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Got an inch cut off yesterday and flat ironed my curls

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Kind of a random post but I have been wondering if any relaxed ladies ever thought about doing a keratin?

I've been looking into and being a relaxed head I've heard good and bad stories. Has anyone else thought about doing keratin over relaxers?

What are your thoughts??
 
Kind of a random post but I have been wondering if any relaxed ladies ever thought about doing a keratin?

I've been looking into and being a relaxed head I've heard good and bad stories. Has anyone else thought about doing keratin over relaxers?

What are your thoughts??

I was thinking about looking into it as a way to stretch my relaxer so I can't wait to see others respond to your question.
 
Kind of a random post but I have been wondering if any relaxed ladies ever thought about doing a keratin?

I've been looking into and being a relaxed head I've heard good and bad stories. Has anyone else thought about doing keratin over relaxers?

What are your thoughts??

Its my understanding that Keratin is what naturals use to get the relaxed look, right? If so, how is a Keratin treatment beneficial for a relaxed head?
 
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Just finished my first self relaxer and now I'm freaking out :sad:
I used linange and I think it did a pretty good job at relaxing my new growth.
After rinsing it out I applied the aphogee 2mn for about 5 minutes, rinsed it out and shampoo with the motion neutralizer twice. Then I applied the aussie 3mn miracle for another 5 minutes and finally I applied the trader's joe moisturizer and rinsed.
Well I think something went wrong because my hair started to come out in little clumps while I was detangling it. I'm not sure if this much hair usually comes out or if something went wrong.
Now I'm under the dryer and I'm kinda scared to take the rollers out and fear that more hair will come out. :perplexed. I really can't deal with yet another setback.
I don't know if I'm freaking out for nothing or if I should genuinely be concerned. Even if it's normal I'll probably leave it to the 'professionals' next time cause I don't think I can stomach seeing this much hair come out everytime I relax :lol:
Let me know what you guys think..
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Kind of a random post but I have been wondering if any relaxed ladies ever thought about doing a keratin?

I've been looking into and being a relaxed head I've heard good and bad stories. Has anyone else thought about doing keratin over relaxers?

What are your thoughts??

thebelleofelle
I have certainly thought about it lately but IDK if its even safe! Im 13 weeks post texturizer and really don't have much desire to relax. I would love to have straight hair without damage, though.
 
navila
oh wow. Hmmm, I really can't say. When my mom comb her hair after washing or a relaxer, I see long strands like this w/ her as well. But this is because she is so rough when detangling her hair while wet. I'm not sure what happened in this pic that you got long strands like this. Do you think it may be shed hair? Did you detangle before your relaxer?
 
navila
oh wow. Hmmm, I really can't say. When my mom comb her hair after washing or a relaxer, I see long strands like this w/ her as well. But this is because she is so rough when detangling her hair while wet. I'm not sure what happened in this pic that you got long strands like this. Do you think it may be shed hair? Did you detangle before your relaxer?
I did detangle beforehand and it is mostly shed hair now I'm just hoping that my hair won't start falling out even more. I think I would give up growing my hair out for good this time and just weave it up like my friends. :lol:
 
mshoneyfly said:
thebelleofelle
I have certainly thought about it lately but IDK if its even safe! Im 13 weeks post texturizer and really don't have much desire to relax. I would love to have straight hair without damage, though.

That's exactly what I've been thinking...I love my hair freshly relaxed and whenever it's straight/blown out but I know both can be so damaging and I kind of wanna go natural but keep my hair straight. I know it sounds crazy but I'm glad to see others have been thinking about it!!!!!
 
That's exactly what I've been thinking...I love my hair freshly relaxed and whenever it's straight/blown out but I know both can be so damaging and I kind of wanna go natural but keep my hair straight. I know it sounds crazy but I'm glad to see others have been thinking about it!!!!!

So, thebelleofelle
Have you found any examples (bloggers, YTers, etc) of relaxed heads who do keratin treatments?
 
