Southernbella.
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It's funny this thread was bumped. I'm sitting under the dryer with a caramel treatment on my head right now. My neck is so sticky.
I'll come back with my results.
I'll come back with my results.
YUM...CARAMEL
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Shadiyah
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You know that Etae is not making it anymore. She started a new shampoo that has it in there but will not longer be selling caramel. Went to try and get the last of it and they were all out of it and will have the shampoo out on the site starting next week sometime. and it is for all hair types, I guess I will be making my own now.
Lucky's Mom
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Southernbella.
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Well, this did nothing for my hair.
I'm going to try it again, simply because I bought all the ingredients and don't want to feel like I wasted my money, and I'm hoping I have better results next time.
I'm going to try it again, simply because I bought all the ingredients and don't want to feel like I wasted my money, and I'm hoping I have better results next time.
Lucky's Mom
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Well, this did nothing for my hair.
I'm going to try it again, simply because I bought all the ingredients and don't want to feel like I wasted my money, and I'm hoping I have better results next time.
Sorry about that. It works for most.... depending on what is in it.
Lucky's Mom
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imho---- variations with the recipe can be problematic.
I use the SAME recipe every time.
Great results....
Have fun with it girls!
AVE One
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Darn, I guess lazy folks like me will have to mix up their own batch. That shampoo has peeked my interest. I wonder why they stopped selling the caramel...
vkb247
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Interesting that you use Xantham gum Samantha...do you think that I could use guar gum? Are exact proportions important or can I just mix randomly?
I have everything except wheat germ oil. Do you think flaxseed oil, apricot kernel oil, or shea butter oil will be the best replacement?
I have everything except wheat germ oil. Do you think flaxseed oil, apricot kernel oil, or shea butter oil will be the best replacement?
Sui Topi
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I mean it was crazy good!
Lucky's Mom
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Guar gum - is also a thickener....so that should be fine...
In terms of other oils... I have used lighter oils... and things did not go so well. So - IMO - Wheat germ oil is best. Vitamin e oil ( the pure, thick stuff) might work.
I made a batch last night. Yummm..............
Sui Topi
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I just wanted to say I love this stuff and I add molasses to everything now (DCs) and my roots get so straight even if I am just air drying in pigtails or something. I'm sure if I just wng-ed it would kink up and look like 3 inches again, but for now, even like when I wash my hair that one middle piece on the top of my head is so flat and easy to comb now. I have also been putting food grade aloe vera gel in my hair, so maybe the same thing that happened to Adw425 is happening to me. All I know is I like it and although my hair is still highly textured, it is super manageable.
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ladytee2
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I tried carmel a few weeks ago and it didnt do anything for my hair. My mix was very runny. It was dripping everywhere. It made a big mess. I was like what is the to do. I can allow for user error but my hair just felt coated. It did not feel moisturized. I wanted to deep condition again after I washed out the carmel. I used cornstrach becuase I dont want to buy anything else that I might not use again. I froze half of my mix so when I go to use the fromzen mix I am going to try to add more cornstarch. Is the carmel suppose to be thick?
Lucky's Mom
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Yes. What was your recipe?
ladytee2
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I used the recipe posted on page 9 except is used a sprinkle of cornstarch. I mixed the cornstarch less than a tsp in about a tbsp of water.
TIA
Honey 1/2 cup
olive oil 1/4 cup
overripe banana - 1
molasses 1/8 cup
Xathan Gum - Sprinkle
acv -squirt
Wheat germ oil - 1 tsps
Blend With a Blender ( puree )until creamy.....
TIA
Honey 1/2 cup
olive oil 1/4 cup
overripe banana - 1
molasses 1/8 cup
Xathan Gum - Sprinkle
acv -squirt
Wheat germ oil - 1 tsps
Blend With a Blender ( puree )until creamy.....
ebonyhair
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I am trying this on Thursday-doing it myself. I am using a mixture of honey, olive oil, molasses, bananas, cornstarch, water, vinegar, and wheat germ oil. These are the directions that I received: Apply it like you would a relaxer, let it sit for 30 minutes with a plastic cap on, rinse, shampoo with a sulfate-free shampoo, condition, and rollerset and/or blowdry your hair and roots. Wish me luck! 
Lucky's Mom
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Yep - that is the recipe.... Totally wierd that it was runny. I don't use any water in my mix...
Did you heat it????
I don't know what could have gone wrong....Sometimes it is a little drippy - but most times - it is not for me...
I think you might want to continue to add cornstarch until it thickens...little by little - while it Blends.
I bought Xathan gum for this exact reason. I was using cornstarch and it was not thick enough for me.
I have no drips with my recipe.
HTH
kinkycotton
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The follow is the directions i got from blackhairinformation.com. The cornstarch is use to thicken it up so it won't drip. And you can use it by eye. If it looks too runny when cooking it then add more cornstarch. Hope this helps. I'm bout to try it out right now but i need to lower the about of tbls. I don't need that much. 
Here outlined is a simple recipe based on the ingredients above:
Honey – 6 tablespoons
Olive Oil – 6 tablespoons
Bananas – 2-3 overripe and very soft
Molasses (Treacle) – 3 tablespoons
Water – 4-6 tablespoons
Apple Cider Vinegar – 1 tablespoon
Cornstarch – 1-2 tablespoons depending on how thick you want the mixture to be
Wheat germ oil – 1 teaspoon – This can be substituted for any other natural oil of your choice
• Place all the ingredients except for the water into a blender and process until smooth. You may need to add the water bit by bit if it looks too dry.
• To ensure that there are no bits of banana in the mixture, sieve it through a fine sieve.
