Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge

[GGsKin]

Tried KCCC with Knot Today leave in AGAIN and 10 hours of airdrying later I have frizzy shrunk damp hair with white flex and a gob or two sitting on my strands.

I'm going to try KCCC with other leave ins and KT with other gels to see if there's any salvaging but right about now it ain't looking good.

A few years ago, I used this combo regularly with no other products but the Knot Today used to build up and leave a grey cast on my hair. (I should note, I have issues with most leave-ins coaying my hair in a bad way.) My hair would also feel very sticky and take an eternity to dry when I used KCCC at full strength, even though my hair was soaking wet at application. I stopped using the leave-in and started diluting the gel. It definitely reduced the drying time but still took it's sweet time, and I used to airdry 100%. Using it diluted, KCCC is still the best performing gel I've used on my hair.

 

[DVAntDany]

Sticking to one combo for over a month made me realize a few things.

1. I like the quality of my curls even if I don’t like the style. So I’m not mad that I wear an N95 mask to work everyday. One day I’ll get there.

2. Doing an UFD wash and go 2 or more times a week will drive me mad. It has to be relegated to weekend applications only. I have to use something else mid week that dries within an hour.

3. Predictable results greatly curb my appetite for being a product junkie of stylers.

 

[Bette Davis Eyes]

I never used KT today with KCCC. I always used it by itself. Knot today never did anything for me.

 

[faithVA]

A few years ago, I used this combo regularly with no other products but the Knot Today used to build up and leave a grey cast on my hair. (I should note, I have issues with most leave-ins coaying my hair in a bad way.) My hair would also feel very sticky and take an eternity to dry when I used KCCC at full strength, even though my hair was soaking wet at application. I stopped using the leave-in and started diluting the gel. It definitely reduced the drying time but still took it's sweet time, and I used to airdry 100%. Using it diluted, KCCC is still the best performing gel I've used on my hair.

I have an experience similar to yours. If I use a leave-in, I need to apply water after it to dilute it otherwise it leaves a film.

I don't use a leave-in with KCCC even though they suggest it. I haven't found it added any benefit so I just use the KCCC by itself which works better.

For my hair the KCCC takes longer to dry than the UFD.

I find it the best gel for my hair as well. How much did you dilute it? I know it was diluted heavily as part of the MHM method but I don't remember the ratios.

 

[faithVA]

I’ve only tried using that combo a couple of times, but I followed directions exactly. I used Come Clean, then Knot Today and finally topped off with the Curling Custard. When I felt the weird drag, I added more water until the feeling was gone. I can’t say I had white flakes but it took just as long as UFD to dry. So yeah, I sympathize with you about the dry time.

There are so many people online who have combos to pair with the leave-in or the custard. So your options are endless. Though, many of those same people say to not be heavy handed with the original combo, but I could have put way more on the crown and front area to avoid frizz.

I just know in the tips section of the official kinky curly website they say the following:

WHEN MY HAIR IS DRY I END UP WITH A WHITE FILM / WHITE CHUNKS IN MY HAIR?
Another product you are currently using or have used in the past is not mixing well with the Curling Custard. You must shampoo your hair to remove the buildup.

I USED YOUR COME CLEAN SHAMPOO AND I STILL HAVE WHITE STUFF IN MY HAIR?
Come Clean shampoo will remove mild to moderate buildup. If you have used a heavy duty silicone product or a product with an ingredient like beeswax or lanolin we suggest you mix a pinch of baking soda with the Come Clean shampoo in the palm of your hand and use this to wash your hair. This will clean your hair without using a harsh clarifying shampoo.


MY HAIR FEELS STICKY?
Your hair was not wet enough to allow the product to be diluted and distributed evenly enough. Try again and make sure hair is completely wet when applying the Curling Custard. Keep a spray bottle with water close by to re-wet sections if they start to dry.

I’m not saying you used any product or had residue impeding your results. I know for a fact there are several products that in theory should work but just flake on me. But have you ruled out everything that could cause the white flaking before you give up on the combo? Unfortunately, I don’t think there is any help for the 10 hr dry time.

Thanks for the tips. Good to know that sticky equates with not enough water. I have this issue with any gel. Still need to work through the gel/water ratio.

 

[faithVA]

I never used KT today with KCCC. I always used it by itself. Knot today never did anything for me.

