oneastrocurlie
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Then there's this magically ish lol.
Warning: the caption has some unpopular opinions.
Warning: the caption has some unpopular opinions.
Are Devacuts For Kinky Hair? (type 4)
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She cut off a lot OP. I was confused bc your after picture is first, but I don't think she needed to cut that much to give you the shape you wanted.
I personally would not get a Deva cut unless I wanted a short cut bc that's what you typically get.
I do think they're fine for any hair type, you just have to be ok with losing a lot of length.
I personally would not get a Deva cut unless I wanted a short cut bc that's what you typically get.
I do think they're fine for any hair type, you just have to be ok with losing a lot of length.
Theresamonet
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This result has more to do with the styling afterwards than the cut. It’s in its shrunken state in the before. We don’t know how long her hair actually was.
But generally, this stylist seems to cut more off the bottom and leaves the top and crown long. She probably still cut off mega inches, but it doesn’t look so dramatic because of the long top layer. I don’t understand why OP’s stylist didn’t do that for her. That seems like what she wanted based on the inspiration photo. I don’t think she had to hack off so much of the top, crown, middle of OP’s hair.
Did you ask for a lot of volume op?
oneastrocurlie
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Agreed. I do think too much was cut off the OP.
kxlot79
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@oneastrocurlie @GettingKinky @Theresamonet @FoxxyLocs
I appreciate y’all’s examination of my pics lol
I really do!
None of my friends irl have hair past their shoulders or are much into hair, so they basically have gaslit me since my haircut. I started to wonder if I really was crazy. I’m looking at the pictures seeing a huge difference and they’re like “Nope, maybe an inch or two.”
This is compounded because I can get up to 80% shrinkage, and I mostly wear my hair in buns or two flat twists or unstyled so it’s rare for them to really see my hair stretched out or straightened and my true length was always abstract to them because they don’t really understand shrinkage.
My Before hair completely shrunken was about 2 inches shorter than my Now hair after all the elongation and stretching possible w/o using heat. Even with all that manipulating, I have no hangtime, whereas before just a bit of product would give me swangin hair.
It’s so tempting to feel like “What was even the point of this haircut when my hair was healthy before and I can’t even wear this cut as a style??” The plan was to be able to do less manipulating to achieve the kind of WnG I like without all the tugging and pressing different sections.
All I really want to do is hide my hair.
And hiding a fresh +$200 haircut is just...
I’m trying real hard not to beat a dead horse, especially since it’s too little too late and nothing can be done about it. But y’all are my only source of venting Hair. So...
I appreciate y’all’s examination of my pics lol
I really do!None of my friends irl have hair past their shoulders or are much into hair, so they basically have gaslit me since my haircut. I started to wonder if I really was crazy. I’m looking at the pictures seeing a huge difference and they’re like “Nope, maybe an inch or two.”
This is compounded because I can get up to 80% shrinkage, and I mostly wear my hair in buns or two flat twists or unstyled so it’s rare for them to really see my hair stretched out or straightened and my true length was always abstract to them because they don’t really understand shrinkage.
My Before hair completely shrunken was about 2 inches shorter than my Now hair after all the elongation and stretching possible w/o using heat. Even with all that manipulating, I have no hangtime, whereas before just a bit of product would give me swangin hair.
It’s so tempting to feel like “What was even the point of this haircut when my hair was healthy before and I can’t even wear this cut as a style??” The plan was to be able to do less manipulating to achieve the kind of WnG I like without all the tugging and pressing different sections.
All I really want to do is hide my hair.
And hiding a fresh +$200 haircut is just...I’m trying real hard not to beat a dead horse, especially since it’s too little too late and nothing can be done about it. But y’all are my only source of venting Hair. So...
kxlot79
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I appreciate all your feedback, honest! Thanks for sharing your pics!
I think my hair looks nothing like what I asked for. I think I asked for a “cleanup” of my existing shape (like taking a bit off the top and rounding the sides), but instead got a tapered haircut. The hair at my nape is about 2” long and before this haircut, my shortest layer was 10” long (and this was near my ears).
My volume isn’t any greater. My length is just poof. And while I was thinking I’d coast to WL in 6-10 months after my haircut, now I know I’ll have to aggressively protective style for big chunks of time if I want BSL before 2 years.
I liked my WnGs before this haircut; I just finally felt ready to get it cut into the shape I like to wear instead of having to manipulate my mostly even hair into a rounded shape. Now, it’s cut into the shape I want but I won’t want to wear it for a while. Oh well, I guess.
