Seventh Day adventist

good2uuuu said:
Yes I know SAm and Kimmie and Nicci! Nicci's son is my godson!!!!!

Is that why you look familiar? You actually do look like you could be related to Kimmie and Nicci.

I only know Sam. I don't know his sisters very well, if thats who you are referring too.My husband is attorney like Margo. We went to a Sothern Union attorney function 5 years ago and that's where we met them. They were very instrumental and the founding of our mission group. We have Sabbath lunch together often. When I renovated my investment property, Sam guided me through the process and gave me A LOT of help. I've met his parents though. SJ and my sons are good buds!

Once again, small world!!!
 
AJamericanDiva said:
Gurl, I feel as long as it isn't gaudy. My ears are pierced, but I did not pierce my daughter's. She sometimes says she wants hers pierced, but I discourage her. I wear a wedding band and engagement ring.

I can agree with that. I actually have more issue with folks and their fancy aht addicition. Some of those hats are sooooo gaudy!!!! If I showed up with a simple strand of pearls and some pearl studs, I would draw much less attention that those hats, which by the way are NOT cheap. But don't get me started!!! lol!
 
This is my understanding as well. I think a lot of people "like" to do it but don't "have" to do it.

good2uuuu said:
Now I always thought that if you have already been baptized then you could join the SDA church on profession of faith. I could be wrong though. I never asked dad about that one. If he wants to be baptized, than that wouldn't hurt anything.
 
SDA checking in!!! I go to Corona SDA in Corona Queens in New York. Corona is more on the old school end, but things are changing. Our pastor is quite young and he and his wife are right now preaching a series on issues facing men and women. It's been quite good so far. Anyway, even though Corona is not as lively as Kingsboro (which I love and visit on occasion), I grew up there so it's my home church and I love it. Music is a very important part of Corona's service always has been always will be, we have 6 active choirs.

It's so good to meet some Adventist women that care about their hair and general beauty, which I believe is biblical, just read about the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. She was gorgeous and took care of herself. She had a healthy hair of head, so our journey is very much in line with biblical teachings about women.

Anyway, as for EG White, I have had issues with some of her writings. My mother put it into perspective for me. She told me to remember the time in which Ellen was writing and to also remember that she was a woman writing at that time. Ellen however is very specific when she says that we should stay modern to the times in which we live in the way we dress and live our lives, but always keep God first. I do need to read more of her writings to better understand her though.

One of my issues as a young single SDA woman is that there don't seem to be very many young single SDA men that are spiritually minded, and that don't just play church, around for me to meet. My last boyfriend wasn't SDA. And the guy that I'm seeing now, I won't call him my boyfriend just yet since we are building a foundation for a relationship, used to be SDA but is now non-denominational. He is the most spiritually minded young man I've ever been with. It's frustrating because I know that we shouldn't be unequally yoked, but I sometimes feel that I am more unequally yoked with some SDA men who just play church but half the time they are there they are just checking women out and never read there bibles. Anyway that's my frustration, does anyone else feel that way?:confused:
 
natalied said:
I only know Sam. I don't know his sisters very well, if thats who you are referring too.My husband is attorney like Margo. We went to a Sothern Union attorney function 5 years ago and that's where we met them. They were very instrumental and the founding of our mission group. We have Sabbath lunch together often. When I renovated my investment property, Sam guided me through the process and gave me A LOT of help. I've met his parents though. SJ and my sons are good buds!

Once again, small world!!!

Ooops! My bad! When you said Holmes sisters I was thinking Grant....lol. Nicci's married name is Holmes.....lol Erase that! I don't know Sams sisters.
 
Can someone explain to me what SDA is? What do you all believe?
 
I totally understand! I wish you were here in Atlanta! I have 1 male cousin and 2 male friends who are SDA (not playing church, but grounded), single and searching. I know they get frustrated too.

I have friends in NY who say the same as you do. Where are the grounded single SDA men? I will keep you in prayer RabiaElaine! Have you looked at any of the online Adventist dating websites?:yep:

RabiaElaine said:
SDA checking in!!! I go to Corona SDA in Corona Queens in New York. Corona is more on the old school end, but things are changing. Our pastor is quite young and he and his wife are right now preaching a series on issues facing men and women. It's been quite good so far. Anyway, even though Corona is not as lively as Kingsboro (which I love and visit on occasion), I grew up there so it's my home church and I love it. Music is a very important part of Corona's service always has been always will be, we have 6 active choirs.

It's so good to meet some Adventist women that care about their hair and general beauty, which I believe is biblical, just read about the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. She was gorgeous and took care of herself. She had a healthy hair of head, so our journey is very much in line with biblical teachings about women.

Anyway, as for EG White, I have had issues with some of her writings. My mother put it into perspective for me. She told me to remember the time in which Ellen was writing and to also remember that she was a woman writing at that time. Ellen however is very specific when she says that we should stay modern to the times in which we live in the way we dress and live our lives, but always keep God first. I do need to read more of her writings to better understand her though.

