Scared Sh!tless

deltagyrl

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I have been seeing a man who is calling me out on ALL of my ish. I have never experienced this before. Usually I'm the rational one, the logical one, the honest one, the centered one, the straightforward one, the real one. I'm noticing that all of my "issues" have bubbled to the surface and it is freaking me OUT. I feel exposed. Naked, even.

I know this is good for me because I need to grow but everything on the inside is screaming run, run, run.

Is this normal? What do I do? How do I get past this?

Zaynab, hopeful- I'd like to hear what you think.
 
I have been seeing a man who is calling me out on ALL of my ish. I have never experienced this before. Usually I'm the rational one, the logical one, the honest one, the centered one, the straightforward one, the real one. I'm noticing that all of my "issues" have bubbled to the surface and it is freaking me OUT. I feel exposed. Naked, even.

I know this is good for me because I need to grow but everything on the inside is screaming run, run, run.

Is this normal? What do I do? How do I get past this?

Zaynab, hopeful- I'd like to hear what you think.

Is this the Sagitarrius?:look:
 
Well personally I kinda like that :look:

That's what relationships are for. To bring all of your issues out. I was reading about it in this book that I have, I will post excerpts from it later.

You are very lucky to have this happen to you
 
I think Zayna should write a book. She has now become LHCF resident relationship guru.
 
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Well personally I kinda like that :look:

That's what relationships are for. To bring all of your issues out. I was reading about it in this book that I have, I will post excerpts from it later.

You are very lucky to have this happen to you

It is uncomfortable and I don't like it. :ohwell:
I'm realizing that this is the first time that the fixing has been about me. Either the other guys didn't notice, didn't care or were so jacked up that I was focused on fixing them. Or I didn't respect them enough to care what they thought.

I don't know. He just seems to be able to read me like a book. I am officially unnerved.
 
What exactly is he calling you out on and how is he doing it?

Is he trying to help you grow or trying to change you into the person that he thinks you should be?
 
What exactly is he calling you out on and how is he doing it?

Is he trying to help you grow or trying to change you into the person that he thinks you should be?

At first I thought he was trying to change me into who he thought I should be. Then I was offended because he's so blunt. Then once I calmed down and thought about what he was saying I realized that he was telling the truth about things I was/am doing within the relationship to get my way or manipulate things or avoid issues.
His communication style is much more direct than mine and that has taken some getting used to. I don't think I've ever met someone more forward. I think that he points things out so that I can see what I'm doing and to stop myself from self sabotaging.
I'm not saying that he doesn't have his own issues (because he does) but I've just never met someone who could read mine so plainly before.
 
Depends on the spirit in which it's done. I dated a dude like this and it was NOT done with the highest intent in mind. Time will tell motivation.
 
If he is not doing it in a constructive way then run. And run for your life! It is wonderful when people can tell us about how they perceive us. As long as he does not try to knock you down a notch and is saying it kindly, then learn from it and do better. :)
 
If he is not doing it in a constructive way then run. And run for your life! It is wonderful when people can tell us about how they perceive us. As long as he does not try to knock you down a notch and is saying it kindly, then learn from it and do better. :)

Amen! Constructive, supportive, loving way.
 
If he is not doing it in a constructive way then run. And run for your life! It is wonderful when people can tell us about how they perceive us. As long as he does not try to knock you down a notch and is saying it kindly, then learn from it and do better. :)

I hear you. Hell, I feel you. However this goes I am learning ALOT about me.
 
I think I need more details, examples, but based on what you've written so far I feel uncomfortable. Is he treating you like you are his subject or patient? Is he direct or is he rude and mean-spirited? Is the pointing out so often to the point that you feel on-guard or insecure? Growing together and one person constantly criticizing the other are different things. Again, I think I need more details.
 
