Use Up Your Stash 2012 - Session 3

I wanna know too! @JJamiah and any other 613 lovers?

This post is long overdue. I've been selfish girl, enjoying this amazing cleansing treatment all to myself. You may remember this post where I denounced many of my long-term loves for something new.

Before 613 came into my life, I was perfectly content with using my WEN Honey Fig Cleansing conditioner for the wash, and deep condition with one of my staple conditioners. Then the day finally came when my Honey Fig ran low. I had a choice to make at that point, "would I be willing to invest nearly $80.00 in a cleansing conditioner instead of replacing my Honey Fig?" For days I mulled over my options until finally I just said "screw it, let's do it!"

Let's backtrack a little bit so I can help you understand why I made this decision. First, I was very pleased with the Honey Fig Cleansing Conditioner but, from what I read about 613, I knew this would take everything to the next level. Just check out this product description so you can see what I'm talking about:


What is it: Using an innovative and modern approach to hair care that he began in 1993, Chaz Dean has infused his Six Thirteen Daily Cleansing Treatment with a blend of 11 amino acids to help restore strength and elasticity to hair. The unique combination of more than 25 natural oils and extracts helps to nourish your hair and scalp, making Six Thirteen perfect for those with sensitive skin. Full of luxurious ingredients, Six Thirteen is the indulgence your hair has been waiting for.
Who is it for: Six Thirteen is designed for all hair types and can be used on people of all ages. Why is it different: Six Thirteen is ideal for cleansing and hydrating the scalp and hair.
How do I use it: Rinse your hair thoroughly and completely with cool water. Apply enough Daily Cleansing Treatment to thoroughly coat your hair from scalp to ends. Make sure you are using enough to saturate the hair and scalp. For short hair, use a minimum of six to eight pumps. For medium-length hair, use a minimum of eight to 10 pumps. For long hair, use a minimum of 10 to 12 pumps. For really long hair, use a minimum of 12 to 14 pumps. Add a splash of water--this is very important to help evenly distribute the Daily Cleansing Treatment through your hair. Comb through with a wide-tooth comb and clip up hair for the remainder of the shower. To ensure maximum cleansing and conditioning, Chaz recommends that you cleanse, rinse, and repeat, using half the pumps for the first cleanse and the remaining pumps for the second cleanse. The longer you leave it on, the better. Rinse thoroughly with cool water and apply a dime-sized amount to soaking-wet hair from mid-shaft to ends as a leave-in conditioner.
Average Customer Rating:


4.6
out of
5
(866 Reviews)

There are nearly 1000 reviews of this product online and the average rating is almost a perfect 5. To me, that says a lot about what we're dealing with here. But enough about what other people think. Let me share a little about 613 from using it over the past several weeks. Both the good and bad.

First off, let me start off by saying that this product, to me, doesn't look or perform like any of the other cleansing conditioners I've tried. In fact, if the words "Daily Cleansing Treatment" weren't on the bottle, I would have never put it in the same category as Hair One or Honey Fig. Chaz Dean 613, to me, has deep conditioner written all over it. In fact, it looks and performs so much like a deep conditioner that I have decided that this replaces some of my main DC products.

Why do I say that 613 is like a deep conditioner? Well first off, it's thick. It's really thick. So thick, in fact, that I dilute it to get optimal results. When 613 first arrived, I didn't use the handy, dandy, pump that came in the shipment. I just tried to squeeze the conditioner out of the bottle opening. It was honestly a struggle to get the product out and when it did, the conditioner maintained it shape in my plastic bowl. That's when I decided that I needed to use a really watery conditioner to dilute it. My first thought was Suave's coconut conditioner. By the way, when I actually started using the pump, the product came out much more smoothly and evenly



Diluting the 613 with the Suave (or water based) conditioner works really well for two reasons.
#1: It brings the cost per ounce of 613 down quite a bit.
#2: The water based conditioner further elevates the moisturization properties.

If you read my #2 reason closely, you might be asking yourself, "why would this product need greater moisture, isn't 613 the holy grail moisturizing product? To answer your question honestly, I would say "not really." My favorite things in the world are moisturizing conditioners. I love them more than anything. But I'll be honest with you all and say that (on it's own), this cleansing treatment isn't what I consider a high moisturizing product. Chaz 613 is more of a high nourishing product. So now you may be saying "Nadege, what's the difference, in your mind, between moisturizing and nourishing?"

I'll try my best to give share with you the differences from my perspective:

Strengthen|| verb: to make or become stronger
These are the conditioners that come into play when we are experiencing excessive breakage. Protein is the name of the game when it comes to strengthening conditioners. Normally, after use, we require a moisturizing conditioner to bring back balance and elasticity.

