Random Hair Thoughts/Thinking out loud

[sgold04]

I've decided to keep a hair journal. I wish I started one at the beginning of my HHJ this summer. I cannot quite remember what works and what doesn't after a while, and I'm really tired of experimenting.

 

[faithVA]

divachyk[/USER];19543439]faithVA, I know you've tried several products. However, I don't think the LI is working if the hair doesn't feel great after drying. Or then again, it could be that all the moisture is evaporating from not sealing since you have low porosity. Have you tried using one product line from start to finish to see if that helps?

I have tried different leave-ins over the past 2 years. The As I Am is the only one that hasn't made my hair feel hard and stiff as soon as I put it on. I can't remember all of them. I would have to go back through my stash list. HanaKuroi sent me a lot. I have tried Darcy's something, Purabody Sapote and Murumuru, Jane Carter, Shea Moisture, Carol's Daughter, um... like I said I can't remember them all.

And I have tried a full line but usually I can't do to shampoo's at all. I tried the full Jane Carter, Shea Moisture, As I Am, Komaza. Maybe some others. I got tired of spending money trying a whole line when only 1 or 2 products worked.

But I am open to suggestions of a line that may work.

I have tried sealing and I still seal. I don't just put on a leave-in and stop. I have done LOC, LOB, LLC, LOCO. EIEIO. My hair is illiterate and cannot spell.

 

[faithVA]

Have you looked at the common denominator in the products you add after your leave in?

That sounds exactly what happens to my hair if I seal my hair with anything with coconut oil in the first five ingredients or if Im using products with aloe/shea that are not formulated correctly.

faithVA

Thanks, I think I have. I don't use dimethicones or coconut oil in anything. Yes it is hard to find products without aloe or shea. I would have to look at everything to see where it is in the list. I know I've tried 20 diffferent oils and 20 different creams in 2 years.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA, I stopped using leave ins for that reason and modified my DCing regimen so now I just put a pea sized amount of reg condish on my Reg wash days...and my curl activator/Eco. My hair 'has been drying really soft nd bouncy even if I don't diffuse. For some reason leave ins always just coated my hair nd left it feeling dry. I can't use straight oils or leave In cause yea my hair crunches once dry. Maybe ur havintge same issue.

Perhaps. I have tried conditioner in place of leave-ins. I have tried conditioners that Divachyk uses as a leave-in. I've tried DevaCurl One which my hair loves for cowashes. And I've tried the SM Restorative conditioner. I didn't notice anything different.

 

[Lilmama1011]

i make fake YouTube videos and delete them because i have no confidence to upload them. its not like i can do styles. i wash in the shower so will only explain and not show. all i would do is show how i detangle and set my hair weekly, womp womp. i will wait to i get more length, they listen more when your hair swinging big time

 

[faithVA]

DoDo[/USER];19543819]faithVA

It could be that your hair just doesn't like oils or butters period. My dry hair loves water based butter sealants. However, I have recently discovered that if my hair is wet less is more. If I have conditioned at all and proceed to air dry with no product my hair can be very soft the next day. If I use a light leave in and that is all I will get the same if not slightly better results than I do air drying with naked hair. I really like the As I Am leave in too. Try using that and sealing with a bit of avocado oil then let it air dry stretched in either braids or twists. When your hair finally decides to dry (I am low porosity too it may take 2 days sometimes ) you may find that your hair is soft and smooth. If that doesn't work try the leave in alone. All I am saying is if you find that products take away that feeling of softness you like, than maybe your hair just doesn't need all of that extra. Err on the side of less product, and when the hair starts to lose some of its moisture refresh with a light leave in and oil. We all have different heads of hair, what works for one often does not work for the other.

My hair doesn't really like oils or butters. I do know that. But I also know I need to seal in the little moisture I do get somehow. Just haven't figured that out. I just haven't found anything to use after my leave-in. A leave-in alone is OK for a while but it will dry out. What water based sealant do you use?

