Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge

[yamilee21]

I'm thinking it is a never for me I'm thinking classic length and I'm still with an Angela Davis afro

My daughter was classic when stretched/straightened, but *at best,* only APL when curly… and she has relatively “loose” curls. I am starting to think that length weighing down curly hair is a myth, at least for us. On the long hair site with few kinky-coily-curly members, wavy and curly hair really does seem to stretch and straighten up some, of it’s own accord, as it grows longer. It seems so strange to me. There has to be some other factor, besides just length.

 

[faithVA]

My daughter was classic when stretched/straightened, but *at best,* only APL when curly… and she has relatively “loose” curls. I am starting to think that length weighing down curly hair is a myth, at least for us. On the long hair site with few kinky-coily-curly members, wavy and curly hair really does seem to stretch and straighten up some, of it’s own accord, as it grows longer. It seems so strange to me. There has to be some other factor, besides just length.

I would also think your strand size would matter. I would think coarse hair may hang more than medium and definitely fine.

I also think that density matters. Less dense curly hair isn't trying to navigating flowing down over so much other hair.

Those are just the two I can think of but I agree with you there are other factors.

 

[toaster]

@Nightingale I do a sweaty workout at least 5 days a week and what helps me is to pull my hair up in a bun with a silk hair tie on the very top of my head. I leave my hair up until after I shower and get dressed for the day. Keeps my hair from tangling and (this is kind of gross) let’s my head sweat dry so when I take my bun down my curls aren’t disturbed by the moisture.

 

[DVAntDany]

I am planning on wearing wigs and wraps until May/June and then getting a shaping cut. I want to retain length so its a bit longer before I cut my hair so I'm in a super protective style mode. I plan on getting my hair professionally braided every 2 months under the wigs/wraps too to make sure I have a stable foundation. I noticed breakage from me braiding my own hair.

I imagine that’s a great way to give your self a break. I wish wigs looked decent on me.

 

[DVAntDany]

I'm thinking it is a never for me I'm thinking classic length and I'm still with an Angela Davis afro

What’s your shrinkage percentage? Mine looks about 50%. I think I’ll have to be thigh length like L8ter Ivy before I’m APL unstretched.

 

[faithVA]

What’s your shrinkage percentage? Mine looks about 50%. I think I’ll have to be thigh length like L8ter Ivy before I’m APL unstretched.

I'm just guessing but I'm thinking it is about 70%. If I look at my photos my hair stretches to my nape from my crown. Fifty percent would be the crown near the top of my ear. The hair at the crown isn't even half-way between my crown and my ear. I have no idea what that percentage is.

I'm thinking my hair will have to be APL before the crown will be close enough to my ear to have a nice bob cut. I don't foresee my hair even getting close to GettingKinkys length. I may max out at a nape length bob.

We shall see. I may do a wash and go over the xmas break so I have time to let it dry.

 

[GettingKinky]

I'm just guessing but I'm thinking it is about 70%. If I look at my photos my hair stretches to my nape from my crown. Fifty percent would be the crown near the top of my ear. The hair at the crown isn't even half-way between my crown and my ear. I have no idea what that percentage is.

I'm thinking my hair will have to be APL before the crown will be close enough to my ear to have a nice bob cut. I don't foresee my hair even getting close to GettingKinkys length. I may max out at a nape length bob.

We shall see. I may do a wash and go over the xmas break so I have time to let it dry.

I measured my hair stretched and curly once and my shrinkage is between 60-70%.
12 inch hair curled up to 4 inches in my nape and 16 inch hair curled up to 6 inch hair.

Even though I want SL curly hair I don’t see myself getting there anytime soon. Especially if I want to keep a nice shape the entire time.

 

[faithVA]

I measured my hair stretched and curly once and my shrinkage is between 60-70%.
12 inch hair curled up to 4 inches in my nape and 16 inch hair curled up to 6 inch hair.

Even though I want SL curly hair I don’t see myself getting there anytime soon. Especially if I want to keep a nice shape the entire time.

That is helpful. When my hair gets SL, I will measure it and see the difference. I'm thinking right now for every 2 inches I can see 1/4 inch curly but that's just a guess. It may be 1/2 inch. I may track it in 2022.

