I agree with you, which is why I said I think there is probably more to the story than what was shared in the article. He could very well have challenged his members to refrain from doing other things, but weave is what was put in the article. As long as his message wasn't strictly about weaves, then I agree with what he is saying. If his message was only about weaves, well then he is walking a mighty fine line.
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I agree with you, which is why I said I think there is probably more to the story than what was shared in the article. He could very well have challenged his members to refrain from doing other things, but weave is what was put in the article. As long as his message wasn't strictly about weaves, then I agree with what he is saying. If his message was only about weaves, well then he is walking a mighty fine line.
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I appreciate everyone's comments... my thing is, this must be a big-enough issue at this church for him to address it so poignantly. BAN is a heavy word to use. Not saying he's right about being dictatorial.. lol His approach needs prayer.
Well said, Shimmie... I agree to pray for him and all pastors, spiritual leaders, ministers of the Gospel, as prescribed by God. Many are called, few are chosen; They were either sent, or they went
The sent ones will always triumph.
Well said, Shimmie... I agree to pray for him and all pastors, spiritual leaders, ministers of the Gospel, as prescribed by God. Many are called, few are chosen; They were either sent, or they went
The sent ones will always triumph.Hello Ladies! I found this topic interesting on Longhairdontcare. Many ladies wear weaves to give their hair a rest. This is a choice. If someone can wear a weave and it helps their life, I am happy for them. I am off of work and will probably return in September. I cannot imagine keeping up with my hair like I do and working 40 hours or more a week. My son is 23 and does not require as much as he did when he was younger. If a weave helps you stay pulled together to work and get dinner on the table, then you are earning a living and feeding the children. God gives us choice in everything starting with salvation. I have over 10 new wigs still in the package. I do not consider them a sin. This is something that I allow. If people are sacrificing their hair to idols, we can plead the blood and pray over the hair. I am not going to wear an alopecia patch in public because someone is doing a sacrifice somewhere. No offense to anyone intended. God blessed me with those wigs. I do not wear weaves but more power to those that do so. I posted this article from this pastor on my facebook paging requesting comments. Years ago, the founder of my current church condemned locs as demon possession. Everyone was virtually wearing the same hairdo. Many of the bans on fashion are simply someone personal preference. Many wear very expensive clothes to church. Is there to be a limit on how much a dress or suit can cost? I did not agree with this position by this pastor. It took me a long time to understand that I could not wear my hair straight everyday and have some on my head. I will stop now.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/people/highlights/010622_hair.shtml
Temple Hair Sale
Human hair is a lucrative business in India. Companies export long hair to the West where it is used for wigs and hair extensions, whilst the shorter hair is mainly sold to Chinese firms who extract amino acids from it.
For large temples, where it is considered auspicious for pilgrims to have their heads shaved, the clippings are a major source of income.
At the Venkateshwara Temple in south India more than 75 tonnes of hair are sold annually, raising nearly £4 million for the temple's charities. Crispin Thorold reports for The World Today.
Devotees
The Venkateshwara Temple, at Tirumala in the south Indian State of Andhra Pradesh, is thought to attract more pilgrims than Jerusalem, Rome or Mecca.
Over 18 million devotees visit every year to pay their respects to an incarnation of Vishnu; the God that Hindus believe protects and sustains all that is good in society.
The temple is India's richest; something that P Krishnaiah, the executive officer of the temple's managing committee, attributes to extraordinary faith:
‘People believe that this Lord represents Lord Vishnu. Normally people feel that Gods cannot be seen. But people believe here is a God that is seen. That is how people are willing to donate large sums of money, because they have that faith.’
Some estimates put Tirumala's annual income at a billion rupees, which is a staggering £15 million ($23 million). Most of this comes from direct donations, but a significant proportion is raised by the sale of human hair as even the very humblest visitor can offer as much as his wealthier neighbours.
Temple Barbers
In two large halls, hundreds of barbers work around the clock, tonsuring 12,000 pilgrims every day.
Siddiah is the latest member of his family to become a temple barber. He explains why so many devotees are prepared to lose their locks:
‘The pilgrims come to Tirumala and donate their hair. The reason they do this is when a head is shaved the person loses their beauty.'
'So the devotees who come here want to donate their hair, because a Hindu feels giving hair to the Lord is more important than giving money.’
This hair is collected and sorted into four types. Long women's hair and grey hair are the most highly sort varieties, but there is also considerable demand for short hair at Tirumala's regular sales.
Hair Exporters
Kishore Kumar is from Gupta Enterprises, a Madras-based firm that is one of India's biggest exporters of human hair. He explains the many uses of hair:
‘What we collect from the temples is used all over the world. Mostly it goes to Italy, a lot of wig manufacturers are there, and a lot of hair extension companies are there.’
‘The shorter hair is primarily used for the extraction of a protein called El-Cystine. This protein is an amino acid used in food preservatives and various other things.’
Hair Importers
Importers say that Indian hair is the best money can buy, and good profits can be made.
Werner Diaber is a software engineer in his native Germany, but twice a year he visits India to buy as much hair as he can carry. He explains the desire for Indian human hair in the West:
‘They are the strongest hair and the most beautiful hairs, and the Indian women they have very long hairs.’
‘It is a lucrative thing for everybody, because in the Western World these hair extensions are getting very popular now. And if you manage to get the hairs here for a reasonable price you can make money.’
On this trip Werner was attempting to carry home two suitcases, two holdalls and a cardboard box all full of hair. If he managed to get the 40 kilos back to Germany he would make over £1500 profit (nearly $2500 profit).
