Shea Growth And Retention Regimen 2018

Has Shea Butter 'got you'?

  • Let me look over my investment portfolio and see if I have room for shea related stocks.

    Votes: 21 12.8%

  • I've got 8 pounds in the house, I need to order me some more because I don't want to run out.

    Votes: 29 17.7%

  • 1 Day without sealing my ends is just unthinkable.

    Votes: 12 7.3%

  • It works for me for now.

    Votes: 45 27.4%

  • Nah, I can take it or leave it.

    Votes: 12 7.3%

  • Meh, I'm here for the posts.

    Votes: 28 17.1%

  • That stuff just weighs down my hair. No thanks!

    Votes: 17 10.4%
  • Total voters
    164
YvetteWithJoy said:
Oh this was in reply to an article?

My limits on misinformation have officially been reached.

It's hard enough figuring out your hair without articles like this, posted no less at a site called "Black Doctor."

I give! :thud:
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Yeah the article that Chicoro linked above. IDK, I just didn't agree with what the stylist was saying about shea butter and coconut oil. Everything doesn't work for everyone, but the reasons she was stating were not very valid imo...plus her hair didn't look all that. :look:
 
YvetteWithJoy said:
Oh this was in reply to an article?

My limits on misinformation have officially been reached.

It's hard enough figuring out your hair without articles like this, posted no less at a site called "Black Doctor."

I give! :thud:
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Yes its the same article. @Chicoro posted it here. It's what made her ask us about build up.

https://longhaircareforum.com/threa...ion-regimen-2018.828439/page-20#post-24465311

The reasons the article gave apply to all oils and butters and any product based on them. If coconut oil is heavy to her then what's left? It just does not make sense.
 
It seems like shea butter is best for protective styles, right?

I think one of the main problems when people use oils and butters is the lack of clarifying on occasion. Even lil Miss Oil Rinsing uses clay and oat water to get rid of build-up a few times a year.
 
Sharpened said:
It seems like shea butter is best for protective styles, right?

I think one of the main problems when people use oils and butters is the lack of clarifying on occasion. Even lil Miss Oil Rinsing uses clay and oat water to get rid of build-up a few times a year.
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That's true and it also depends on how much you use. I used my shea mix for my WnG two days ago, and my hair is definitely not greasy. I bunned my hair and added some more on top, then some more again and I still can't get oil on my hand when I rub it on my hair.
 
Are people really not clarifying/ shampooing regularly? o_O I'm shocked bc I have a tendency to shampoo too much, maybe due to the fineness of my hair. I love shampoo. :look:

[But, in an effort to be kinder to my hair, I'm making an African black soap 3-in- 1 body wash/ shampoo/ light conditioner (suitable for SO's hair, not mine, I intend to follow up with cond). I'll make it as soon as I get my thermometer I ordered. :rolleyes: I'm doing it official, with preservatives and all that, and you have to 'heat and hold' at a certain temp.]
 
Sally. said:
So just to again confirm @ThatJerseyGirl and @Chicoro idea that Shea Butter is meant for kinky, coily Black hair and will take it to new heights, this morning I watched the video below on how her hair grew and became so much thicker in 7 months. The second piece of advice she lists is to use products with ingredients you can pronounce and then she takes out one of her favorite products called Fro Butter and the first ingredient is of course Shea Butter!

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I just watched this vid earlier today and thought about posting it. Anyone who wear their coils like I do automatically gets a look-see from me.
 
IDareT'sHair said:
@ThatJerseyGirl
Glad you tried the Double-B method and had good results doing this.:up: I have some powders. I may make a couple with Powders to see how it turns out.

I'll prolly just stick in the freezer for about an hour.

Not sure what Powder(s) I'll use? I have: Amla, Bramhi, Tulsi and Kalpi-Tone oh and some Rose Powder. It will probably be Amla or Brahmi. Those two seem to be the one(s) I am most familiar with.
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@Chicoro -- I don't know how to multi-reply so to answer your other inquiry. @IDareT'sHair - I think a good growth and strengthening combo is Amla, Methi (fenugreek), Brahmi, Neem & Maka (Bhringraj).

I haven't had any buildup when I was on the shea butter because my hair stay moisturized so there was no issues there. I didn't have to apply it often throughout the week, so no issues with buildup. Also, you don't need that much because a little really does go a long way.

