Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge

[GettingKinky]

That is good to know. I'm not sure at what length my hair starts to have weight. The front is 6 inches and it still doesn't have much weight. Maybe it is between 8 and 10.

The picture is without product. I love my hair with no product. But as soon as I put anything on it to me it is ruined But maybe I will figure that out.

@that_loulou on IG styles her son’s hair without any product and it always looks good. Maybe her techniques would work well for you.

 

[GettingKinky]

I'm trying to figure out how to get the KCCC method to work because I'm not a fan of ICH lol.

So after you apply the KCKT do you rewet your hair slightly and then add the KCCC? (The container says to add KCCC on very wet hair for tight coils but I'm afraid that it will remove the KCKT I added to my hair.)

Do you apply KCCC in the shower or out of the shower?

I know the As recommended adding some water to KCCC in an applicator bottle. I tried that earlier this week and think I added too much water. I'll try again with less water.

I didn’t like the As method of diluting the custard. I never got a gel cast that way.
I would apply the custard in smallish sections straight from the jar.
Why don’t you like ICH?

 

[faithVA]

@that_loulou on IG styles her son’s hair without any product and it always looks good. Maybe her techniques would work well for you.

Thanks. I'm going to try some different things once I can wear a puff. I'm afraid to experiment right now because if it doesn't work out I don't have a back up. I would have to redo my hair and sigh, that sounds painful

 

[toaster]

I think this Sunday I’ll try a UFD/KCCC wash and go. Undecided if I’ll apply KCCC in the shower or out. In the shower is certainly less messy.

 

[bubbles12345]

I didn’t like the As method of diluting the custard. I never got a gel cast that way.
I would apply the custard in smallish sections straight from the jar.
Why don’t you like ICH?

I don't think I know how to use ICH. When I use it with UFD, sometimes it messes up my definition immediately and it dries really hard. Is it supposed to be hard like that? Lol

I get more coils with the KCKTCC method.

 

[GettingKinky]

I don't think I know how to use it. When I use it with UFD, sometimes it messes up my definition immediately and it dries really hard. Is it supposed to be hard like that? Lol

I get more coils with the KCKTCC method.

I’ve never tried KCCC with UFD. I’ve only used it with KCKT.

 

[faithVA]

I don't think I know how to use ICH. When I use it with UFD, sometimes it messes up my definition immediately and it dries really hard. Is it supposed to be hard like that? Lol

I get more coils with the KCKTCC method.

How much ICH are you using? It should dry hard to provide a cast. But perhaps you may be using more than you need.

 

[faithVA]

I watched a yt video on Jackie's Beauty Bar yesterday. Sorry if this was posted but I did a search and nada came up.

Jackie's Beauty Bar

I'm going to try her way of applying product and doing smaller sections without worrying about getting the outer layer and adding more water. I'm not going to do the ICH at this time. But I did find it interesting that she did the ICH right behind the UFD.

I really love that dryer. I want one of those.

 

[faithVA]

I'm prepping my hair today to color this weekend. I shampooed, conditioned and then added a light layer of KKNT. Will see how this dries.

I think my bang is low porosity which is why it puffs up. It is very thirsty and I'm not sure how to get enough water into Peppermint Patty.

 

[toaster]

I watched a yt video on Jackie's Beauty Bar yesterday. Sorry if this was posted but I did a search and nada came up.

Jackie's Beauty Bar

I'm going to try her way of applying product and doing smaller sections without worrying about getting the outer layer and adding more water. I'm not going to do the ICH at this time. But I did find it interesting that she did the ICH right behind the UFD.

I really love that dryer. I want one of those.

Oooh that’s how I do my hair! This notion of getting all the product on my hair and then going back in to smooth and style never made sense to me. I go in small sections and do everything in sections. It works! Really gets to the roots!

and Peppermint Patty

 

[faithVA]

Oooh that’s how I do my hair! This notion of getting all the product on my hair and then going back in to smooth and style never made sense to me. I go in small sections and do everything in sections. It works! Really gets to the roots!

and Peppermint Patty

Cool. That's how I used to do it. But when I started watching the A's I tried to do it that way. I can't seem to master that way even after a year.

I know you have told us a thousand times. Will you please share your process again or give me a link to where you talk about it?

Do you have to add water as you go?

One thing she did which I thought was interesting is that she put the ICH in her hand and then added water. And when the young lady did it herself, she didn't really worry about the hair being really defined after the UFD. She used the brush and then added the ICH and it looked fine. This method seems to allow for the hair not to be perfect at every step.

