Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge

@toaster maybe you could alternate between roller sets and wash n gos so that you can see your length some weeks.
I miss seeing my length sometimes, but I’m too lazy to do a stretched style.
That’s a great idea, and probably something I’ll implement next year. This year I think I’d just be disappointed by how short it is stretched. At least in a wash and go my hair was never hanging super long, so the shorter length doesn’t bother me as much. Plus it’s grown over the last month, which is encouraging.
 
My day 2 hair is starting to come down. I’ve realized over the past few months that I do not have “up and out” hair. And that’s fine. I think because of that, when I start getting professional trims again, I’ll do it on straight hair. I like for my hair to be the same length all around, and that’s basically how mona cut my hair last September anyway.

This is a day 2 hair comparison from 12/16 to today, 1/21. 9D4EBD52-C3D8-4246-A8D6-0BBCF5EAFB9B.jpeg
 
Hey ladies! I’ve decided I’ll be hanging out in this thread for the foreseeable future. I haven’t been wearing WnGs due to much needed shaping, but I do wash and style with BlackGirlCurl’s suggested method.

I’ve had some setbacks this last year due to postpartum shedding and pandemic hair neglect, but I’m hoping to turn that all around in 2021. I’ve got an appointment with a local curl specialist next month and plan on wearing WnGs regularly after that. I’ll probably mix in twists as well because I love that style.

Reading your experiences has been very helpful this last week and I can’t wait to get in on the discussions and share my own progress.
 
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I am enjoying the 30 day hair detox emails, but I don’t think I’ll be joining the new course. At this point, I’m not sure there’s new information for me to learn. Just have to keep putting my knowledge and new skills to work.
I’m in the same boat. I’ve watched a few of their lives (they are SUPER long) and they are saying the same things they’ve been saying. And I don’t want to spend $35/month to hear it again. The DS was nice because you could talk to all the other members, but I don’t think their new offering will have that component.
 
Welcome @Nightingale !

@GettingKinky i thought about you when I read this morning’s email and they were talking about applying “palmfuls” of product to our hair when setting.
The funny thing about this is before when people used to complain that the products they recommend are so expensive, they would come back with “these products are high quality so you don’t need to use a lot”. But now they are telling people they need to use more conditioner and more gel.

For awhile when I started following them had bad results because I was trying to just use a little of these high end quality products. Now I use just as much as I used to use when I used cheap products.
 
Washed again. Used the Tresemme chelation shampoo & the Camille Rose Naturals Pear Custard Conditioner (smells like food, good slip for detangling). Detangled with my Kazmaleje thing (I love it for detangling w/o breaking my curl clumps).

...I’m finding that UFD by itself does not have the level of hold or provide the definition that I like from my gel. I’m torn between going ahead and getting the liter again at my appt on 1/29 or not. I might try ICH but as heavy handed as I am, that bottle would be done in a month.

I used just UFD at first because the salon requests you only use botanical help before a visit. And my hair has ZERO weight, minimal definition. It’s like I could see the coils as I applied the gel and then they fluffed out and disappeared- didn’t even have time to get under the dryer. (I went back & applied some Aunt Jackie’s Ice Curls but it’s too late) I’m at a loss.

My other option for clean hair before the appt is the KCKT/KCCC combo.
 
@LavenderMint Did you use lots of water with the UFD? I’ve never used it by itself, but my hair feels heavy with just UFD and water.
Yep. I forgot that’s what UFD does on my hair. This is what it looked like after my salon visit in Oct. with ICV and pretty much what it looks like now. Very fluffy, very little definition or hold. Other products do a different job on my hair.
 

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Washed again. Used the Tresemme chelation shampoo & the Camille Rose Naturals Pear Custard Conditioner (smells like food, good slip for detangling). Detangled with my Kazmaleje thing (I love it for detangling w/o breaking my curl clumps).

...I’m finding that UFD by itself does not have the level of hold or provide the definition that I like from my gel. I’m torn between going ahead and getting the liter again at my appt on 1/29 or not. I might try ICH but as heavy handed as I am, that bottle would be done in a month.

I used just UFD at first because the salon requests you only use botanical help before a visit. And my hair has ZERO weight, minimal definition. It’s like I could see the coils as I applied the gel and then they fluffed out and disappeared- didn’t even have time to get under the dryer. (I went back & applied some Aunt Jackie’s Ice Curls but it’s too late) I’m at a loss.

My other option for clean hair before the appt is the KCKT/KCCC combo.
Are they going to do the complete wash, set and cut? If so, then I wouldn't worry about getting a good set. They just want to make sure they don't have to work hard to get the plastic of the non-botanicals off.

But if they aren't doing the wash and set, you may want to get clarification. If they are only cutting you want your hair to be completely set the way you like.

I have a different experience with ICH than others in this thread. I use a lot of UFD, but I can get by with only 2 to 3 pumps of ICH. So my UFD to ICH is 10 to 1.
 
Are they going to do the complete wash, set and cut? If so, then I wouldn't worry about getting a good set. They just want to make sure they don't have to work hard to get the plastic of the non-botanicals off.

But if they aren't doing the wash and set, you may want to get clarification. If they are only cutting you want your hair to be completely set the way you like.