Moisturizing|| adj: to impart moisture or make less dry
These conditioners offer lots of slip and leave the hair feeling soft and less dry to the touch immediately after use. Moisturizing conditioners are generally more watery in texture than strengthening conditioners.

Nourishing|| adj: containing substances necessary for growth, health and good condition. To me, this type of conditioner offers the best of both worlds. After use, the hair feels strong, moisturized, and balanced.

So that's what I mean when I say that Chaz Dean is nourishing. It leaves my hair totally fulfilled and lacking nothing. For this reason, I was able to move away from both my ultra moisturizing conditioner (Kerastase Nutri-Thermique) and my strengthening conditioner (Aveda Damage Repair). 613 does it all. The only thing I wish 613 had is more slip when I rinse out. For the past few weeks, I've been using this product mainly as a deep conditioner. Meaning I sit under the dryer for at least 20 minutes to intensify it's impact. And, as a deep conditioner, it performs nicely. Since I ran out of the Honey Fig, I've been substituting with other moisturizing shampoos. So even though I have been "shampooing" my hair again for the first time in years, my hair still pretty amazing after deep conditioning with a cleansing product.

Let's talk for a moment about the cost of 613. At first I classified it as the most expensive hair product I've ever owned, but when I looked a little more closely, I realized that I was mistaken.

Kerastase Nutri-Therminque|| According to the Kerastase website, a 6.8 ounce jar of Nutri-Thermique is $61.00 or $8.07 per ounce.

Aveda Damage Remedy|| I bought a 1 liter bottle for $72.00 (pre-tax) which totals around $2.13 per ounce.

Chaz Dean 613|| A 32oz bottle on the QVC website goes for $61.00 plus $7.22 S&H. Without the shipping costs, 613 costs around $1.90 per ounce. The total price rises to $2.13 per ounce once I factor in the shipping.

After breaking down the cost factor, I got over the initial sticker shock and became comfortable with my decision. Plus I also realized that even with the insane amount of conditioner I use each week, a 32 ounce bottle of product usually lasts me a very long time. Plus, ever since I've been using my pink Sprush to apply my conditioner, I noticed that I've been using less product week after week.

Finally, I'll leave you with the greatest determining factor of why I finally took the plunge. The ingredients, where the proteins are light and the oils are plentiful. Take a look and let me know what you think.


If I were to compare this product to Hair One and Honey Fig, I would say that there's no comparison. In fact, I will be re-ordering some more Honey Fig to complete the package. I don't even think there's a need for me to do a battle post between Honey Fig and 613 because they are different (in my opinion). I wouldn't deep condition with the Honey Fig and I wouldn't co-wash with only the 613. Hopefully this was helpful. If any of you out there were thinking about this product, I would say go for it. I can't imagine anyone not liking it. If you do purchase, try it in various ways to see how your hair enjoys it most.

613 will be a staple of mine for a long time to come.



this is an entry from relaxed hair health blog. she explains it better than i can:grin:
 
^^That almost makes me want to run out and go get it :lol: Maybe I will try it for my birthday or when I reach one of my budget goals. I should have really gone through most of my stash by then.
 
Wen 613 mist used up:sad:
Going to try and recreate it using the cleansing condish and some water. i compared the ingredients and they are basically the same
 
lamaria211 said:
Wen 613 mist used up:sad:
Going to try and recreate it using the cleansing condish and some water. i compared the ingredients and they are basically the same

That was well said about 613. Chaz said this is when u don't have time to deep condition and are on the run. 613 gives u clean hair which is also deep conditioned. That was my problem explaining They aren't really comparable because these are two entirely different products...
 
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That was well said about 613. Chaz said this is when u don't have time to deep condition and are on the run. 613 gives u clean hair which is also deep conditioned. That was my problem.. They aren't really comparable explaining because these are. Two entirely different products...

I used it like she suggested and mixed it with tresemme naturals to co wash it was heaven
 
I'm so happy to see I only have 2 DC to get rid of and only 2 staple DC that's not listed my Nexxus Humectress and Vitale Corrective Conditioner which I DC w/ after relaxing. Can't wait to replace those 56-60 oz tubs of my dominican DC staples.
 
Well I have some good news and some bad news? Which do you want first.

The good news?
I finished
Claudies growth oil
SSI Fortifier
MD red clover
MD yogurt smoothie
Kyras ultimate mango moisturizer
Mango and lime Gel
Mango and lime transitioning gel
MT, (Got one left, and just bought stuff to make my own)

will complete
Komaza Moku oil
Claudies Island Rinse

The bad news, is a natural supply company is having a 25% off sale. Some of you may know that I have a long list of oils I want to try, but I wanted a sale.

The next piece of good news, I finally got to purchase almost every oil on my wish list, and re upped some old favorites.