One of my issues as a young single SDA woman is that there don't seem to be very many young single SDA men that are spiritually minded, and that don't just play church, around for me to meet. My last boyfriend wasn't SDA. And the guy that I'm seeing now, I won't call him my boyfriend just yet since we are building a foundation for a relationship, used to be SDA but is now non-denominational. He is the most spiritually minded young man I've ever been with. It's frustrating because I know that we shouldn't be unequally yoked, but I sometimes feel that I am more unequally yoked with some SDA men who just play church but half the time they are there they are just checking women out and never read there bibles. Anyway that's my frustration, does anyone else feel that way?:confused:
 
RabiaElaine said:
SDA checking in!!! I go to Corona SDA in Corona Queens in New York. Corona is more on the old school end, but things are changing. Our pastor is quite young and he and his wife are right now preaching a series on issues facing men and women. It's been quite good so far. Anyway, even though Corona is not as lively as Kingsboro (which I love and visit on occasion), I grew up there so it's my home church and I love it. Music is a very important part of Corona's service always has been always will be, we have 6 active choirs.

It's so good to meet some Adventist women that care about their hair and general beauty, which I believe is biblical, just read about the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. She was gorgeous and took care of herself. She had a healthy hair of head, so our journey is very much in line with biblical teachings about women.

Anyway, as for EG White, I have had issues with some of her writings. My mother put it into perspective for me. She told me to remember the time in which Ellen was writing and to also remember that she was a woman writing at that time. Ellen however is very specific when she says that we should stay modern to the times in which we live in the way we dress and live our lives, but always keep God first. I do need to read more of her writings to better understand her though.

One of my issues as a young single SDA woman is that there don't seem to be very many young single SDA men that are spiritually minded, and that don't just play church, around for me to meet. My last boyfriend wasn't SDA. And the guy that I'm seeing now, I won't call him my boyfriend just yet since we are building a foundation for a relationship, used to be SDA but is now non-denominational. He is the most spiritually minded young man I've ever been with. It's frustrating because I know that we shouldn't be unequally yoked, but I sometimes feel that I am more unequally yoked with some SDA men who just play church but half the time they are there they are just checking women out and never read there bibles. Anyway that's my frustration, does anyone else feel that way?:confused:

Corona?? I remember it well! is Lawrence Brown still there? The last time Iwas there was in the fall of '98. My husbands singing group, the Brothers of NAshville stopped by for a minute. We were there because of the Hoespedales' . Russell was part of the group then. I assume you know Carnetta Williams? I love what they did rennovating the church. I remember when, way back in the day.....lol.

I also want to add that you are not alone. I have a couple of friends in the same situtaion with the brothas of the church.
 
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Bublnbrnsuga said:
Can someone explain to me what SDA is? What do you all believe?

SDA stands for Seventh Day Adventist.

We believe in the following

1. The Holy Scriptures:

The Holy Scriptures, Old and New Testaments, are the written Word of God, given by divine inspiration through holy men of God who spoke and wrote as they were moved by the Holy Spirit. In this Word, God has committed to man the knowledge necessary for salvation. The Holy Scriptures are the infallible revelation of His will. They are the standard of character, the test of experience, the authoritative revealer of doctrines, and the trustworthy record of God's acts in history. (2 Peter 1:20, 21; 2 Tim. 3:16, 17; Ps. 119:105; Prov. 30:5, 6; Isa. 8:20; John 17:17; 1 Thess. 2:13; Heb. 4:12.)

2. The Trinity:

There is one God: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, a unity of three co-eternal Persons. God is immortal, all-powerful, all-knowing, above all, and ever present. He is infinite and beyond human comprehension, yet known through His self-revelation. He is forever worthy of worship, adoration, and service by the whole creation. (Deut. 6:4; Matt. 28:19; 2 Cor. 13:14; Eph. 4:4-6; 1 Peter 1:2; 1 Tim. 1:17; Rev. 14:7.)

3. The Father:

God the eternal Father is the Creator, Source, Sustainer, and Sovereign of all creation. He is just and holy, merciful and gracious, slow to anger, and abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. The qualities and powers exhibited in the Son and the Holy Spirit are also revelations of the Father. (Gen. 1:1; Rev. 4:11; 1 Cor. 15:28; John 3:16; 1 John 4:8; 1 Tim. 1:17; Ex. 34:6, 7; John 14:9.)

4. The Son:

God the eternal Son became incarnate in Jesus Christ. Through Him all things were created, the character of God is revealed, the salvation of humanity is accomplished, and the world is judged. Forever truly God, He became also truly man, Jesus the Christ. He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He lived and experienced temptation as a human being, but perfectly exemplified the righteousness and love of God. By His miracles He manifested God's power and was attested as God's promised Messiah. He suffered and died voluntarily on the cross for our sins and in our place, was raised from the dead, and ascended to minister in the heavenly sanctuary in our behalf. He will come again in glory for the final deliverance of His people and the restoration of all things. (John 1:1-3, 14; Col. 1:15-19; John 10:30; 14:9; Rom. 6:23; 2 Cor. 5:17-19; John 5:22; Luke 1:35; Phil. 2:5-11; Heb. 2:9-18; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4; Heb. 8:1, 2; John 14:1-3.)

5. The Holy Spirit:

God the eternal Spirit was active with the Father and the Son in Creation, incarnation, and redemption. He inspired the writers of Scripture. He filled Christ's life with power. He draws and convicts human beings; and those who respond He renews and transforms into the image of God. Sent by the Father and the Son to be always with His children, He extends spiritual gifts to the church, empowers it to bear witness to Christ, and in harmony with the Scriptures leads it into all truth. (Gen. 1:1, 2; Luke 1:35; 4:18; Acts 10:38; 2 Peter 1:21; 2 Cor. 3:18; Eph. 4:11, 12; Acts 1:8; John 14:16-18, 26; 15:26, 27; 16:7-13.)

