"Should You Heat Train?" Video

[Ms Lala]

My hair must not be long enough. Cuz ain't nobody ever in their everlovin days said I was not type 4. I can't even get a 4a up in this piece! I'm working on it, though. Just a few more inches and I'll be a type 3!

Eh, that's her opinion, that's fine, not the first time we've heard it. I agree it's damage, technically speaking. But if someone's hair is not breaking off and still looks good, what does it matter? Hair is dead, and it's decoration for you to do what you want to with. Yeah, I know all the political implications and the thoughts associated with longer less kinky hair love, and don't really disagree, just saying about the "damage" part, who cares?

And why do I keep imagining her screen name as "chee-may"? duh, "chime" is a normal word in English. Her hair is gorgeous, in any case.

Same here, my hair is waist length and I have never been typed as anything but a 4. Actually it seems like the longer my hair gets the more it shrinks up ( I think it's because I use heat less). Whatever the ladies texture her hair is beautiful. What is this thread about anyway?

 

[Geminigirl]

Y is this thread so long?

Sent from my MB200 using Long Hair Care Forum App

lol right? Usualny that is an indication that it is going down so hurry and catche up before it poofs. I am starting from the end.

Droid typing leads to typos for me

 

[theAlist]

I know I'm late but this is moptopmaven and this does not look like heat damage to me. I think she was at one point when she was posting on this site but that was way back in 2006. This is a recent pic

here it is straight

 

[bride91501]

That chile right there is too fly on too many levels....and a sweetheart to boot. I hope she's doing better healthwise.

 

[EllePixie]

KiKi Homemaker I don't know about MPM's hair or if she had/has heat damage, but that style looks like a twist out, and you can easily mask heat damaged with twist outs and braid outs. That's why a lot of women don't cut out their damage, they just grow it out.

Love her outfit and hair though...A+

 

[theAlist]

^^^Ok I see. When I think of heat damage I think of hair that doesn't "do" anything. It won't curl and it sticks straight. Her hair still seems pretty healthy to me, but I see what you are saying about being able to mask the damage with braid/twist outs.

 

[Embyra]

moptopmaven has been asked lots of times on her yt vids why her ends are straight and is she growing out a relaxer ....her ends are straight from heat damage didnt stop me from stalking her fotki though

 

[DDTexlaxed]

I thought this thread is supposed to be about heat trained hair. How the heck did it become the battle of the textures?

 

[Embyra]

Lord have mercy... what was this thread about again?

the titty discussion was fun

 

[pookaloo83]

http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?p=9719496#post9719496

 

[Napp]

Well i cant say im surprised this thread ended up like this.

People will believe what they want to believe....

 

[MsLi@512]

Ummm does he have a perm there? What is that on his head?

he heat trained

 

[ebonylocs]

Also can I ask why suddenly being a type 3 is an insult? I mean, whether she is 3 or 4, its still kinky and not as easy to manage as say, a type 1. isn't that what this board is about?

damn people act like being called a type 3 is a death sentence

Rei: It's been like that around these parts for a couple of years. Type 4 is the hairboard version of "street cred". If you want to be *down*, be able to take credit for using hard work to grow out your hair, and be able to give tips that most others will accept as relevant, then you gotta be a 4, baby.

it just seems kind of funny to me that she is telling others how to help a problem that she likely does not have (or at least have as bad).

That's my thing with Chime, I will look at her videos and photos to gawk at her hair. If she has some nice styles, I might try and copy one or two. However, if she is going to give me tips on how to grow my hair long, or how not to have shrinkage, I will be taking it with more than two grains of salt. Like I said in another thread, her hair and my hair are two completely different species. And it's not because I think she's a type 3 - I think her hair has some type 4 characteristics and some type 3 characteristics. But it's because her hair is so dang strong - she had waist length hair when she was a teenager with pressed hair! Without doing anything special! She has some thick-azzz strands that do not break or shrink. Whereas, while I have a zillion strands, they are super fine, super fragile, and super-shrinkalicious.

I'm confused.

It looks to me as if Chime is a natural militant, but isn't she the same girl that was using relaxer for her edges at one point while being natural??

She relaxed her edges while transitioning.

 

[Noir]

Wow this thread is very extra.

