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Carmelella said:
I recently found that pre straightening my roots a couple days before did wonders for me. Before smoothing and applying was so hard even if I presectioned. I also stopped using vaseline on the ends and switched to heavily pre oiling because the 3nds if sections stuck together and it was a mess to pull apart
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I wish I would've taken your advice on these two things! Vaseline did make things a little sticky and rough to get through. I will probably just use it on my problem areas only next time like short pieces on my crow and sides. I don't think I will presection anymore. It took an hour to presection and that was a lot of manipulation and I had a LOT of sections and after applying the relaxer I feel like it still wasn't enough sections. I may section as I go next time as long as my roots have been flat ironed. Overall, I'm happy with my results since I was also correcting some under processing from before... except I left the relaxer on for 25 minutes!! I'm not sure how bad that is lol
 
Lilmama1011 said:
did you do a protein treatment recently? with your roots not being straight it probably breaking at the line of demarcation
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You're totally right!! I saw a lot of long hair's, but they were obviously broken off pieces :nono:. Luckily that was the first time.

Renewed1 said:
ckisland I refuse to wrap my hair. I just put it in a high bun, I alternate positions on a nightly basis.

Of course, unless I'm wearing a twist out. then I wrap my ends in silk rollers.
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Saludable84 said:
I just bun my hair when it is straight at night. The wrap (regular or cross wrap) just does not agree with me.

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I'm glad I finally figured out how to wrap my hair, but I'll stick to my rollers and bunning at night. I'd like to go back to the days of little to no breakage that I was starting to get used to. Even with my relaxed hair I freaking heavy handed :lol: .
 
can any of you tell me what you use to moisturize your hair?

i use s curl spray ,then seal with oil, and cream on top of that (im experementing,) and ends are well moist.

i tried an oil moisturizer, seems heavier but feels moisturized.

i always have hair on my hands whatever i do , i wonder if its just shedding? but i sometimes find smaller pieces. and i dont overmanipulate my hair at all!

i dont know if its normal or if i should modify reggie again? i use both protein and moisture.

should i apoghee 2 step now at week 4 after relaxer (actually next week at Week 5)?

i dont lose 100 hairs per day... but i just hate seeing hair on my hands after mosturizing!

i need help
 
@coolsista-paris, I use the LOC method generally, but switch out particular products depending on how I plan to style (ie, heat-friendly moisturizers vs de-frizzing moisturizers). I'm not personally a fan of using glycerin-based products too soon after touching up. I don''t actually use them too much in general, but if I do, it'll be deep into a stretch and just on the new-growth. If I don't have a liquid around that I like, I'll just use water. Oh, and I stopped using oil completely. It was just disappearing into my hair. I use serum now.

Re: breakage. Are you using ceramides? They really helped turn my hair around.

eta: Realized I didn't actually answer your question re: specific products. :lol: I find that particular products don't make the difference, it really is ingredients and technique. For the last six months or so, I've been using mostly Sally's conditioners, leave-in's, and serums, and particular drugstore brands I like (Aussie, Loreal Paris Advanced). I'm, one, using this time to check (like a mathematical proof) my list of ingredients to make sure they actually agree with my hair in different products/ formulations, and, two, finding good cheapies for my mother since she no longer has access to my hair closet. I've retained as much if not more length than I did with randomly-chosen expensive products.
 
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Honey Bee said:
@coolsista-paris, I use the LOC method generally, but switch out particular products depending on how I plan to style (ie, heat-friendly moisturizers vs de-frizzing moisturizers). I'm not personally a fan of using glycerin-based products too soon after touching up. I don''t actually use them too much in general, but if I do, it'll be deep into a stretch and just on the new-growth. If I don't have a liquid around that I like, I'll just use water. Oh, and I stopped using oil completely. It was just disappearing into my hair. I use serum now. Re: breakage. Are you using ceramides? They really helped turn my hair around. eta: Realized I didn't actually answer your question re: specific products. :lol: I find that particular products don't make the difference, it really is ingredients and technique. For the last six months or so, I've been using mostly Sally's conditioners, leave-in's, and serums, and particular drugstore brands I like (Aussie, Loreal Paris Advanced). I'm, one, using this time to check (like a mathematical proof) my list of ingredients to make sure they actually agree with my hair in different products/ formulations, and, two, finding good cheapies for my mother since she no longer has access to my hair closet. I've retained as much if not more length than I did with randomly-chosen expensive products.
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thanks! youve well àswered to my quesions ;-)