I think I need more details, examples, but based on what you've written so far I feel uncomfortable. Is he treating you like you are his subject or patient? Is he direct or is he rude and mean-spirited? Is the pointing out so often to the point that you feel on-guard or insecure? Growing together and one person constantly criticizing the other are different things. Again, I think I need more details.

I'm still learning him but I will say that he does not really have a filter. Whatever he is thinking, he is gonna say. Is that rude? Insensitive? Tactless? Maybe. Mean spirited? I don't feel like it is. Is he trying to pick me apart to make me insecure? I sure hope not.
I'm gonna talk w/ him more about his reasoning behind pointing things out and see what he says.
I'm not so much bothered by the pointing out as I am by the accuracy of what he's saying. I'm a bit of a saboteur and didn't realize it.
 
Owning up to the dark side of your personality is crucial to forming a healthy relationship. Some psychologists believe that when we are in a relationship, the other person acts as our mirror (projection), so the person we’re really in relationship with is ourselves.
All of our relationships are fields through which we work through personal issues. As Harville Hendrix tells us, we are in relationships to heal. This means that the problems in a relationship have less to do with him and whether you were meant to be, and more to do with issues in your life that you need to confront for your own personal growth.

What exactly is he calling you out on OP? Is it too personal to share?
 
None of this sounds right to me. The harsh, tactlessness? I don't understand why it's okay for him to talk to you in that way. And why is he picking your flaws apart when he has issues too? Do you do that to him also? I have a feeling that this is going to get worse. This can easily turn into a verbally abusive relationship if you don't stop him.
 
Yes. all that tactless, heartless blunt ish is their nture. my sister is one and I cant stand her arse, cant imagine actually dating one

Im sure I'd constantly be defensive. you're better than me

Is this man calling you out on things you're doing wrong against him or he's just randomly throwing stuff out there. How do you react when he says these days? how is his body language when he states these things? etc
 
I haven't seen heartless. He's actually quite tender with me at times. He's blunt as hell and that was off putting initially. He's more careful now...

What I was trying to say was that all my insecurities and issues have bubbled to the surface this go round and I don't know why.

He isn't walking around berating me or verbally abusing me.
When I do things that are a direct contradiction to what I've said that I want in a relationship, he points that out to me and challenges me to figure out why I did it. He will often tell me why I did it but I'm too stubborn to say that he's right.

I don't know, I would never stay with someone who mistreated me. It just scares me that he can see through my wall.

Does that make sense?
 
I haven't seen heartless. He's actually quite tender with me at times. He's blunt as hell and that was off putting initially. He's more careful now...

What I was trying to say was that all my insecurities and issues have bubbled to the surface this go round and I don't know why.

He isn't walking around berating me or verbally abusing me.
When I do things that are a direct contradiction to what I've said that I want in a relationship, he points that out to me and challenges me to figure out why I did it. He will often tell me why I did it but I'm too stubborn to say that he's right.

I don't know, I would never stay with someone who mistreated me. It just scares me that he can see through my wall.

Does that make sense?

Yes, I understand exactly what you are saying and like I said before, this is very good! Be grateful you have a man like this in your life. I am going to read my book again and try to find some more excerpts for you

His calling you out on your BS will lead to growth and hopefully eradicate some of your insecurity. That is what relationships are for. Again, be grateful.

Edit: I realize that the excerpt I posted is not as helpful as I would like it to be, and introducing new concepts without proper introduction can be confusing. I will BBL
 
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well do you trust him? have a pretty good sense of judgement? because you're the only one that can vibe your man and as long his spirit is in the right place and he's not some master manipulator trying to control you instead of help you, then it should be good.

but if you don't trust him, i'd start doing some research on the guy:look:
 
I would laugh and then blink and say "wait, you're still here?" Honestly, it would be refreshing. Now if he was trying to teach me a thing or two or like you said mold me to be what he wanted me to be then I would run for the border. That's happened to me before and it felt yucky like the guy was trying to be my dad or something.
 
I haven't seen heartless. He's actually quite tender with me at times. He's blunt as hell and that was off putting initially. He's more careful now...

