Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Date?"

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Should I Wait or Date?

Julie Ferwerda


On the one hand, you don’t want to get ahead of God.
You’ve done that plenty of times before … going out on dates with people you barely know, then spending every waking moment talking, texting, and planning a future together before you even know each other’s middle names. And always with the same results—disappointment, regret, and dashed hopes.
Should you just keep to yourself, hoping God will mysteriously drop Mr./Ms. Right next to you by the banana bin at the grocery store, your eyes catching as you reach for the same bunch? It seems to work for those folks over in Hollywood. But this time, you’ve decided you want to do it God’s way because you’ve made too many mistakes rushing ahead of Him before.
On the other hand, what if you miss the boat?
In this heroic decision to wait completely on God, the days, months, and maybe years go by while you’ve done everything short of checking yourself in to a monastery (or the equivalent). But the doorbell never rings, and the produce section never produces. What if there was more you should have done? How do you know for sure?
BUT … wait! Before you cruise down the produce aisle, check out some reasons why dating is not the move for you right now.
  1. God has impressed upon you not to get involved with anyone for a (specified or unspecified) reason or length of time
  2. God has instructed you to allow the opportunity for your unmarried ex-spouse to reconcile with you (this is normally the rule, not the exception)
  3. You’re not completely healed emotionally from past relationships (angry, depressed, needy, or bitter)
  4. You’re insecure or hoping another person will complete you (emotionally, financially, or spiritually) or make you happy
  5. You’re not “technically” divorced
  6. You’re rebounding from another relationship
  7. You have a history of choosing “losers” and haven’t figured out why or how to stop the cycle
For the few who are left, we can now safely answer the question … to date or not to date?
Isaac & Becky’s Radical B.C. Dating (Genesis 24)
Here’s the basic storyline: Isaac was ready to get married (hint) but his dad, Abe, just didn’t jive with the local divas. So, applying his deft computer skills, Abe posted Isaacs’s dating profile on QualityChristianBabes.com to find a wife for his son. Okay, it wasn’t exactly like that, but he did do the next best thing—he sent one of his trusted employees back to his home country in search of the future bride.
  • Key Point 1: Isaac and Rebecca didn’t use the “try before you buy” mentality. Do you really have to kiss a lot of frogs to find your prince/princess? If you believe that God has one specific person picked for you to spend your life with (and hopefully you will before this article is over), what’s the point of wasting time, money, energy, emotions, and lip action on the wrong person? Why complicate your life with the wrong thing at the wrong time? Trying out as many romantic options as possible to make sure you land on the right one doesn’t make you more ready or more sure—it makes you more used up.
  • Key Point 2: The future wife (and husband)-to-be had to be a believer (verse 4). No ifs, ands, or buts … Abe wasn’t going to even give his son the temptation of settling for an unbelieving mate. It was all or nothing because, just like others found out along the way, unbelieving spouses lead their families away from God. Aside from all the problems of marrying an unbeliever (or uncommitted believer), the biggest future problem to overcome is this: A spouse who hasn’t fully surrendered his or her life to God can’t truly love his or her mate with God’s love. The person God selects for you will work to love you with God’s unfailing, unconditional love. That’s a great security!
  • Key Point 3: The servant went looking (verse 10). The believers of that time were spread out—it was necessary to search for the right one. It’s not much different today. Truly committed single believers are hard to locate and need to be creative in seeking each other out. Fortunately, we live in some pretty high-tech times with options.
    If this hangs you up, think of it this way. If you need a job, do you pray about it and then sit home hoping some mega job opportunity will fall in your lap? Not going to happen. God has a part, and we have a part. The problem of getting ahead of God in relationships isn’t looking around or making ourselves available, it’s when we force things that aren’t meant to be because we get impatient. Choosing a life mate has to be done very prayerfully and cautiously, ideally with the help of godly counsel in your life, not willfully going ahead with attitudes like, “This one can cook and she doesn’t look too bad either … good enough. I don’t want to be alone … it’s a go!”
  • Key Point 4: The servant prayed specifically for God to reveal the one right woman (verses 12-14). Pray specifically, and recognize there is one particular person God made/intended for you to be with. Does it make any sense that God wouldn’t have a specific opinion about whom you share the rest of your life with? If He has a specific plan for your life (and He does), why wouldn’t He have an opinion on who could best help you fulfill that plan? Note that Rebecca was the answer to both Abe’s and his servant’s requests. She was one of Abraham’s relatives (as he prayed for) and she specifically met the requests of the servant to a T (verses 15-27).
  • Key Point 5: The woman had character consistent with God’s best: pure (v. 16), modest (v.65), caring/selfless/respectful (vs. 18-20), willing to submit to God’s leading (vs. 57-58), considerate (v. 25) Before you can expect God to give you the best, you have to be God’s best for someone else. Eagles aren’t attracted to turkeys … become what you’re looking for.
  • Key Point 6: The servant sought the counsel of the woman’s family (vs. 33-49). Bringing godly counsel into a relationship is one of the best ways to safeguard against impulsive mistakes. Wise, godly people can hold you accountable with objective counsel. This also gives you a chance to look for one of the most important traits in a marriage partner—teachability. The person you marry isn’t going to be perfect, but if they are teachable, God can reach them. That means they will respond when issues need to be addressed without becoming overly defensive or resentful. A teachable person will likely be willing to work at being the best spouse possible, which will make for a great marriage!
  • Key Point 7: They didn’t get emotionally or physically involved with anyone but the one they married (vs. 67). We need a new (or maybe old) dating mentality. The current typical one doesn’t work unless you like getting your body and heart used up and spit out before you even figure out whom you’re supposed to be with. This kind of dating we have today is relatively new and some of the results don’t fit with the way God intended two people to get together.
Where Do We Go from Here?
So dating can be fine, but let’s rethink the method. Instead of doing the typical dating thing, try this instead. Get involved with Christian singles through your church, missions, travel, or any other ways. Spend time around them as friends. Do social things, talk on the phone, do things in groups, become friends. In short—keep it friendly unless God indicates He has plans for you to be together. God doesn’t play games. If you are truly waiting on Him, He’ll be very specific and direct when He feels you need to know. And remember, what was good for Isaac and Becky is still good today.