For the record, as someone mentioned upthread, I think your hair was mostly cut on the bottom layer so the appearance of length reduction isn’t bad at all. And your shape has been rounded and cleaned up such that you have less work (banding in a ponytail) to do to achieve a shape that’s wearable for you. In a few months, you’ll probably have the volume you lost right back— and actually I could even say what you’ve done is what I was trying to do.
Beautiful hair, btw!
I think my hair looks nothing like what I asked for. I think I asked for a “cleanup” of my existing shape (like taking a bit off the top and rounding the sides), but instead got a tapered haircut. The hair at my nape is about 2” long and before this haircut, my shortest layer was 10” long (and this was near my ears).
My volume isn’t any greater. My length is just poof. And while I was thinking I’d coast to WL in 6-10 months after my haircut, now I know I’ll have to aggressively protective style for big chunks of time if I want BSL before 2 years.
I liked my WnGs before this haircut; I just finally felt ready to get it cut into the shape I like to wear instead of having to manipulate my mostly even hair into a rounded shape. Now, it’s cut into the shape I want but I won’t want to wear it for a while. Oh well, I guess.
For the record, as someone mentioned upthread, I think your hair was mostly cut on the bottom layer so the appearance of length reduction isn’t bad at all. And your shape has been rounded and cleaned up such that you have less work (banding in a ponytail) to do to achieve a shape that’s wearable for you. In a few months, you’ll probably have the volume you lost right back— and actually I could even say what you’ve done is what I was trying to do.
Beautiful hair, btw!
kxlot79
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It IS possible for a Deva stylist (or general stylist) to cut the same amount of length all over (like when they do big chops and just cut the straight pieces)— but this is generally not a “style” and often doesn’t look that great. Even when hair is cut to appear even, different sections are different lengths.
For the shape I have, my stylist could have kept the ratios/proportions of how much she cut the same and just cut less. Like taking off 2” from my nape instead of 13” or taking off 2”-4” off my sides instead of 7”-18”
Your comparison of a topiary is spot on!
And I think of the shape of hair as something that can exist outside of length. Which is why people with long, uneven hair can have a dramatic improvement in its appearance even with a lot of hair/length taken off. And if my hair was super uneven, I could understand what she did, but I think she just didn’t factor in my high shrinkage even while dry.
For the shape I have, my stylist could have kept the ratios/proportions of how much she cut the same and just cut less. Like taking off 2” from my nape instead of 13” or taking off 2”-4” off my sides instead of 7”-18”
Your comparison of a topiary is spot on!
And I think of the shape of hair as something that can exist outside of length. Which is why people with long, uneven hair can have a dramatic improvement in its appearance even with a lot of hair/length taken off. And if my hair was super uneven, I could understand what she did, but I think she just didn’t factor in my high shrinkage even while dry.
kxlot79
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@oneastrocurlie
Fantastic posts! I actually saw my stylist do this for some looser curls, and she’s certified at Level 3 so I thought she could do this for me as well. The kinkier textures she had on her page didn’t have long, healthy hair to begin with, so if there was a dramatic length loss, it was not apparent and their hair looked a lot healthier/better after their cuts.
The stylists I saw with more kinky haired clients were either not Deva certified (and had some hit/miss customer service) or they were unresponsive to my inquiries (bad customer service/business acumen), so I went with the super nice stylist with a reputation that made me feel like the odds were in my favor in rolling the dice.
You are very lucky to have cheyhair in your curllife. Lol
Also, what cheyhair is doing is what I thought I was asking for: clean up my shape and keep as much length as possible.
To cut as much hair as mine was cut given this directive only makes sense for severely damaged hair, which mine was not so...
Fantastic posts! I actually saw my stylist do this for some looser curls, and she’s certified at Level 3 so I thought she could do this for me as well. The kinkier textures she had on her page didn’t have long, healthy hair to begin with, so if there was a dramatic length loss, it was not apparent and their hair looked a lot healthier/better after their cuts.
The stylists I saw with more kinky haired clients were either not Deva certified (and had some hit/miss customer service) or they were unresponsive to my inquiries (bad customer service/business acumen), so I went with the super nice stylist with a reputation that made me feel like the odds were in my favor in rolling the dice.
You are very lucky to have cheyhair in your curllife. Lol
Also, what cheyhair is doing is what I thought I was asking for: clean up my shape and keep as much length as possible.
To cut as much hair as mine was cut given this directive only makes sense for severely damaged hair, which mine was not so...
kxlot79
Kitchen Mixtress
I agree that styling plays a huge role in the appearance of hair.
This is why I feel my Before/After is super dramatic. My hair is in THE EXACT SAME STATE: first day minimal product wash and gos. I have HUGE hangtime in my Before. My hair isn’t stretched at all in the Before pic. That’s what it looks like with a bit of product. Not even shingled or diffused. My After hair has been stretched and tugged at and diffused. I’m too embarrassed to show my no-product shrunken hair or unstretched WnG.