Oils
1. Walnut
2. Peach Kernal
3. Pure Argan
4. Pistachio
5. Pecan
6. Wheat Germ
7. Pumpkin Seed
8. Hazelnut
9. Tamanu



Here it the link to the thread with the discount code and info, if anyone else needs oils, butters, or makes their own products
http://www.longhaircareforum.com/showthread.php?p=17182757#post17182757

The real bad news, Black Friday is coming, and the PJ in me is rising up. I may have purchased three packages this year, but in all good conscious I can no longer be held responsible. I will do my best to keep it down, but I can't let all those good sales go to waste.

Here is my measly attempt to be good. I am going to only purchase from sales that are 40% or higher. Priority will go to companies that have free or cheap shipping. This code may be my only saving grace.
 
Washing early this week. I tried the Hair One Olive Oil for Dry Hair. That worked pretty well. It definitely conditioned and didn't strip. I was also able to detangle my hair in the shower. Next wash I will wash with the As I Am Coconut Cowash and compare. When I used it previously I didn't let it sit and I didn't try to detangle. Still have the Hair One Argan Oil for Curly Hair.

Keeping it simple tonight. DCd with AO Blue Chamomile. Going to put on a little sunflower oil and use up the rest of the As I Am Leave-in. Going to try to make some coils with the As I Am Curly Jelly and then seal with a little oil.

Using up two things tonight. :yay:

Oh and for November, I bought TW Curling Cream.
 
lamaria211 said:
I made it yesterday using 3 pumps of the cleanser and 4oz of bottled water I like it even more than the original mist cause its a little thicker

I made some too. Unfortunately, I didn't have a mist to compare it too, but I am glad to know. Yay..
 
faithVA said:
Washing early this week. I tried the Hair One Olive Oil for Dry Hair. That worked pretty well. It definitely conditioned and didn't strip. I was also able to detangle my hair in the shower. Next wash I will wash with the As I Am Coconut Cowash and compare. When I used it previously I didn't let it sit and I didn't try to detangle. Still have the Hair One Argan Oil for Curly Hair.

Keeping it simple tonight. DCd with AO Blue Chamomile. Going to put on a little sunflower oil and use up the rest of the As I Am Leave-in. Going to try to make some coils with the As I Am Curly Jelly and then seal with a little oil.

Using up two things tonight. :yay:

Oh and for November, I bought TW Curling Cream.

I like Hairone Olive Oil the best of the non-wen products. The after is amazing..coconut cowash isn't bad at either.
 
:spinning:
used up my Oyin Sugar and Berries Pomade and my Shea Moisture Curling Souffle

I'm down to 11 Products. My goal is solidify my staples and narrow down my products to 8

Shampoo
- Suave Clarifying
- Elasta QP Creme Conditioning Shampoo
- Shea Moisture Raw Shea Butter Retention

Conditioner
- Megatek
- Roux Porosity Control
- Aubrey GPB
- Darcy's Botanicals Pumpkin Seed
- Aussie Moist

Styler/Sealer
- Qhemet Amala and Olive Heavy Cream

Oils
- Tea Tree
- Bee Mine Growth Serum

Not in the count (because some double for cooking, coconut i have been trying to use up as a cuticle oil and i use apple cider vin. for multiple purposes )

- Coconut Oil
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Olive Oil
- Sesame Oil

:ohwell: Warning for Black Friday my passes are going to go out the window lol but my budget is $50-$60 max

i'm planning on going Qhemet Crazy (Butter, Gel, Coco Ghee, extra aohc [maybe it all depends on the sale]) I also want to try Curl Junkie's Curl Rehab (but I may keep it on my wishlist) and I want to get a clay bar for washing/clarifying, I need to re-up on Apple Cider Vinegar, and I need to get some jojoba oil
 
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soulglo said:
:spinning:
used up my Oyin Sugar and Berries Pomade and my Shea Moisture Curling Souffle

I'm down to 11 Products. My goal is solidify my staples and narrow down my products to 8

Shampoo
- Suave Clarifying
- Elasta QP Creme Conditioning Shampoo
- Shea Moisture Raw Shea Butter Retention

Conditioner
- Megatek
- Roux Porosity Control
- Aubrey GPB
- Darcy's Botanicals Pumpkin Seed
- Aussie Moist

Styler/Sealer
- Qhemet Amala and Olive Heavy Cream

Oils
- Tea Tree
- Bee Mine Growth Serum

Not in the count (because some double for cooking, coconut i have been trying to use up as a cuticle oil and i use apple cider vin. for multiple purposes )

- Coconut Oil
- Apple Cider Vinegar
- Olive Oil
- Sesame Oil

:ohwell: Warning for Black Friday my passes are going to go out the window lol but my budget is $50-$60 max

i'm planning on going Qhemet Crazy (Butter, Gel, Coco Ghee, extra aohc [maybe it all depends on the sale]) I also want to try Curl Junkie's Curl Rehab (but I may keep it on my wishlist) and I want to get a clay bar for washing/clarifying, I need to re-up on Apple Cider Vinegar, and I need to get some jojoba oil

I feel you on going Qhemet Biologics crazy. When the sale arrives, I'm going to stock up on all my favorites; AOHC, BRBC, CTDG and OHHB. I'm a QB fan for life.
 