 

[faithVA]

I really didn't mean to turn the Random Hair Thread into my thread I just needed to vent cuz I am really over it. If I had known the hair journey was going to be this long and drawn out, I would have just stayed bald

 

[Lilmama1011]

I really didn't mean to turn the Random Hair Thread into my thread I just needed to vent cuz I am really over it. If I had known the hair journey was going to be this long and drawn out, I would have just stayed bald

yeah right! you say that now. taking care of your hair is like eating right. you shouldn't stop at any point, it becomes your lifestyle. when you reach your goal will you just slack off and lose your progress? faithVA

 

[HanaKuroi]

Thanks, I think I have. I don't use dimethicones or coconut oil in anything. Yes it is hard to find products without aloe or shea. I would have to look at everything to see where it is in the list. I know I've tried 20 diffferent oils and 20 different creams in 2 years.

Are amodimeticones okay? That loreal has amodimeticone that you are using I believe.

I have never had luck with leave-ins.

I leave them alone.

I just use my Oyin or QB on nearly dry hair.

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[MileHighDiva]

i make fake YouTube videos as and delete them because i have no confidence to upload them. its not like i can do styles. i wash in the shower so will only explain and not show. all i would do is show how i detangle and set my hair weekly, womp womp. i will wait to i get more length, they listen more when your hair swinging big time

Lilmama1011 people like seeing the whole journey, so start now.

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[Lilmama1011]

Are amodimeticones okay? That loreal has amodimeticone that you are using I believe.

I have never had luck with leave-ins.

I leave them alone.

I just use my Oyin or QB on nearly dry hair.

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its a water soluble cone so its the best cone to use

 

[DoDo]

My hair doesn't really like oils or butters. I do know that. But I also know I need to seal in the little moisture I do get somehow. Just haven't figured that out. I just haven't found anything to use after my leave-in. A leave-in alone is OK for a while but it will dry out. What water based sealant do you use?

faithVA

I like the Bask Palm Tapioca Deluxe Cream for setting dry hair.

I like the Argan and Olive Oil conditioner on wet and dry hair as a leave in and I have used it with success using the Bask to seal.

The Camille Rose Curl Love is great for when I don't want to use a moisturizer but I still want to seal in moisture.

The Oyin Hair Dew is good for a day maybe two with no sealant and good maybe 3 to 4 days with some sort of oil sealant. My go to is grape seed oil because it's incredibly light and avocado because it is not too heavy or too light and very smoothing.

It will take a bit of time is all I can say but it is worth it.

Your hair in your avatar looks thick lush and sheeny. I think it's worth the investment. Eventually 80 percent of the things you use will work and it will be about "hmmm what might work better?"

That is kind of where it is for me.

 

[faithVA]

yeah right! you say that now. taking care of your hair is like eating right. you shouldn't stop at any point, it becomes your lifestyle. when you reach your goal will you just slack off and lose your progress? faithVA

I know you mean well but I have been on this journey for a long time. And if anyone follows my history I don't think I can be accused of not taking care of my hair ever. I have been on this journey for 5 years and have tried to be on top of my game for that entire time. And I have never slacked. And after five years I have had enough. So if I decide to slack or shave it off, so be it.

 

[faithVA]

faithVA

I like the Bask Palm Tapioca Deluxe Cream for setting dry hair.

I like the Argan and Olive Oil conditioner on wet and dry hair as a leave in and I have used it with success using the Bask to seal.

The Camille Rose Curl Love is great for when I don't want to use a moisturizer but I still want to seal in moisture.

The Oyin Hair Dew is good for a day maybe two with no sealant and good maybe 3 to 4 days with some sort of oil sealant. My go to is grape seed oil because it's incredibly light and avocado because it is not too heavy or too light and very smoothing.

It will take a bit of time is all I can say but it is worth it.

Your hair in your avatar looks thick lush and sheeny. I think it's worth the investment. Eventually 80 percent of the things you use will work and it will be about "hmmm what might work better?"

That is kind of where it is for me.