When Julie Ferwerda isn’t wrapped up in her heavenly dating life, she’s writing for Christian magazines and websites, keeping up with two teenage daughters, and enjoying life in central Wyoming with her husband, Steve. She is the author of the book for singles, The Perfect Fit: piecing together true love. For more info, go to www.julieferwerda.com.


**This article first published on March 25, 2008.


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Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

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Five Lessons in Dating for Marriage
by S. Malin


Women share their advice gleaned from years of challenging dating.

Talia* had been dating since she was 20 years old and finally found her husband at 45; Ricki found her husband after a broken engagement, a huge change in lifestyle and approach to dating, and many plane rides at the age of 37; Sarah didn't know how she'd find her husband, coming from a traditional background while working toward a career as a doctor. During a frank, open discussion, these women offered practical advice from their years of challenging dating. Here are their top five lessons.

1. Be Self-Centered!
Being single is a great opportunity to improve one's self as an individual. Rather than being detrimentally self-centered, work on being the best YOU you can possibly be. Sarah admits how much she had to grow over her eight years of dating for marriage in order to maturely choose her husband. "I realized that life is all about improving yourself. The more you work on yourself, the better your destined match will be."

In a similar vein, Ricki jokes, "The attitude is not like: 'Hey, where is my husband? Give him to me.' Life is true work -- nothing is guaranteed."

Marriage is seen by many as a bond that secures one's place in society, but as a single don't forget your importance as an individual in society.
During her 25 years of dating Talia did not allow herself to get depressed.
Instead she occupied herself with giving to her family and community while working on her career as a therapist. "Believe you are an important part of society. Believe that being single is not your fault, that you really do want to get married, and you deserve to get married." Feel positively about yourself, your contributions to society, and your worthiness of marriage.
Positivity always enjoys company!

And be sure to take care of yourself. "Put a smile on your face and wear nice clothing," Ricki says. "Many different people are watching you and may have ideas of suitable guys."

2. See Past the Head-Over-Heels Love-At-First-Sight Fantasy
"Many times girls are stuck in the mentality that they should feel butterflies when they meet the right person, but it's not like that," Ricki explains. "You can first just like someone and then get to know their personality, and that's when real feelings are in the making."
Rather than focusing mainly on the attraction factor, take time to get to know the person's inner personality. "We have very preconceived notions when we are dating," Talia says. "If older singles didn't put so much emphasis on things they think are important it would be easier for them. Like whether he is taller, shorter, heavier, thinner, good-looking, less good-looking. All those things are so not important."