The double boiler method for me worked and my butters still came out fluffy and whipped. I guess because I let the butters harden in the fridge. The only reason why I did the DB method was for the purposes of mixing those powders.

I took a picture of the final result so that you could see the color and texture of the mixture. I should have taken a picture of the butters when they melted down, but I started cooking at 4:00 am so that is when I made my butters because I knew the process would be long. I didn't think to take pictures while I was making it. Hell, I was cleaning collard greens.....I will say that when I used the wooden skewers to stir the powder and the butters and oils, I looked at this as a infusion method because the mixture was warm, so it's infusing. When I put it in the refrigerator, it's still infusing. There is no grainy feel at all. Just pure goodness! My powders were purchased at an Indian grocery store here in Virginia. Norfolk, VA to be exact.

I will use this mixture in between my tracks and on my edges, although I never had an issue with my edges.

The Shea butter mix can be used in so many different ways instead of a leave in conditioner. For example, I would use the mixture as a deep conditioner by adding on of your favorite conditioner to a small amount of your shea mix, concentrating on your scalp, edges and ends. When you rinse your hair, it should be very moisturized, this way, you won't have to use too much when you style your hair.
 
IDareT'sHair said:
@ThatJerseyGirl
Thanks for sharing that Eye Candy!:love:

How long with one of those delicious looking jars last you?:lick:
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Usually, around three months. My husband uses it too on his beard and he has been complaining that his beard is too thick and growing. I knew what it was because I had to look for it. He is always using my stuff. Even my Tom Ford. Now lemme tell u....all bets were off at dat point...dont mess wif my TF. I had to put my stuff in a witness protection program....gotta gitcha own

As for those heavy duty mason jars, I purchased those at Big Lots and I have seen them at Dollar Store as well.
 
Honey Bee said:
Are people really not clarifying/ shampooing regularly? o_O I'm shocked bc I have a tendency to shampoo too much, maybe due to the fineness of my hair. I love shampoo. :look:

[But, in an effort to be kinder to my hair, I'm making an African black soap 3-in- 1 body wash/ shampoo/ light conditioner (suitable for SO's hair, not mine, I intend to follow up with cond). I'll make it as soon as I get my thermometer I ordered. :rolleyes: I'm doing it official, with preservatives and all that, and you have to 'heat and hold' at a certain temp.]
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I know you are being silly but I’m so proud of you :2inlove:
 
IDareT'sHair said:
@Chicoro
And I also meant on YT Videos? I watched the ones the members have posted in this thread and no one really really addressed an issue of excessive build-up?

Seems like folks would have been discussing build up and how hard it is to remove if it was an on-going problem.

I haven't notice @ElevatedEnergy @beauti @ThatJerseyGirl and the many other additional Unicorns here addressing excessive build-up and SB having a negative effect on their growth and retention.

j/s?
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No shea build up over here! :toocool:

One tip I can give to the group is before you apply your cleanser, rinse your hair with warm water for a little longer than normal. Rinse and smooth. The warm water and the smoothing motion will get the bulk of the shea butter out.
 
Sharpened said:
It seems like shea butter is best for protective styles, right?

I think one of the main problems when people use oils and butters is the lack of clarifying on occasion. Even lil Miss Oil Rinsing uses clay and oat water to get rid of build-up a few times a year.
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This is the only way that it works for my hair, in a protective style. But I've seen several people use it for braid outs and twist outs with beautiful results! If I do a braid out with this in my hair, it's not very attractive: greasy, hard, shrunken hair! But that is my hair. I think it depends on the hair of the individual.
 
ThatJerseyGirl said:
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That looks YUMMY!

Thank you for posting. That actually looks edible!

Your butters came out good. I love the glass jars that you used, too.

That video you posted with the lady who mixed powders in her butter was really inspiring. She made the process look inviting as she mixed down her ingredients. She had a lot of things to add but it didn't seem excessive. It was a well-thought out mixture. I like your mixture as well. Thank you again for accommodating my request by posting photos of your delicious, finished results.

I wish I could have me some collard greens right now. I am sure yours turned out good! Did you make cornbread with them, too? :grinwink:
 
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ThatJerseyGirl said:
@Chicoro -- I don't know how to multi-reply so to answer your other inquiry. @IDareT'sHair - I think a good growth and strengthening combo is Amla, Methi (fenugreek), Brahmi, Neem & Maka (Bhringraj).

