Wash And Go, To Grow And To Dazzle 2020 Challenge
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colorful_coils
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Does anyone have this issue with the Earthtones Naturals gel?
On the first few days, I have no flakes. However, as the cast continues to soften/break, I get an insane amount of flakes. I've tried different techniques and using different amounts of the gel, but I keep getting the same results. Not too sure what I'm doing wrong. I love the hold I get from this gel and don't want to stop using it though.
On the first few days, I have no flakes. However, as the cast continues to soften/break, I get an insane amount of flakes. I've tried different techniques and using different amounts of the gel, but I keep getting the same results. Not too sure what I'm doing wrong. I love the hold I get from this gel and don't want to stop using it though.
Bette Davis Eyes
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I found a huge bottle of UFD in the basement this afternoon.
I still haven’t started washngo. It’s so easy to just do a tucked ponytail.
I’m steaming in some treatments at the moment so who knows I might just go ahead and take some gel in and see how it goes.
I still haven’t started washngo. It’s so easy to just do a tucked ponytail.
I’m steaming in some treatments at the moment so who knows I might just go ahead and take some gel in and see how it goes.
faithVA
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Are you using over another gel? over a leave-in? or directly after the conditioner?
If after a gel or leave-in, what products are you using?
toaster
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I haven’t noticed any flakes when I use it, but I might not be paying attention. I know with pretty much any gel with a cast, when it breaks on my hair I see tiny flakes in the air but never anything on my clothes or on my scalp.
Bette Davis Eyes
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toaster
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Beautiful @Bette Davis Eyes !!
bubbles12345
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My hair is still so dehydrated ..I still have to ccs 2x-3x a week even after doing 4 months of the detox with a twa. 
My curly stylist told me my hair is very low porosity so I'm assuming that's the reason it won't accept water.
Hope my hair gets hydrated soon.
My curly stylist told me my hair is very low porosity so I'm assuming that's the reason it won't accept water.
Hope my hair gets hydrated soon.
faithVA
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Maybe your expectations just need an adjustment. If you have a twa, you will need to CCS at least 2x a week. That doesn't mean it is dehydrated. It just means that very short hair can only hold onto moisture for a short period of time.My hair is still so dehydrated ..I still have to ccs 2x-3x a week even after doing 4 months of the detox with a twa.
My curly stylist told me my hair is very low porosity so I'm assuming that's the reason it won't accept water.
Hope my hair gets hydrated soon.
My hair is low porosity as well but for me that meant going from my needing to refresh every day to eventually getting to 3 days. But I don't have an expectation of my hair being able to hold onto water for a week at this short length.
If you can get to 3rd day hair then I would say your hair is fine. You can try some of the super toppers some of the ladies are using to get your set to last longer.
Bette Davis Eyes
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faithVA
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It turned out nice. Do you reset every 2 days or every 3?
faithVA
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I know I said I wasn't going to post about my hair until the end of April. But if I don't write it down, I might not remember 
So, I am going to at least write down what I am doing. I won't take any pictures though and I won't be commenting on my hair just what I did. I think the mental break is doing me good.
Did a mid-week condition and style before work.
I rinsed and saturated my hair with water.
Poured highly diluted conditioner over my hair and squeezed this in.
Added regular conditioner on top and smoothed it in.
Detangled with the Denman
Rinsed and saturated my hair with water
Put on a plastic cap and let my hair sit while showering.
Saturated my hair with water
Applied UFD to outside
Took small amounts and smoothed through in small sections.
I went back through with very small amounts of UFD, added water to my hand and smoothed through the section.
What I'm thinking.
Like you have to prime certain surfaces before you paint them, I'm thinking I may need to prime my hair before applying product.
Applying the diluted conditioner first and then regular conditioner worked well and my hair was much smoother. I am going to try this with the gel. I have used diluted gel before when my hair was longer and it worked nicely and was faster. I'm going to try a very diluted gel mixture just a a primer before I start adding gel.
I also think I may be onto something with adding water. Instead of trying to add water and squeeze it in, I will try to add water section by section, adding the water and smoothing in the gel at the same time.
So, I am going to at least write down what I am doing. I won't take any pictures though and I won't be commenting on my hair just what I did. I think the mental break is doing me good.Did a mid-week condition and style before work.
I rinsed and saturated my hair with water.
Poured highly diluted conditioner over my hair and squeezed this in.
Added regular conditioner on top and smoothed it in.
Detangled with the Denman
Rinsed and saturated my hair with water
Put on a plastic cap and let my hair sit while showering.
Saturated my hair with water
Applied UFD to outside
Took small amounts and smoothed through in small sections.
I went back through with very small amounts of UFD, added water to my hand and smoothed through the section.
What I'm thinking.
Like you have to prime certain surfaces before you paint them, I'm thinking I may need to prime my hair before applying product.
Applying the diluted conditioner first and then regular conditioner worked well and my hair was much smoother. I am going to try this with the gel. I have used diluted gel before when my hair was longer and it worked nicely and was faster. I'm going to try a very diluted gel mixture just a a primer before I start adding gel.
I also think I may be onto something with adding water. Instead of trying to add water and squeeze it in, I will try to add water section by section, adding the water and smoothing in the gel at the same time.
