"Should You Heat Train?" Video

[PPGbubbles]

So! My question is this:

Perms break down the proteins and causes the hair to go straight and heat training does the same thing...so perms damages the hair? My goal overall was to get to BSL in a year or two and then start to heat train. I don't want to use chemicals but I would like to keep my hair straightened. Sooo is the heat more damaging then the relaxer or is it about the same sort of damage and can't heat trained hair be healthy too?

Jenko hey hun

If you want real advice this may not be the thread for you! we are in here cutting up

you may wanna direct that question to the actual heat training support thread. You will find a wealth of info on the topic and get a better answer
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?t=522931&highlight=heat+training+support

 

[DDTexlaxed]

So! My question is this:

Perms break down the proteins and causes the hair to go straight and heat training does the same thing...so perms damages the hair? My goal overall was to get to BSL in a year or two and then start to heat train. I don't want to use chemicals but I would like to keep my hair straightened. Sooo is the heat more damaging then the relaxer or is it about the same sort of damage and can't heat trained hair be healthy too?[/QUOT

Relaxed hair can be healthy too. There are a lot of relaxed ladies on LHCF with long healthy hair.

 

[ashleymichelle1]

I'm late on this but I just wanna say when my hair is wet it looks just like chimes hair when wet. I claim 4a...I have a couple different textures..There are a couple sections of my hair that have no shrinkage and looks exactly like hers! She is def not 3c. Her hair is very thick, long & heavy thus the reason she doesn't have much shrinkage..I don't see whats so confusing about that. When I do twist-outs my hair looks alot like hers..

I think maybe we should all just abandon this whole hair type thing all together cause its pretty annoying.

 

[brittanynic16]

I'm breaking my silence...

I agree too. She seems to have high frizz/kinky hair, that is afro textured, which throws people off. Last I checked, Andre's system was based on curl size and not how coarse or fine someone's hair is. Her curl pattern is bigger or about as big as the size of a pen, therefore that would place her in the type 3 category...the kinks/frizz+coarseness of her hair strands seems to make typing her hair difficult.

And my beliefs has nothing to do with me believing that she is not fully black or anything like that . I just believe that her curl size is larger than what is classified as type 4 hair. Tis all....

That's all I gotta say

*goes back to lurk*

I sure coulda used ya'll like 20 pages back when I said the same thing and people were acting all kinda crazy because I don’t see 4a/b. I am glad I am not the only one who thought this. Why can a 4 have so many variations but other types cannot?

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[iri9109]

alot of ppl are typing her hair based on how her it looks stretched from braidouts/twistouts or hair that is wet after being in a stretched state for a while...if you're going by her videos, she never shows her hair unmanipulated/unstretched when dry...then when the pic of her dry, unmanipulated, unstretched hair was posted and it was clear she was in the 4's people either ignored it or tried to excuse it...some of yall will never be satisfied.

 

[HE_Blesses_MY_Tresses]

Jenko
Relaxers affect entirely different bonds. It affects the disulfide bonds and thermal styling affects the salt bonds. The disulfide bond accounts for 1/3 of the hairs strength just like the salt bond but is much stronger. This bond is what is effected when you perm, reform the curl (jheri curl) or relax. When you break the disulfide bonds, there is absolutely no way to repair them which is when you get overprocessing and breakage. This is why it it is so important not to overlap previous relaxed sections because each time you put the relaxer on, it breaks down the disulfide bond and once the peptide bind is broken, *snap* there goes your hair. This is not to sat that relaxed hair cannot be healthy because it can, but the relaxer has to be properly applied and I think any relaxed head on this forum will tell you that it's nit as easy as relaxing your hair and forgetting about it, you have to care for it properly. I explained the way thermal styling affects the hair before. Each has it's own risks and requirements as far as care but I suggest you read the relaxed ladies thread and the heat training supporters thread and weigh your options as far as which is right for you.... HTH...

 

[Solitude]

This is so so true....it's the main reason I stopped wasting my time trying to "help" in the hair section.

Pokahontas

Sadly, that us true, but you are still a hair inspiration! Your fotki was one of the first ones I stalked.

Ms Lala's hair is amazing, too. Your YouTube channel is what made me start thinking about going natural.


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[Boujoichic]

I always thought 3b hair looked like this when it's dry.

I'm not seeing that in her dry hair pics.

i agree... this looks like 3b/3c

I would call that 3a, maybe even 2c

^^^This. Everyone sees the same pic but they are typing it differently... by the way type 2 hair is wavy this ladies hair clearly curls. We are way OT but seeing as chimes hair is growing out of her head seems she would know it best she can go right ahead and call it 4a/4b

 

[Boujoichic]

LOL no...in my personal experience, what happens when I rinse my hair after a twist out is that the curl pattern stays looser (even with a shampoo + condition) for a couple a days as it takes my curls a bit to find each other once again and revert back to their natural state. It isn't a big deal, but taking a picture of your hair as soon as you rinse a twist out most likely (this is not true for everyone) is not going to resemble your true texture, as you have manipulated your hair and it's been in that state for a number of days. If you stopped doing twist outs, your hair would no longer take on this appearance.

Regardless, her hair is lovely and it should be left at that. All this type hoo-hah and gobbly gook is for the birds. IMO, of course.

My hair does this as well after a twist out or even a bun It can sometimes take a few days for my curls to bounce back. Also If i put product on my edges and tie them down with a scarf like she does they lay straight which they are not so her edges are no indicator. People tend to get all up in arms about hair type which is also why I leave it alone now.