I haven't had any buildup when I was on the shea butter because my hair stay moisturized so there was no issues there. I didn't have to apply it often throughout the week, so no issues with buildup. Also, you don't need that much because a little really does go a long way.

The double boiler method for me worked and my butters still came out fluffy and whipped. I guess because I let the butters harden in the fridge. The only reason why I did the DB method was for the purposes of mixing those powders.

I took a picture of the final result so that you could see the color and texture of the mixture. I should have taken a picture of the butters when they melted down, but I started cooking at 4:00 am so that is when I made my butters because I knew the process would be long. I didn't think to take pictures while I was making it. Hell, I was cleaning collard greens.....I will say that when I used the wooden skewers to stir the powder and the butters and oils, I looked at this as a infusion method because the mixture was warm, so it's infusing. When I put it in the refrigerator, it's still infusing. There is no grainy feel at all. Just pure goodness! My powders were purchased at an Indian grocery store here in Virginia. Norfolk, VA to be exact.

I will use this mixture in between my tracks and on my edges, although I never had an issue with my edges.

The Shea butter mix can be used in so many different ways instead of a leave in conditioner. For example, I would use the mixture as a deep conditioner by adding on of your favorite conditioner to a small amount of your shea mix, concentrating on your scalp, edges and ends. When you rinse your hair, it should be very moisturized, this way, you won't have to use too much when you style your hair.
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"The Shea butter mix can be used in so many different ways instead of a leave in conditioner. For example, I would use the mixture as a deep conditioner by adding one of your favorite conditioner to a small amount of your shea mix, concentrating on your scalp, edges and ends. When you rinse your hair, it should be very moisturized, this way, you won't have to use too much when you style your hair."

I like the idea of pulling double duty for one's shea mix. I had thought to add shea butter to my conditioners, but my idea was to use pure shea butter.

I didn't think about adding the already mixed down shea butter. Instead of going into my stash, I can dip out a little from my current mix and add it to my conditioners.

I make a rich DIY coconut conditioner, completely from scratch. Packing in a shea butter punch will be easy now. In addition, the shea butter mix should blend in beautifully with the coconut milk.

I'm looking forward to washing my hair and mixing down a shea butter blend with powders like @ThatJerseyGirl did and putting that same mix into my DIY conditioner. This is the first time my interest has been piqued to try to do this!

My shea mix is expanding. My mix is just absorbing everything in it's path, very much like, "The Blob".

My shea butter mix be like:

giphy.gif
 
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ElevatedEnergy said:
No shea build up over here! :toocool:

One tip I can give to the group is before you apply your cleanser, rinse your hair with warm water for a little longer than normal. Rinse and smooth. The warm water and the smoothing motion will get the bulk of the shea butter out.
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I didn't think any of us were getting any build up. It's nice to see that people are confirming this to be true! I have found this same process useful as well. Contrary to what that article stated about why to not use shea butter, it is far more water soluble than the average silicone-laden conditioner. My vote is for shea butter every time!
 
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Chicoro said:
I decided to ask the group if they got buildup because I saw this article yesterday:

7 REASONS WHY YOU NEED TO STOP USING COCONUT OIL & SHEA BUTTER ON YOUR HAIR

https://blackdoctor.org/470909/7-reasons-to-stop-using-coconut-oil-and-shea-butter-on-your-hair/

  1. They're heavy
  2. They lead to dry hair
  3. They cause frizz
  4. They do not moisturize the hair
  5. You're using way too much
  6. They're not water soluble
  7. They cause buildup
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Coconut oil can actually be drying, because of the lauric acid content if I remember well. I don't believe in the rest.
 
Chicoro said:
"The Shea butter mix can be used in so many different ways instead of a leave in conditioner. For example, I would use the mixture as a deep conditioner by adding one of your favorite conditioner to a small amount of your shea mix, concentrating on your scalp, edges and ends. When you rinse your hair, it should be very moisturized, this way, you won't have to use too much when you style your hair."

I like the idea of pulling double duty for one's shea mix. I had thought to add shea butter to my conditioners, but my idea was to use pure shea butter.

I didn't think about adding the already mixed down shea butter. Instead of going into my stash, I can dip out a little from my current mix and add it to my conditioners.

I make a rich DIY coconut conditioner, completely from scratch. Packing in a shea butter punch will be easy now. In addition, the shea butter mix should blend in beautifully with the coconut milk.

