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i see your point EllePixiebut i noticed your hair looking 3b anyway you wouldnt understand this a 4 thang:giggle:....sorry i been at the red wine tonight:blush:

Embrya Guh (girl) I know that wine has gotten to you because you are talking pure foolery now! But if you're serious that's why I think hair typing is weak sauce. Five different people can look at the same head of hair and call it three different types. I stopped trying to type my hair long ago because I got so many different answers...and I have most certainly been called a type 4.

*Breaks out white wine*
 
her hair doesnt curl up like you would normally see...her ends dont even spiral up.



its not a hard strech to see that it doesnt look like your average 4a curl pattern which looks like this
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Thank you! Yes, I think she is a 3b. I don't think anything is wrong with that. I just don't think she falls in that 4a/b category.

I've have seen plenty 4A twistouts and braidouts on youtube and I have never seen it look like hers #imjustsaying
 
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Y'all know you can "wet-train" your hair too, right? The top half of my hair has hardly any shrinkage now.

now dont go saying that all willy nilly! you will get peeps scurred to wash their hair in fear of loosening their curls:look:
 
Whatchu mean? at @nappystorm

now dont go saying that all willy nilly! you will get peeps scurred to wash their hair in fear of loosening their curls:look:

When my shrunken hair reached my shoulders, I started wearing it in low wet buns 80-90% of the time. Now I can't get the perimeter of my hair to shrink for sh!t. I got that Jaden Smith floppy fro action happening now :sad: I ended up cutting layers in the top to get it back right.
 
But she's not a 3C/4A. She is a 4A/B.
But you said she was a 3B :lol: But I'm telling you, that texture is due to those twist-outs. I came home a year or two ago and saw her on a local commercial and said, "Oh, she's rocking twist-outs now".

I didn't know her personally but I come from a small town and "*****'s little sister" was infamous for that WL hair. I used to drool over that hair in the "backpack" days.
 
And based on the pics, she's a natural 4a/4b with no chemicals or heat?

Or heat?

Or heat?

Call me ignant, but I have no clue on how to get my braid outs or twists outs to lay like that. Not never. My hair naturally grows out and up, not out and down.

I'm not trying to be funny -- someone please show a 4b the way cuz my shrinkage is out of control and all the scarves and braiding while wet in the world ain't 'gon get [ME] the results she has.

Imma need: a list of products, tools, and techniques.

TIA!!
 
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I completely disagree with her POV. I still am stunned on this idea that you aren't natural if you use heat to straiten your hair. When I was younger, I never wore my natural texture. My mom hot combed me weekly. My hair was long and healthy. Most of her deleted comments were mostly from people who said heat trained hair isn't natural....:rolleyes: I was under the impression that natural hair was hair with the absence of a relaxer/ texturizer. This is really something I find very puzzling. When did this become a fact? If heat trained hair isn't natural, why do so many accept BKT as being natural when the chemicals in that is embalming fluid?:rolleyes: Yes, her hair is gorgeous, but people have heat trained forever. It doesn't make you less natural than someone who rocks their naps.:nono:
 
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And based on the pics, she's a natural 4a/4b with no chemicals or heat?

Or heat?

Or heat?

Call me ignant, but I have no clue on how to get my braid outs or twists outs to lay like that. Not never. My hair naturally grows out and up, not out and down.

I'm not trying to be funny -- someone please show a 4b the way cuz my shrinkage is out of control and all the scarves and braiding while wet in the world ain't 'gon get [ME] the results she has.

Imma need: a list of products, tools, and techniques.

TIA!!


For me, the longer my hair got and the more and more that I wore twists and twist outs, the looser my hair became. I think it's the same for her. Twists and braids stretch your hair as much as blowdrying would over time. Look at someone like Longhairdontcare on YouTube.

She washes her hair once a month, blowdries once a month, but her hair is stretched out that way mostly because she keeps it braided. She says that she's heat trained, in my humble opinion, she's braid trained if that makes sense. Using a blow dryer once a month doesn't do that unless it's on the heat level of hell.
 
@DDTexlaxed It depends. I had called a heat trained lady natural once and she corrected me and told me that she was simply with out a relaxer.

I get what Chime is saying. I don't have to agree but I get what she is saying. I like that she comes from a different perspective. I also believe that her hair type is in the 4 range like she says. Maybe more A than B.
 
wait, back up, back up. i thought this thread was about heat training? why does every thread turn into what texture the girl's hair is?
 
But you said she was a 3B :lol: But I'm telling you, that texture is due to those twist-outs. I came home a year or two ago and saw her on a local commercial and said, "Oh, she's rocking twist-outs now".

I didn't know her personally but I come from a small town and "*****'s little sister" was infamous for that WL hair. I used to drool over that hair in the "backpack" days.

Right. But the arguement is that she is a 4a/b. Either way (your type or mine) we are wrong (according to the calvary). Her hair actually reminds me of Teri's but is less curly. The main reason I think she is a 3B is because of the way her hair behaves. I think the ends are the telltale sign. Any curly nonsilky hair can look 4a/b-ish if is not defined especially if it is thick. But, her ends remind me more of a 3B then a 3c. They don't curl wet or dry. I think it would be interesting to see her define her hair Teri style to see how it comes out.

I am not saying to discount what she has to say. I just disagree.

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For me, the longer my hair got and the more and more that I wore twists and twist outs, the looser my hair became. I think it's the same for her. Twists and braids stretch your hair as much as blowdrying would over time. Look at someone like Longhairdontcare on YouTube.

She washes her hair once a month, blowdries once a month, but her hair is stretched out that way mostly because she keeps it braided. She says that she's heat trained, in my humble opinion, she's braid trained if that makes sense. Using a blow dryer once a month doesn't do that unless it's on the heat level of hell.

I hear you and I see how this could be, but I thought the hair was to revert back after being stretched unless it's unnecessarily tight over a very long time, therefore damaging the shaft.

General question - so if stretching the hair with water and twists/braids can cause the hair to permanently stretch and therefore have a similar effect has heat training, does stretching damage the hair since it won't revert back 100%?
 
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