To you "So called NATURAL women"

[MarieB]

Wow! She should have written her thoughts down and memorized them instead of rambling like that. She could have stated her feelings completely in about two minutes (instead of the nine minutes I'll never get back). OK, you want to wear your hair relaxed, in a weave, whatever, go for it, be happy about your decision, and keep it moving. And why be so bothered by what other people do with theirs or make assumptions about how they should speak based on how they wear their hair? How is that any different than the assumptions she's accused others of making about her?

 

[PinkishlyNoire]

I think you're missing the point. I think everyone's main problem with this woman is that she's a fool. She's equating being black to talking...well, like a fool. She's insulting natural women for choosing to be natural ("why don't you comb your hair?") while defending her right to choose to get a relaxer or weave or whatever. If she had been on youtube with an intelligent argument, it might have been cool, but she's on here comparing washing your *** to slapping some NaOH on your scalp...and refusing to acknowledge how messed up that is...

Some natural women are like what you describe. But just like you're saying all relaxed women aren't this and that, ALL natural women aren't anything either. Personally, I don't care what anyone chooses to do with their own hair.

No, I didn't miss the point. I agree that her argument wasn't the cleanest, but you had to listen past the dialect: She was responding/ranting in response to someone's comment. That person, whether she was natural or not, had no right to tell her that she'd hang out with her if she get that mess out of her head, (I know that I'd be offended if ANYONE came at me like that, natural or not). When you blatantly say things like that to people with no thought about thier feelings, they get upset and most times, when people get upset, video cameras come up, utube videos get posted and they throw daggers at the only thing they can. In her case it was taking showers and talking white, etc.
She isn't insulting natural women for being natural, she's simply saying, "EVERYTHING is a choice and my choice is no more insane than yours". I'm sure that I didn't say that all natural women are "whatever" as a good amount of my friends and associates are natural and do not judge others, they just worry about their specific choices and that works.

I'm glad this was posted. Maybe it will get us to catch the words that might need to be rephrased in the future..

Have a great Mother's Day!!

 

[HeavenlySkies]

This chick is lame and comments have to be approved now lol

 

[kmn1980]

I made it to :05. She's sucking on her tongue ring. That's irritating. I tend not to listen to people on Youtube that I wouldn't befriend in real life.

 

[SexySin985]

I'm sorry but this chick sounds really bitter.

Her examples are very extreme and don't even go along with her aregument.

So based of her logic I guess I'm supposed to just neglect my hygiene and I should be using be using juices and berries to maintain my hair just because I'm natural...erplexed

 

[detroitdiva]

She sounds very insecure with herself and with naturals. I think she's jealous of natural women because she cannot go natural herself due to her own personal insecurities and inner fears. Its really sad and I feel bad for her. Its obviously eating her up inside to the point that she actually chose to embarass herself in front of millions of people. What a tragedy.

The funny part about this is we'll see this same girl next year tryin to go natural. So sad.

 

[Eritreladiee]

Her name is Barbie, her hair is fake, her nails are fake, she sounds lost...

 

[kaykaybobay]

I could not watch the whole thing. The speaking "white" thing drove me crazy. Plain ridiculous. Her rant was full of crazy. Just my opinion.

 

[asubeauty]

^^ I agree. I just couldn't finish the video. I felt myself getting dumber.

 

[PistolWhip]

****I watched as much as I could stand and she made soooo many generalizations that all I could think was damn somebody must of really hurt her feelings.

 

[westNDNbeauty]

ok....so am i the only one that noticed....it is about that time that she would need to get the weave re-done. lol. maybe that's what the girl she is referring to in the video was really hinting at. ::

 

[Kash]

Her name is Barbie, her hair is fake, her nails are fake, she sounds lost...

She sounds very insecure with herself and with naturals. I think she's jealous of natural women because she cannot go natural herself due to her own personal insecurities and inner fears. Its really sad and I feel bad for her. Its obviously eating her up inside to the point that she actually chose to embarass herself in front of millions of people. What a tragedy.

The funny part about this is we'll see this same girl next year tryin to go natural. So sad.

thank you ladies, you summed up her ignorance perfectly! i can't believe she would rather walk around with with a fake, busted, squirrels nest weave on her head, than to simply wear their pretty hair that they were blessed with!...i will never ever understand that logic.

 

[naturalglory041490]

Omg I just saw this video a few days ago... Unfortunately she was partially right about me. I am natural and I'm dating a white guy... Lol but outside of that she was completely wrong. I find that her refering to natural women as Afrocentric and speaking white. She's just parroting what she's heard I'm sure she's called some natural women nappy headed( in a negative sense). I mean her weave was a ham, she kept smacking and was over all distasteful so I had a good 10 minute laugh.

 

[Summer79]

I watched.....the whole thing because it made me laugh. First off, how in the world can someone be that angry with the Backyardigans playing in the background? Such a happy little show. Anywho I think someone ate a bowl of angry stew before youtubing. Also I don't think I EVER want to hear "so-called" again in my life...... expand your vocab lady geez. Oh and I like showers and baths just like I'm sure the rest of you ladies do and take a few a day.