 

[Boujoichic]

I hate to do it but...here is a picture of another washing and go taken around the same time as the first. The caption is below.

I actually did a wash and go! I never thought I would, but this particular day I had no leave-in conditioner to detangle my hair with. I never detangle without tons of conditioner. To my surprise, it wasn't hard to detangle a couple of days after that.

Im sorry but if this is a wash and go why is there is still a twist on the front left side of her head that had me cracking up

 

[carameldimples]

Well alrighty then....I've read all 22 pages (today is my second 12 hour shift so I had time on my hands, LOL) Anyhoo IDK what Chime's hair type is (blawgeous=black+gorgeous) and sorry I don't know if YOU should heat train, (hell... I guess... if really want to), but I do know that yall are some sharp-tongue quick witted heifers(don't take that personal please ) up in here! I have laughed out loud on several occasions, but the stand out witty comment was the "Stewing in Mortons" LMBO




And back to lurking I go.......

 

[davisbr88]

Im sorry but if this is a wash and go why is there is still a twist on the front left side of her head that had me cracking up

Oh snap... I didn't even see that!
Perpetrating, perhaps?

 

[iri9109]

Im sorry but if this is a wash and go why is there is still a twist on the front left side of her head that had me cracking up

Oh snap... I didn't even see that!
Perpetrating, perhaps?

maybe she had twists in before she washed her hair and missed one in the process...or maybe she put it there for style lol...i dont think she would lie, esp since her fotki is full of twistouts, its not like we havent seen her hair in a twistout before.

 

[princessnad]

After all this back and forth, you have to agree she has a unique hair type. Her hair is cottony and puffy like any type 4 but the size of her waves (not even curls) and her lack of shrinkage is more in the type 2-3 range.

If we take the classic curl typing definition which is just based on size of curls, she would not be a 4 but if we take into account her texture then it gets more complex. I don't really see the point in arguing about it though.

 

[princessnad]

Im sorry but if this is a wash and go why is there is still a twist on the front left side of her head that had me cracking up

What? people can't put a twist in their wash and go? I didn't know about that strict definition.

 

[cherryhair123]

But what's interesting in her hair journey video when she has below waist hair she talks about pressing it on the regular-was it heat-trained then-looked pretty healthy too.

 

[MyInvisibleChyrsalis]

does anybody know...aw geez...why do I even care...but does anybody know if she colors her hair? Permanent color can alter the curl pattern.

 

[Boujoichic]

maybe she had twists in before she washed her hair and missed one in the process...or maybe she put it there for style lol...i dont think she would lie, esp since her fotki is full of twistouts, its not like we havent seen her hair in a twistout before.

Oh no I didnt mean she was lying the original poster of the pic was saying that this was a wash and go and thus proves her hair isnt type 4 etc. but I think the pic they posted is just possibly mislabeled.

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1tufujnbzU&feature=player_embedded

she got huurr basket basket basket basket basket

 

[Boujoichic]

What? people can't put a twist in their wash and go? I didn't know about that strict definition.

Whoa now People can do whatever to their wash and go that they want. I never said I thought she was lying someone else posted that pic saying it was a WNG and I was thinking it could be mislabeled as a wash and go because of the presence of the twist. ok Im done with this thread *exits to change stinky diaper*

 

[keenyme]

Im sorry but if this is a wash and go why is there is still a twist on the front left side of her head that had me cracking up

i thought i was the only one who noticed that

 

[Embyra]

I for one am tired of seeing 3s trying to slide into the 4s and 4z's trying to convince others that they are 3cs. Aint no gel or wet twistout in the world that can do that.

 

[Junebug D]

Im sorry but if this is a wash and go why is there is still a twist on the front left side of her head that had me cracking up

After all this back and forth, you have to agree she has a unique hair type. Her hair is cottony and puffy like any type 4 but the size of her waves (not even curls) and her lack of shrinkage is more in the type 2-3 range.

If we take the classic curl typing definition which is just based on size of curls, she would not be a 4 but if we take into account her texture then it gets more complex. I don't really see the point in arguing about it though.

Hold up... THIS is what y'all are arguing about? Unless this is a twist-out or braid-out, this girl isn't a type 4 anything. Look at the size of curls. It's clearly type 3. It's dense and frizzy as heck, but it's clearly type 3. *Mouth agape that people think this is type 4* I've said it many times before on here, but a lot of folks are REALLY gonna be in shock when their hair grows up.

 

[Lucie]

WOW! I love her hair. I think we might be hair twins although I am not totally sure. I think she is more a 4a than 4b. I used to type myself as a 4a/4b as well but think I am more of a 4a.

 

[~Sparklingflame~]

I hate to do it but...here is a picture of another washing and go taken around the same time as the first. The caption is below.

I actually did a wash and go! I never thought I would, but this particular day I had no leave-in conditioner to detangle my hair with. I never detangle without tons of conditioner. To my surprise, it wasn't hard to detangle a couple of days after that.

So ummm...that means shes a regla nappy haid like the rest of us 4's?

 

[EllePixie]

LOL at eeeerybody who came in all late and clearly didn't read the thread, posting pics that have already been posted and discussed, and counter"argument" pics were posted. CP time at it's best on the last day of the world!!!

 

[ladyviper]

I'm going to sue your for this!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1tufujnbzU&feature=player_embedded

she got huurr basket basket basket basket basket

 

[GraciousMystique]

She has Afro textured hair. Can we all agree with that?

 

[empressri]

23 pages of....insanity is the best word I can come up with. Only on LHCF!!!!

 

[CrueltyFree]