i use s curl because im used to it (when natural). i do find it moisturizîng when sealed but the lost hairs got me wondering if it was a good idea :-/

i remember serum used to seal my hair well, but they contain silicones right? i will then have to shampoo with sulfates i guess?

i wanted to try out co washing in january... as usual im not sure of anything so just stay stuck like a fool hesitating on what to do.

i dont use ceramides! maybe i should co wash with te ceramids conditionner i found at te grocery store last month! it has so much slip and is so soft on my hair!! i forgot about that.
its about 6euros here in france. (its french anyway).

my hair is dryer today because i clarified 2 days ago.. i should have added more moisture .

oh my, finding what works for your hair js just so hard! i figured out my reggie only like 4 years after being natural( long i know)...
now im relaxed (since 4 weeks) here i go again... learning. but i dont want it to take as long as it took when i was natural!! how come i took that long?!
 
coolsista-paris

Definitely incorporate ceramides into your regimen. There's a challenge. :yep: Two of my favorite relaxed hair bloggers swear by them (Jen at Just Grow Already and Nadege at Relaxed Hair Therapy). I pre-poo with a ceramide conditioner, I'm six months post and very little breakage. That's because ceramides replenish the lipid layer of the strand therefore making it more flexible/ less brittle.

I actually stopped co-washing this fall. My hair seems to prefer shampoo once a week over cowashing twice a week. The pre-pooing cuts down on whatever dryness might occur as a result of the sulphates. I *may* go back to cowashing this spring/ summer, it depends on how my hair is doing.

Is your hair high porosity or low? And how are you styling your hair? What else...? Oh, do you have seamless combs? I remember you have fine hair, as do I. Regular combs were tearing my hair up, literally shredding it. I was 'no heat' for literally years and would still find tree splits. :nono: Between those combs and twist-outs wreaking havoc on my ends, I don't know how I retained anything at all.
 
Honey Bee said:
coolsista-paris Definitely incorporate ceramides into your regimen. There's a challenge. :yep: Two of my favorite relaxed hair bloggers swear by them (Jen at Just Grow Already and Nadege at Relaxed Hair Therapy). I pre-poo with a ceramide conditioner, I'm six months post and very little breakage. That's because ceramides replenish the lipid layer of the strand therefore making it more flexible/ less brittle. I actually stopped co-washing this fall. My hair seems to prefer shampoo once a week over cowashing twice a week. The pre-pooing cuts down on whatever dryness might occur as a result of the sulphates. I *may* go back to cowashing this spring/ summer, it depends on how my hair is doing. Is your hair high porosity or low? And how are you styling your hair? What else...? Oh, do you have seamless combs? I remember you have fine hair, as do I. Regular combs were tearing my hair up, literally shredding it. I was 'no heat' for literally years and would still find tree splits. :nono: Between those combs and twist-outs wreaking havoc on my ends, I don't know how I retained anything at all.
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im gonna definetly add ceramides. i will pre poo with conditionner like you do. i usualy prepoo +dc before shampoo( not time hoping in and out the tub)
i have a seamless comb i think ( a wide comb with nothing extra pulling ln the hair).i actually dont see what a seamless comb is (sorry :-/)

i usually wear a bun. or braid the ends and wear it up with a clip( hiding the ends).
i dont know ly porosity. ive done the water test and the hair took forever to sink.
but then on another side, when i air dry the roots take forever to dry (only ends dry fast).
when i used to baggy, it would be dry as soon as i took off the cap and stepped out the door (wrong products maybe)...

my hair gets wet fast when i pour water on it. ive never understood this porosity.

like you my hair hated twists!!

i just checker ingredients on my leave in (giovanni direc leave in): it has PROTEIN! ive always thought it was a moisturizing leave in!only moisture is what im looking for. do you know any?

maybe this is why my hair is snapping?! i always use protein on wash day, either prepoo or conditionner (apoghee 2 min).
i am maybe doing too much!?
 
