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Last week after Wella demi permanent in 3N

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This morning after gold hair paint wax
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Here's a pic my my wash n go. IMG_3180.jpg
I didn't shingle (I love it but it takes too long to do) I just smoothed and raked.
Sunday I used a different gel this time since I'm low on Aunt Jackie's Ice Curls: Camille Rose Curl Maker. I must have used to much because my hair is so sticky feeling and my hair has a grayish look to it. I don't feel like rewashing but I may have to.

I shampooed with CR Ginger Cleansing Rinse
Conditioned with CR Moroccan Pear Conditioning Custard (my favorite conditioner) I let it sit for 15 mins.
Rinse with cool water
Used CR Curl Love Moisture Milk
Styled with CR Curl Maker
 
Washed today with As I Am Cleansing Pudding since I’m trying to use up my stash. Deep conditioned with the last of the Curl Junkie Curl Rehab & opened the Carols Daughter Black Vanilla Deep Conditioning Hair Smoothie. My hair was super easy to detangle and felt very soft but also coated when rinsing it out- it’s chock full of butters. Probably not a repurchase for me but I really like the Curl Rehab dc. @toaster standing under the water & making sure my hair was really rinsed off before starting was the key, exactly like you said!
So next step was to try UFD on soaking wet hair. I’ve never put products in my hair like this before & I'm not entirely sure I like it. I kinda feel that re-wetting after all the gel was in might have been too much. Parts of my hair are already looking frizzy. I literally only have UFD on my hair right now, no leave-in conditioner, which is also a first for me.

Right now, I have a fan blowing full speed at the nape of my neck & I’m diffusing everywhere else. I ended up buying an adjustable one on Ama.zon. I will say, my scalp feels mostly dry, my hair doesn’t feel gummy (gel is supposed to be sticky), and it has shrunk SO much... banding is going to be super necessary tonight.

I’ll post pictures tomorrow.
 
So... I’m not liking it. Too many frizzy areas where I’m not usually like that. I’m holding up a particularly frizzed out piece that usually isn’t. I notice a lot of areas have very little definition that usually are fine; this time, they’re puffy until about an inch to the end when they suddenly coil very nicely The gel is unpleasantly sticky. I don’t know if it’s me or the gel.

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I haven’t decided if I’m going to wng again next week.
 
I use the briogeo curl charisma shampoo whenever I think the innersense hair bath won’t be enough. Then I pair it with the conditioner because I have it.

The conditioner is so thick and luscious. I love it. No oils or butters in the first 5 ingredients and it rinses clean.
 
LavenderMint said:
So... I’m not liking it. Too many frizzy areas where I’m not usually like that. I’m holding up a particularly frizzed out piece that usually isn’t. I notice a lot of areas have very little definition that usually are fine; this time, they’re puffy until about an inch to the end when they suddenly coil very nicely The gel is unpleasantly sticky. I don’t know if it’s me or the gel.

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I haven’t decided if I’m going to wng again next week.
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I think it looks great! But if you don’t like it, you definitely don’t have to do it again.

I think the reason the digital salon recommended using a topper gel or cream or mousse is to solve a problem you’re having with a gel only wash and go. If your issue is frizz, maybe try applying a harder hold gel on top of the uncle funky’s? I use mousse on top of uncle funky’s to give a softer set, dry faster, and provide some protection from the humidity. That’s why it’s my “topper”.

Alternatively, go back to whatever was working with you before! There shouldn’t be hard and fast rules in hair.
 
GettingKinky said:
I’m a little sad, but I could see the writing on the wall. I’m grateful that I’ve been a part of the salon, I learned a ton and my hair wash n gos are much better now. I’ll probably stick around until the end and rewatch all the videos for any info I missed the first time around.

The one thing that annoys me about them, is their reluctance to answer questions. They act like having a full understanding of our hair is too much to expect. I started using a diffuser before they did, and they acted like that was too much for a mere mortal to learn, but now they promote the dyson all the time. Little things like that really irk me.
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Yepppp! While I understand they are stylists and this is their area of expertise, there are basic things that we lay people can understand. Their attitude and tone has always been off putting. I learned enough (I think) and this month is my last month in the salon. I honestly feel like I learned more spending time watching lots of their YouTube videos. I do wash and go's exclusively. I get the overall gist about oils and butters, especially since I do wash and go's. I have a grasp on the shampoos. I'm open to trying different types of gels though. I'm not sold on ICH but I do love UFD as a base gel. I'm grateful to have found them and learn from them and learning the simplicity of hair. The digital salon wasn't as helpful as I thought it would be. I spent more time using the search bar and sorta figuring my hair out on it's own. I'm happy to have to found out about base gels and topper gels.
 
Have you guys ever tried the MopTop daily conditioner?
I bought the small bottle on a whim and loved it! I'm gonna get a larger bottle probably on black friday lol. I like way better than the AG Boost, I'm gonna replace the MopTop with the AG conditioner. It's more conditioning and soaks into my hair much better than the AG.
 