6. Creation:

God is Creator of all things, and has revealed in Scripture the authentic account of His creative activity. In six days the Lord made "the heaven and the earth" and all living things upon the earth, and rested on the seventh day of that first week. Thus He established the Sabbath as a perpetual memorial of His completed creative work. The first man and woman were made in the image of God as the crowning work of Creation, given dominion over the world, and charged with responsibility to care for it. When the world was finished it was ``very good,'' declaring the glory of God. (Gen. 1; 2; Ex. 20:8-11; Ps. 19:1-6; 33:6, 9; 104; Heb. 11:3.)

7. The Nature of Man:

Man and woman were made in the image of God with individuality, the power and freedom to think and to do. Though created free beings, each is an indivisible unity of body, mind, and spirit, dependent upon God for life and breath and all else. When our first parents disobeyed God, they denied their dependence upon Him and fell from their high position under God. The image of God in them was marred and they became subject to death. Their descendants share this fallen nature and its consequences. They are born with weaknesses and tendencies to evil. But God in Christ reconciled the world to Himself and by His Spirit restores in penitent mortals the image of their Maker. Created for the glory of God, they are called to love Him and one another, and to care for their environment. (Gen. 1:26-28; 2:7; Ps. 8:4-8; Acts 17:24-28; Gen. 3; Ps. 51:5; Rom. 5:12-17; 2 Cor. 5:19, 20; Ps. 51:10; 1 John 4:7, 8, 11, 20; Gen. 2:15.)

8. The Great Controversy:

All humanity is now involved in a great controversy between Christ and Satan regarding the character of God, His law, and His sovereignty over the universe. This conflict originated in heaven when a created being, endowed with freedom of choice, in self-exaltation became Satan, God's adversary, and led into rebellion a portion of the angels. He introduced the spirit of rebellion into this world when he led Adam and Eve into sin. This human sin resulted in the distortion of the image of God in humanity, the disordering of the created world, and its eventual devastation at the time of the worldwide flood. Observed by the whole creation, this world became the arena of the universal conflict, out of which the God of love will ultimately be vindicated. To assist His people in this controversy, Christ sends the Holy Spirit and the loyal angels to guide, protect, and sustain them in the way of salvation. (Rev. 12:4-9; Isa. 14:12-14; Eze. 28:12-18; Gen. 3; Rom. 1:19-32; 5:12-21; 8:19-22; Gen. 6-8; 2 Peter 3:6; 1 Cor. 4:9; Heb. 1:14.)

9. The Life, Death, and Resurrection of Christ:

In Christ's life of perfect obedience to God's will, His suffering, death, and resurrection, God provided the only means of atonement for human sin, so that those who by faith accept this atonement may have eternal life, and the whole creation may better understand the infinite and holy love of the Creator. This perfect atonement vindicates the righteousness of God's law and the graciousness of His character; for it both condemns our sin and provides for our forgiveness. The death of Christ is substitutionary and expiatory, reconciling and transforming. The resurrection of Christ proclaims God's triumph over the forces of evil, and for those who accept the atonement assures their final victory over sin and death. It declares the Lordship of Jesus Christ, before whom every knee in heaven and on earth will bow. (John 3:16; Isa. 53; 1 Peter 2:21, 22; 1 Cor. 15:3, 4, 20-22; 2 Cor. 5:14, 15, 19-21; Rom. 1:4; 3:25; 4:25; 8:3, 4; 1 John 2:2; 4:10; Col. 2:15; Phil. 2:6-11.)

10. The Experience of Salvation:

In infinite love and mercy God made Christ, who knew no sin, to be sin for us, so that in Him we might be made the righteousness of God. Led by the Holy Spirit we sense our need, acknowledge our sinfulness, repent of our transgressions, and exercise faith in Jesus as Lord and Christ, as Substitute and Example. This faith which receives salvation comes through the divine power of the Word and is the gift of God's grace. Through Christ we are justified, adopted as God's sons and daughters, and delivered from the lordship of sin. Through the Spirit we are born again and sanctified; the Spirit renews our minds, writes God's law of love in our hearts, and we are given the power to live a holy life. Abiding in Him we become partakers of the divine nature and have the assurance of salvation now and in the judgment. (2 Cor. 5:17-21; John 3:16; Gal. 1:4; 4:4-7; Titus 3:3-7; John 16:8; Gal. 3:13, 14; 1 Peter 2:21, 22; Rom. 10:17; Luke 17:5; Mark 9:23, 24; Eph. 2:5-10; Rom. 3:21-26; Col. 1:13, 14; Rom. 8:14-17; Gal. 3:26; John 3:3-8; 1 Peter 1:23; Rom. 12:2; Heb. 8:7-12; Eze. 36:25-27; 2 Peter 1:3, 4; Rom. 8:1-4; 5:6-10.)


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good2uuuu said:
AJamericanDiva said:
Gurl, I feel as long as it isn't gaudy. My ears are pierced, but I did not pierce my daughter's. She sometimes says she wants hers pierced, but I discourage her. I wear a wedding band and engagement ring.

I can agree with that. I actually have more issue with folks and their fancy aht addicition. Some of those hats are sooooo gaudy!!!! If I showed up with a simple strand of pearls and some pearl studs, I would draw much less attention that those hats, which by the way are NOT cheap. But don't get me started!!! lol!