Agreed. I could never see the point of it with the gel. I do use it when I put my hair in twist though. That is the only purpose I've found for it.

 

[faithVA]

Glad I'm working from home. Day 3 hair is fully plastered to my head. I will pull and tug on it later. Maybe when I get decent day 2 and 3 hair, I will do my hair at night and sit under the dryer. For what I get now, it isn't worth the extra effort.

 

[GGsKin]

I have an experience similar to yours. If I use a leave-in, I need to apply water after it to dilute it otherwise it leaves a film.

I don't use a leave-in with KCCC even though they suggest it. I haven't found it added any benefit so I just use the KCCC by itself which works better.

For my hair the KCCC takes longer to dry than the UFD.

I find it the best gel for my hair as well. How much did you dilute it? I know it was diluted heavily as part of the MHM method but I don't remember the ratios.

Maybe its our texture @faithVA? I rarely use a leave-in. I haven't worked it out but most leave-ins are a no go if I'm wearing my hair out. I've found that Olaplex no.6 applied in miniscule amounts can work.

I've never measured accurately but I usually do approx 50:50 water (or in my case hibiscus tea) and KCCC. I mix until it thickens back to a consistent texture. No flakes or stickiness.

 

[faithVA]

Maybe its our texture @faithVA? I rarely use a leave-in. I haven't worked it out but most leave-ins are a no go if I'm wearing my hair out. I've found that Olaplex no.6 applied in miniscule amounts can work.

I've never measured accurately but I usually do approx 50:50 water (or in my case hibiscus tea) and KCCC. I mix until it thickens back to a consistent texture. No flakes or stickiness.

Yeah, not sure what is going on with the leave-ins or creams. I can use KT and TGIN leave-ins OK for certain things. I can't use a cream anything, like for twists. It is just a recipe for another shampoo day.

Thanks for the ratios. I will try it next time I want to wear a puff.

 

[DVAntDany]

@GGsKin and @faithVA It probably does have something to do with your texture and porosity. I'm usually the same way. My hair tends to look dull and dusty when using thick opaque products. I've heard way too many times on SSC society that KT leaves a heavy residue itself. It might be the way the product sticks to the hair strands.

 

[Bette Davis Eyes]

When I wear a washngo I don't use a " leave in" I use two gels. One is lighter and more moisturizing and the second is for hold. I've been doing that for years because leave ins tend to be heavier and dont mix well with the gels Im using.

Only leave in never gave me too many issues is alikay lemongrass leave in.

 

[Napp]

When I wear a washngo I don't use a " leave in" I use two gels. One is lighter and more moisturizing and the second is for hold. I've been doing that for years because leave ins tend to be heavier and dont mix well with the gels Im using.

Only leave in never gave me too many issues is alikay lemongrass leave in.

I want to try this leave in!

 

[toaster]

You guys know I love KKKT/CC together.

Even though I’m super heavy handed, what works best for me is a lot of knot today and minimal curling custard. Great results on my hair.

 

[faithVA]

@GGsKin and @faithVA It probably does have something to do with your texture and porosity. I'm usually the same way. My hair tends to look dull and dusty when using thick opaque products. I've heard way too many times on SSC society that KT leaves a heavy residue itself. It might be the way the product sticks to the hair strands.

Yes opaque products definitely cause me an issue. My hair is already a dusty, reddish brown. The last thing I need is more dust

I can use a leave-in like KT but I add water after to smooth it in. That seems to do the trick for me. I couldn't do anything with the Innsense Hairbath either. Way too thick.

 

[faithVA]

When I wear a washngo I don't use a " leave in" I use two gels. One is lighter and more moisturizing and the second is for hold. I've been doing that for years because leave ins tend to be heavier and dont mix well with the gels Im using.

Only leave in never gave me too many issues is alikay lemongrass leave in.

Is this the spray on one? What does it do for your hair? I could never understand a spray on leave-in. Maybe it would work better on damp hair for me.

 

[GettingKinky]

Every once in a while I get a result that I LOVE LOVE LOVE.
I have one right now. But when I go back and go through my notes I can’t find what the common thread is.
I thought I was clarifying, but I didn’t clarify this time.
I thought it was ICH, but I didn’t use ICH.
I thought maybe it was protein conditioner, but that was only a few times.
Maybe I just need to say a prayer to the hair gods….