I have a different experience with ICH than others in this thread. I use a lot of UFD, but I can get by with only 2 to 3 pumps of ICH. So my UFD to ICH is 10 to 1.
I have the same experience with ICH on top of UFD. With my wng I split my hair in 4 sections and use 4-5 pumps of UFD per section, so approx 20 pumps. I then top each section off with 1 pump of ICH and it’s plenty, so 4 total. I just finished my first 10oz bottle of ICH and I’ve had it since September. But disclaimer, I typically do my hair 2x a week, but since I did a lot of experimenting back then, I didn’t use it every wash day until like Oct.
 
Are they going to do the complete wash, set and cut? If so, then I wouldn't worry about getting a good set. They just want to make sure they don't have to work hard to get the plastic of the non-botanicals off.

But if they aren't doing the wash and set, you may want to get clarification. If they are only cutting you want your hair to be completely set the way you like.

I have a different experience with ICH than others in this thread. I use a lot of UFD, but I can get by with only 2 to 3 pumps of ICH. So my UFD to ICH is 10 to 1.
Yes, I’m 80% sure it’s the whole deal but I’ll call Monday to double check. Thank you for that reminder. I think my main concern is it being completely fluffed out & tangled by Friday. This set is basically what my hair looks & feels like air-dried with leave-in conditioner.

I've never tried ICH and don’t like the fluffiness that results from ICV.
@EmmJaii I usually have 10-16 sections :look: (occasionally less) & it was so bad I stopped counting when I got to 6 pumps on a section.
I dunno. Maybe I did something else wrong to get these lackluster results. I’m actually a bit curious to see how this would wear over the course of the week.
 
Used TMC newest collection gel yesterday.
( rejuvenation solution )

fire topper and all around gel. I was rushing and didn’t use a leave in. Hair is extra firm but not alarming. In the warmer weather it will probably do awesome.

I’ll wash again tomorrow. Fighting the urge to do it tonight because I don’t feel like sitting under the dryer.
 
I’m back to UFD/ICH until I finish my open bottle of UFD. I raked more than usual today and I’m really liking my results. I’m not sure why I keep forgetting that raking very deliberately and thoroughly is one of the keys to getting good results. Probably because I’m lazy and want to be done quickly, but this only adds a few more minutes and the results are worth it.

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I tried a one product wng for the first time last night with UFD. Took me just under 1 hour 10 minutes. I had to use significantly more product than usual because I didn’t have the ICH compensating for my subpar technique with UFD. I think I used close to 48 pumps for my whole head. The results were fluffier than usual, but still defined and my hair took way longer to dry. It’s cute, but I don’t think it’ll go longer than 2-3 days. I think this is okay for a quarantine wng but if I was in my normal routine, there is no way this would fit my lifestyle. I need minimum 5 days.
 
I’m back to UFD/ICH until I finish my open bottle of UFD. I raked more than usual today and I’m really liking my results. I’m not sure why I keep forgetting that raking very deliberately and thoroughly is one of the keys to getting good results. Probably because I’m lazy and want to be done quickly, but this only adds a few more minutes and the results are worth it.

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Yes, I can definitely see the difference. Hopefully, you will commit to the few minutes.
 
Wash day! Since the Curlsmith DC doesn’t have slip, I’m going to detangle with my briogeo rinse out and then apply the Curlsmith DC. I just let the DC sit on my hair while I finish my shower and then rinse it out to style, but I’ve decided it still counts for something.
Here’s day 5 hair with pop lock. Feels very soft and survived multiple workouts. 916362AB-9642-4E1B-A74B-5DE8A73ACC97.jpeg210F4729-DBC4-43AC-8B20-D5280A39B335.jpeg
 
Wash day! Since the Curlsmith DC doesn’t have slip, I’m going to detangle with my briogeo rinse out and then apply the Curlsmith DC. I just let the DC sit on my hair while I finish my shower and then rinse it out to style, but I’ve decided it still counts for something.
Here’s day 5 hair with pop lock. Feels very soft and survived multiple workouts. View attachment 468413View attachment 468415
Your hair looks amazing! I can not believe this is day 5! Looks like you’ve really got it dialed in. Did you use any stylers other than pop lock?
 
Your hair looks amazing! I can not believe this is day 5! Looks like you’ve really got it dialed in. Did you use any stylers other than pop lock?
No ma’am! Just pop lock on soaking wet hair. I use about a nickel sized amount for each section, and I do about 18 total sections.

I’m really loving it so far. Day 1 is rock hard but the subsequent days are soft with good definition.
 
Does anyone else get anxious / super excited about washing their hair even though they just did it? Like I did my hair Friday, but after reflecting on what I need to change, I just want to redo my hair and try a new product combo/ technique but my hair still looks fine (surprisingly). Lol
 
Does anyone else get anxious / super excited about washing their hair even though they just did it? Like I did my hair Friday, but after reflecting on what I need to change, I just want to redo my hair and try a new product combo/ technique but my hair still looks fine (surprisingly). Lol
I feel that way sometimes. I’ll plan out exactly what I want to do differently the next time I wash my hair, and then I don’t want to wait until my next wash day. Or if I get a good result, I want to try again as soon as possible to see if I can repeat the good result.
 
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