See, that's my argument with my uncle... what if it's expensive cars, clothing, watches, etc? Where exactly is the line drawn? So if I come in my studs, yet another is wearing Manolo Blahnik shoes, I will be the one to be looked down upon? I know God thinks it's OK to enjoy the fruits of your labor... as long as you are using some of those funds to further the ministry, giving appropriate tithe and offering.
 
11. The Church:

The church is the community of believers who confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour. In continuity with the people of God in Old Testament times, we are called out from the world; and we join together for worship, for fellowship, for instruction in the Word, for the celebration of the Lord's Supper, for service to all mankind, and for the worldwide proclamation of the gospel. The church derives its authority from Christ, who is the incarnate Word, and from the Scriptures, which are the written Word. The church is God's family; adopted by Him as children, its members live on the basis of the new covenant. The church is the body of Christ, a community of faith of which Christ Himself is the Head. The church is the bride for whom Christ died that He might sanctify and cleanse her. At His return in triumph, He will present her to Himself a glorious church, the faithful of all the ages, the purchase of His blood, not having spot or wrinkle, but holy and without blemish. (Gen. 12:3; Acts 7:38; Eph. 4:11-15; 3:8-11; Matt. 28:19, 20; 16:13-20; 18:18; Eph. 2:19-22; 1:22, 23; 5:23-27; Col. 1:17, 18.)

12. The Remnant and Its Mission:

The universal church is composed of all who truly believe in Christ, but in the last days, a time of widespread apostasy, a remnant has been called out to keep the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus. This remnant announces the arrival of the judgment hour, proclaims salvation through Christ, and heralds the approach of His second advent. This proclamation is symbolized by the three angels of Revelation 14; it coincides with the work of judgment in heaven and results in a work of repentance and reform on earth. Every believer is called to have a personal part in this worldwide witness. (Rev. 12:17; 14:6-12; 18:1-4; 2 Cor. 5:10; Jude 3, 14; 1 Peter 1:16-19; 2 Peter 3:10-14; Rev. 21:1-14.)

13. Unity in the Body of Christ:

The church is one body with many members, called from every nation, kindred, tongue, and people. In Christ we are a new creation; distinctions of race, culture, learning, and nationality, and differences between high and low, rich and poor, male and female, must not be divisive among us. We are all equal in Christ, who by one Spirit has bonded us into one fellowship with Him and with one another; we are to serve and be served without partiality or reservation. Through the revelation of Jesus Christ in the Scriptures we share the same faith and hope, and reach out in one witness to all. This unity has its source in the oneness of the triune God, who has adopted us as His children. (Rom. 12:4, 5; 1 Cor. 12:12-14; Matt. 28:19, 20; Ps. 133:1; 2 Cor. 5:16, 17; Acts 17:26, 27; Gal. 3:27, 29; Col. 3:10-15; Eph. 4:14-16; 4:1-6; John 17:20-23.)

14. Baptism:

By baptism we confess our faith in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, and testify of our death to sin and of our purpose to walk in newness of life. Thus we acknowledge Christ as Lord and Saviour, become His people, and are received as members by His church. Baptism is a symbol of our union with Christ, the forgiveness of our sins, and our reception of the Holy Spirit. It is by immersion in water and is contingent on an affirmation of faith in Jesus and evidence of repentance of sin. It follows instruction in the Holy Scriptures and acceptance of their teachings. (Rom. 6:1-6; Col. 2:12, 13; Acts 16:30-33; 22:16; 2:38; Matt. 28:19, 20.)

15. The Lord's Supper:

The Lord's Supper is a participation in the emblems of the body and blood of Jesus as an expression of faith in Him, our Lord and Saviour. In this experience of communion Christ is present to meet and strengthen His people. As we partake, we joyfully proclaim the Lord's death until He comes again. Preparation for the Supper includes self-examination, repentance, and confession. The Master ordained the service of foot washing to signify renewed cleansing, to express a willingness to serve one another in Christlike humility, and to unite our hearts in love. The communion service is open to all believing Christians. (1 Cor. 10:16, 17; 11:23-30; Matt. 26:17-30; Rev. 3:20; John 6:48-63; 13:1-17.)

16. Spiritual Gifts and Ministries:

God bestows upon all members of His church in every age spiritual gifts which each member is to employ in loving ministry for the common good of the church and of humanity. Given by the agency of the Holy Spirit, who apportions to each member as He wills, the gifts provide all abilities and ministries needed by the church to fulfill its divinely ordained functions. According to the Scriptures, these gifts include such ministries as faith, healing, prophecy, proclamation, teaching, administration, reconciliation, compassion, and self-sacrificing service and charity for the help and encouragement of people. Some members are called of God and endowed by the Spirit for functions recognized by the church in pastoral, evangelistic, apostolic, and teaching ministries particularly needed to equip the members for service, to build up the church to spiritual maturity, and to foster unity of the faith and knowledge of God. When members employ these spiritual gifts as faithful stewards of God's varied grace, the church is protected from the destructive influence of false doctrine, grows with a growth that is from God, and is built up in faith and love. (Rom. 12:4-8; 1 Cor. 12:9-11, 27, 28; Eph. 4:8, 11-16; Acts 6:1-7; 1 Tim. 3:1-13; 1 Peter 4:10, 11.)

