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Priss Pot said:
I would think that the texture change would have something to do with the rate of water saturation as well. My post was not with the intent of throwing any shade against you, but I just thought that some of these statements came off as very "matter of fact." The braid-train and water-train declarations that others made really threw me for a loop. This forum has many lurkers and people who are new to the hair game and very impressionable, so we really have to be careful with how we spread information. Simply braiding or adding water to the hair does not permanently loosen your hair texture. Your explanation makes more sense.
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I agree with the bolded, and became aware of that when someone was asking for a regi on how to do this...at that point, I took a step back, because I'm not trying to have a multitude of women religiously twist their hair and then wonder why their texture is not getting any looser.
 
I'm confused.

It looks to me as if Chime is a natural militant, but isn't she the same girl that was using relaxer for her edges at one point while being natural??
 
EllePixie said:
I agree with the bolded, and became aware of that when someone was asking for a regi on how to do this...at that point, I took a step back, because I'm not trying to have a multitude of women religiously twist their hair and then wonder why their texture is not getting any looser.
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I could see that happening with the way some of the posts were going.
 
HE_Blesses_MY_Tresses said:
I agree with her, but that's just MY opinion. To me, when I was flatironing my natural hair too much, and I can see the curl loosen, some may say it was "heat trained" but it was damaged to me. It was still a decent length and growing but the curl was lost. My sister has a full head of heat trained hair and to me, it feels stringy, not much different than a relaxer when wet. When she was talking about the breaking down of the bonds, she was on target. When you thermal style and color your hair, you are manipulating the salt bond and continually breaking them down at high temperatures will break the bond permanently and the salt bond is responsible for 1/3 of the hairs overall strength. So if someone chooses to do that for whatever reason, they need to make sure they are super nice and careful to moisturize and protien on a regular basis. I think her hair is gorgeous and I wish my hair looked as full as hers, you can hide all up in there! She shaved part of her head, which was pretty ballsy IMO, I know I couldn't do it. If she updates during the growing out phase, then I guess those requiring proof that her hair is a certain texture before claiming to be 4a-b shall see if it's the weight causing her hair to look to some like a different texture, not that it should matter.

Side Note: I wonder what would have happened if she would have claimed 3b-c hair, I think she may have been stoned for it not being silky or having strongly defined curls. The girl can't win. Can't we just celebrate her long hair, I mean this IS the LONG HAIR CARE FORUM.
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True, true. If I followed the popular system of hair typing (which I don't), I would say that her hair has characteristics of type 4 and type 3(maybe even type 2). I've seen people on here get confused by cottony 3s and silky type 4s, so it's understandable that people are perplexed by hair that lacks traits typically associated with/defined as belonging to another type. In the previous, less contentious haircrush threads, a number of people have said that her hair is "type: magical" or something along those lines, which seems to show it's more about the novelty of her hair and less about trying to attack her.

As with other YT gurus, when you start making prescriptions and proscriptions about other people's hair and haircare practices based on your own limited experience and flawed assumptions, you set the tone for the conversation to veer from the usual "wow, awesome long hair", "that twistout is banging", etc.
 
Priss Pot said:
I'm sorry, but since when do twist/braid-outs have the same affect as heat damage?

I've been consistently wearing my hair in braid-outs for the last few months and every time I wash, my hair reverts back to it's original pattern. Yesterday I co-washed and decided to do a wash 'n go using KCCC and my hair is still kinky.

The only way I can see someone's texture not fully returning would be if they had a lot of product in place holding that twist/braid-out together, and when they rinsed the hair, all of the product wasn't removed; thus still leaving weighted product on the hair.

But alas, everyone's hair is different I guess. I just have to raise an eyebrow to this texture-change info being passed around.
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I'm kind of wondering at this too...I've seen people's hair (mine included) become smoother and straighter if braided for long periods of time or if continually brushed into a ponytail, (even after washing) but afaik a good protein treatment and a wash without elongating the curl and that hair will spring back up. It might be different strokes for different folks though.
 
Rei said:
I'm kind of wondering at this too...I've seen people's hair (mine included) become smoother and straighter if braided for long periods of time or if continually brushed into a ponytail, (even after washing) but afaik a good protein treatment and a wash without elongating the curl and that hair will spring back up. It might be different strokes for different folks though.
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Yea after wearing mine straight for 3 weeks when I finally wet it I get scared because it's straight but as soon as I douse some shampoo on it that's all she wrote. It springs back up with the quickness and I'm happy.
 
DrC said:
I'm confused.

It looks to me as if Chime is a natural militant, but isn't she the same girl that was using relaxer for her edges at one point while being natural??
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See now, you really trying to start the apocalypse for May 21.
 
I looked at her hair journey vid. All I can say is that is no type 4
anything hair I've ever seen. I don't see any evidence of type 4 in her hair. It looks like a non-product laden 3c to me. Hands down, though, her hair is beautiful. I can't believe half of it (well at least 1/4 - 1/3 of it is shaved and she still has enough for two people! More power to her!
 
not me Elle... i did my time in the who gone check me boo thread
not me... i'm only good for the occasional "lol's" or ":lachen:"
and every now an then a ":rofl::rofl:" ...and a whole lot of ":look: 's"

tis all
 
bride91501 said:
The answer, my dear @mwedzi, is that you CLEARLY have been hanging around too many Nigerians, probably of the Igbo variety :lol::lachen:
For all those unfamiliar.....Chi = God (in Igbo).... I do the same thing whenever I see an unfamiliar English word or name beginning with "Chi" :lol:
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bride91501 It makes sense. :lol: I have spent a lot of time in the last year working with lots of Africans, including Nigerians. Also, in Bantu languages, "chi-" is a common prefix (class 7). I guess I just got stuck in that mindset. :giggle:


EllePixie said:
LOL, my bad @mwedzi - to clarify, I was referring more to women who fall under either 4a or 4a with dashes of 4b, a la the KT fiasco and now Chime. Both these ladies refer to themselves as type 4s, can't we just leave it at that, and that they have nice hair?
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I can be cool with that. :yep:
 
This thread is still going in circles?

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