One of the reasons I like Catholicism is cuz everything is all worked out already and written down some where, like hadiths for Islam or whatever. Somebody already thought about it, debated it with other people, and decided, centuries ago. Makes it very easy to understand follow properly. I find Protestantism to be a... schismatic mess. Too many cooks spoil the stew.
It made me laugh too! Now abortion is OK for forgiveness. People are going to do what they feel is best for them on issues like this one. People have abortions for many reasons.
Mine's half Muslim (NOI--> Sunni), half AME Zion. Both sides are devout, pastors and strong church folks on one side, hijabis and such on the other. One of my god mothers, RIP Aunt Joanie, was a black Jew, born in the religion, not a convert (she used to cook for Sammie Davis Jr when he was here). And then I went to Catholic school... and then Episcopalian. I like to think I know just enough about everybody.
One of the reasons I like Catholicism is cuz everything is all worked out already and written down some where, like hadiths for Islam or whatever. Somebody already thought about it, debated it with other people, and decided, centuries ago. Makes it very easy to understand follow properly. I find Protestantism to be a... schismatic mess. Too many cooks spoil the stew.
Precisely why I'm here. Nobody forced, coerced, shamed, spewed fire and brimstone while omitting the California redwood in their own eye. I even debate and call into question practices that were unholy (slavery and other nonsense) that the Church overlooked/allowed before it finally moved, from it's fault, omission etc. and nobody bats and eye. We are to use our intellect as G-d's gift and we can question things. As you said, much of it has already been worked out. It's a living, breathing church, so is the completed bible and like the Torah from which it all comes, it was meant to be permeable with the times. I know someone is going to get bent out of shape with that and start calling jezebel spirit and other such nonsense. But it's how I see it. We don't know everything but the things we do know, we know them and it's written. You don't have to guess on those.
Right. Not to be disrespectful at all. But people either had to go along with the Catholic Church or be killed for entertainment. I don't think it's in good taste to say all were in agreement. The scriptures were withheld and dissidents were persecuted. That's what created the reformation.
Uh...what now?I'm protestant. But honestly I understand the shade or whatever. A church can't just kill hundreds of millions of people for their beliefs. I don't like or trust this pope, he's basically trying to reestablish Catholic supremacy, hence the official declarations (a few weeks ago) that that reformation is officially over and trying to grandfather everyone else into the Catholic Church. He's about to set up a global religion, except it won't be technically religious since certain things are being given more leeway and acceptance. Read Laudato Si (his encyclical published in May 2015). He literally says that we have to observe Sunday (part of his systems beliefs )to prevent climate change. I feel like that's deceptive to try and indoctrinate based on "What's good for the world " etc.
People are not even ready for or read to comprehend what's about to happen.
I'm Protestant too. So as a general rule I tend to not pay too much attention to what goes on with the Catholic Church. I haven't even read most of the responses in this thread. I do me, and I let them do them. But...
I'm protestant. But honestly I understand the shade or whatever. A church can't just kill hundreds of millions of people for their beliefs. I don't like or trust this pope, he's basically trying to reestablish Catholic supremacy, hence the official declarations (a few weeks ago) that that reformation is officially over and trying to grandfather everyone else into the Catholic Church. He's about to set up a global religion, except it won't be technically religious since certain things are being given more leeway and acceptance. Read Laudato Si (his encyclical published in May 2015). He literally says that we have to observe Sunday (part of his systems beliefs )to prevent climate change. I feel like that's deceptive to try and indoctrinate based on "What's good for the world " etc.
People are not even ready for or read to comprehend what's about to happen.
Uh...what now?
What exactly do he THINK 'bout to happen?
Uh...what now?
What exactly do he THINK 'bout to happen?
Thank you for this info!
@ang3lface816, I appreciate you providing these links for me. I've skimmed through them but haven't seen any official declaration of the reformation being over or everyone being grandfathered into the Catholic church as you stated in your previous post. For me as a Protestant Christian, the most important part of the reformation is that I have the right to directly approach God the Father due to the sacrifice made by Jesus Christ when he died on the cross and rose again - no priests or hail Marys necessary. I didn't see any language like that in what I read. What I saw was mostly just a push for the business and civic world to let up so that people can actually rest on the Sabbath. I'm not sure if you ever confirmed that you are SDA, but if you are, I can see how that might seem intrusive to you and that perhaps the Catholic church is overstepping its bounds. However, I'm not SDA and have always recognized Sunday as the Sabbath. Of late, that's changed for me, as I'm more inclined to agree with the Jewish calendar with the Sabbath beginning at sundown Friday and ending sundown on Saturday, but that's neither here nor there for me as far as the Catholic church pushing for an actual world wide day of rest. I personally think it would be good for people, but then I'm not really a legalist. So regardless of my own leanings about the Sabbath, I'm not likely to get up in arms about which day anyone else chooses to recognize, and I feel that I'm free to recognize whichever day I'm inspired to recognize. I don't really feel threatened by this at all unless someone is going to threaten to throw me in jail over recognizing one day over the other.