 

[Avaya]

Well I'll be the outlier and say I have met women like the ones she is describing in her YT video (ie, dread locks/afro; Caucasian vocal intonations; Caucasian mate, etc); the ones you would think would run to the salon at the mere sight of a kink . None of them have been natural hair Nazis though.

 

[Vashti]

I've run into some of the women she's talking about. I think she has a minor point but she's also doing the same thing she accuses them of doing - being judgmental and making grand sweeping generalizations about people in a group. I'm a natural sister and I don't act like the women she's talking about.

I look at whether a person's hair is healthy looking, no matter whether they are natural or relaxed because that's what really matters. Crappy hair is crappy hair and there are just as many jacked up naturals out there talking trash as there are jacked up looking relaxed sisters out there talking trash. I put ALL women who do this to others, whether they are relaxed or natural into the same boat - the boat headed down the River of Insecurity. People like that are lame.

And yeah, it's about time she did somethin' 'bout that weave. I would NEVER get on YT talking trash about hair with jacked up hair like that.

 

[DDTexlaxed]

This has happened on YT like forever. Even some hair sites. It is like the perpetual battle of good/bad hair. Relaxed/natural battles. I guess she let it get the best of her.

 

[ConstantlyDynamic]

i mean...that was a good laugh

i see where she was getting at (because there are definitely some judgmental naturals out there who are even against occasional presses/blow-outs) BUT she sounded so unintelligent and ignorant. there is no way to talk "white" or "black" and dating someone of another race doesn't mean you aren't comfortable with your blackness.

people like her remind me of whites who complain when some blacks are into black pride etc. and don't realize that the black pride movement began BECAUSE blacks were being treated as inferior so they had to build themselves up and teach other blacks to love themselves regardless of society's views towards them. same thing with naturals. though i don't like the judgmental views that some naturals have, i get that they have a goal- to make black women love the natural texture of their hair. they are in the minority because most black women perm their hair so they kind of have to assert themselves in order to be heard. many blacks still see their hair as being a "problem" because apparently it's nappy and not "good hair" (smh-also it is very prevalent for natural hair to be downed as being too nappy and in need of a perm so really, natural hair gets bashed on the daily so im not sure why she acts like permed women don't bash naturals-one of my friends straight up grimaced at me when i said i was going natural). that's why perming became so popular- black people weren't comfortable with their own hair. that's just fact so these "so-called natural, so-called afrocentric" (lol@the assumption that naturals must be afrocentric) women are trying to work against the grain and show that our natural texture is beautiful. though i'm not judgmental about it because i was permed and many of my family and friends are permed, i do get upset when i see parents perming their children's hair etc. b/c to me, that shows that they have a certain mentality. these are children and they don't need perms but their parents clearly see their hair as being a "problem" and that's sad. that doesn't mean they want to be white but it does mean that they aren't comfortable with their hair and don't see the beauty of it. sorry if i'm rambling, but my point is that there are definitely issues within the black community and a general disdain for natural hair so of course that breeds a certain mentality from some naturals in which they feel like have to preach to others or have to assert their pride all the time. that's the way any minority group operates when they know that they are going against certain notions embedded in society

 

[BostonMaria]

As ignorant as she was on YT, I can understand what she is talking about. I've seen some people with natural hair act holier than thou on the internet. In real life, not so much. Maybe some people around her are making her feel like she's not "black enough" but honestly not every woman with natural hair is the same. Just like not every woman with a weave, relaxed hair, braids, etc is the same.

I wouldn't say I was "enlightened" when I became natural. I will say that going through the transitioning phase I was able to think about WHY I relaxed in the first place, which was out of habit and because that's just what you do. I can't say that all of a sudden I'm wicked smart LOL Last I checked, I was college edumacated before transitioning to natural.

Maybe on the internet it looks like we're "taking over" and got the upper hand. Truth is there are so many women of color that are afraid of their nappy hair and probably have no idea what their chemical-free hair looks like.

 

[mariofmagdal]

Well she is a Barbie.

My thoughts exactly.

 

[southerncitygirl]

omg, i couldn't get through the whole thing she got on my darn nerves, yes natural nazis exist but so do straight haired or relaxer nazi's. although i worry about the potential healthi issues of relaxers i think beautiful hair is great natural, weaved, or relaxed as long as its well maintained and cared for. and wth does speaking proper english have to do with any doggone thing? barbie needs to take a dictation/enuciation course and master the english language. she needs to get on this forum and learn how to maintain a weave, many of the ladies here could teach her a thing or two.

 

[Solitude]

I saw this video a few days ago and I agreed with about 98% of what she said. I think so many people are calling her "a fool" and "ignorant" because she struck a nerve....especially with the dating outside of one's race issue. I, too, have found it ironic for someone who states that women who relax are falling for the "Eurocentric" standard of beauty, yet many of these same women are dating or married to men of a different race. If y'all don't see the correlation there, then I don't know what to tell you.

Note: I think people should date whoever they want, just like I believe that women should do whatever they want to their hair.