17. The Gift of Prophecy:

One of the gifts of the Holy Spirit is prophecy. This gift is an identifying mark of the remnant church and was manifested in the ministry of Ellen. G. White . As the Lord's messenger, her writings are a continuing and authoritative source of truth which provide for the church comfort, guidance, instruction, and correction. They also make clear that the Bible is the standard by which all teaching and experience must be tested. (Joel 2:28, 29; Acts 2:14-21; Heb. 1:1-3; Rev. 12:17; 19:10.)

18. The Law of God:

The great principles of God's law are embodied in the Ten Commandments and exemplified in the life of Christ. They express God's love, will, and purposes concerning human conduct and relationships and are binding upon all people in every age. These precepts are the basis of God's covenant with His people and the standard in God's judgment. Through the agency of the Holy Spirit they point out sin and awaken a sense of need for a Saviour. Salvation is all of grace and not of works, but its fruitage is obedience to the Commandments. This obedience develops Christian character and results in a sense of well-being. It is an evidence of our love for the Lord and our concern for our fellow men. The obedience of faith demonstrates the power of Christ to transform lives, and therefore strengthens Christian witness. (Ex. 20:1-17; Ps. 40:7, 8; Matt. 22:36-40; Deut. 28:1-14; Matt. 5:17-20; Heb. 8:8-10; John 15:7-10; Eph. 2:8-10; 1 John 5:3; Rom. 8:3, 4; Ps. 19:7-14.)

19. The Sabbath:

The beneficent Creator, after the six days of Creation, rested on the seventh day and instituted the Sabbath for all people as a memorial of Creation. The fourth commandment of God's unchangeable law requires the observance of this seventh-day Sabbath as the day of rest, worship, and ministry in harmony with the teaching and practice of Jesus, the Lord of the Sabbath. The Sabbath is a day of delightful communion with God and one another. It is a symbol of our redemption in Christ, a sign of our sanctification, a token of our allegiance, and a foretaste of our eternal future in God's kingdom. The Sabbath is God's perpetual sign of His eternal covenant between Him and His people. Joyful observance of this holy time from evening to evening, sunset to sunset, is a celebration of God's creative and redemptive acts. (Gen. 2:1-3; Ex. 20:8-11; Luke 4:16; Isa. 56:5, 6; 58:13, 14; Matt. 12:1-12; Ex. 31:13-17; Eze. 20:12, 20; Deut. 5:12-15; Heb. 4:1-11; Lev. 23:32; Mark 1:32.)

20. Stewardship:

We are God's stewards, entrusted by Him with time and opportunities, abilities and possessions, and the blessings of the earth and its resources. We are responsible to Him for their proper use. We acknowledge God's ownership by faithful service to Him and our fellow men, and by returning tithes and giving offerings for the proclamation of His gospel and the support and growth of His church. Stewardship is a privilege given to us by God for nurture in love and the victory over selfishness and covetousness. The steward rejoices in the blessings that come to others as a result of his faithfulness. (Gen. 1:26-28; 2:15; 1 Chron. 29:14; Haggai 1:3-11; Mal. 3:8-12; 1 Cor. 9:9-14; Matt. 23:23; 2 Cor. 8:1-15; Rom. 15:26, 27.)



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21. Christian Behavior:

We are called to be a godly people who think, feel, and act in harmony with the principles of heaven. For the Spirit to recreate in us the character of our Lord we involve ourselves only in those things which will produce Christlike purity, health, and joy in our lives. This means that our amusement and entertainment should meet the highest standards of Christian taste and beauty. While recognizing cultural differences, our dress is to be simple, modest, and neat, befitting those whose true beauty does not consist of outward adornment but in the imperishable ornament of a gentle and quiet spirit. It also means that because our bodies are the temples of the Holy Spirit, we are to care for them intelligently. Along with adequate exercise and rest, we are to adopt the most healthful diet possible and abstain from the unclean foods identified in the Scriptures. Since alcoholic beverages, tobacco, and the irresponsible use of drugs and narcotics are harmful to our bodies, we are to abstain from them as well. Instead, we are to engage in whatever brings our thoughts and bodies into the discipline of Christ, who desires our wholesomeness, joy, and goodness. (Rom. 12:1, 2; 1 John 2:6; Eph. 5:1-21; Phil. 4:8; 2 Cor. 10:5; 6:14-7:1; 1 Peter 3:1-4; 1 Cor. 6:19, 20; 10:31; Lev. 11:1-47; 3 John 2.)

22. Marriage and the Family:

Marriage was divinely established in Eden and affirmed by Jesus to be a lifelong union between a man and a woman in loving companionship. For the Christian a marriage commitment is to God as well as to the spouse, and should be entered into only between partners who share a common faith. Mutual love, honor, respect, and responsibility are the fabric of this relationship, which is to reflect the love, sanctity, closeness, and permanence of the relationship between Christ and His church. Regarding divorce, Jesus taught that the person who divorces a spouse, except for fornication, and marries another, commits adultery. Although some family relationships may fall short of the ideal, marriage partners who fully commit themselves to each other in Christ may achieve loving unity through the guidance of the Spirit and the nurture of the church. God blesses the family and intends that its members shall assist each other toward complete maturity. Parents are to bring up their children to love and obey the Lord. By their example and their words they are to teach them that Christ is a loving disciplinarian, ever tender and caring, who wants them to become members of His body, the family of God. Increasing family closeness is one of the earmarks of the final gospel message. (Gen. 2:18-25; Matt. 19:3-9; John 2:1-11; 2 Cor. 6:14; Eph. 5:21-33; Matt. 5:31, 32; Mark 10:11, 12; Luke 16:18; 1 Cor. 7:10, 11; Ex. 20:12; Eph. 6:1-4; Deut. 6:5-9; Prov. 22:6; Mal. 4:5, 6.)

