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sunshinebeautiful said:
A few weeks ago, Aishia was calling this combo a wash and fro. Now she's calling it a quick dry wash and go now. I did a test run on Sunday and it worked out pretty well.

After shampooing and conditioning, I saturated my hair with Mousse Def and then layered with Jello Shot (she used the Ouidad Anti-Humidity gel instead - I didn't since I don't have that product).

I was away from home, staying in a hotel, and only had the in-room blow dryer. My hair was dry in 20 minutes, maybe? Since then I've been to the beach, slept on it two nights, and it's still going strong.
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I may have to try this combo. She said on IG that how she sets her hair with this combo is important. Did she do anything different?
 
toaster said:
Speaking of olaplex, I’ve really enjoyed using steps 0 and 3 every other wash.

I’m not sure that it’s doing anything to help my hair, but I’d like to think it’s helping my ends stay in tact since I go 6 months between trims.
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I feel like I get less shed hairs when I use 0 and 3. I finished up my bottles recently. I may repurchase during Sephoras fall sale.
 
GettingKinky said:
I may have to try this combo. She said on IG that how she sets her hair with this combo is important. Did she do anything different?
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She is now calling it a fast drying wash and go. What she is doing is using a mousse not as directed. Mousse usually goes on damp hair, but she puts it on soaking wet hair. Next, she coats the mousse with a topper. She is using a topper that is light weight and dries quicker. That is all to the technique. I guess the topper gives a few extra days.

I've tried mousse by itself on both damp and wet hair. On towel dried damp hair you can easily air dry and be completely dry in an hour or so. On wet hair, air drying leaves a shiny white and sudsy looking residue that can easily be scrunched away. It dries clear under a hooded dryer. If you plan to wash your hair everyday or every 2 days then mousse is a great solution on its own

I tested out the fast drying wash and go with a light weight mouse ( Maui Moisture Mousse) and topper with The Doux Pop Lock. It dried quick and felt lightweight but slightly crispy.
 
Hey Ladies, I have an update. For nearly 5 months I stuck to the Black Girl Curls method of doing a wash and go. From March until my first Cut It Kinky stylist appointment in May, I did the hair detox. During that time, I only used either UFD curly magic or The Doux Mousse Def as my styler. My primary shampoo and conditioner were AG Naturals and when I washed more frequently Innersense Hydrating Hair Bath.

For my appointment I received a slight haircut and was given step by step instructions on how to do a wash and go. Some of the info differed slightly from the A's, but for the most part it was like the See Some Curls Digital Library. I liked my slight haircut, but it wasn't really what I wanted. I guess I needed more length in the front for it to look worth something. One of my friends said I had a mini Fredrick Douglas doo with that side part. I also found out that I wasn't able to get the angles she had after I washed it. It looked even more like a blob and just shorter on the back/sides.

The biggest take away from the appointment was that it was possible to get root definition. I went out and bought Trepadora Papaya Slip and started using the oh so popular 3 gel combo of UFD, ICH and Papaya Slip. This combo gives me shine, definition from root to tip, and removes frizz. My only issues are that it takes over an hour to dry under a hooded dryer and I have absolutely no volume. There is no such thing as day 5/7 hair unless I stretch the roots. Root stretching is a must otherwise I look like I have a limp jerry curl. Also, I finally got around to putting up my shower mirror and that totally changed the game too.

I had plans to go back to my 16 week appointment to get my ends trimmed, learn how to get more volume and discuss growing out my hair/cutting to get a real hairstyle. So I alternated back and forth with that combo or using the mousse until I found out my Cut It Kinky stylist changed her schedule. In fact, both of the Alabama Cut It Kinky Alumni no longer provide weekend appointments with their New Curl Order agenda. I'm so disappointed that I will have to drive out of state and pay that initial cost all over when I'm ready to deal with a stylist again. I don't want to go through the headache of trying to find a stylist who specializes in cutting curly hair/styling wash and goes outside of Cut It Kinky.

Since that time, I decided to revisit some of the products I used in the beginning before the detox. Turns out I still hate what I hated before and still like what I liked. The products I liked work better now that I've gotten the technique down pat.

Just a few random last things I want to add. I quit all of my hair subscriptions this month. I'm too lazy to figure out Hydrabar's smoothing technique with the shower brush. I invested in stock with Curlmix back in April but just now trying out their products. I actually like them. I have a love/hate relationship with mousse. It's only one day hair. What I thought was horrible acne was really pityrosporum folliculitis aka fungal acne. It's caused by the same yeast that is attributed to seborrheic dermatitis. I should probably wash my hair daily instead of pushing it 5 to 7 days. It's a seborrheic dermatitis flare up in the making. Looking at Anthony Dickey's method. When I actually leave my house, strangers ask me how I get my hair curly. Even though I explain how, they are disappointed that this is my natural hair texture and not a twist out or something.
 
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@DVAntDany Thanks for such a thorough recap!

I definitely think it’s possible to get good root definition (and it gets easier as your hair grows) but you’re right, it takes a lot of product, small parts to actually get to the root, and you lose initial volume.

I can wear my hair in a wash and go for 7-9 days and by the 6th day I have a little more volume, but not much. I prefer my hair to be defined root to tip instead of having a voluminous wash and go that stays defined for 2-3 days.

I’m sure there’s a middle ground, but I don’t know what it is.

I have no interest in hair subscriptions or forums that aren’t LHCF. I have the information I need for my hair to flourish and a lot of other information is free.
 