Thank you. I may try the Camille Rose. I have tried both the BASK, which seems nice. It doesn't act differently but it seems nice. The Oyin did nothing. Yeah, I'm a bit done with trying anything else. I really am over it. I think I am beyond encouraging at this point.

 

[havilland]

I really didn't mean to turn the Random Hair Thread into my thread I just needed to vent cuz I am really over it. If I had known the hair journey was going to be this long and drawn out, I would have just stayed bald

Girl i feel you.

I've been at this 6 years and have had so many journey "changers"......it can be a bit frustrating at times.

If I had nailed my regimen and went natural in year one, I'd be tailbone length by now. Trial and error is a b.

 

[HanaKuroi]

faithVA

I like the Bask Palm Tapioca Deluxe Cream for setting dry hair.

I like the Argan and Olive Oil conditioner on wet and dry hair as a leave in and I have used it with success using the Bask to seal.

The Camille Rose Curl Love is great for when I don't want to use a moisturizer but I still want to seal in moisture.

The Oyin Hair Dew is good for a day maybe two with no sealant and good maybe 3 to 4 days with some sort of oil sealant. My go to is grape seed oil because it's incredibly light and avocado because it is not too heavy or too light and very smoothing.

It will take a bit of time is all I can say but it is worth it.

Your hair in your avatar looks thick lush and sheeny. I think it's worth the investment. Eventually 80 percent of the things you use will work and it will be about "hmmm what might work better?"

That is kind of where it is for me.

I love these same products. I have never used the argon and olive oil.

Bask tapioca and Oyin are so wonderful!

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[faithVA]

Girl i feel you.

I've been at this 6 years and have had so many journey "changers"......it can be a bit frustrating at times.

If I had nailed my regimen and went natural in year one, I'd be tailbone length by now. Trial and error is a b.

Thank You. So would I

 

[faithVA]

HanaKuroi[/USER];19546031]I love these same products. I have never used the argon and olive oil.

Bask tapioca and Oyin are so wonderful!

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I'm going to follow your other suggestion.

At this point I don't think it is a product issue. I have tried 70% of anything people could name. I think you sent me Oyin and it didn't do anything. And I have the BASK. Its nice but not a game changer. It felt great going on but my hair was still stiff and hard and sort of dry feeling.

 

[faithVA]

Are amodimeticones okay? That loreal has amodimeticone that you are using I believe.

I have never had luck with leave-ins.

I leave them alone.

I just use my Oyin or QB on nearly dry hair.

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I just started using the Loreal last month so its not the issue. You know I've been struggling much longer than that. I started using the Loreal after the issue really got severe trying to sae my hari. The leave-in is the only thing that seems to work which is why I have stayed with it.

I can try the QB on nearly dry hair. I'm not sure about letting my hair dry too much without anything on it. Because once it starts locking up it is hard to get loose I can try it with one side. I am sure i have done it before but I can't remember the results. I usually do comparisons and split my hair into 4 sections and try different things on each section.

 

[HanaKuroi]

I'm going to follow your other suggestion.

At this point I don't think it is a product issue. I have tried 70% of anything people could name. I think you sent me Oyin and it didn't do anything. And I have the BASK. Its nice but not a game changer. It felt great going on but my hair was still stiff and hard and sort of dry feeling.

I have to seal the Oyin. I seal it with their pomade. Actually I use Oyin as my liquid, bask tapioca as my cream, and Oyin berries pomade as my sealant/oil.

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[HanaKuroi]

I just started using the Loreal last month so its not the issue. You know I've been struggling much longer than that. I started using the Loreal after the issue really got severe trying to sae my hari. The leave-in is the only thing that seems to work which is why I have stayed with it.

I can try the QB on nearly dry hair. I'm not sure about letting my hair dry too much without anything on it. Because once it starts locking up it is hard to get loose I can try it with one side. I am sure i have done it before but I can't remember the results. I usually do comparisons and split my hair into 4 sections and try different things on each section.