 

[faithVA]

Another thing I thought about when shampooing my hair. The amount of water your hair can absorb and retain impacts shrinkage as well. The more water your hair can retain the more the hair can hang and for longer.

As my hair gets longer the longer it holds water. But because my hair is low porosity it doesnt hold water as long as a normal porosity head of hair.

Just something I thought of.

 

[GettingKinky]

I washed my hair today after 10 days since I washed it the day before thanksgiving.
Tangle-wise 10 days is too long.

 

[oneastrocurlie]

I washed my hair today after 10 days since I washed it the day before thanksgiving.
Tangle-wise 10 days is too long.

I went nine days once. Never again. Detangling was way more effort.

 

[DVAntDany]

I can go longer without tangles if my hair is still nicely defined at the roots before washing. I can't do that with softer sets. That is the only time I appreciate harder hold. I try not to push past 5 days but I've definitely gone longer when I don't feel well. I have truly regretted doing that with products that don't work well with my hair.

I don't play those detangle games anymore. If it looks like its going to be tangly, I bust out the pre-poo. I also go for the conditioner that has the best combability and slip. Then I use the Wet Brush Thick Hair brush and follow it with another brush like the Felicia Leatherwood, Tangle Teaser for Curly Hair, or shampoo brush with the finger handle.

The Wet Brush for thick hair is really gentle. It just isn't as gentle as the original wet brush. It allows me to go through thicker sections more easily. Also, I watched Felcia Leatherwood and even Sam Villa talk about brushes for detangling. They say to turn them vertically so that all the pins/bristles are even and straight and then brush down. Using the brush horizontally is not as good for knots.

 

[DVAntDany]

The books just opened for January with my stylist. Because I am an out of town client, I have to contact them directly to schedule a weekend appointment. It's been a few days now and no response. I contacted her/her assistant both email and the client login portal.

If for some reason I cant get an appointment and go over 16 weeks, I might just go the next year without a curly cut. After 16 weeks, I will be considered a new client and have to pay those astronomical prices again. I also contacted Mizani and the Texpert Collective weeks ago looking for a Mizani specialist nearish to me. The people at JC Penney who sell their products don't know anything about their texture key nor their techniques.

I might even pop into Ulta and get a blowout and trim. In the past, I've gotten great hair cuts and trims from them, but only for straight hair. They are the one who got me hooked on Redken products in the past.

 

[oneastrocurlie]

The books just opened for January with my stylist. Because I am an out of town client, I have to contact them directly to schedule a weekend appointment. It's been a few days now and no response. I contacted her/her assistant both email and the client login portal.

If for some reason I cant get an appointment and go over 16 weeks, I might just go the next year without a curly cut. After 16 weeks, I will be considered a new client and have to pay those astronomical prices again. I also contacted Mizani and the Texpert Collective weeks ago looking for a Mizani specialist nearish to me. The people at JC Penney who sell their products don't know anything about their texture key nor their techniques.

I might even pop into Ulta and get a blowout and trim. In the past, I've gotten great hair cuts and trims from them, but only for straight hair. They are the one who got me hooked on Redken products in the past.

I don't like that whole new client after X number of weeks policy. Especially if the stylist's books are harder to get into than Fort Knox and/or they aren't responding.

 

[faithVA]

I don't like that whole new client after X number of weeks policy. Especially if the stylist's books are harder to get into than Fort Knox and/or they aren't responding.

I agree. I would push back if they tried to make me a new client. There isn't anything that happens in 16 weeks that they need to make you a new client. Its just a get more money trick.

 

[faithVA]

I'm just venting now. I put up with a lot of foolishness when I was relaxed. I'm not going to put up with a lot of foolishness from stylist just because they are doing curly. I'm all for growing business and making your money but yeah I've been there and done that with those other folk

 

[GettingKinky]

I can go longer without tangles if my hair is still nicely defined at the roots before washing. I can't do that with softer sets. That is the only time I appreciate harder hold. I try not to push past 5 days but I've definitely gone longer when I don't feel well. I have truly regretted doing that with products that don't work well with my hair.

I don't play those detangle games anymore. If it looks like its going to be tangly, I bust out the pre-poo. I also go for the conditioner that has the best combability and slip. Then I use the Wet Brush Thick Hair brush and follow it with another brush like the Felicia Leatherwood, Tangle Teaser for Curly Hair, or shampoo brush with the finger handle.