I'll be done with Kenra MC and Argan Oil tomorrow!!

In an extreme effort to preserve my staples and use up my stash, I'm going to be using a lot of the products I won't be repurchasing.
 
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Products with a * have between used up...yippee!

Shampoos:
Aubrey Organics Honeysuckle Rose
Dessert Essence Italian red grape*
Carol's Daughter Hair milk*
L'oreal EverCreme cleansing Conditioner

Conditioners:
*Aubrey Organics honeysuckle rose*
AO White camellia
AOGPB

AO Island Naturals
GVP conditioning balm
*Suave naturals Refreshing waterfall mist*
SN Mango Mandarin*
SN Sun-ripened strawberry*
*L'oreal EverPure Moisture leave-in conditioner*
L'oreal Everpure smooth conditioner*
Wen Sweet almond mint
*Curl Junkie smoothing lotion*
Trader Joe's trees tree tingle*
*Giovanni smooth as silk*
Giovanni 50:50 Balance*
Hayashi system 911 conditioner
As I Am Hydration Elation

Beautiful Curls activating cream

Treatments: Wen sweet almond mint repair
AO Blue green algae Conditioning mask
Ion repair solutions
Hayashi system 911 Emergency Pak

Stylers:
Aubrey organics Mandarin magic jelly
Curl junkie Curls in a bottle*
Curly hair solutions Curl keeper*
Curly hair solutions tweek*
Herbal essence totally twisted Curl boosting mousse
Frizz ease Curl reviver mousse
*Paul Mitchell super sculpt small bottle*
Paul Mitchell super sculpt big bottle
*L'oreal EverSleek frizz serum*

L’oreal EverSleek Super Sleek Intense Serum
Beautiful Curls leave-in
Aubrey organics Sea buckthorn Leave-in Conditioner & curl activator
*Desert Essence coconut shine & refine hair lotionGave Away*
*Desert Essence coconut soft curls hair cream Gave Away*
Black N sassy creamy set
 
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Been using my Wen faithfully for just about everything co washing, DC, leave in and moisturizing. I'm really liking the Aussie leave in so I'm going to use it till its gone but I won't repurchase cause its not better than my staples. This Wednesday I will finish up my Nubian Heritage masque (Indian Hemp & Tamanu) and start on the unopened one (Evoo & Moringa).
 
KiWiStyle said:
I'll be done with Kenra MC and Argan Oil tomorrow!!

In an extreme effort to preserve my staples and use up my stash, I'm going to be using a lot of the products I won't be repurchasing.

As I said yesterday, both the Kenra MC and Argan Oil are gone bye-bye. I used them up during my DC today!
 
it seems like i'm adding to my stash =/ but that's ok i have half a bottle or less of everything except for my aubrey gpb conditioner
i hate buying stuff and having to go back... and i needed some jojoba oil badly

in the process i bought
- jojoba oil
- apple cider vinegar
- aloe vera juice

i decided that i am NOT going to re-up on aubrey conditioners
my hair seems to be liking aussie moist :)

i am going to pick up curl junkie curl rehab from the beauty supply as most of my conditioners are protein based

i'm also contemplating whether i should buy qhemet products for black friday or... more natural based products ex: their gel vs. aloe vera gel, their butter vs. pure mango or shealoe or avocado butter

sidenote my shea mositure shampoo should be used up soon :)
 
Calling my Frederick Fekkai Shea Butter Conditioner gone. Also, I thought that the Keracare twist and define cream would be done, but alas, one more use. So next week will be the week that that product is done.

I have compiled a regimen list that I want to have and I think I have found adequate staples that give me great hair and a healthy scalp.
 
Just popping in looking at what you guys are using up since I am hiding my hair and all I seem to use up is oil and moisturizers since I only wash every 2 weeks now.

i'm also contemplating whether i should buy qhemet products for black friday or... more natural based products ex: their gel vs. aloe vera gel, their butter vs. pure mango or shealoe or avocado butter

This is me. This upcoming year I want to do whipped butters alot to lock in this moisture. I did a whipped shea/cocoa butter over the weekend that I adore but I want to get into Mango also.
 
Used one as I am coconut co-wash. Yay, and a Miss Jessie's Curly Meringue Sample. meh! I still like the curly pudding better.
 
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