Just finished my first self relaxer and now I'm freaking out :sad:
I used linange and I think it did a pretty good job at relaxing my new growth.
After rinsing it out I applied the aphogee 2mn for about 5 minutes, rinsed it out and shampoo with the motion neutralizer twice. Then I applied the aussie 3mn miracle for another 5 minutes and finally I applied the trader's joe moisturizer and rinsed.
Well I think something went wrong because my hair started to come out in little clumps while I was detangling it. I'm not sure if this much hair usually comes out or if something went wrong.
Now I'm under the dryer and I'm kinda scared to take the rollers out and fear that more hair will come out. :perplexed. I really can't deal with yet another setback.
I don't know if I'm freaking out for nothing or if I should genuinely be concerned. Even if it's normal I'll probably leave it to the 'professionals' next time cause I don't think I can stomach seeing this much hair come out everytime I relax :lol:
Let me know what you guys think..

That usually happens when i over process
 
Kind of a random post but I have been wondering if any relaxed ladies ever thought about doing a keratin?

I've been looking into and being a relaxed head I've heard good and bad stories. Has anyone else thought about doing keratin over relaxers?

What are your thoughts??

Protein/ strengthening treatment
 
Just finished my first self relaxer and now I'm freaking out :sad:
I used linange and I think it did a pretty good job at relaxing my new growth.
After rinsing it out I applied the aphogee 2mn for about 5 minutes, rinsed it out and shampoo with the motion neutralizer twice. Then I applied the aussie 3mn miracle for another 5 minutes and finally I applied the trader's joe moisturizer and rinsed.
Well I think something went wrong because my hair started to come out in little clumps while I was detangling it. I'm not sure if this much hair usually comes out or if something went wrong.
Now I'm under the dryer and I'm kinda scared to take the rollers out and fear that more hair will come out. :perplexed. I really can't deal with yet another setback.
I don't know if I'm freaking out for nothing or if I should genuinely be concerned. Even if it's normal I'll probably leave it to the 'professionals' next time cause I don't think I can stomach seeing this much hair come out everytime I relax :lol:
Let me know what you guys think..

You put in the aphogee before neutralizing? I would neutralize before anything, maybe you over processed with they extra five minutes
 
Kind of a random post but I have been wondering if any relaxed ladies ever thought about doing a keratin?

I've been looking into and being a relaxed head I've heard good and bad stories. Has anyone else thought about doing keratin over relaxers?

What are your thoughts??

When I was researching it, I was told that a) your hair will eventually revert and b) if your relaxed hair is already in good shape, don't bother.

Please excuse my iPhone; it's trying to get it together
 
You put in the aphogee before neutralizing? I would neutralize before anything, maybe you over processed with they extra five minutes

I think a lot of people do a mid protein step before neutralizing. I believe the logic is that the relaxer opens up ur cuticles and during this time it's easier for the protein to adhere to your strands and strengthen them.

navila did you do a DC? I see that you used light conditioners and rinsed after a few mins, but on relaxer day you should deep condition with a moisturizing con for at least 30 mins, preferably with heat.
 
I think a lot of people do a mid protein step before neutralizing. I believe the logic is that the relaxer opens up ur cuticles and during this time it's easier for the protein to adhere to your strands and strengthen them.

navila did you do a DC? I see that you used light conditioners and rinsed after a few mins, but on relaxer day you should deep condition with a moisturizing con for at least 30 mins, preferably with heat.
I rarely DC when I relax because my hair seems to break a lot when I do so. But since I used protein I should have done one this time.
On a lighter note I think that I failed to detangle and removing the shed hair properly so they came out once I relax it.
My hair seems longer and thicker than the last time I relaxed and only a few stands came out this morning, so I'm relieved.
I'll post pics in a few...
 
navila

I agree with the others that said that extra 5 mins of the Aphogee before neutralizing could have over processed you. For that reason, I NEVER do a mid-step protein. Once I have my desired processing of new growth, I want the relaxer out and neutralized as soon as humanly possible. I'm terrified of overprocessing just to have a protein conditioner on there when it can be done first thing AFTER neutralizing and stabilizing pH, which I do with French Perm Stabilizer Plus.

Also, why did you only shampoo twice? I shampoo a minimum of 3 times, leaving the suds in about 1-2 mins each before rinsing to make SURE to neutralize and remove residual relaxer.

I use a color-indicating neutralizing shampoo and I find that it does not remove all the relaxer with just 2 shampoos. I do 4 sometimes as that is when the suds finally turn completely white.