Bette Davis Eyes
The "OG" Product Junkie
At the most every 3 but because my hair curls and coils and sticks to itself , two days would be the sweet spot @faithVA
bubbles12345
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Just wondering, why don't twa hold water for more than 3 days? I've seen ladies with my length (2-4inches) be able to have their wash n gos defined and last for a week.
My stylist told me that my hair was dry.
faithVA
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I can't speak for the ladies you mention. I don't know what products they are using. Can you keep a twa for a week if you use ecostyler? Probably. Are they low porosity? What type of curl pattern do they have? Is their hair fine, medium, coarse? All of those things come into play.
I know my stylist and the ladies that do the digital curl thingee, do share that the shorter the hair the more often you may need to refresh.
Imagine you have a 2 inch straw and a 10 inch straw. Which one can hold more water? With 2 to 4 inches of hair your hair can only absorb so much water. And if you are low porosity, you absorb even less.
If you are using more botanical gels with more natural toppers, your hair may not hold up as well as something that is more synthetic like ecostyler.
How long ago did your stylist say your hair is dry? Did the give you recommendations to fix that?
I know my hair was very dry when I started last January. I detoxed for 30 days my hair was much better. Then I switched my shampoos over to what was recommended and started resetting every 2 to 4 days. I have low porosity hair, with parts being between 4 and 6 inches. I can force my hair to make it to 5 days but my hair really likes 3 days if I want it to look like something and on day 4 it is moving towards brittleness.
If I dry my hair with a dryer or blow dryer I usually max out around 3 days. If I want to try to extend my hair, I spritz it with a light glycerin spray before I shower which seems to help me with another day or 2.
But if you notice the ladies in here even with longer hair, using mostly botanical products don't always get a week.
faithVA
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I know you meant this in the kindest way. But what I heard was girl you have been doing this forever and your hair is raggedy. But I've been doing this just for a little while and my hair turns out perfectly every time.
OK. Trust that I know what you meant. But understand that my mind went straight down into a hole cuz that is how I roll.
faithVA
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I hope you are screaming like laughing really hard, right? Because I was laughing really hard.@faithVA
You know what I meant but I am *screaming* at you and your negative thoughts.
Your hair is far from raggedy! But we’re not talking about your hair this month sountil next month.
Yeah, we aren't talking about my hair. And I will take a hug. I take all hugs.
I'm just joking around. I feel like being mischievous today and have to mess with someone.
toaster
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I always thought my hair was going to look like Corinne Bailey Rae’s hair. And honestly in a twist out when my hair was longer it was similar texture, but nowhere near the volume.
I love volume on other people but I’m lazy, I want gelled hair that lasts a week. And that doesn’t have volume.
I love volume on other people but I’m lazy, I want gelled hair that lasts a week. And that doesn’t have volume.
GettingKinky
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So much definition, and I love your color.
Bette Davis Eyes
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I never imagined shrinkage would look like this. I just knew my curls would be big and boing. Tuh. My hair will never hang up my shoulders unless I’m past waist length if that. I honestly don’t have it in me to grow my hair that long.
One day I’ll wake up and cut it off and keep it short.
I used to cut my hair all the time. Now I just love the ability to throw it in a tucked textured ponytail. I’d miss that.
Bette Davis Eyes
The "OG" Product Junkie
I have that as I am color gel. I’m going to try that tomorrow over UFD. I wanna see this blondish color dries. I’ll only do the front of my hair though.
toaster
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Yes! I can’t see not being able to pull my hair up and out of my face. But if my hair was short... it wouldn’t be in my face.
Cutting my hair down is definitely on my list of future hairstyles. I think it’s so chic and effortless looking (although I know it’s not actually effortless).
GettingKinky
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I keep thinking about getting a cut with a great shape, but I also like having the ability to just put my hair in a puff or a ponytail.
I totally feel you about your shrinkage keeping your hair from reaching your shoulders.
faithVA
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I have short hair, so I wouldn't recommend it. It sounds good but the reality of it (meh) For me unless I keep it cut really close, it is more work than long hair. And keeping it cut close takes a lot because you have to keep getting it cut. Whenever, I get pass this stage, I plan to never get my hair cut to a point where I can not wear a nice puff or bun.
Just needed to get that off my chest
Just needed to get that off my chest
colorful_coils
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I've been using it over UFD and with no leave-in. I used it with leave-in the first few times, and thought that was the issue, but it happens with or without it.
Bette Davis Eyes
The "OG" Product Junkie
You hair isn’t completely clean and there’s other product on top of your hair strands
Your hair doesn’t have enough water to distribute the gel evenly
the gel is aloe based/FSG. I have to have tons of water to make sure it’s emulsified into my hair and I don’t shake my hair. Then to break the cast I run a little leave in/oil down the strands after it’s dry.
When my gel flakes on me , it’s one of these three reasons. @colorful_coils
Your hair doesn’t have enough water to distribute the gel evenly
the gel is aloe based/FSG. I have to have tons of water to make sure it’s emulsified into my hair and I don’t shake my hair. Then to break the cast I run a little leave in/oil down the strands after it’s dry.
When my gel flakes on me , it’s one of these three reasons. @colorful_coils
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