Thigh Length Type 4 Natural!!! I’m Shook!

How long is too long for a “protective style?”


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I don’t think so she says she puts a tablespoon of acv into her avj. I assume like a spray bottle full. She also says she uses a hot rag to help with cleaning.
Also she says this is how she cleans her hair while it’s twisted to keep frizz down.
It seems she actually removed the twists to cleanse. Idk how she cleanses but I assumed she used something. The products mentioned in the video are for maintaining her twisted hair is the impression I got.

Yeah, she just said ACV in the AVJ, but she didn't say how much.

Going to watch the next video! Thanks for posting it.
 
Yeah, she just said ACV in the AVJ, but she didn't say how much.

Going to watch the next video! Thanks for posting it.
Watch the first video at about 8 minutes in she says about a tbsp.


I’d love to do something like this but my hair doesn’t stay twisted and I have scalp issues that need nizoral.
Maybe I’ll try stopping my shampoo use during a raw cleanse and see if my diet is wrecking havoc on my scalp.
 
I LOVE twists! That's my preferred style because its protective and can be worn in a variety of ways. I also just like the look of long, thick, twisted ropes of natural hair. My scalp won't allow long term wear of any style, so I do medium or large twists and wash at minimum, once a week. But like @Saga , I would also like to have a long single braid. Stylistically, I just prefer super simple, classic protective styles.
 
Watch the first video at about 8 minutes in she says about a tbsp.


I’d love to do something like this but my hair doesn’t stay twisted and I have scalp issues that need nizoral.
Maybe I’ll try stopping my shampoo use during a raw cleanse and see if my diet is wrecking havoc on my scalp.

I hope that your scalp responds well to the diet change! My friend tried an elimination diet for a couple of months to help with her eczema. I think she saw some response .

I think it takes some time to notice diet changes in your skin. It might be better to slowly space out you Nixoral use before quitting to avoid having to try to gain control over a flare up in your scalp.
 
I hope that your scalp responds well to the diet change! My friend tried an elimination diet for a couple of months to help with her eczema. I think she saw some response .

I think it takes some time to notice diet changes in your skin. It might be better to slowly space out you Nixoral use before quitting to avoid having to try to gain control over a flare up in your scalp.
Thank you for the encouragement !
 
I basically stay in protective styles. I like doing different styles but I don’t want to damange my hair. I just ordered 2 short wigs for the winter, I’ll braid my perimeter and twist the interior so it will be easier to redo every 3-4 weeks. I plan on keeping my hair in a protective style all next year too
 
Even though she is not traditionally washing and conditioning, she regularly detangles and cleans her hair. She didn’t have that crazy nasty build up.

My first years natural were spent in twists and mini braids. They are great protective style. I was satisfied with different hair clips, head bands, etc. I would not wash my hair in twists because my hair would lock. I can go 3-4 weeks without washing. I would do sea breeze on my scalp and run damp cloth over my twists. Mini braids, I would do the whole 9 yards- pre poo, wash, dc, de-tangle, moisture, and seal. I could keep them in 2 to 3 months. The fuzzier they look, the better.

Eventually I got bored and started other styles.

I forgot my hair loves castor oil. I need to get back to it.

Off topic: lately I’ve become obsessed with transformation videos of hair left in protective style too long or just not taken care of. Omg. I know that hair itches and stinks!
 
Even though she is not traditionally washing and conditioning, she regularly detangles and cleans her hair. She didn’t have that crazy nasty build up.

My first years natural were spent in twists and mini braids. They are great protective style. I was satisfied with different hair clips, head bands, etc. I would not wash my hair in twists because my hair would lock. I can go 3-4 weeks without washing. I would do sea breeze on my scalp and run damp cloth over my twists. Mini braids, I would do the whole 9 yards- pre poo, wash, dc, de-tangle, moisture, and seal. I could keep them in 2 to 3 months. The fuzzier they look, the better.

Eventually I got bored and started other styles.

I forgot my hair loves castor oil. I need to get back to it.

Off topic: lately I’ve become obsessed with transformation videos of hair left in protective style too long or just not taken care of. Omg. I know that hair itches and stinks!

With the little I know about her regie, it made me think of a variation of a "water only" routine.
 
I just watched her latest video and now I'm sold on revisiting flaxseed gel. Mine was never anywhere near that thick, so I know I must have been doing it wrong.

I love the thickness of that gel, too! I also have never seen it made that thick. She used 2 x 2 ounce packages and 24 to 30 ounces of water and let it boil until it got thick with a coating on top.
 
With the little I know about her regie, it made me think of a variation of a "water only" routine.


Not sure if you saw this one, but towards the end she explains that she doesn't use shampoo or conditioner. Her twists are almost always in, she doesn't take them all down to retwist them. I think Nonie, a member who doesn't seem to be around anymore, used that same method with braids, but she did wash them if I'm not mistaken. I can understand that thigh length hair would be extremely heavy to get soaked in water. Still not sure how the ACV thing works so hopefully she puts that video up soon!