@DVAntDany - I was wondering what happened to you.
I’m glad you are getting the definition you want. For sure there is a trade off between definition/longevity and volume. I think I’m in a middle ground. I have volume on day 1 but by day 5-7 I’m usually in a puff. But after I got my CIK cut last month I’m more willing to wear my hair out after it starts to frizz.

That sucks about your stylist not taking weekend appointment. My stylist is far enough away that there is no way I could see her on a work day.
 
@toaster and @GettingKinky I haven’t forgotten about you all. I was dealing with life and was just trying to get acclimated to the black girl curls wash and go routine.

My problem is that it looks like I have no style when my hair is flat and limp. It honestly looked like I needed a hair cut or something the first wash after my appointment. The moment there is volume from using just mousse or taking the time stretch roots with a gel set, then my hair looks decent.

i was trying to take the A’s advice and let it expand over time, but that doesn’t seem to work. Even the stylist had to use the handheld blow dryer after I finished sitting under the dryer. She even told me to use a blow dryer with a concentrator nozzle everyday to un-flatten my hair in the morning instead of using my hands. Basically to just blow it for the volume.

I think I can deal with ultra defined flat hair if I had length. Also, the little haircut took away my length in the back and sides. I’m not sure I can even make a puff now.


@toaster You are right. The forum and free info is enough. It boils down to practice to really take in and understand all of these wash and go methods.

@GettingKinky Im in the same boat as you with the stylist. The one I did go to was a little more than 2hrs away and only does mid morning appointments. Plus she is in the total opposite direction for any other needs in my life. Now everyone out of state who do weekends are 4 hours away.
 
I have a really busy weekend and I don’t have time to style my hair. Plus I just got my grays colored today and this stylist doesn’t know how to do wash n gos so I Ieave with wet naked hair. I think tomorrow morning I’ll cowash and then put my hair in a puff with kinky curly leave in and foam.
next weekend I’ll resume my usual process.
 
I havent washed my hair. Need to though. Im going to be getting a wig installed for the first time ever next Friday so Im going to go into stretched styles next wash day to keep my hair as pulled out as possible. I'might wash today depending on whats going on after work. If not, Sunday after I get off from work.

Knowing me I only wear the thing for a day. I really wanna see how a bob looks on me.
 
Bette Davis Eyes said:
I havent washed my hair. Need to though. Im going to be getting a wig installed for the first time ever next Friday so Im going to go into stretched styles next wash day to keep my hair as pulled out as possible. I'might wash today depending on whats going on after work. If not, Sunday after I get off from work.

Knowing me I only wear the thing for a day. I really wanna see how a bob looks on me.
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Ooh can’t wait to hear about your new wig!
 
Apparently UFD has either been using the wrong label for curly magic for who knows how long or changed the formula and doesn't want to admit it. People are getting bottles with glycerin, jojoba oil and hydrolyzed whey protein listed in the ingredients.

They say nothing has changed, they are just updating the labeling.

Either way, not a good look.
 
oneastrocurlie said:
Apparently UFD has either been using the wrong label for curly magic for who knows how long or changed the formula and doesn't want to admit it. People are getting bottles with glycerin, jojoba oil and hydrolyzed whey protein listed in the ingredients.

They say nothing has changed, they are just updating the labeling.

Either way, not a good look.
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Wow. I just ordered two more bottles!

If I had to switch, I would use knot today as my base gel/leave in.
 
toaster said:
Wow. I just ordered two more bottles!

If I had to switch, I would use knot today as my base gel/leave in.
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I'd be curious to know what your labeling says. If they are changing the labels then I would think they'd also update the ingredient listing on line. Even on their own site it's not updated to reflect the "new" ingredient listing. Seems suspicious.
 
oneastrocurlie said:
Apparently UFD has either been using the wrong label for curly magic for who knows how long or changed the formula and doesn't want to admit it. People are getting bottles with glycerin, jojoba oil and hydrolyzed whey protein listed in the ingredients.

They say nothing has changed, they are just updating the labeling.

Either way, not a good look.
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If the 'new' listing is correct, that alone could make me stop using. Glycerin is not a friend to my hair.
 
oneastrocurlie said:
I'd be curious to know what your labeling says. If they are changing the labels then I would think they'd also update the ingredient listing on line. Even on their own site it's not updated to reflect the "new" ingredient listing. Seems suspicious.
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I just double checked. All of my bottles have the same labeling (no glycerin or protein in the list). I ordered just this week from Amazon, in case anyone needs to stock up.

Very suspicious.
 
GGsKin said:
If the 'new' listing is correct, that alone could make me stop using. Glycerin is not a friend to my hair.
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This is why I find this situation wack. They are trying to say the product we all know and is very well liked has had glycerin and protein in it the whole time? I know everyone responses to protein differently but I feel like more people would say it made their hair hard or stiff if they are protein sensitive and it's really listed that high on the ingredient list.

When I use UFD and it's humid my hair does feel like it's pulling moisture from the air. So has it really had glycerin this whole time? I am confusion.

ETA: a picture of the bottle.
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Hmm, this UFD issue seems pretty suspect. I haven't looked at the ingredient lists to compare. Is it a situation of products being used in such small quantities that they do not need to be listed? I'm pretty sure glycerin would be pretty high on the list though.

My hair loves glycerin (especially the spongy areas) and the UFD bottles I have used don't act like glycerin.
 
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