I'm looking forward to washing my hair and mixing down a shea butter blend with powders like @ThatJerseyGirl did and putting that same mix into my DIY conditioner. This is the first time my interest has been piqued to try to do this!

My shea mix is expanding. My mix is just absorbing everything in it's path, very much like, "The Blob".

My shea butter mix be like:

giphy.gif
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My, Lord! I am concerned about the person in the blob! *clutches imaginary pearls*
 
I say to each his own. I’ve been using Shea butter based products since my chop and I rarely ever clarify. Why? Stripping my hair on a regular basis leads to tangling, matting, and breakage. I have no issues with Shea butter leaving greasiness on my strands—infact I welcome it—that’s why I started using it in the first place.
 


How exciting!!!!

Hey all you Shea Sliders,

Hair Unicorns, Attention!

It's Day #1 in this brand-spanking New Year of 2018!!!!!!!

Any tips, mixes, Mixtresses,
successes, accomplishments, videos, links,
articles, challenges, set-backs, suggestions, questions,
worries, gratitude, product recommendations, processes,
formulations, something you've 'heard', something you know,
'aha' moments, questions, observations, shea nuts and anything else you
can think of are all welcome!

:clapping:Pictures are always welcome!:clap:
:grinwink::flahssssss::grin: :click:

We're in this together :circle: So let's help one another
for all things shea butter related.

Grow and Retain is the Name of the Game. Let's go!
​
 
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Chicoro said:
I decided to ask the group if they got buildup because I saw this article yesterday:

7 REASONS WHY YOU NEED TO STOP USING COCONUT OIL & SHEA BUTTER ON YOUR HAIR

https://blackdoctor.org/470909/7-reasons-to-stop-using-coconut-oil-and-shea-butter-on-your-hair/

  1. They're heavy
  2. They lead to dry hair
  3. They cause frizz
  4. They do not moisturize the hair
  5. You're using way too much
  6. They're not water soluble
  7. They cause buildup
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:rolleyes: Consider the source and check out the hair of the stylist ( Miss Aeleise) that doling out this advice. :look:

Sorry that my first post of the year has to be snarky. :lol:

Anyway, articles like that is one of the reasons I have stopped relying on so called professionals for my haircare. The whole time I was patronizing their salons, my hair never even reached shoulder length. Thank God for hairboards and hairforums. Real life women in these forums have revolutionazed the black haircare industry. it's no accident most of the long hair naturals I know are DIY naturals who don't depend on these professionals.

I just had to get this off my chest. I promise to be nice for the rest of the year. :babyb:
 
Saravana said:
:rolleyes: Consider the source and check out the hair of the stylist ( Miss Aeleise) that doling out this advice. :look:

Sorry that my first post of the year has to be snarky. :lol:

Anyway, articles like that is one of the reasons I have stopped relying on so called professionals for my haircare. The whole time I was patronizing their salons, my hair never even reached shoulder length. Thank God for hairboards and hairforums. Real life women in these forums have revolutionazed the black haircare industry. it's no accident most of the long hair naturals I know are DIY naturals who don't depend on these professionals.

I just had to get this off my chest. I promise to be nice for the rest of the year. :babyb:
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Thank you for the comment! I am glad to see that you feel comfortable to be yourself. There is nothing wrong with that.

I did consider the source and I did see her hair! I also reflected upon her analysis and conclusions. I looked at the vocabulary she used and the terminology as well. I compared her terminology to that of a professional and that of people who are considered laymen.

A huge part of what is going on here in this thread, and LHCF in general, is educating ourselves so that we can make decisions for ourselves, be autonomous and be successful. That is the power and the benefit of the collective.

Placing the article in the mix and having you all analyze it and determine its validity is good practice for the 'veterans' and it allows newbies, and folks less confident in their hair processes, to follow the train of thought and analysis as it unfolds. More importantly, there is a written, documented record for someone to go back and review. The only caveat in this case is that I didn't put the full article here. So, if that link is ever broken, the detailed content of the article will be lost. I think the 7 points I listed from the article are sufficient, though.

Thus, I think the article served its purpose well. It gave us an opportunity to affirm what we believe and understand. In addition, it illuminates how much knowledge and understanding that you have. Therefore, it's not a time to censor or criticize yourself. It's a time to celebrate because YOU ARE truly knowledgable and autonomous; thus, you are powerful!

@Saravana ,
My response is simply to say [after having written one of my standard book-long posts], "Congratulations, you know your stuff!"
 
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