 

[toaster]

Cool. That's how I used to do it. But when I started watching the A's I tried to do it that way. I can't seem to master that way even after a year.

I know you have told us a thousand times. Will you please share your process again or give me a link to where you talk about it?

Do you have to add water as you go?

One thing she did which I thought was interesting is that she put the ICH in her hand and then added water. And when the young lady did it herself, she didn't really worry about the hair being really defined after the UFD. She used the brush and then added the ICH and it looked fine. This method seems to allow for the hair not to be perfect at every step.

I’m always happy to share. I love hair and this forum and I hope it never dies.

I clip my hair up into 3 sections before I get in the shower. Two in the back and one in the front.

I take one section down, shampoo, condition and detangle that section. I clip it back up with the conditioner in, and move to the next section.

Once all three sections are cleansed and conditioned and detangled, I go back to the first section to style. I rinse the conditioner well and my hair is soaking wet. I apply UFD to that section and the water immediately stops dripping. Then (without adding more water) I part the section as I go, so I take a small part of the bottom section and apply my topper (earthtones, the doux gel or mousse, anything really) and apply that in smaller sections (usually 6). This is when I rake and smooth and worry about definition.

Once that section is styled, I clip it out of the way and move on to the next section.

There’s no way I could just wet all of my hair at once and apply product to the outside. The inside would never have product on it. I prefer working in sections and then breaking those down. It keeps me organized and I never miss a part of my hair.

I do think if I just cleansed and conditioned in the shower but fully styled out of the shower I would try that adding water in the palm of my hand trick.

Applying product on wet hair definitely helps with the curl definition.

 

[faithVA]

I’m always happy to share. I love hair and this forum and I hope it never dies.

I clip my hair up into 3 sections before I get in the shower. Two in the back and one in the front.

I take one section down, shampoo, condition and detangle that section. I clip it back up with the conditioner in, and move to the next section.

Once all three sections are cleansed and conditioned and detangled, I go back to the first section to style. I rinse the conditioner well and my hair is soaking wet. I apply UFD to that section and the water immediately stops dripping. Then (without adding more water) I part the section as I go, so I take a small part of the bottom section and apply my topper (earthtones, the doux gel or mousse, anything really) and apply that in smaller sections (usually 6). This is when I rake and smooth and worry about definition.

Once that section is styled, I clip it out of the way and move on to the next section.

There’s no way I could just wet all of my hair at once and apply product to the outside. The inside would never have product on it. I prefer working in sections and then breaking those down. It keeps me organized and I never miss a part of my hair.

I do think if I just cleansed and conditioned in the shower but fully styled out of the shower I would try that adding water in the palm of my hand trick.

Applying product on wet hair definitely helps with the curl definition.

Oh that is very descriptive. Thank you. So you rinse the conditioner out of each section right before you apply the UFD? That makes a lot of since. They there isn't any worry about it drying out. I may not have the length to do that. Maybe I can try rinsing out the back and then twisting it into sections. Something to think about.

 

[oneastrocurlie]

Im a small section at a timer too when styling. My stylist does the same but she sprays each section with water first.

 

[toaster]

Oh that is very descriptive. Thank you. So you rinse the conditioner out of each section right before you apply the UFD? That makes a lot of since. They there isn't any worry about it drying out. I may not have the length to do that. Maybe I can try rinsing out the back and then twisting it into sections. Something to think about.

Yep! It definitely helps that I can clip sections of my hair out of the way, but leaving the conditioner in until right before I apply UFD helps with the hair not drying out. It seems like your hair is growing to the point where you can do some sections! Give it a try when you feel comfortable.

 

[GettingKinky]

I also work in smaller sections.

- I shampoo all my hair at once
- I apply conditioner - a lot- in 4 sections
- Then I go back to each section and detangle and clip it back up
- I rinse all the conditioner at one time and section in 4 again
- I apply styler#1 to each section and make sure it’s well coated
- I apply styler #2 to each section and rake and smooth before I move on to the next one

 

[faithVA]

So should I follow @toaster method or the @GettingKinky method?

Since my hair is still short and I don't think I can rinse out out condition in one section without rinsing out the gel I just applied I think I will try rinsing everything out and pinning it up and then try doing it by sections.

I will figure it out tomorrow.

 

[kimpaur]

I decided to try PopLock alone and I am in LOVE.

I had mixed results as a topper but I absolutely love it alone! The definition is insane. It truly is a one product WNG (though I did add Copper hair makeup,strictly for aesthetics) My hair also got close to completely dry in like 25 minutes-altogether it couldn’t have taken me but an hour and some change to do my hair today

The only negative is my scalp is a tad bit itchy for some reason,but I’ll just have to see how it goes over the next few days

 

[GettingKinky]

I decided to try PopLock alone and I am in LOVE.