Britt said:
Yepppp! While I understand they are stylists and this is their area of expertise, there are basic things that we lay people can understand. Their attitude and tone has always been off putting. I learned enough (I think) and this month is my last month in the salon. I honestly feel like I learned more spending time watching lots of their YouTube videos. I do wash and go's exclusively. I get the overall gist about oils and butters, especially since I do wash and go's. I have a grasp on the shampoos. I'm open to trying different types of gels though. I'm not sold on ICH but I do love UFD as a base gel. I'm grateful to have found them and learn from them and learning the simplicity of hair. The digital salon wasn't as helpful as I thought it would be. I spent more time using the search bar and sorta figuring my hair out on it's own. I'm happy to have to found out about base gels and topper gels.
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I love ICH. It’s my favorite gel since wetline.
I think I’m going to hang out until the end not for the As, but because I like the people there, and I like to support Black businesses. I’ve always found the As a bit to abrasive for my liking.
 
GettingKinky said:
I love ICH. It’s my favorite gel since wetline.
I think I’m going to hang out until the end not for the As, but because I like the people there, and I like to support Black businesses. I’ve always found the As a bit to abrasive for my liking.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the digital salon comes back. They’ve been pretty quiet on social media. I don’t think they got quite the response they were looking for.

With COVID and all its adjustments, they seemed overwhelmed. When (if) things go back to normal they might reopen.
 
toaster said:
I think it looks great! But if you don’t like it, you definitely don’t have to do it again.

I think the reason the digital salon recommended using a topper gel or cream or mousse is to solve a problem you’re having with a gel only wash and go. If your issue is frizz, maybe try applying a harder hold gel on top of the uncle funky’s? I use mousse on top of uncle funky’s to give a softer set, dry faster, and provide some protection from the humidity. That’s why it’s my “topper”.

Alternatively, go back to whatever was working with you before! There shouldn’t be hard and fast rules in hair.
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My sister & I have been watching the videos together. I felt attacked when they said not to expect things to work right when you first start lol :spinning: I guess I am being pretty impatient and too quick to call it. Today is wash day again. I’m thinking I’ll stick to this 2x week wash schedule for a while to get my hair to a good spot, moisture wise. Even so, if I wasn’t washing, I think I could wait until Tuesday if I had to. It seems like my hair has settled into the gel-then-mousse and it looks a bit different. I’ve been using large flat silver pins to pull my hair back & experiment with parting in the front.... also, UFD tastes sweet :look:
 
Ok, shortened Pre-Wash routine, skipped the scalp treatment altogether.

After adding water with my hands, I misted over the loose side with the Eden Bodyworks Hibiscus Honey Hair Tonic.
Main detangling agent was The Mane Choice Exotic Cool-Aid Sweet Papaya & Pineapple Infinite Conditioner.
6 braids of removed matting/shedding & detangled hair.
Covered with a plastic conditioning cap.

On my scalp & roots only, I used Qhemet Biologics Egyptian Wheatgrass Cleansing Tea.
For the rest of the length, the Not Your Mother's Sicilian Blood Orange & Black Currant Shampoo.
Eva NYC Therapy Session Hair Mask as my light protein treatment.


Section by section...
Lightly rinsed the roots/scalp, gently unraveled the braid & lightly removed any matting/sheds hair to detangle once more.
Rinsed again, put the section into Bantu Knot.

(On wet-to-damp hair) I smoothed CurlJunkie Beauticurls Leave-In Conditioner, then re-sectioned my hair.
I dampened my hair with my XL microfiber towel from Lexxa Collection.

(On damp hair) I smoothed CurlJunkie Pattern Pusha Gel onto each section.
I'm currently air-drying my hair.



In spite of the literal pain, random dizzy spells... I managed it all!



So I decided to give CurlJunkie Pattern Pusha another go.

I did the mix test months ago, and I forgot to check this time.

Both products are compatible with each other.

The CurlJunkie Beauticurls Leave-In, reminds me of the CurlJunkie Smoothing Lotion.
In terms of scent & slip!
This has a much thicker consistency.
Was easy to apply on my wet-to-damp hair.
Absorbed into my hair, without making it feel dry.
Non-sticky!

It's Glycerin, Protein & Coconut Oil free.


I don't remember if I ever finished my 1st review of CJ Pattern Pusha (sorry, for inconveniencing anyone!)

Ok, so I remembered to keep a light application for each section, and only a few touch-ups.
Hopefully this turns out better than the last time!
I'll try to come back with more info on the hold, etc.
 
Yes! When I started doing wash n go's back as I kept going along I noticed how much better my hair got and my wash n go's. I do think patience is needed, especially depending on the state that your hair is in when starting. My favorite combo is UFD and Trepadora. If I didn't care about the price, I would just stop there at the Trepadora gels lol.
 
