Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge

LavenderMint said:
Everyone’s hair looks amazing!! @toaster that definition at the scalp after 9 days w/a daily workout?? Chef’s kiss!

I tried the JelloShot gel 2x… once on naked hair and once over UFD… count me in the minority that does not like it. More than likely, it’s my humid environment; Maryland has been like soup lately. It never really dried down and had a hard cast even after an extended time under the dryer; perhaps it would work better when it cools down & dries out some, so it’s going to live in my fridge until November or so.

I’m also trying not to be discouraged but I’m still having issues with gel not settling (or staying settled) in the front of my hair. It will sit on top of my head and eventually form little balls that look awful but it doesn’t look like this initially!! It only happens with the top front of my head.
I wondered if it was because that area usually gets gel last and so dries out. Last 2 washes I’ve done that section first with both gels (UFD & Earthtone Naturals) while it was still dripping wet. Once those little icky sections form, it takes forever to wash out- no matter how long I spend under the water, requiring a double or even triple wash with a clarifying shampoo like kinky curly come clean. I’m so frustrated and clueless that I’m almost at the point where I don’t want to wear the front of my hair loose. Maybe I should consider a different gel for the front half of my head? I just don’t know.
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Same thing happened to me. When I first used it back in April, I had the hard cast, but it won't set hard anymore. I plan to pull it out again in the Fall too.

Are the little balls a recent issue? No change in products/routine?
 
LavenderMint said:
Everyone’s hair looks amazing!! @toaster that definition at the scalp after 9 days w/a daily workout?? Chef’s kiss!

I tried the JelloShot gel 2x… once on naked hair and once over UFD… count me in the minority that does not like it. More than likely, it’s my humid environment; Maryland has been like soup lately. It never really dried down and had a hard cast even after an extended time under the dryer; perhaps it would work better when it cools down & dries out some, so it’s going to live in my fridge until November or so.

I’m also trying not to be discouraged but I’m still having issues with gel not settling (or staying settled) in the front of my hair. It will sit on top of my head and eventually form little balls that look awful but it doesn’t look like this initially!! It only happens with the top front of my head.
I wondered if it was because that area usually gets gel last and so dries out. Last 2 washes I’ve done that section first with both gels (UFD & Earthtone Naturals) while it was still dripping wet. Once those little icky sections form, it takes forever to wash out- no matter how long I spend under the water, requiring a double or even triple wash with a clarifying shampoo like kinky curly come clean. I’m so frustrated and clueless that I’m almost at the point where I don’t want to wear the front of my hair loose. Maybe I should consider a different gel for the front half of my head? I just don’t know.
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I remember you having this problem in the old fall/winter wash and go thread. You must have tried a few product combos since then. I wish I could help you troubleshoot but wouldn't know where to begin working out why this happens to you, especially the difficulty with washing the product out. Could it be an environmental reaction? It's almost like your hair doesn't like gel on a chemical level.
 
sunshinebeautiful said:
Same thing happened to me. When I first used it back in April, I had the hard cast, but it won't set hard anymore. I plan to pull it out again in the Fall too.

Are the little balls a recent issue? No change in products/routine?
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It’s been ongoing but this is the worst it’s ever been. I snapped a pic in the dentists office since the lights were so bright. This isn’t the best pic but the only one that would upload
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@GettingKinky not really… the salon I go to for cuts is nice for that. They don’t seem to have as much experience/knowledge of wng on coily hair. When I leave from there, my hair is usually very fluffy and undefined, only lasting about two days and they use UFD & ICV.
@GGsKin I think it could partly be environmental and partly my hair and probably also partly technique. Maybe it’s the product combo because when I only used Wetline, back in the day, this didn’t happen. I think. But it’s literally JUST the very front 2 inches from ear to ear that will do this, & it won’t even be all over. Very frustrating.

I might need to join See Some Curls to get answers (all the Cut It Kinky alumni stylists in my area are at least 90min away) and I realllllllllly don’t want to spend that money.
 
LavenderMint said:
It’s been ongoing but this is the worst it’s ever been. I snapped a pic in the dentists office since the lights were so bright. This isn’t the best pic but the only one that would upload
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@GettingKinky not really… the salon I go to for cuts is nice for that. They don’t seem to have as much experience/knowledge of wng on coily hair. When I leave from there, my hair is usually very fluffy and undefined, only lasting about two days and they use UFD & ICV.
@GGsKin I think it could partly be environmental and partly my hair and probably also partly technique. Maybe it’s the product combo because when I only used Wetline, back in the day, this didn’t happen. I think. But it’s literally JUST the very front 2 inches from ear to ear that will do this, & it won’t even be all over. Very frustrating.

I might need to join See Some Curls to get answers (all the Cut It Kinky alumni stylists in my area are at least 90min away) and I realllllllllly don’t want to spend that money.
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Hmm, I have until the 28th until my membership is up. I can search to see if I can find anything but I don’t recall coming across anyone talking about Jell-O shot or earth tones. I’ve heard that they discussed those brands in the digital salon. Maybe ask on the Facebook group.

They recently added the see some curls society but they don’t stray too far from the recommended product list.
 