ETA: Answering the question on cleasing/ACV

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I love the thickness of that gel, too! I also have never seen it made that thick. She used 2 x 2 ounce packages and 24 to 30 ounces of water and let it boil until it got thick with a coating on top.

I used the same method this go round and it's boiling as we speak. I don't use mine for twists, I use it to bun my hair when it is damp in place of chemical gels, but I'll update anyways if the thicker mix works better. :)

ETA: I normally boil mine so that it foams up in just a few minutes. Then I put it on low and it gets slimy, so it's usually done in just 10 minutes or less. She mentioned putting hers on low, so mine's been cooking for quite some time now. So my guess is she cooks hers slower and longer in comparison to most people who seem to boil theirs.
 
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Not sure if you saw this one, but towards the end she explains that she doesn't use shampoo or conditioner. Her twists are almost always in, she doesn't take them all down to retwist them. I think Nonie, a member who doesn't seem to be around anymore, used that same method with braids, but she did wash them if I'm not mistaken. I can understand that thigh length hair would be extremely heavy to get soaked in water. Still not sure how the ACV thing works so hopefully she puts that video up soon!

ETA: Answering the question on cleasing/ACV

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The wateronlyhairwashing lady also didn't use shampoo or conditioner and instead used other organic things like rice or aloe to clean her hair (amongst other things). I think she was beyond WL before she decided to loc her hair. The idea was that her sebum would be enough to condition and moisturize her hair. I'm wondering if straight AVJ yields similar results.
 
So, she pretty much does water only hair washing. Sorry...that's all I got since we've discussed that process elsewhere.

Did she say what her moisturzing routine is like in any of the videos? Her hair reminds me a lot of the wateronlyhairwashing lady (when she had loose hair).
 
So, she pretty much does water only hair washing. Sorry...that's all I got since we've discussed that process elsewhere.

Did she say what her moisturzing routine is like in any of the videos? Her hair reminds me a lot of the wateronlyhairwashing lady (when she had loose hair).

My understanding is that she uses undiluted AVJ for moisture during the week and seals with castor oil.

She puts flaxseed gel on the last couple of inches of her twists to keep her ends from unraveling or tangling.
 
My understanding is that she uses undiluted AVJ for moisture during the week and seals with castor oil.

She puts flaxseed gel on the last couple of inches of her twists to keep her ends from unraveling or tangling.

Thanks! I should add that I'm not disappointed by her routine. Just the opposite. I've been scared to go full on with water only, but I think that after seeing this I'll experiment a bit more.
 
You know, I read that, but it was just hard for me to believe that she uses only ACV and AVJ. I remember a blogger (I can’t remember her name) who looked at ACV washed hair under a microscope and the hair wasn’t clean or even clean-ish. She must not get itchy scalp or anything from it.

Beautiful hair.

I think I know who you’re referring to. I saw a YouTube video by the channel name Nappturelle, where she did a video show how the hair and scalp looked under a microscope when using different cleansing methods. Her videos were in French and English.
 
I love her routine but I couldn't do her wash routine personally.

1)ACV imo is great for deoderizing but not removing build up. You NEED shampoo for that. You need a surfactant to remove the dirt and oil from the hair and scalp. ACV doesn't have one which is why it just deoderizes but doesn't actually clean.

2)The mustard oil is actually her dc. That's fine if you don't use shampoo but what are the benefits of mustard oil? Couldn't she use another oil or blend of oils that don't smell (or smell more neutral). I couldn't use a product in my hair that literally made me turn my nose up at it everytime I smelled it. I would just use something with the same benefits but smelled neutral to me.

Because of those two things I question her wash routine as an only source of "cleansing" the hair and would modify it to make it my own if I ever used it.
 
I love her routine but I couldn't do her wash routine personally.

1)ACV imo is great for deoderizing but not removing build up. You NEED shampoo for that. You need a surfactant to remove the dirt and oil from the hair and scalp. ACV doesn't have one which is why it just deoderizes but doesn't actually clean.

2)The mustard oil is actually her dc. That's fine if you don't use shampoo but what are the benefits of mustard oil? Couldn't she use another oil or blend of oils that don't smell (or smell more neutral). I couldn't use a product in my hair that literally made me turn my nose up at it everytime I smelled it. I would just use something with the same benefits but smelled neutral to me.

Because of those two things I question her wash routine as an only source of "cleansing" the hair and would modify it to make it my own if I ever used it.

Mustard oil has sulphur within it. The sulphur can act as an anti-microbial and anti-fungal on the hair and the scalp. Thus, keeping both scalp and hair clean in that it may be able to prevent bacteria and fungus from forming.
 
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