Do u have and QB ctdg?

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[faithVA]

HanaKuroi[/USER];19546077]Do u have and QB ctdg?

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Um, whats a ctdg?

 

[faithVA]

I have to seal the Oyin. I seal it with their pomade. Actually I use Oyin as my liquid, bask tapioca as my cream, and Oyin berries pomade as my sealant/oil.

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I can PM you if you want. But I have used Oyin as my liquid. I used some cream but I didn't have BASK at the time. I can't use a pomade on my hair. It will just be an oil slick even if I do use just a little. The BASK by itself will make my hair greasy.

 

[Spongebob]

I have just detangled half of my hair, with half a bottle of conditioner. My back is hurting, my cheeks are red, and I'm not ever letting my hair out in 2014 ever again. I have come to the realization that letting my hair out is just not an option anymore. It was fine when it was short, but now that they are longer, they tangle more difficult, and I've had to cut out knots that were impossible to detangle. note to self: do not let your hair out in 2014. enough is enough

 

[HanaKuroi]

I can PM you if you want. But I have used Oyin as my liquid. I used some cream but I didn't have BASK at the time. I can't use a pomade on my hair. It will just be an oil slick even if I do use just a little. The BASK by itself will make my hair greasy.

We will figure this out. Don't lose Faith. (Pun intended)

I wish I lived closer. We would go through my stash and find the perfect combo!

I understand taking a break. You don't need to be stressed by hair. No ma'am.

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[naija24]

Officially signed up for swim classes. So for better or worse I'll be in braids until the first week of March and almost 5 months post.

 

[faithVA]

HanaKuroi[/USER];19546273]We will figure this out. Don't lose Faith. (Pun intended)

I wish I lived closer. We would go through my stash and find the perfect combo!

I understand taking a break. You don't need to be stressed by hair. No ma'am.

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I wish you lived closer to I need you. You really have helped me a lot. I wouldn't even be this far without you. Because of that I'm going to give you a pass on the name joke

Yes, I am definitely taking a break. I need it. And these puffy twists were so easy to install that they are just the break I need.

ETA: What is ctdg?

 

[HanaKuroi]

I wish you lived closer to I need you. You really have helped me a lot. I wouldn't even be this far without you. Because of that I'm going to give you a pass on the name joke

Yes, I am definitely taking a break. I need it. And these puffy twists were so easy to install that they are just the break I need.

ETA: What is ctdg?

QB cocoa tree detangliing ghee.

You give me too much credit. Thank you for the pass. I am always driving my family crazy with puns and rhymes. I couldn't resist.

I am going to give your hair some more thought. Have you tried CJ curl rehab for a conditioner?

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[faithVA]

QB cocoa tree detangliing ghee.

You give me too much credit. Thank you for the pass. I am always driving my family crazy with puns and rhymes. I couldn't resist.

I am going to give your hair some more thought. Have you tried CJ curl rehab for a conditioner?

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You sent me a sample of the ghee. I did try it.

No, I'm giving you the proper credit.

No, I haven't tried anything from Curl Junkie. I didn't think I was having an issue with conditioners and was happy with what I had. I really haven't been on a search for a new conditioner. Someone sent me a sample of the Claudies Normalizing. They said it helped their hair hold moisture. I am going to try that when i take my twist out to see if it helps any. I still have quite a few conditioner samples in my stash to try out.

 

[HanaKuroi]

You sent me a sample of the ghee. I did try it.

No, I'm giving you the proper credit.

No, I haven't tried anything from Curl Junkie. I didn't think I was having an issue with conditioners and was happy with what I had. I really haven't been on a search for a new conditioner. Someone sent me a sample of the Claudies Normalizing. They said it helped their hair hold moisture. I am going to try that when i take my twist out to see if it helps any. I still have quite a few conditioner samples in my stash to try out.

I don't use the ctdg alone. I use it on damp almost dry hair and then the above method when my hair is feeling dry or I have been running around without a hat or after henna. I have to seal it though.

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