When I allow the suds to sit on my hair a few mins before rinsing, it removes relaxer faster than if I just rinse without letting it sit. I have done minimum 3 shampoos for many, many years (over 15 yrs). Maybe you didn't remove all the relaxer. That can really damage hair, scalp and cause hair to fall out.

The only time I ever had hair come out was when a girl put relaxer on previously relaxed hair and that caused over processing. I had to get several inches cut off. I have been self-relaxing exclusively for almost 10 years. Before that, I still had the knowledge and technique down since my mom went to cosmetology school, and she did my relaxers before I began doing them myself.

I also intentionally add oil to increase processing time and get more of a gentle relaxing, use only mild relaxers, and stretch 12-14 weeks or more. I have stretched as long as 6 months and gone natural twice. I think proper neutralizing is extremely important to maintaining relaxed hair health, thickness, and integrity, as well as scalp health. Hth!
 
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I rinsed it with my showerhead on its highest power and spent a lot of time 'shampooing' it so I hope I got all of it out. But your shampoo sounds interesting. What's the brand?
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navila

I agree with the others that said that extra 5 mins of the Aphogee before neutralizing could have over processed you. For that reason, I NEVER do a mid-step protein. Once I have my desired processing of new growth, I want the relaxer out and neutralized as soon as humanly possible. I'm terrified of overprocessing just to have a protein conditioner on there when it can be done first thing AFTER neutralizing and stabilizing pH, which I do with French Perm Stabilizer Plus.

Also, why did you only shampoo twice? I shampoo a minimum of 3 times, leaving the suds in about 1-2 mins each before rinsing to make SURE to neutralize and remove residual relaxer.

I use a color-indicating neutralizing shampoo and I find that it does not remove all the relaxer with just 2 shampoos. I do 4 sometimes as that is when the suds finally turn completely white.

When I allow the suds to sit on my hair a few mins before rinsing, it removes relaxer faster than if I just rinse without letting it sit. I have done minimum 3 shampoos for many, many years (over 15 yrs). Maybe you didn't remove all the relaxer. That can really damage hair, scalp and cause hair to fall out.

The only time I ever had hair come out was when a girl put relaxer on previously relaxed hair and that caused over processing. I had to get several inches cut off. I have been self-relaxing exclusively for almost 10 years. Before that, I still had the knowledge and technique down since my mom went to cosmetology school, and she did my relaxers before I began doing them myself.

I also intentionally add oil to increase processing time and get more of a gentle relaxing, use only mild relaxers, and stretch 12-14 weeks or more. I have stretched as long as 6 months and gone natural twice. I think proper neutralizing is extremely important to maintaining relaxed hair health, thickness, and integrity, as well as scalp health. Hth!
 
So it seems like my hair is going to make it :lol:
I didn't lose anymore excessive hair this morning.
I didn't flat iron it this morning like I had planned so it is not straight in the pics. It had a lil bit of curls in it but the humidity caused them to fall and it's frizzy now. But overall I think that I retained my length this time and it's much fuller.

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PicsArt_1372112108411.jpg And now. I will be getting it blowdry next week so the length will show better.
 
So it seems like my hair is going to make it :lol:
I didn't lose anymore excessive hair this morning.
I didn't flat iron it this morning like I had planned so it is not straight in the pics. It had a lil bit of curls in it but the humidity caused them to fall and it's frizzy now. But overall I think that I retained my length this time and it's much fuller.

Texture before relaxer

After wet (sorry it's not straight)

After dry

And now. I will be getting it blowdry next week so the length will show better.

When I saw your first post I was thinking that the issue might just be shed hairs trangling and causing knots. But I thought I saw somewhere that you said you had detangled so I didn't bother mention it.
All in all looks like your relaxer was a success so congrats. Your hair looks fab.
 
When I saw your first post I was thinking that the issue might just be shed hairs trangling and causing knots. But I thought I saw somewhere that you said you had detangled so I didn't bother mention it.
All in all looks like your relaxer was a success so congrats. Your hair looks fab.

I think that was the problem as well. I didn't detangle it well enough. But thank you and I like your hair as well it's so shiny!!!
 
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