Now, if she was really trying to go hard, she could have made a video about how many die-hard "naturals" are dying for curls and how many naturals on youtube giving out advice actually have thin, dry, hair that doesn't look good at all.

 

[BostonMaria]

I watched.....the whole thing because it made me laugh. First off, how in the world can someone be that angry with the Backyardigans playing in the background? Such a happy little show.

I thought I recognized that song!! :lachen :

 

[Solitude]

She sounds very insecure with herself and with naturals. I think she's jealous of natural women because she cannot go natural herself due to her own personal insecurities and inner fears. Its really sad and I feel bad for her. Its obviously eating her up inside to the point that she actually chose to embarass herself in front of millions of people. What a tragedy.

The funny part about this is we'll see this same girl next year tryin to go natural. So sad.

What's sad about that, if she does choose to wear her hair natural in the future? What does she have to be jealous of...?

 

[MusicandWine]

What a meandering video.

 

[SweetSpirit86]

I'm sorry...but while I get her point, her delivery was TERRIBLE. I don't appreciate having my way of speech likened to trying to be white, nor popping up just because I'm natural. Like all of a sudden when I cut my relaxed hair off I gained the ability to speak proper English. When will black people get it through their head that being educated isn't a white trait? We seem to be the only race that doesn't get that, and she embodies how pathetic it is. I've met obnoxious afrocentric naturals, and regular naturals. I've met b!+chy insulting relaxed heads, and chill relaxed heads. Why does there need to be so much hate?

I also don't see the correlation with dating a white man. If you think that dating someone outside your race makes you "less black," then you need to take a good hard look at yourself and what your values are. The same people who want to be treated equally, and claim that race shouldn't matter are the same ones who turn up their noses when they see an interracial couple. It's juvenile.

As far as her commenting about being dirty? She can go play in traffic on that one, because it was just rude and uncalled for. I bathe daily, and wash my hair regularly. Heck, outside of this board, there are probably more relaxed heads who don't wash because they're afraid their hair might revert. Come on, let's be realistic, please. If she's going to complain about being generalized, she needs to watch what comes out of her own mouth in the process. I see no reason to take someone this ignorant seriously. She and her "so-called" sociology degree can chew on that.

 

[supermodelsonya]

From reading some of the dumb comments in this thread, I can see why she is ranting and raving on Youtube.

Is she expressing her points clearly. No. But she is only speaking from her experiences. I, too, have met these type of women that she is talking about.

The point is DO YOU. Don't worry about WHY someone else is doing something you don't necessarily agree with.

 

[CocoBunny]

Well I'll be the outlier and say I have met women like the ones she is describing in her YT video (ie, dread locks/afro; Caucasian vocal intonations; Caucasian mate, etc); the ones you would think would run to the salon at the mere sight of a kink . None of them have been natural hair Nazis though.

Caucasian vocal intonations??? Still trying to figure out what this means.

 

[exoticmommie]

*just passing through*

hope it don't get ugly in here.

 

[ConstantlyDynamic]

I saw this video a few days ago and I agreed with about 98% of what she said. I think so many people are calling her "a fool" and "ignorant" because she struck a nerve....especially with the dating outside of one's race issue. I, too, have found it ironic for someone who states that women who relax are falling for the "Eurocentric" standard of beauty, yet many of these same women are dating or married to men of a different race. If y'all don't see the correlation there, then I don't know what to tell you.

wow really? i don't see the correlation at all. it is very possible to love being black and still love someone who is of another race. i would only see the correlation if she was talking about women who EXCLUSIVELY date white men. that to me says something about how these women view themselves and their people. dating men of all races doesn't mean anything. i'm a natural and i love my kinky hair & brown skin (i love my relaxed hair too lol) but i've never turned down a guy because of his race so yes, i have been with white men. i don't see that as being equivalent to women who "[fall] for a 'Eurocentric' standard of beauty" because i love black men too.

the reason why some naturals say that perming your hair is a way of "falling for a 'eurocentric' standard of beauty" is because there are definitely people (not all) who perm because they have negative views about kinky hair. if that wasn't the case, we wouldn't have the "good" (straight) hair vs. "bad" hair issue in the black community. we wouldn't have women telling each other that they need perms or kids teasing other kids because their hair is "nappy like an african" (the kids used to say that a lot when i was younger-not to me but just in general). kids used to ask each other all the time "when are you going to finally get your perm?" as if getting a perm is a standard part of black life- being natural was something to run away from. there is nothing wrong with grown women (i hate kiddie perms) perming their hair if they want a different look so i agree with you about that (i mean i used to perm and even now, i'd still straighten) but seeing that even children are conditioned to see this chemical process as being a normal process that black women HAVE to go through, i think it is evident that we have image issues in our community. that point is getting lost in these relaxed vs. natural debates. unfortunately natural nazi's go too hard and tend to be too forceful/disrespectful or strict but they do have a point. i personally can't believe this woman is a sociology major though (this is coming from another soc major). not sure where she got her degree but she seems to be very ignorant about social issues, interactions, and ways of thinking.