Honey Bee said:
coolsista-paris Definitely incorporate ceramides into your regimen. There's a challenge. :yep: Two of my favorite relaxed hair bloggers swear by them (Jen at Just Grow Already and Nadege at Relaxed Hair Therapy). I pre-poo with a ceramide conditioner, I'm six months post and very little breakage. That's because ceramides replenish the lipid layer of the strand therefore making it more flexible/ less brittle. I actually stopped co-washing this fall. My hair seems to prefer shampoo once a week over cowashing twice a week. The pre-pooing cuts down on whatever dryness might occur as a result of the sulphates. I *may* go back to cowashing this spring/ summer, it depends on how my hair is doing. Is your hair high porosity or low? And how are you styling your hair? What else...? Oh, do you have seamless combs? I remember you have fine hair, as do I. Regular combs were tearing my hair up, literally shredding it. I was 'no heat' for literally years and would still find tree splits. :nono: Between those combs and twist-outs wreaking havoc on my ends, I don't know how I retained anything at all.
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oh and just added some oil moisturizer (keracare) my hair felt softer and it seems there is no protein in it( i hope i understood the ingredients).
but im still looking for a moisturizing only leave in.
it might help
 
I'm too sick to put my weave in as planned so now I have to figure out how to get my million weeks post relaxer hair in a bun. I would call in to work :look: but I just started. :sad:
 
Coolsista_paris

If it has been 4 weeks since your relaxer, you may want to find the time to clarify, do a protein treatment and follow up with a good DC. Don't do anything too hard. Even if you can get your hands on some ORS replenishing Conditoner, that can get your hair in shape.

You are still in the early stages. You will figure out what regimen works for you. In the meanwhile, if your hair is breaking or you are having a hard time with it, you might not want to prepoo until you get some stability as prepoos can dry your hair out more.

Porosity is to know how your cuticles are situated on a daily basis. Meaning, for the cuticles on the hair strand, is your hair highly porous where the cuticles stay lifted or is it low porosity where the cuticles are always shut. Normal means your cuticles are down, but the exchange is pretty normal. I have low porosity hair, so it is hard to keep my hair moisturized once it is dry. You can try to determine your porosity by taking a clean strand after shampooing and placing it in room temp water and waiting to see if it sinks (high), sits on top (low) or sits in the middle (normal). Knowing porosity is important because it can help you assess what products to use and what techniques to use to maintain your hair.

For example, I cannot use aloe because it closes my cuticles too much. Likewise I cannot use avocado in shampoos or deep conditioners because it is too smoothing.

Also, the LOC Method is very popular. It means Liquid Oil Cream and that is how you would use products on dry hair. However, I have to use the LCO version of the LOC Method because that one works better.

You have just got to get a handle on your hair and take steps from there. You can't really build a regimen until you determine porosity and what is really working for your hair.

