stick straight hair, but I agree it's not natural. In my opinion, they're relaxed and wearing their hair air-dried, or they have a curly perm. I'm more interested in the women who are natural, but wear their hair under straight wigs and weaves. Yes, the hair is natural, but the person doesn't "wear your hair natural." (If transitioning and hiding hair temporarily for growth I don't really have an issue with it).

I guess it does solve the problem of not using harmful chemicals on your skin, but it does nothing to further the cause of promoting self-acceptance and natural black beauty.

 

[texasqt]

I think because the term "natural" has always been the antonym to "relaxed" all the newly popular methods such as texlaxing, heat training, BKTing, etc. are synonyms to "natural" because they are also (to some degree) antonyms to "relaxed." It just depends on how technical you want to get. But that's too much time and energy trying to figure out what's going on with someone else's head. If someone is claiming they were born with type 1,2,3 texture and was a type 5 last week then give them the side eye and keep it moving. That's their own personal issue and it doesn't have any bearing on your life.

ETA: I'm natural but I flat iron 90% of the time because I do have type 5 hair and I haven't figured out the best way to keep it that texture without losing most of it. I guess I should say I'm flat ironed? I just started heat training this week so I guess I should start saying heat trained. But I 've never lied and said my hair is naturally straight like my avatar. But IDK. Who cares? and ...

I just could resist!

 

[Whimsy]

What people choose to label themselves is their own business. I used to care. I used to want to help inform people.... But now....nah.

I can't let other people's hair practices/labels/ideas get to me.

People call themselves natural when in pics we can clearly see a line of demarcation, people call themselves _____length when we clearly see their heads bent back in their photos or their brastraps hiked up to the nape of their necks..... I cannot do anything but shrug and keep it moving.

 

[Kinkyhairlady]

Ahem...some real talk...

OP: You really need to stop being so invested in what other women are doing with their hair. Seriously. From your threads in OT, it just seems like you invest too much time wondering or asking women about their weaves, hair texture, etc. And then wonder why they go off on you. Please stop trying to get women to admit their hair is fake or altered and just let them be.

And hey, I guess that texturizer did give her that "good hair" lol

Actually that is opposite of what I do. I love different hairstyles and if I notice you have a new style I compliment it and ask how you got it that way. Now if you choose to lie then it's whatever, I'm not going to press you for an answer. I just find it kind of sad that people have to lie about such petty things like hair texture especially when it is obvious something has been used. Same goes for folks using growth aids, when you ask how they care for their hair they respond that it naturally grows fast but it is no biggie to me. I just find it kind if amusing because most folks already know you are full of bs.

 

[nappystorm]

I think I what OP means. Example:
NS and Random Chick talking about hair.
RC: Yeah, I'm natural too.
NS: Oh yeah? How do you get/keep your hair so straight? *Get ready to take notes*
RC: Well...um...I have a perm but I only let it stay on 5 minutes or so...
or
RC: Well I only perm once a year
NS: Oh okay.

Doesn't happen much on hair boards (although I remember a poster saying she doesn't considers herself relaxed because she don't wear her hair straighten ) but it's happened to me a few times IRL.

 

[Qualitee]

I could care less but I give the *side eye* everytime I hear a "heat trained natural" say they are natural.

 

[kittikat24]

I have friends who have never had a relaxer. So technically they're natural.
But they'll say, I'm going "natural " for the summer, meaning they won't press their hair or blowdry it.
Usually they'll press their hair after every wash, and so therefore consider their hair "pressed/straightened" not natural.

 

[Leeda.the.Paladin]

I once had a whole conversation with this lady who had a short 'do about her being natural, etc. I asked her what her routine was and she started with "Well, I put in a texturizer once a month.." I didn't say anything much after that but nodded my head politely.

I've found that a lot of people who consider themselves natural have some kind of chemical process going on. A big problem is that people don't think products like "texture softners" are relaxers, they think it's some kind of deep treatment or something. I know that sounds silly but I've run into it too much for it to not be a common line of thinking.

What do I think about it? I don't know. I'm not that concerned but I just wish they would stop confusing me

 

[mischka]

if youre texlaxed why not just admit youre texlaxed?

 

[LunadeMiel]

I've seen some pics of people (even on this board) who are clearly texlaxed but claim to be natural I just and KIM

 

[Lynnerie]

I think its real funny yet strange that women care so much about what other women do to their hair and what they refer to their hair as.

All this nonsense about changing the texture and still calling yourself natural is ridiculous and people got too much time on their hands.

ETA: I have had conversations where it was revealed that the person texturized their hair and still claimed natural. I think that IRL if the hair looks natural then they claim it. It used to bother me but now I could care less.

 

[Cherokee-n-Black]

What people choose to label themselves is their own business. I used to care. I used to want to help inform people.... But now....nah.

I can't let other people's hair practices/labels/ideas get to me.

People call themselves natural when in pics we can clearly see a line of demarcation, people call themselves _____length when we clearly see their heads bent back in their photos or their brastraps hiked up to the nape of their necks..... I cannot do anything but shrug and keep it moving.

This is so sad. I know I shouldn't laugh. Whatever floats one's boat I guess. Clearly I need to pay more attention to pics.

 

[Windsy]

Whimsy

can you post an example of this ("People call themselves natural when in pics we can clearly see a line of demarcation") if you can find one or go into more details.