23. Christ's Ministry in the Heavenly Sanctuary:

There is a sanctuary in heaven, the true tabernacle which the Lord set up and not man. In it Christ ministers on our behalf, making available to believers the benefits of His atoning sacrifice offered once for all on the cross. He was inaugurated as our great High Priest and began His intercessory ministry at the time of His ascension. In 1844, at the end of the prophetic period of 2300 days, He entered the second and last phase of His atoning ministry. It is a work of investigative judgment which is part of the ultimate disposition of all sin, typified by the cleansing of the ancient Hebrew sanctuary on the Day of Atonement. In that typical service the sanctuary was cleansed with the blood of animal sacrifices, but the heavenly things are purified with the perfect sacrifice of the blood of Jesus. The investigative judgment reveals to heavenly intelligences who among the dead are asleep in Christ and therefore, in Him, are deemed worthy to have part in the first resurrection. It also makes manifest who among the living are abiding in Christ, keeping the commandments of God and the faith of Jesus, and in Him, therefore, are ready for translation into His everlasting kingdom. This judgment vindicates the justice of God in saving those who believe in Jesus. It declares that those who have remained loyal to God shall receive the kingdom. The completion of this ministry of Christ will mark the close of human probation before the Second Advent. (Heb. 8:1-5; 4:14-16; 9:11-28; 10:19-22; 1:3; 2:16, 17; Dan. 7:9-27; 8:13, 14; 9:24-27; Num. 14:34; Eze. 4:6; Lev. 16; Rev. 14:6, 7; 20:12; 14:12; 22:12.)

24. The Second Coming of Christ:

The second coming of Christ is the blessed hope of the church, the grand climax of the gospel. The Saviour's coming will be literal, personal, visible, and worldwide. When He returns, the righteous dead will be resurrected, and together with the righteous living will be glorified and taken to heaven, but the unrighteous will die. The almost complete fulfillment of most lines of prophecy, together with the present condition of the world, indicates that Christ's coming is imminent. The time of that event has not been revealed, and we are therefore exhorted to be ready at all times. (Titus 2:13; Heb. 9:28; John 14:1-3; Acts 1:9-11; Matt. 24:14; Rev. 1:7; Matt. 24:43, 44; 1 Thess. 4:13-18; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 2 Thess. 1:7-10; 2:8; Rev. 14:14-20; 19:11-21; Matt. 24; Mark 13; Luke 21; 2 Tim. 3:1-5; 1 Thess. 5:1-6.)

25. Death and Resurrection:

The wages of sin is death. But God, who alone is immortal, will grant eternal life to His redeemed. Until that day death is an unconscious state for all people. When Christ, who is our life, appears, the resurrected righteous and the living righteous will be glorified and caught up to meet their Lord. The second resurrection, the resurrection of the unrighteous, will take place a thousand years later. (Rom. 6:23; 1 Tim. 6:15, 16; Eccl. 9:5, 6; Ps. 146:3, 4; John 11:11-14; Col. 3:4; 1 Cor. 15:51-54; 1 Thess. 4:13-17; John 5:28, 29; Rev. 20:1-10.)

26. The Millennium and the End of Sin:

The millennium is the thousand-year reign of Christ with His saints in heaven between the first and second resurrections. During this time the wicked dead will be judged; the earth will be utterly desolate, without living human inhabitants, but occupied by Satan and his angels. At its close Christ with His saints and the Holy City will descend from heaven to earth. The unrighteous dead will then be resurrected, and with Satan and his angels will surround the city; but fire from God will consume them and cleanse the earth. The universe will thus be freed of sin and sinners forever. (Rev. 20; 1 Cor. 6:2, 3; Jer. 4:23-26; Rev. 21:1-5; Mal. 4:1; Eze. 28:18, 19.)

27. The New Earth:

On the new earth, in which righteousness dwells, God will provide an eternal home for the redeemed and a perfect environment for everlasting life, love, joy, and learning in His presence. For here God Himself will dwell with His people, and suffering and death will have passed away. The great controversy will be ended, and sin will be no more. All things, animate and inanimate, will declare that God is love; and He shall reign forever. Amen. (2 Peter 3:13; Isa. 35; 65:17-25; Matt. 5:5; Rev. 21:1-7; 22:1-5; 11:15.)



ok.......phew....done!
 
Natalie, where did you get the ready reference from for what we belive? I need to download it to my files in that precise manner. Please tell me you didn't type it all out. I'm too lazy............
 
ITA. ANYTHING can be an idol!

AJamericanDiva said:
good2uuuu said:
See, that's my argument with my uncle... what if it's expensive cars, clothing, watches, etc? Where exactly is the line drawn? So if I come in my studs, yet another is wearing Manolo Blahnik shoes, I will be the one to be looked down upon? I know God thinks it's OK to enjoy the fruits of your labor... as long as you are using some of those funds to further the ministry, giving appropriate tithe and offering.
 