 

[SerenavanderWoodsen]

Hmm, her hair is puzzling to me. Her curl pattern seems looser than a 3b even but her texture looks like a 4a/4b. I'm confused :scratchch. My hair is 3b and has tighter curls than hers (i think?) but the texture of my hair is frizzy but silky. Her hair seems to have a 3a curl pattern but the texture looks coarser or rougher than a typical 3a. I guess it's hard to type hair that is unusual like hers....

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

Hmm, her hair is puzzling to me. Her curl pattern seems looser than a 3b even but her texture looks like a 4a/4b. I'm confused :scractch. My hair is 3b and has tighter curls than hers (i think?) but the texture of my hair is frizzy but silky. Her hair seems to have a 3a curl pattern but the texture looks coarser or rougher than a typical 3a. I guess it's hard to type hair that is unusual like hers....

i agree with you! I think that's the beauty of black Folk!!!

BLAWESOME THEY SAID! fuuggin black & awesome:Copy of 2cool::Copy of 2cool:

 

[Newbie2Beauty]

Sorry to hijack but real quick tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT Guuuurl you got me ova hear watching this Chris Crocker video. I have never heard of him and am crackin up!! So my son (5) walks in and sees me crackin up, looks at the screen, pauses for a minute, and says "mommy why does she sound like a boy if she is a girl?" He has got this seriously confused look on his face. I am rollin. Kids are so cute!

 

[UrbainChic]

According to this hair chart I am a type 2b or 2c. My hair doesn't really curl, except for a few spots but it changes directions way too many times to be called wavy hair.

Why can't we just accept that there is a lot of variety in textured hair? There is not just any simple category of hair, theres density, texture curl/wave pattern. Why does everyone have to get all extra just because this girls hair is gorgeous?

 

[SerenavanderWoodsen]

According to this hair chart I am a type 2b or 2c. My hair doesn't really curl, except for a few spots but it changes directions way too many times to be called wavy hair.

Why can't we just accept that there is a lot of variety in textured hair? There is not just any simple category of hair, theres density, texture curl/wave pattern. Why does everyone have to get all extra just because this girls hair is gorgeous?

Exactly. Not everyone's hair is going to fit into this little hair typing system. It's that simple.

 

[Vshanell]

@Rei: It's been like that around these parts for a couple of years. Type 4 is the hairboard version of "street cred". If you want to be *down*, be able to take credit for using hard work to grow out your hair, and be able to give tips that most others will accept as relevant, then you gotta be a 4, baby.


That's my thing with Chime, I will look at her videos and photos to gawk at her hair. If she has some nice styles, I might try and copy one or two. However, if she is going to give me tips on how to grow my hair long, or how not to have shrinkage, I will be taking it with more than two grains of salt. Like I said in another thread, her hair and my hair are two completely different species. And it's not because I think she's a type 3 - I think her hair has some type 4 characteristics and some type 3 characteristics. But it's because her hair is so dang strong - she had waist length hair when she was a teenager with pressed hair! Without doing anything special! She has some thick-azzz strands that do not break or shrink. Whereas, while I have a zillion strands, they are super fine, super fragile, and super-shrinkalicious.


She relaxed her edges while transitioning.

This is so so true....it's the main reason I stopped wasting my time trying to "help" in the hair section.

 

[LovelyNaps26]

if i see one more extra "dramatical" thread on LHCF this week...

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

if i see one more extra "dramatical" thread on LHCF this week...

yeah... but aaaaaahhh SHOULD I HEAT TRAIN?

 

[Geminigirl]

lmao at dramatical, do you know some people really think that is a word? I blame flav.

Droid typing leads to typos for me

 

[tHENATuRALhAiRpRoJEcT]

recap: Leobody hair.. naaaaah, she ain't black fo' real, sho' me some REEEEEEEEEAL black hair (sucks teeth)

kImmTube (real black hair).......paaaaaleeeeeeez, guuurl did u see those curls? *insert eyerolls* that ain't no 4b curl, that's definitely a 3c..... that's why it's so easy to retain that type of length all smizing at the camera & shyyyte cuz she ain't got REAL fo-B problems..... show me a fo-B with that 1000% retention

insert Chime... chile please! 4a/4b where da curls at? if it doesn't fit you must acquit
cuz her shyyyyyte don't even roll up like mine! Fo-a/Fo-B huuurrrr shrank up to our chin.....naaaaw son that's bout a 2e she wuurkin wit, her 4 ain't nothin like my 4 her shyyyyte all straight like Leobody , see dis right huuurr Y i don't ride for that Andre Walker nicccc; he on all types of buulllshiiiiii toumbout she a type Fo' when her shyyyyyte don't even crease fa-real-do, let alone fold up like like a real 4' G.....my shyyyte alll tight like a jersey fist pump, ********* son cuz if she a type fo' N-ni-Thang then i must be a 9 up in this piece

j/k.com

 