What I was trying to say was that all my insecurities and issues have bubbled to the surface this go round and I don't know why.

He isn't walking around berating me or verbally abusing me.
When I do things that are a direct contradiction to what I've said that I want in a relationship, he points that out to me and challenges me to figure out why I did it. He will often tell me why I did it but I'm too stubborn to say that he's right.

I don't know, I would never stay with someone who mistreated me. It just scares me that he can see through my wall.

Does that make sense?

I still say it's too early to say. Just because he's seeing through your wall doesn't equal good intent. The most successful players and manipulators do exactly that.

Give it some time. Look at him and the relationship in it's entirety. If his intentions are good it will show through in the way he is in other areas of his life as well as how he treats you.
 
@deltagyrl How frequent are these discussions?

I ended my last relationship because of similar behavior. At first I found it refreshing he could be so frank. His delivery was gentle. He never raised his voice. I thought I was blessed with a man who was a great communicator. Since we were discussing a possible future together I was happy we could get all our issues out in the open. Eventually as these discussions became more frequent (and one sided) I realized he wasn't "helping" me because he loved me, he was doing it because he was controlling. I don't need a man constantly psychoanalyzing me.

I think you feel uncomfortable for a reason. If this guy feels the need to "call you out" on a regular basis, run the other way.
 
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I don't think there's anything wrong with being direct. You haven't quoted anything specifically which we could interpret as rude, manipulative, or hateful. We are basing our opinions off of your perception and recitation of the types of things he's said and that can put opinions all over the place.

If you are not picking up mean-spirited, he is probably not being mean. I prefer direct to passive aggressive any day. If he's teaching you about yourself and causing a bit of introspection, that's a good thing. When we find a mate, we should hope that they will enlighten us, lift us up but still call us on our crap, and make us better people. But, does he compliment you as frequently as he encourages self-awareness or your "issues"?

If you choose to run because he makes you uncomfortable you have to check not just his motive but your motive. You already said the things he's told you ring true so even if the relationship ends, you are apparently learning something from all of this. Ride the wave and see what happens. If he is verbally abusive, that will become evident with time.

Does your gut tell you to run? Just listen to what your gut tells you.
 
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deltagyrl Girl you know you gotta tag me or I will be out eating cake and not paying attention, I forgot about this thread

Either the other guys didn't notice, didn't care or were so jacked up that I was focused on fixing them. Or I didn't respect them enough to care what they thought.

At first I thought he was trying to change me into who he thought I should be. Then I was offended because he's so blunt. Then once I calmed down and thought about what he was saying I realized that he was telling the truth about things I was/am doing within the relationship to get my way or manipulate things or avoid issues.
His communication style is much more direct than mine and that has taken some getting used to. I can see what I'm doing and to stop myself from self sabotaging.
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I'm still learning him but I will say that he does not really have a filter. Whatever he is thinking, he is gonna say. Is that rude? Insensitive? Tactless? Maybe. Mean spirited? I don't feel like it is. Is he trying to pick me apart to make me insecure?I'm a bit of a saboteur and didn't realize it.

I haven't seen heartless. He's actually quite tender with me at times.
What I was trying to say was that all my insecurities and issues have bubbled to the surface this go round and I don't know why.

He isn't walking around berating me or verbally abusing me.
When I do things that are a direct contradiction to what I've said that I want in a relationship, he points that out to me and challenges me to figure out why I did it. He will often tell me why I did it but I'm too stubborn to say that he's right.

It just scares me that he can see through my wall.

Does that make sense?

Ahh the love and bluntness of a Sagitarrius:look:

As Hopeful said I don't have enough details about the man to say he's mean or verbally abusive. I'm not getting a mean vibe from him?? It's a new relationship so I'd take it slow, try to learn more about him. He's not being untoward just a bit obtuse? Right??