RabiaElaine said:
SDA checking in!!! I go to Corona SDA in Corona Queens in New York. Corona is more on the old school end, but things are changing. Our pastor is quite young and he and his wife are right now preaching a series on issues facing men and women. It's been quite good so far. Anyway, even though Corona is not as lively as Kingsboro (which I love and visit on occasion), I grew up there so it's my home church and I love it. Music is a very important part of Corona's service always has been always will be, we have 6 active choirs.

It's so good to meet some Adventist women that care about their hair and general beauty, which I believe is biblical, just read about the virtuous woman in Proverbs 31. She was gorgeous and took care of herself. She had a healthy hair of head, so our journey is very much in line with biblical teachings about women.

Anyway, as for EG White, I have had issues with some of her writings. My mother put it into perspective for me. She told me to remember the time in which Ellen was writing and to also remember that she was a woman writing at that time. Ellen however is very specific when she says that we should stay modern to the times in which we live in the way we dress and live our lives, but always keep God first. I do need to read more of her writings to better understand her though.

One of my issues as a young single SDA woman is that there don't seem to be very many young single SDA men that are spiritually minded, and that don't just play church, around for me to meet. My last boyfriend wasn't SDA. And the guy that I'm seeing now, I won't call him my boyfriend just yet since we are building a foundation for a relationship, used to be SDA but is now non-denominational. He is the most spiritually minded young man I've ever been with. It's frustrating because I know that we shouldn't be unequally yoked, but I sometimes feel that I am more unequally yoked with some SDA men who just play church but half the time they are there they are just checking women out and never read there bibles. Anyway that's my frustration, does anyone else feel that way?:confused:

See, that's why after counselling and seeing how spiritual minded my hubby was my uncle was able to marry us. When we took the compatability test, he was too shocked that we were so compatable.... opposites.. me extrovert, outgoing, him laid back... but the common thread is that we both loved the Lord. I've dated Adventists and non-Adventists, so I've seen both of the spectrums. When I first told my hubby that they may not wed us as we're "unequally yoked" he was like, "WHAT? We both believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour". That ended that. Furthermore, he goes to church with me. He used to eat unclean foods, but no longer does. We don't have any problems. I couldn't have married a better man. That's just my situation. ... but I do know about the single SDA scene. It can be a tad depressing.
 
natalied said:
I totally understand! I wish you were here in Atlanta! I have 1 male cousin and 2 male friends who are SDA (not playing church, but grounded), single and searching. I know they get frustrated too.

I have friends in NY who say the same as you do. Where are the grounded single SDA men? I will keep you in prayer RabiaElaine! Have you looked at any of the online Adventist dating websites?:yep:

I heard that there are a lot of grounded men in Atlanta...I have some friends (married) that moved down there. I have not looked at any but a woman at my church has used them and she had a boyfriend from one of them for a while but they broke up, she's dating someone else now, I don't know where they met.

I'm not sure if I want to try the websites...I feel I should give it more time. Besides I am starting to become of the belief that the man is supposed to choose you (I just finished reading on of Michelle McKinney Hammond books...she's great), so I'm not sure how I feel about seeking them out. But maybe I could do it just to expand my scope of friends anyway (sigh).
 
good2uuuu said:
Corona?? I remember it well! is Lawrence Brown still there? The last time Iwas there was in the fall of '98. My husbands singing group, the Brothers of NAshville stopped by for a minute. We were there because of the Hoespedales' . Russell was part of the group then. I assume you know Carnetta Williams? I love what they did rennovating the church. I remember when, way back in the day.....lol.

I also want to add that you are not alone. I have a couple of friends in the same situtaion with the brothas of the church.

Pastor Brown no longer pastors our church...he pastors Lebanon now I believe. He is still very much involved at our church because his daughter still is, she's in our Pathfinder club and participates in all of our children/youth/church events. Corona's a weird church that way, pastor's kids always remain at Corona despite where their father's are moved to.

I know the Hospedales very well. Caranetta, i know very well for many years, she still attends Corona. Yes the church rennovated itself a while back, it does look good...we hope to get a bigger church though, we are starting to bust at the seams.
 
I teach primary two Sabbaths a month. But the other Sabbaths, there is always something else I have to do so I don't attend adult class regularly. My husband teaches adult and it peeves him when I'm not in his class if I'm not teaching the kids:lol: I don't prepare my adult lesson.:spank: He has threatens to call on me when I come.

I did go a couple of weeks ago and do you know he had the NERVE to call on me even though he KNEW I didn't prepare! Good thing I'm a quick thinking sista and was ablet to answer:grin:

good2uuuu said:
Well duh! I spend most of my time on the Little Friend site for the kids.....lol. I can't tell you the last time I actually went to Sabbath School for myself! Thanks for the link!
 
RabiaElaine said:
Pastor Brown no longer pastors our church...he pastors Lebanon now I believe. He is still very much involved at our church because his daughter still is, she's in our Pathfinder club and participates in all of our children/youth/church events. Corona's a weird church that way, pastor's kids always remain at Corona despite where their father's are moved to.