[Napp]

I dont understand why this thread blew up like this...we have had threads on her hair and videos before but they remained somewhat civil with everyone agreeing to disagree and leaving it there but like someone else said BOTH sides were a bit extra but since only one side is "right" and "logical" being extra is justified in that case....

what i dont like is when one side doesnt even try to see where the other is coming from which is what i feel like happened in this thread.it is just written off as ignorant and dismissed as being jealous or this new term "burning"


Back to the video. I watched it again because i just could not get over the "heat training is not real"

i think that her word choice was very poor. I feel like she is just spouting off whatever she feels to be true (which is not wrong in of itself) in her videos.

its fine if it was just about what she does with her hair but when you start talking about practices that others do, that you don't, and really do not know about,disregarding positive experiences that one may have through this practice,only highlighting the negative and then adding some absolutist "you shouldn't want your hair straight anyway" talk how are people not supposed to have a counter argument??

then she said just not to do it and tell everyone else not do it. there is no mention of research or looking for alternatives. its a very strong opinion and im sure she had strong counter opinions.She probably disabled the comments because she wasnt able to/didnt want to handle the backlash.

just my two cents because i didnt get to post when this thread was blazin hot.(i needz my beauty sleep!)

 

[PPGbubbles]

yall still at it up in here?

 

[Ms. Martina]

Hmm, her hair is puzzling to me. Her curl pattern seems looser than a 3b even but her texture looks like a 4a/4b. I'm confused :scratchch. My hair is 3b and has tighter curls than hers (i think?) but the texture of my hair is frizzy but silky. Her hair seems to have a 3a curl pattern but the texture looks coarser or rougher than a typical 3a. I guess it's hard to type hair that is unusual like hers....

This is what I think too. Her hair looks like a frizzy and coarse 3b to me. If we are going by curl size, she is clearly nowhere near the 4 family. And just incase anyone is curious, her length has nothing to do with my opinion. If she had neck length hair with those SAME curls, I would still place her in the 3b category. I just don't see the type 4 hair...

 

[ms-gg]

This is what I think too. Her hair looks like a frizzy and coarse 3b to me. If we are going by curl size, she is clearly nowhere near the 4 family. And just incase anyone is curious, her length has nothing to do with my opinion. If she had neck length hair with those SAME curls, I would still place her in the 3b category. I just don't see the type 4 hair...

I'm breaking my silence...

I agree too. She seems to have high frizz/kinky hair, that is afro textured, which throws people off. Last I checked, Andre's system was based on curl size and not how coarse or fine someone's hair is. Her curl pattern is bigger or about as big as the size of a pen, therefore that would place her in the type 3 category...the kinks/frizz+coarseness of her hair strands seems to make typing her hair difficult.

And my beliefs has nothing to do with me believing that she is not fully black or anything like that . I just believe that her curl size is larger than what is classified as type 4 hair. Tis all....

That's all I gotta say

*goes back to lurk*

 

[Vshanell]

I'm breaking my silence...

I agree too. She seems to have high frizz/kinky hair, that is afro textured, which throws people off. Last I checked, Andre's system was based on curl size and not how coarse or fine someone's hair is. Her curl pattern is bigger or about as big as the size of a pen, therefore that would place her in the type 3 category...the kinks/frizz+coarseness of her hair strands seems to make typing her hair difficult.

And my beliefs has nothing to do with me believing that she is not fully black or anything like that . I just believe that her curl size is larger than what is classified as type 4 hair. Tis all....

That's all I gotta say

*goes back to lurk*

I agree. There was an old thread here about highly textured 2's and 3's that i think would explain a lot but i have no idea where it is.

ETA....I do remember this pic from the thread. She's a highly textured type 2

This is just an example....I'm not saying this is Chime's hair.

 

[Jenko]

So! My question is this:

Perms break down the proteins and causes the hair to go straight and heat training does the same thing...so perms damages the hair? My goal overall was to get to BSL in a year or two and then start to heat train. I don't want to use chemicals but I would like to keep my hair straightened. Sooo is the heat more damaging then the relaxer or is it about the same sort of damage and can't heat trained hair be healthy too?