The Wet Brush for thick hair is really gentle. It just isn't as gentle as the original wet brush. It allows me to go through thicker sections more easily. Also, I watched Felcia Leatherwood and even Sam Villa talk about brushes for detangling. They say to turn them vertically so that all the pins/bristles are even and straight and then brush down. Using the brush horizontally is not as good for knots.

When my hair is super tangly I always turn my brush vertically. It makes a big difference.

 

[oneastrocurlie]

I'm just venting now. I put up with a lot of foolishness when I was relaxed. I'm not going to put up with a lot of foolishness from stylist just because they are doing curly. I'm all for growing business and making your money but yeah I've been there and done that with those other folk

That's one of the reasons I have a back up stylist. Or at least keep a few names in my back pocket. Just in case someone starts a policy I'm not feeling. I really like my stylist, her policies are cool, but if she ever goes sideways on something... Adios.

I realize I'm lucky to be in an area where there's a few curly stylists. But I'm kinda of like that with all services.

 

[toaster]

@DVAntDany @faithVA @oneastrocurlie the new client after 16 weeks thing is such a scam. I can’t even get an appointment with you within the time frame because you work 2 days a week for 3 hours, but that’s my fault? Nope.

2022 may see the return of me self trimming…

 

[toaster]

In an effort to save water/my sanity I got up and worked out this morning. Washed, conditioned and detangled my hair and then started working (from home).

my hair is in 6 twists with conditioner in it. Tonight I’ll rinse and style with my gels.

Going to order a few slap caps to wear on wash days so I don’t look crazy in my video calls.

 

[Nightingale]

@Nightingale I do a sweaty workout at least 5 days a week and what helps me is to pull my hair up in a bun with a silk hair tie on the very top of my head. I leave my hair up until after I shower and get dressed for the day. Keeps my hair from tangling and (this is kind of gross) let’s my head sweat dry so when I take my bun down my curls aren’t disturbed by the moisture.

Thanks, I'll try this.

 

[Napp]

I only want to try out matrix a curl can dream leave in and gel and ecoslay jello shot. I'm hoping my wishlist stays short by the time I go back to wash and goes

 

[toaster]

My ecoslay is out for delivery today!!! Jell-O shot is the best gel. Excited to try orange marmalade.

 

[DVAntDany]

Yay, they finally contacted me back. It still costs more for 16 weeks. I think its $200. The 12/14 weeks is $165 and 4/8 weeks $145. I need approval first for the express cut (only a cut) which is $100. I need to get to this point and I wont mind so much.

I don't understand considering a client brand new after 4 months of not seeing the stylist either. I didn't even feel that I needed my ends to be clipped for my first two appointments. In fact, going through this who process has made me a product junkie because going to a professional was far from being the solution to my hair woes. It actually created more problems especially for my shape.

I have a single strand knot that's been on my ends since I first tried Ouidad for the the fast dry wash and go. It was never cut off during my last curly cut. Every time I use Ouidad anything I wind up getting a single strand knot. Its something in their products that causes my hair to tangle or feel very weird in texture.

 

[DVAntDany]

I only want to try out matrix a curl can dream leave in and gel and ecoslay jello shot. I'm hoping my wishlist stays short by the time I go back to wash and goes

My wish list is still big. I'm still trying to narrow mine down.

 

[DVAntDany]

My ecoslay is out for delivery today!!! Jell-O shot is the best gel. Excited to try orange marmalade.

I'm so ready for somebody to try the orange marmalade.

 

[Napp]

My wish list is still big. I'm still trying to narrow mine down.

Why do you think your list is so long?

 

[GettingKinky]

My ecoslay is out for delivery today!!! Jell-O shot is the best gel. Excited to try orange marmalade.

You like jello shot better than KCCC?

 

[GettingKinky]

I'm so ready for somebody to try the orange marmalade.

Me too!!

 

[toaster]

You like jello shot better than KCCC?

Hmm. I haven’t tried KCCC in a while, actually. With knot today, that gave me a great wash and go, but honestly UFD and Jell-O shot work so well for me I don’t have a great desire to buy KCCC again.

Where knot today/KCCC has a leg up for me is travel. No refrigeration needed. No pump bottles. Just easier for that purpose.