Hey @LavenderMint my 4b sections above my ears holds on to product if it’s creamy and doesn’t work with my topper. My 4a sections that doesn’t happen unless both products don’t work well together. . If I use a clay wash right after a heavy styler then clay will stick to my strands and then the gel forms small balls on top then forcing me to clarify to get everything off my strands.

I also get flakes in that area first because it’s not emulsified fully into my 4b strands because they clump together but don’t curl. My 4a strands curls so the product slides through it and the curls separate. That doesn’t happen above my ears because the curls clump together in s’s and form a cloud of curls
 
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Bette Davis Eyes said:
Hey @LavenderMint my 4b sections above my ears holds on to product if it’s creamy and doesn’t work with my topper. My 4a sections that doesn’t happen unless both products don’t work well together. . If I use a clay wash right after a heavy styler then clay will stick to my strands and then the gel forms small balls on top then forcing me to clarify to get everything off my strands.

I also get flakes in that area first because it’s not emulsified fully into my 4b strands because they clump together but don’t curl. My 4a strands curls so the product slides through it and the curls separate. That doesn’t happen above my ears because the curls clump together in s’s and form a cloud of curls
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The clumping together and forming a cloud is very much what I just saw happen. I ccs tonight and applied the UFD in the shower to the trouble spot and had to get out of the shower for the rest. The front section, despite being drowned in UFD, seemed to either drink it or magic it away and was fluffy sclouds about halfway down.
As far as product combos go, I’m trying not to get into Trepadora or Innersense until I use up (or give away) more of what I have.

@DVAntDany thank you! It’s ok if no one has talked about it. I don’t think I joined the fb group so I’ll have to check that out. I have all my notes & pdf files from the digital salon so I’ll revisit those.
 
$30 for shipping ONE product from Trepadora? even with the sale that’s a LOT.
I decided to check because the A from the last BGC Instagram live replied to just buy it from the company’s website when someone mentioned it’s sold out everywhere. She said it so casually, too, as if to say she couldn’t understand why you wouldn’t buy from their site to begin with.

I don’t know if I want Papaya Slip that much.
 
LavenderMint said:
$30 for shipping ONE product from Trepadora? even with the sale that’s a LOT.
I decided to check because the A from the last BGC Instagram live replied to just buy it from the company’s website when someone mentioned it’s sold out everywhere. She said it so casually, too, as if to say she couldn’t understand why you wouldn’t buy from their site to begin with.

I don’t know if I want Papaya Slip that much.
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I couldn't do it. I found a local hair stylist who was selling Trepadora products and bought from her. That shipping is insane.
 
Today’s combo

shampoo : Innersense color radiance + Elucence moisture

conditioner: briogeo BGBK aloe + oat (I LOVE this conditioner) it’s isn’t really slippy but it does a great job

stylers: UFD/JS/MD

dry: diffuse for 10 minutes. Hair is 60-70% dry

I love this combo. I really hope the change in UFD ingredients is not real.
 
@LavenderMint I didn’t see too much on Ecoslay Jello-Shot nor Eartones. There seemed to only be one post when I searched for the Jell-O shot. Looks like many use it as a topper. They use it over UFD or UFD + ICH. More water for softer hold or less water for harder hold. No one spoke of it balling up.

The trepadora papya slip just goes out fast on sites like https://boldkulture.com/. I bought the little bottle that wasn’t really cost effective but that’s all they had. The stylist I was going to originally purchase from was out of stock. When it arrived in the mail the next week, they had the big bottle back in stock on the website. A week later they were out all over again.

Its really a waiting game. Just so you know, I purchase a bday gift from Emolyne Cosmetics from the UK for my cousin. It took over a month to come. The papya slip will probably be back in stock before your purchase makes it to you from Trepadora.
 
I’m trying to get my aunt on board the wash and go train, but with her price range. So I’ve been testing out some products to suggest for her. I’m not going to lie, that African Pride Moisture Miracle Aloe and Coconut Water Curl Defining Gel works pretty well. It gives great clumping/definition and won’t even become dinted under a hat. It does feel producty but it’s not super crunchy. My hair even shakes which it doesn’t usually do.
https://ibb.co/DkdryfM
 
My hair turned out cute! I have some areas that dried white, so I need to adjust my product usage.

Used the it’s a 10 coily leave in, coated my hair in UFD, and then used a medium amount of it’s a 10 coily gel.

The floral fragrance is a little overwhelming and I’m pretty sure neither product is water soluble.

will see how it wears this week.
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DVAntDany said:
I’m trying to get my aunt on board the wash and go train, but with her price range. So I’ve been testing out some products to suggest for her. I’m not going to lie, that African Pride Moisture Miracle Aloe and Coconut Water Curl Defining Gel works pretty well. It gives great clumping/definition and won’t even become dinted under a hat. It does feel producty but it’s not super crunchy. My hair even shakes which it doesn’t usually do.
https://ibb.co/DkdryfM
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So cute!!
 
toaster said:
My hair turned out cute! I have some areas that dried white, so I need to adjust my product usage.

Used the it’s a 10 coily leave in, coated my hair in UFD, and then used a medium amount of it’s a 10 coily gel.

The floral fragrance is a little overwhelming and I’m pretty sure neither product is water soluble.

will see how it wears this week.
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It looks like a winning combo so far! I would have never know it had some white spots.
 
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