I know the Hospedales very well. Caranetta, i know very well for many years, she still attends Corona. Yes the church rennovated itself a while back, it does look good...we hope to get a bigger church though, we are starting to bust at the seams.

good1 Ya'll were in there pretty tight the last time I was there. Yep, I know Lawrence from way back, though he has a few years on me. Caranetta and I were at Linden to gehter in elementary school although she is a year ahead of me. We were at OC at the same time also. I so miss NEC pathfinders. I never had the chance to be in a Pathfinder due to having to be at a different church each week (dad had to speak at different churches each week) and my parents schedule. I just always loved watching the enthusiasm and order. I really want my kids involved in pathfinders, but they don't really have any up here, and the club that does exist starts at 5th grade. I really wanted my kids to be Eager Beavers and Adventurers. I pray that we will end up where the Pathfinders are alive and well.
 
I don't see it as you necessarily seeking them out. You put your profile up and wait for them to contact you.

It's good to meet people! That's what I tell my cousin. Just get out there and meet new people!

Humm.......maybe I could put the two of you in contact? I'll send you a PM.

RabiaElaine said:
I heard that there are a lot of grounded men in Atlanta...I have some friends (married) that moved down there. I have not looked at any but a woman at my church has used them and she had a boyfriend from one of them for a while but they broke up, she's dating someone else now, I don't know where they met.

I'm not sure if I want to try the websites...I feel I should give it more time. Besides I am starting to become of the belief that the man is supposed to choose you (I just finished reading on of Michelle McKinney Hammond books...she's great), so I'm not sure how I feel about seeking them out. But maybe I could do it just to expand my scope of friends anyway (sigh).
 
AJamericanDiva said:
See, that's why after counselling and seeing how spiritual minded my hubby was my uncle was able to marry us. When we took the compatability test, he was too shocked that we were so compatable.... opposites.. me extrovert, outgoing, him laid back... but the common thread is that we both loved the Lord. I've dated Adventists and non-Adventists, so I've seen both of the spectrums. When I first told my hubby that they may not wed us as we're "unequally yoked" he was like, "WHAT? We both believe in the Lord Jesus Christ as our personal Saviour". That ended that. Furthermore, he goes to church with me. He used to eat unclean foods, but no longer does. We don't have any problems. I couldn't have married a better man. That's just my situation. ... but I do know about the single SDA scene. It can be a tad depressing.

Tad depressing is right. I went and visited the non-denominational church that the guy I'm seeing attends, the young men are are so 'Out there for the Lord'. That's the only way I can put it. It was strange for me to see a guy who wasn't singing, or who wasn't preaching just praising God and thanking him for all that he's done in his life, and it was real. I'm glad that your husband is deciding to change his lifestyle for himself...he will be healthier that way. If he does baptize Adventist at some point, it's very good that it won't be because you pressured him too. I know some women who have done that, it has backfired on them big time. I'm glad that you found that right man for you AJD. You go girl ;) .

I don't know what will happen with this guy I'm seeing. We actually had a very deep discussion about where we are going with this yesterday. We've decided that we are building a foundation for a relationship at this point (we've been seeing each other on and off for about 8 months now, we've been steadily on for about 5 months now). We don't want to just attach a label to our relationship just yet just because we've been seeing each other for some time now, at first I wanted to but now I don't that's pointless if there is no foundation. We both have stuff to still learn about each other before we enter into a serious relationship. We also are seeking the Lord regarding this so that we make the best decision. My parents are going to freak at some point if we do enter a serious relationship because he's not SDA, and I need to decide if I can handle that. We both stated that while we are not attaching a label to the relationship, that there is no one else in the picture on either side. Is this stupid, help me out?
 
You know, I'm glad this thread was started. I hope we can keep it going. At first I wasn't going to participate in this particular forum because I felt that it excluded those who are not Christians but have other spiritual beliefs, but, I need this particular thread because being Black and SDA in Minnesota is no joke. I often feel like I'm loosing my spritiual edge due to the lack of fellowship that I am use to. It's really wonderful to hear about the happenings in other churches, especailly NY and Atl, since I know folks from both places and can relate. This is good.
 
good2uuuu said:
good1 Ya'll were in there pretty tight the last time I was there. Yep, I know Lawrence from way back, though he has a few years on me. Caranetta and I were at Linden to gehter in elementary school although she is a year ahead of me. We were at OC at the same time also. I so miss NEC pathfinders. I never had the chance to be in a Pathfinder due to having to be at a different church each week (dad had to speak at different churches each week) and my parents schedule. I just always loved watching the enthusiasm and order. I really want my kids involved in pathfinders, but they don't really have any up here, and the club that does exist starts at 5th grade. I really wanted my kids to be Eager Beavers and Adventurers. I pray that we will end up where the Pathfinders are alive and well.

Maybe you should start up your own Adventure's club with some other parents. That's how they get started, because there is a need for them. I'm sure you are not the only one. You should really think about it. I think the Adventurer/Pathfinder Club is excellent. I learned a lot of life skills there that translated to school, then college, then the workforce. I encourage all parents to put their kids into Pathfinders. It's not perfect but trust me it's still well worth it in the end for your kids.
 
mohair said:
Hi All,

I am SDA also. I attend Shiloh in Smyrna, GA (suburb of ATL).

Hi! You know, I ahve been racking my brain to remember which church my cousin got married in and I believe it was Shiloh. She got married in October '02. I assume this is where her memebership is also.
 
natalied said:
I don't see it as you necessarily seeking them out. You put your profile up and wait for them to contact you.

It's good to meet people! That's what I tell my cousin. Just get out there and meet new people!

Humm.......maybe I could put the two of you in contact? I'll send you a PM.

That's true I need to have a larger group of friends even both men and women.
 
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