OK-SO I'm using that zodiac bit because it stands out the most in this personality trait. But moreso, I will use myself as an example of being exposed because I can totally relate to just about all of this.:yep:

I was a relationship sabateur, I loved people, but I never gave my whole heart to them if that makes sense-looking back I always held back. But not because I didn't feel it just because I couldn't give into it. I think I thought I did, I really did! I loved but never allowed myself to BE truly in love and vulnerable with any man. I don't even want to be saying this in this thread now to all of ya'll-:lol:you know I don't deal in feelings much but for you today I will because I can rememeber the ephinany of being exposed.

I am a control freak by nature, I wanted to always be in control of my relationships and love because I feared being loved and having it control me. I knew I was deserving of love and always got what I wanted, I was very manipulative in relationships:look: I always dated good wonderful men but I gave them enough to keep them and have them love me 100% but I gave the bare minimum. I can remember my ex-fiancee saying You're here physically but you're never here emotionally. I was like yea OK, that's too below the surface, holla:lol:. So I said I wanted this and wanted that and I met DH and he was like "you're a fraud" I remember just thinking *** you what a jerk?!! But he wasn't mean about it....he was just like letting me know and he said Whether it be with ME or the next MAN, you gotta let x, y, z go and open up. It was also DH who was also the person that really got me to openly discuss my lack of emotion, lack of expressive love due to my infant abandonment whereas I was always flip about it like 'doesn't bother me, I don't care about her'. I STILL struggle with that, that's why I'm always like no one is leaving me, I will do the leaving. But you can't love like that you know?

Again using his zodiac bit because you're not giving me details--- let me again say some personality traits I notice in these men. These men ARE direct, they are forward, they are blunt. I intially would get my feelings hurt then I realized they aren't coming from a place of feelings, they are just speaking facts and really aren't trying to come off that way. They are also controlling and can be manipulative but not in a bad way IMO. They have their problems, like I think they are always victims:rolleyes: Controlling in that, they are masculine men, if that's not your game then don't apply. It's not for everyone. They will give you advice and expect you to follow it and adhere. I'm a very very very cautious person. But he's never steered me in the wrong direction in any decision he 'directed' me to take.

Even if this man isn't for you, you could probably learn somethings that you may not have known about yourself. If you are in fact a relationship sabatuer or the one that is never culpable for their errors in past relationships. That's something to be learned. I actually called an ex while I was dating DH to tell him I was sorry about being so emotionally unavailable to him during our relationship. I ended the relationship and blamed him when it was all me. But is this man ----sweet, loving, caring? In the midst of his bluntness? Is he fun and challenging? Is his directness tempered with challenge for you to be a better person? I think that is the vibe I'm getting from your posts, I'm not sure though.
 
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I don't think there's anything wrong with being direct. You haven't quoted anything specifically which we could interpret as rude, manipulative, or hateful. We are basing our opinions off of your perception and recitation of the types of things he's said and that can put opinions all over the place.

If you are not picking up mean-spirited, he is probably not being mean. I prefer direct to passive aggressive any day. If he's teaching you about yourself and causing a bit of introspection, that's a good thing. When we find a mate, we should hope that they will enlighten us, lift us up but still call us on our crap, and make us better people. But, does he compliment you as frequently as he encourages self-awareness or your "issues"?

If you choose to run because he makes you uncomfortable you have to check not just his motive but your motive. You already said the things he's told you ring true so even if the relationship ends, you are apparently learning something from all of this. Ride the wave and see what happens. If he is verbally abusive, that will become evident with time.

Does your gut tell you to run? Just listen to what your gut tells you.

This whole post:yep::yep:
 
Look at him and the relationship in it's entirety. If his intentions are good it will show through in the way he is in other areas of his life as well as how he treats you.

This is what I want to know also. How is he as a potential partner and in your dating life? Kind? Considerate?

Is he calling you out and dissecting your flaws in a manner that is challenging to you as a better person or is he being abusive?
 
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