Sent from my iPhone using LHCF
 
Saludable84 said:
Coolsista_paris If it has been 4 weeks since your relaxer, you may want to find the time to clarify, do a protein treatment and follow up with a good DC. Don't do anything too hard. Even if you can get your hands on some ORS replenishing Conditoner, that can get your hair in shape. You are still in the early stages. You will figure out what regimen works for you. In the meanwhile, if your hair is breaking or you are having a hard time with it, you might not want to prepoo until you get some stability as prepoos can dry your hair out more. Porosity is to know how your cuticles are situated on a daily basis. Meaning, for the cuticles on the hair strand, is your hair highly porous where the cuticles stay lifted or is it low porosity where the cuticles are always shut. Normal means your cuticles are down, but the exchange is pretty normal. I have low porosity hair, so it is hard to keep my hair moisturized once it is dry. You can try to determine your porosity by taking a clean strand after shampooing and placing it in room temp water and waiting to see if it sinks (high), sits on top (low) or sits in the middle (normal). Knowing porosity is important because it can help you assess what products to use and what techniques to use to maintain your hair. For example, I cannot use aloe because it closes my cuticles too much. Likewise I cannot use avocado in shampoos or deep conditioners because it is too smoothing. Also, the LOC Method is very popular. It means Liquid Oil Cream and that is how you would use products on dry hair. However, I have to use the LCO version of the LOC Method because that one works better. You have just got to get a handle on your hair and take steps from there. You can't really build a regimen until you determine porosity and what is really working for your hair. Sent from my iPhone using LHCF
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as my hair sat on top i must have low porosity( wonder if that changed since relaxer) i will do it again.
i clarified friday, but did not do hard protein.. i will catch up next week. ( next month i will henna).

im gonna go through some trial and error... a lot :-/
 
How should I put my hair up at night when I take out my clip in extensions? I don't want to wrap it. Should I pin curl?
 
coolsista-paris
You said you seal with an oil after the s-curl, right? What kind of oil are you using? I ask bc there are a lot of oils that contain ceramides. I use hemp seed oil, safflower oil, walnut oil and wheat germ oil. They really make a diff in the strength and softness of my texturized, high porosity hair.

For more info on ceramides, there is a challenge thread. The first few posts really explain the benefits of ceramides and the content amount of many diff oils.

I LOVE this HHJ!!
 
mshoneyfly said:
coolsista-paris You said you seal with an oil after the s-curl, right? What kind of oil are you using? I ask bc there are a lot of oils that contain ceramides. I use hemp seed oil, safflower oil, walnut oil and wheat germ oil. They really make a diff in the strength and softness of my texturized, high porosity hair. For more info on ceramides, there is a challenge thread. The first few posts really explain the benefits of ceramides and the content amount of many diff oils. I LOVE this HHJ!!
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i seal with coconut or a mixture of castor + grapeseed or castor+ olive oil.
thats all ive tried for the moment.

im also gonna read the ceramides threads
 
coolsista-paris said:
i seal with coconut or a mixture of castor + grapeseed or castor+ olive oil. thats all ive tried for the moment. im also gonna read the ceramides threads
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The scurl might wet the hair more than necessary, so using castor or grapeseed alone may help. I prefer sunflower or rice bran. Even hemp seed oil is good.

Also, make sure not to use a lot of scurl. It has a good amount of glycerin, so it exchanges a bit of moisture with the environment.

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I miss my straight hair sad;. But I'm going to focus on learning how to rollerset straight.

Might have to hit my roots with the flat iron though.
 
coolsista-paris said:
oh and just added some oil moisturizer (keracare) my hair felt softer and it seems there is no protein in it( i hope i understood the ingredients).
but im still looking for a moisturizing only leave in.
it might help
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I use Neutrogena Triple Moisture Silk Touch Leave-In Cream then seal with grapeseed oil, both of which absorb very well.
 
pelohello said:
^^^ I luv neutrogena triple moisture! It works great as a heat protectant & its a sun blocker too.
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Now I want to try NTM :look: !

I'm really loving my hair right now. I found that rubbing jbco on my left temple is helping with my flaking area. It was fine today :yep:. At this length, my hair curls up my neck and feels weird, so I put my hair in a octopus claw. My mom walked by and told me I looked so put together and fancy. So I'm definitely going to be clipping my hair up as my PS :grin:.
 
So I've been bunning every single day, but I had to wear my hair down for an event and someone asked me, "Do you have naturally thin hair?"
I almost cried on the spot! I guess my setback is more obvious than I thought. Now I have no idea how to wear my hair tonight for NYE
 
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