 

[faithVA]

Every once in a while I get a result that I LOVE LOVE LOVE.
I have one right now. But when I go back and go through my notes I can’t find what the common thread is.
I thought I was clarifying, but I didn’t clarify this time.
I thought it was ICH, but I didn’t use ICH.
I thought maybe it was protein conditioner, but that was only a few times.
Maybe I just need to say a prayer to the hair gods….

Maybe it is the technique that is the constant and not the products. Maybe!

 

[toaster]

Sitting with olaplex steps 0 and 3 in my hair. Going to wash and detangle this morning. Will style tonight.

I bought inner peace (again) and want to try a literal dime sized amount over Jell-O shot. Hoping it might allow my hair to dry more quickly under the dryer. We’ll see.

 

[DVAntDany]

You guys know I love KKKT/CC together.

Even though I’m super heavy handed, what works best for me is a lot of knot today and minimal curling custard. Great results on my hair.

I totally agree. I really like the KT+CC combo. I even like KT as a rinse out. The combo gives very pliable curls with root definition. I can go from a puff to hanging down without my hair being stuck in the air. When I apply it just right, the roots are fully defined. Like I pull my hair back and my roots aren't puffy, stiff or stuck to my head. There is no need to slick down anything. If it didn't take so long to dry, I'd probably play around with it more.

 

[GettingKinky]

Maybe it is the technique that is the constant and not the products. Maybe!

It could be. I feel like my technique is fairly consistent, but I’m sure there are always variations.
I also wonder if it’s the amount of product I use. That’s why I want to start measuring it.

 

[GettingKinky]

Sitting with olaplex steps 0 and 3 in my hair. Going to wash and detangle this morning. Will style tonight.

I bought inner peace (again) and want to try a literal dime sized amount over Jell-O shot. Hoping it might allow my hair to dry more quickly under the dryer. We’ll see.

I’ve been using Inner Peace over JS. I didn’t really notice a difference in dry time.
this week I used MD over JS and that didn’t seem to make a difference either.

 

[Napp]

I went out today and noticed my hair felt softer. I was waiting for it to soften and fluff up some more. My wash and go is still looking pretty good and I do nothing to maintain the curls. I just seal the ends with some butter 2x a day and keep it covered when I'm not outside. Super easy daily maintenance makes a long wash day worth it!

 

[faithVA]

It could be. I feel like my technique is fairly consistent, but I’m sure there are always variations.
I also wonder if it’s the amount of product I use. That’s why I want to start measuring it.

OK. Yes it could be the amount of product. I increased the amount of product I used this past weekend versus the weekend before and I could tell the difference. For me, I think the issue is I don't increase the water appropriately to account for the change in product.

But I definitely think a different amount of product can change the look. My stylist uses way less product and it gives me that fluffy look. I use slightly more product and it gives me slightly more definition.

Hopefully, having narrowed it down, you can get a repeatable process soon.

 

[toaster]

It’s really interesting how my hair basically has a different shape when I do my hair vs when the stylist does my hair. This is what makes me nervous about getting anything other than a dry cut. Maybe that’s what I’ll do.

 

[yamilee21]

It’s really interesting how my hair basically has a different shape when I do my hair vs when the stylist does my hair.

Are the pictures with the white shirt the ones where the stylist did your hair? Both look good, but in different ways.

 

[toaster]

Are the pictures with the white shirt the ones where the stylist did your hair? Both look good, but in different ways.

Yes, in the white! She did a great job, she just used less product than I do. By day 3 I had to wear my hair in a bun because it wasn’t wearable in my opinion.

When I style my own hair I can wear it down for a week.

 

[toaster]

I can’t take BGC seriously when they can’t spell their name properly. Excellent hair stylists and great education. But they need help as they grow their business.

 

[oneastrocurlie]

5 days seems to be my sweet spot for washing frequency. Takes less time get to my hair saturated because it's not as dry vs if I waited another day or two and less shed hair so detangling is faster/easier. And lately I've been applying my base product all at once in about 4 sections, adding a bunch of water and spreading it through then adding my topper is 8ish section and call it a day. Makes the process go faster for me and still get a nice defined set as a result. My usual process is apply base, then topper smedium section by smedium section.

 

[GettingKinky]

@toaster my hair shape can look different week to week. For sure if I don’t rake well enough my ends look scraggly like I need a cut, but if I do a good job, they look nice and blunt.

 

[toaster]

I want to try this!