At the bolded... I don’t understand either. And she was so nice, I feel like most of the blame for this mess must be on me.
How do you look at the picture I provided and get what I got? Idk.
I did not ask for lots of volume. I said nothing about volume. I stressed length. My hair was already voluminous with minimal product and zero manipulation.
This is why I feel my Before/After is super dramatic. My hair is in THE EXACT SAME STATE: first day minimal product wash and gos. I have HUGE hangtime in my Before. My hair isn’t stretched at all in the Before pic. That’s what it looks like with a bit of product. Not even shingled or diffused. My After hair has been stretched and tugged at and diffused. I’m too embarrassed to show my no-product shrunken hair or unstretched WnG.
At the bolded... I don’t understand either. And she was so nice, I feel like most of the blame for this mess must be on me.
How do you look at the picture I provided and get what I got? Idk.
I did not ask for lots of volume. I said nothing about volume. I stressed length. My hair was already voluminous with minimal product and zero manipulation.
oneastrocurlie
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kxlot79
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UPDATE!!!
I had my first really satisfying WnG since my disaster haircut (really it felt like a BC) yesterday so I had to share!
My hair is back BSB! I will be BSL within the year and WL probably in another 10-12 months!!! I’m SO happy y’all!
My nape was cut so short, it’s my shortest layer of hair. I’m actually very pleased with the shape that has grown out, though touching it up over the months has made me adept at maintaining it to my liking (where I was not confident in my ability to do this pre-horrific cut), so that is proof positive that there’s always a silver lining, even if you have to squint to see it!
My nape hair went from barely touching the MIDDLE of my neck to now touching the middle of my shoulder blades!!!! In a year, y’all!! A year!!! I got ~9” of hair in a year!! Whoa!
I had my first really satisfying WnG since my disaster haircut (really it felt like a BC) yesterday so I had to share!
My hair is back BSB! I will be BSL within the year and WL probably in another 10-12 months!!! I’m SO happy y’all!
My nape was cut so short, it’s my shortest layer of hair. I’m actually very pleased with the shape that has grown out, though touching it up over the months has made me adept at maintaining it to my liking (where I was not confident in my ability to do this pre-horrific cut), so that is proof positive that there’s always a silver lining, even if you have to squint to see it!
My nape hair went from barely touching the MIDDLE of my neck to now touching the middle of my shoulder blades!!!! In a year, y’all!! A year!!! I got ~9” of hair in a year!! Whoa!
metro_qt
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Your shape is so cute! I knew you could do it!
Like me, it took a year to grow into this cut.
This thread comes at the right time for me, i scheduled a deva cut last week for when the salons re open.
Theresamonet
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This is some awesome length retention. What has been your regimen?
healthyhair2
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I'm sorry. Am I the only one who thinks this wasn't such a good cut? First of all ,WAY too much hair length lost. The shape is not even close to what you asked for, it makes the hair look too poofy. Your hair texture is not that different from the pic you showed either. I would never trust these people at Deva salons to do my hair. I know this sounds harsh, but I would have been livid at that stylist. Shaping doesn't take 10 inches of cutting to achieve.
kxlot79
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kxlot79
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Pretty basic weekly maintenance: cleanse, deep condition, leave-in/cream. Minimal styling (buns, chunky twists, WnG 1-2x month) with no extensions/wigs.
The babying/extraness is reincorporating Ayurveda in my DCs and leave-ins. Most notably: near daily spritzing of a black rice water based spray I make myself weekly, and an Ayurvedic butter/oil I put on my ends.
The babying/extraness is reincorporating Ayurveda in my DCs and leave-ins. Most notably: near daily spritzing of a black rice water based spray I make myself weekly, and an Ayurvedic butter/oil I put on my ends.
kxlot79
Kitchen Mixtress
Thanks sis!
I think posters were trying to make me feel better, and honestly it worked. I can laugh about it now but I cried over it every week for about a month lol. I am sure I would’ve been more inconsolable without LHCF to vent to because my friends and family were totally trying to gaslight me.
For reference, the “After” pic was a super stretched out twist out, with all the plucking and fluffing I could muster. And my pics this year is a DAY ONE WnG with a good 55%-60% of shrinkage.
I think posters were trying to make me feel better, and honestly it worked. I can laugh about it now but I cried over it every week for about a month lol. I am sure I would’ve been more inconsolable without LHCF to vent to because my friends and family were totally trying to gaslight me.
For reference, the “After” pic was a super stretched out twist out, with all the plucking and fluffing I could muster. And my pics this year is a DAY ONE WnG with a good 55%-60% of shrinkage.
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