Britt said:
Yes! When I started doing wash n go's back as I kept going along I noticed how much better my hair got and my wash n go's. I do think patience is needed, especially depending on the state that your hair is in when starting. My favorite combo is UFD and Trepadora. If I didn't care about the price, I would just stop there at the Trepadora gels lol.
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You know what... just tell me which trepadora gels you like. I’m weak lol
 
toaster said:
You know what... just tell me which trepadora gels you like. I’m weak lol
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Lolllll I love the açaí berry. The papaya slip would be second. When I first started doing wash n go’s and found my groove - I’d use açaí berry and UFD exclusively.... then I said ehhh let me try ICH lol. I was going through the bottle of açaí berry. You might like it since the consistency is lighter, I know you usually use foam.
 
When I had my hair appointment with Mona she mentioned that the parting at my crown seemed a little sparse. She said she wasn’t familiar enough with my hair to know if that was normal for me, or if I was having a little hair loss.

I had an appointment with my dermatologist yesterday for another reason, but I asked her to check my scalp. She said I don’t have any signs of hair loss. My crown is where my hair grows in all different directions, and the longer/heavier my hair gets, the more apparent my scalp will be there as the hair pulls down and away from the scalp.

She’s a black woman and says she has a lot of black women patients that show up with very far stage hair loss in this area, so she was happy that Mona mentioned something, as many hair stylists don’t.

I’m happy to not have signs of hair loss. And I’m happy to know she recommends monthly cortisone shots to stop scalp inflammation, if you do have signs of hair loss.
 
toaster said:
@Shadow_Lace i hope you’re feeling better from your pain and dizzy spells!

I had to purchase a shower bench and I always have to eat before I wash my hair. I’ve found this helps me from feeling weak from the shower heat halfway through.
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Aww thank you so much!!! My physical condition is greatly improved from yesterday!

I need to find something similar! Thank you very much for the tip!
 
Whelp, so much for that!
I was sooo grateful, for the major changes in my overall health yesterday!
I went for a brisk walk, which in turn made my scalp hate me! (I don't exercise nearly as much as I should... so when opportunity knocks?)
So! Here am I again!



Ok so shortened Pre-Wash Routine again.
As I Am JBCO Water as my initial (& only) refresher spray all over my hair.
Parted into 2 sections....
Applied handfuls of lukewarm regular water on the loose hair side.
I used Herbal Essences Smooth Rose Hips Conditioner as my main detangling agent.
3 braids (on either side) of removed matting/shedding & detangled hair.
Covered with a plastic conditioning cap.

I clarified my hair with Curly Hair Solutions Energizing Shampoo.
On my scalp & roots only, I washed it with Qhemet Biologics Egyptian Wheatgrass Cleansing Tea.

For my heavy-duty protein treatment, the Emergencia Keratin Repair Formula Deep Intense Hair Treatment.
As a d/c, I used Briogeo Be Gentle, Be Kind Avocado + Kiwi Mega Moisture Superfoods Mask.

Disclaimer:
While I purchased this mask, long before news of Briogeo's Don't Despair, Repair mask re-formulation.
This may also contain the newest version or at least a similar formula.


Section by section...
I lightly rinsed my scalp/roots, unraveled each braid, lightly detangled & removed any matting/shedding.
Put the detangled section into a Bantu Knot.

(On wet-to-damp hair) I smoothed OGX Pracaxi Oil Combing Cream, then re-sectioned my hair.
I used my XL microfiber towel from Lexxa Collection to dampen my hair.

(On damp hair) I smoothed The CurlDaze Glossy Shine Gel (with Kukui Oil) onto each section.
I'm currently air-drying my hair.


So from the previous wash n go...

CurlJunkie Pattern Pusha is a great botanical gel alternative for glycerin-free, & medium hold.

The flaking was only in 1 area; wherein, I over applied the CJ Pattern Pusha gel, but that's it!


Onto The CurlDaze Glossy Shine Gel (with Kukui Oil)
I stand by my previous review as this being better quality, Black-Owned strong/firm hold gel.
Definitely a great alternative to Xtreme (Wetline) Clear gel or Eco-Style gels.


So finally onto Briogeo...

I actually purchased this mask several months ago (I know, bad me, I have PJ problems...)

The Be Gentle, Be Kind Avocado + Kiwi Mega Moisture Superfoods Mask

Creamy consistency, not too thick but also not too runny.
Light (outside of the container, on my hair) pleasant, sweet scent.

However, while it inside of the tub it has a stronger sweet, fruity scent.
Upon rinsing, it seemed like my hair had an extra boost of moisture.

I don't know if I would use this as my main detangling product.
Since I prefer to do the bulk, of my detangling, prior to washing my hair.
So I can't recommend it for that purpose.


I do know it worked out great in my wash routine.
 
GettingKinky said:
LOL!!

Also as annoying as they can be, I have found that it does take some time to see the best result from their advice. There is a payoff to being patient.
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I agree. I went from not being able to wear a wng to where my curls are actually popping now. My regimen is super easy. I tried for years to wear a wng and never got past a 1 day wear. Now I've figured out how to stretch it for 5 days and its only been 7 months.
 
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