• Pour the mixture into a saucepan and put it on a medium heat while stirring constantly. You don’t want to ‘cook’ the mixture but you want the cornstarch to cause it to thicken and this will take just moments. You may need to add more water to thin it down if it gets too thick or add a bit more cornstarch if it is still too runny. You want to end up with a caramel coloured mixture that is the consistency of a thick batter. If the mixture is too thin it will start dripping from your hair as soon as you apply it.
• Decant the mixture into a container, depending on the length of your hair it will likely be enough for two applications.
To apply, divide the hair into 3-4 sections and clip. Starting with 1 section, part the hair and apply on the roots generously rubbing in with your fingers. Once applied on the roots of the section, apply the mixture all the way to the ends. Complete all sections in this manner and once done, cover the hair with a plastic cap. Let the mixture sit in your hair for 1-2 hours or overnight for really dry hair.
Wash hair with a sulfate free shampoo, deep condition and style as usual. You can freeze the remainder until you are ready to use it. The treatment is suitable for both natural and relaxed hair.
Here outlined is a simple recipe based on the ingredients above:
Honey – 6 tablespoons
Olive Oil – 6 tablespoons
Bananas – 2-3 overripe and very soft
Molasses (Treacle) – 3 tablespoons
Water – 4-6 tablespoons
Apple Cider Vinegar – 1 tablespoon
Cornstarch – 1-2 tablespoons depending on how thick you want the mixture to be
Wheat germ oil – 1 teaspoon – This can be substituted for any other natural oil of your choice
• Place all the ingredients except for the water into a blender and process until smooth. You may need to add the water bit by bit if it looks too dry.
• To ensure that there are no bits of banana in the mixture, sieve it through a fine sieve.
• Pour the mixture into a saucepan and put it on a medium heat while stirring constantly. You don’t want to ‘cook’ the mixture but you want the cornstarch to cause it to thicken and this will take just moments. You may need to add more water to thin it down if it gets too thick or add a bit more cornstarch if it is still too runny. You want to end up with a caramel coloured mixture that is the consistency of a thick batter. If the mixture is too thin it will start dripping from your hair as soon as you apply it.
• Decant the mixture into a container, depending on the length of your hair it will likely be enough for two applications.
To apply, divide the hair into 3-4 sections and clip. Starting with 1 section, part the hair and apply on the roots generously rubbing in with your fingers. Once applied on the roots of the section, apply the mixture all the way to the ends. Complete all sections in this manner and once done, cover the hair with a plastic cap. Let the mixture sit in your hair for 1-2 hours or overnight for really dry hair.
Wash hair with a sulfate free shampoo, deep condition and style as usual. You can freeze the remainder until you are ready to use it. The treatment is suitable for both natural and relaxed hair.
Lucky's Mom
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MissRissa
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Sam, where do you get the xantham gum? I think i'd rather try that as the thickening agent.
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Lucky's Mom
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kinkycotton
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I just finished the treatment and it came out wonderful. My hair felt soft, hydrated, and laid on my neck so it did elongated my curls but I do understand that doesn't happen for everyone. You don't want to cook it. Warming it up while consistently stirring helps the cornstarch thicken the product so it won't drip. Mine came out like a pudding so it was much easier to apply. BUT next time I will use banana baby food because real bananas is a pain if you don't have a sieve. ugh. I'm definitely gonna give this a try again next month. 
ugh. I'm definitely gonna give this a try again next month.
Lucky's Mom
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I just finished the treatment and it came out wonderful. My hair felt soft, hydrated, and laid on my neck so it did elongated my curls but I do understand that doesn't happen for everyone. You don't want to cook it. Warming it up while consistently stirring helps the cornstarch thicken the product so it won't drip. Mine came out like a pudding so it was much easier to apply. BUT next time I will use banana baby food because real bananas is a pain if you don't have a sieve.
I feel ya... I like avocado for this reason....
kinkycotton
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This entire time I thought you had to sieve avocado through. LOL
I wanted to try the avocado dc but I'm protein sensitive. Everyone loves the results it gives em so..hey, it won't hurt to try as long there's no chunks left behind.
Your long hair keeps me positive that my hair will grow past the TWA stage. Thanks!!
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Lucky's Mom
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This entire time I thought you had to sieve avocado through. LOL
I wanted to try the avocado dc but I'm protein sensitive. Everyone loves the results it gives em so..hey, it won't hurt to try as long there's no chunks left behind.
Your long hair keeps me positive that my hair will grow past the TWA stage. Thanks!!
It will sister. Don't worry
tidit
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I did this treatment two or three times for an hour to an our and a half to help during a six month relaxer stretch. It took almost too much volume out of my hair, almost like a fresh relaxer when wet (but back to pouffy when dry). I stopped using it. It took weeks to get my volume back. I remember reading Just Kiya mentioning this effect somewhere.
What would cause this effect? Is it the acidity of the bananas, protein from some other ingredient, or was it too mositurizing for my very fine hair? Any thoughts?
What would cause this effect? Is it the acidity of the bananas, protein from some other ingredient, or was it too mositurizing for my very fine hair? Any thoughts?
Nefertiti0906
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Bumping for answers to Tidit's post
Lucky's Mom
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I am sorry - I would have no idea. I am always looking for something that will 'calm my hair' - so it is an added plus for me.
Be Positive
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I cheated when I made my caramel treatment. I went to Wal mart and purchased T. Marzetti Old Fashioned Caramel Apple Dip and mixed it with a tsp of ACV, bananas from the jar (Wal Mart brand) and a teaspoon of olive oil and it worked just like the original Etae itself. I could kick myself for paying $15-$17 per bottle of the Etae when I could get the caramel and the other basic ingredients from Wal Mart all under 5 bucks! Now I know better
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