Readiness for marriage and a conscious commitment to making it work are crucial. Talia continues, "You could marry almost anyone as long as your goals are the same and you have open communication about where you are heading in life."

"Be open and don't have a massive list of criteria," Ricki says. She ended up marrying a man of a different nationality and moved to his hometown, though these options did not match her preferences at all. "When you think of most girls, they don't marry men who fit their original list of criteria because ultimately there is a higher plan and it doesn't include things like 'he should be this tall or have this degree or own this or that.'"
A final practical tip: "You should always go on a second date unless you absolutely have no physical attraction with that person."

3. Get Help (from the right sources)
The world of dating is not always a friendly one -- from singles get-togethers to matchmakers to friends just trying to help out -- and proper guidance is a must in such an important undertaking as finding one's partner in life.

Talia, for instance, warns against speaking with other singles and encourages having an objective third party act as a coach and go-between. "A lot of older singles become very negative and down and it comes across when you ask information about a guy. It's very beneficial to have a mentor who can guide you in the dating, someone you can talk and meet with who can give guidance on how to move the relationship along."

"The most success I had was with my friends who cared about me and were trying to look out for me," Sarah says. "They knew I needed someone learning and very intelligent."

4. Extend Yourself
Keep your eyes and ears open. Even if a date doesn't work out in the way you hoped, it may be a way to do an amazing act of kindness for a friend.

"Dating is such a great opportunity to also think of other women who may be suitable for the guy that wasn't right for you," Ricki says. "Be very grateful that you had the pleasure of going out on a date and then think who you know that could be suitable for this person. Extend a kindness to someone else." When we are kind to others, that kindness often comes back to us, and even greater.

5. Don't Give Up and Don't Stop Praying
With 25 years of dating experience one can only imagine the great storehouses of faith Talia had to rely on. "Deep faith can get you through anything," she says. "You have to really believe to the core of your being."

In addition to this, work on staying happy and thankful for the many positive things that fill your life. "Even when it is really difficult for us we must realize that this is our test," Ricki says. "For those girls who get married quickly, that is not their test."

In whatever language you know best, talk to the Almighty and affirm your belief that He can help you.


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*All names changed



Author Biography:
S. Malin is a writer in her free time living in Tel Aviv, Israel.
 
Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

Interesting contrast... you're a smart cookie.

Also, I always find it interesting to see Christian singles articles being written by married women with children...

Carry on!
 
Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

Interesting contrast... you're a smart cookie.

Also, I always find it interesting to see Christian singles articles being written by married women with children...

Carry on!

That did cross my mind....

Maybe she's newly married and she's sharing her perspective. I mean, after I marry, I will want to share some insights with singles who may have had similar struggles as I did.... My marriage would not negate my experiences as a "protracted" single, right?
 
Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

That did cross my mind....

Maybe she's newly married and she's sharing her perspective. I mean, after I marry, I will want to share some insights with singles who may have had similar struggles as I did.... My marriage would not negate my experiences as a "protracted" single, right?

It said she had teenage daughters though. :ohwell:

And agreed, being married definitely does not negate one's perspective about being single and I love hearing from married women who once struggled with their issues!!!

In this person's case, it seems like she's pretty far removed from singleness though...
 
Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

It said she had teenage daughters though. :ohwell:

And agreed, being married definitely does not negate one's perspective about being single and I love hearing from married women who once struggled with their issues!!!

In this person's case, it seems like she's pretty far removed from singleness though...

Let's explore this... does her (Ferwerda's) "removal" deny the insights she mentions in her article? Actually, there's nothing mind-blowing or new, but comforting reminders (to me, at least) that the Lord's way does work....

And I found Ferwerda's checklist insightful, esp. because of the 7 points, I could give a strong :nono::nono::nono:to them... maybe a slight affirmative head nod to the second point in chapter 4 (hoping another person will complete you (emotionally, financially, or spiritually) or make you happy). My head recognizes the fallacy of that, but the loneliness in my heart overshadows my head at times....
 
Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

Okay, I just had dinner and read through both articles instead of skimming through them on an empty stomach and a light head! :drunk:

I think I completely misread Federwa's article before... I thought she was telling folks to not date at all, which is why I brought up her married status. Now upon further reading, I see that's not even close to what she said.

Good articles, both of them. Thanks for posting!
 
Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

CHECK= BEEN THERE.... DONE THAT

BUT … wait! Before you cruise down the produce aisle, check out some reasons why dating is not the move for you right now.
  1. God has impressed upon you not to get involved with anyone for a (specified or unspecified) reason intense healing/grieving or length of time 6years CHECK
  2. God has instructed you to allow the opportunity for your unmarried ex-spouse to reconcile with you (this is normally the rule, not the exception) met with him specifically on these biblical grounds as there was and is still a lot of love there..he remarried someone else CHECK
  3. You’re not completely healed emotionally from past relationships (angry, depressed, needy, or bitter)while there will always be some residual work of the past and forgiving 70x7 on a daily basis my heart is clear CHECK
  4. You’re insecure or hoping another person will complete you (emotionally, financially, or spiritually) or make you happy I would rather be ..alone... than have that kind of dependency on anyone except God..I know what it's like to give some one else that space :sad: DOUBLE CHECK
  5. You’re not “technically” divorced see number 2 CHECK
  6. You’re rebounding from another relationship nope took 6 years to heal and still am healing but not rebounding.. dated(ing) many people but being very careful of potential commitments CHECK
  7. You have a history of choosing “losers” and haven’t figured out why or how to stop the cycle therapy ..doing the work of my heart incredible friends and a loving God provide divine intervention,insight and a soul searching inventory have helped this CHECK
The Work in Progress....Looking forward to this

1. Be Self-Centered!
2. See Past the Head-Over-Heels Love-At-First-Sight Fantasy
3. Get Help (from the right sources)
4. Extend Yourself
5. Don't Give Up and Don't Stop Praying

Excellent articles! Thank you! Very helpful to have the( dating romance covenant )relationship quest process articulated..... to look back and see the work by the grace of God, that's already been put in.. and what is yet left to do:look:

Count it all joy!
Feels good!
 
Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

I really like the first article. I just don't know if I agree with one of the points.

Key Point 4: The servant prayed specifically for God to reveal the one right woman (verses 12-14). Pray specifically, and recognize there is one particular person God made/intended for you to be with. Does it make any sense that God wouldn’t have a specific opinion about whom you share the rest of your life with? If He has a specific plan for your life (and He does), why wouldn’t He have an opinion on who could best help you fulfill that plan? Note that Rebecca was the answer to both Abe’s and his servant’s requests. She was one of Abraham’s relatives (as he prayed for) and she specifically met the requests of the servant to a T (verses 15-27).


I don't know that I believe there is only one person God intends/approves for a person to marry. That doesn't make sense to me.

If that were true and God intended you to marry John Doe Christian man, what happens if John Doe Christian man is in rebellion from God, or rushed his process and decided to marry Single Sally instead of you? Does that mean that you're not supposed to get married now b/c your one match from God is taken now? Or do you now get a second rate husband instead of your true "soulmate"?

This logic doesn't seem to fit with God's character. I'll allow that for some people (like Issac and Rebekah) God may truly want them to marry a specific person. But I don't think that story can be expanded to say that that's the way God would have it be for everyone.
 
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Re: Two Articles on Dating: Jewish: "Five Lessons in Dating"; Christian: "Wait or Dat

I really like the first article. I just don't know if I agree with one of the points.




I don't know that I believe there is only one person God intends/approves for a person to marry. That doesn't make sense to me.

If that were true and God intended you to marry John Doe Christian man, what happens if John Doe Christian man is in rebellion from God, or rushed his process and decided to marry Single Sally instead of you? Does that mean that you're not supposed to get married now b/c your one match from God is taken now? Or do you now get a second rate husband instead of your true "soulmate"?

This logic doesn't seem to fit with God's character. I'll allow that for some people (like Issac and Rebekah) God may truly want them to marry a specific person. But I don't think that story can be expanded to say that that's the way God would have it be for everyone.

I am fully persuaded that my Lord Jesus Christ is SMART and STRATEGIC enough that someone else's MISTAKE/DISOBEDIENCE/FREE WILL CHOICE does not NEGATE MY BLESSING.

Romans 8:28 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose."
 
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