I had mixed results as a topper but I absolutely love it alone! The definition is insane. It truly is a one product WNG (though I did add Copper hair makeup,strictly for aesthetics) My hair also got close to completely dry in like 25 minutes-altogether it couldn’t have taken me but an hour and some change to do my hair today

The only negative is my scalp is a tad bit itchy for some reason,but I’ll just have to see how it goes over the next few days

I am not going to be tempted to buy another product even though a 1 product WnG sounds perfect. Was there a big learning curve with it?

 

[faithVA]

I decided to try PopLock alone and I am in LOVE.

I had mixed results as a topper but I absolutely love it alone! The definition is insane. It truly is a one product WNG (though I did add Copper hair makeup,strictly for aesthetics) My hair also got close to completely dry in like 25 minutes-altogether it couldn’t have taken me but an hour and some change to do my hair today

The only negative is my scalp is a tad bit itchy for some reason,but I’ll just have to see how it goes over the next few days

Fabulous. Let us know how it holds up. Where are the pictures?

 

[kimpaur]

I am not going to be tempted to buy another product even though a 1 product WnG sounds perfect. Was there a big learning curve with it?

It’s been a struggle using it with UFD. I was honestly considering returning it,but I ran out of UFD and figured why not?

I’m still very new to this WNG life but I found it very easy to use alone. I applied all over (adding a little water here and there)then “opened up” my hair and applied ,pretty much how Blonde A shows you on See Some Curls. The consistency is really similar to UFD but somehow gets kind of foamy the more you use. It definitely activates the curls more (for me personally) than UFD.

 

[kimpaur]

Fabulous. Let us know how it holds up. Where are the pictures?

Will do!

I haven’t been able to upload pics on this site for months now (sadly)

 

[faithVA]

Will do!

I haven’t been able to upload pics on this site for months now (sadly)

Oh I understand. I can upload from my computer easily. But if I try to upload from my phone I have to do a lot of cropping and resizing to make sure they are less than 1K or whatever that size is. On my laptop it does not have a size restriction which is weird.

 

[toaster]

Glad you like it @kimpaur!!

Totally agree that pop lock works best on its own.

 

[EmmJaii]

I don't think I know how to use ICH. When I use it with UFD, sometimes it messes up my definition immediately and it dries really hard. Is it supposed to be hard like that? Lol

I get more coils with the KCKTCC method.

I’ve currently got a UFD and KCCC wash n go in my head right now and I love this combo! It gives me really good definition and a softer cast that still holds really well over the days so I can get my big hair but keep the definition. It’s the longest lasting yet soft combo I’ve found so far.

Figured I could add how I do my wash n go since we’re comparing methods:

1- I wash 2-3x without sectioning off my hair
2- apply conditioner all over
3- separate into 4 sections and add more conditioner to each one
4- detangle each section then clip back up
5- rinse 1 section and apply UFD on soaking hair then clip back up and do the same to the other sections
6- apply KCCC to 1 section then rake and smooth, and shingle if I feel like putting in more time (rare) then do the same to the other sections
7- shake or sway (I still haven’t been able to tell the difference between these methods)
8- sit under the dryer for 40 mins then air dry the rest of the way
9- once dry, I use the blow dryer vigorously (without diffuser) to add back some volume and movement

Any recommended improvements on my process are welcome!

 

[Bette Davis Eyes]

Curl daze stylers are bomb. Black owned woman brand from a YTer. I can’t ever remember her name.

I would buy both again. https://www.curldaze.com/

I’m not feeling this As I Am Colored gel. It looks weird to me. Hair is slightly damp from last night so I’ll try and catch a picture later.

 

[Bette Davis Eyes]

Bleh.

 

[Nightingale]

I used The Doux's Big Poppa yesterday and it was the weirdest experience.

Despite being a gel, it applied like a mousse, with a shiny foam as I smoothed it in. After drying I had very pretty, day 5 looking hair with zero cast.

Has anyone else experience this with Big Poppa gel?

 

[Bette Davis Eyes]

@Nightingale yes. It’s my favorite product from them.

 

[Nightingale]

@Nightingale yes. It’s my favorite product from them.

Ok, thanks.

I'm not sure how I feel about this gel. I love how fast and easy it was too apply, but it doesnt give strong hold or definition. I think it may work in place of foam stylers.

So I'm back to the drawing board, looking for an OTG, hard hold gel. I swear my hair is hold resistant...