Tirumala's income from human hair is in a different league. Last year they made just under £4 million ($6 million).
The money that is raised at the temple funds accommodation and other facilities for the pilgrims. The rest goes to a charitable foundation that runs numerous organisations including three hospitals, an orphanage, a university, and religious training institutions.
Temple Hair Sale
Human hair is a lucrative business in India. Companies export long hair to the West where it is used for wigs and hair extensions, whilst the shorter hair is mainly sold to Chinese firms who extract amino acids from it.
For large temples, where it is considered auspicious for pilgrims to have their heads shaved, the clippings are a major source of income.
At the Venkateshwara Temple in south India more than 75 tonnes of hair are sold annually, raising nearly £4 million for the temple's charities. Crispin Thorold reports for The World Today.
Devotees
The Venkateshwara Temple, at Tirumala in the south Indian State of Andhra Pradesh, is thought to attract more pilgrims than Jerusalem, Rome or Mecca.
Over 18 million devotees visit every year to pay their respects to an incarnation of Vishnu; the God that Hindus believe protects and sustains all that is good in society.
The temple is India's richest; something that P Krishnaiah, the executive officer of the temple's managing committee, attributes to extraordinary faith:
‘People believe that this Lord represents Lord Vishnu. Normally people feel that Gods cannot be seen. But people believe here is a God that is seen. That is how people are willing to donate large sums of money, because they have that faith.’
Some estimates put Tirumala's annual income at a billion rupees, which is a staggering £15 million ($23 million). Most of this comes from direct donations, but a significant proportion is raised by the sale of human hair as even the very humblest visitor can offer as much as his wealthier neighbours.
Temple Barbers
In two large halls, hundreds of barbers work around the clock, tonsuring 12,000 pilgrims every day.
Siddiah is the latest member of his family to become a temple barber. He explains why so many devotees are prepared to lose their locks:
‘The pilgrims come to Tirumala and donate their hair. The reason they do this is when a head is shaved the person loses their beauty.'
'So the devotees who come here want to donate their hair, because a Hindu feels giving hair to the Lord is more important than giving money.’
This hair is collected and sorted into four types. Long women's hair and grey hair are the most highly sort varieties, but there is also considerable demand for short hair at Tirumala's regular sales.
Hair Exporters
Kishore Kumar is from Gupta Enterprises, a Madras-based firm that is one of India's biggest exporters of human hair. He explains the many uses of hair:
‘What we collect from the temples is used all over the world. Mostly it goes to Italy, a lot of wig manufacturers are there, and a lot of hair extension companies are there.’
‘The shorter hair is primarily used for the extraction of a protein called El-Cystine. This protein is an amino acid used in food preservatives and various other things.’
Hair Importers
Importers say that Indian hair is the best money can buy, and good profits can be made.
Werner Diaber is a software engineer in his native Germany, but twice a year he visits India to buy as much hair as he can carry. He explains the desire for Indian human hair in the West:
‘They are the strongest hair and the most beautiful hairs, and the Indian women they have very long hairs.’
‘It is a lucrative thing for everybody, because in the Western World these hair extensions are getting very popular now. And if you manage to get the hairs here for a reasonable price you can make money.’
On this trip Werner was attempting to carry home two suitcases, two holdalls and a cardboard box all full of hair. If he managed to get the 40 kilos back to Germany he would make over £1500 profit (nearly $2500 profit).
Tirumala's income from human hair is in a different league. Last year they made just under £4 million ($6 million).
The money that is raised at the temple funds accommodation and other facilities for the pilgrims. The rest goes to a charitable foundation that runs numerous organisations including three hospitals, an orphanage, a university, and religious training institutions.
blazingthru
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I understand to some degree, but feel that was very inappropriate this is something that should be handle by the woman ministry and it (in my opinion)should be handle a total different way, not from the pulpit these Pastors really floor me with the stuff they feel they have the right to say.
Tell me some strong reasons why I should not being doing this or that. For instance a pastor said we should not be eating chocolate. I was stunned and paid attention
He listed the reasons : Theobromine. I have not eaten anything with chocolate since. But first I sat down and researched what he said and it cured me from my addiction. I won't touch the stuff. But he was preaching on Diet and saying some foods we eat are poisoning us.
Chocolate is believed to cause heartburn because of one of its constituents, theobromine, relaxes the esophageal sphincter muscle, hence permitting stomach acidic contents to enter into the esophagus.[81] Theobromine is also toxic to many animals because they are unable to metabolize it (see theobromine poisoning).[3]
The unconstrained consumption of large quantities of any energy-rich food, such as chocolate, without a corresponding increase in activity, is thought to increase the risk of obesity. Raw chocolate is high in cocoa butter, a fat which is removed during chocolate refining, then added back in varying proportions during the manufacturing process. Manufacturers may add other fats, sugars, and milk as well, all of which increase the caloric content of chocolate.
Chocolate and cocoa contain moderate to high amounts of oxalate,[82][83][84][85][86][87] which can cause some health concerns particularly for individuals at risk for kidney stones.[88]
Chocolate absorbs lead from the environment during production, and there is a slight concern of mild lead poisoning for some types of chocolate. In a study from Nigeria, the average lead concentration of cocoa beans was less than 0.5 ng/g, among the lowest reported values for a natural food, with lead concentrations ranging from 70–230 ng/g for raw and processed cocoa.[89] These measurements "are consistent with market-basket surveys that have repeatedly listed lead concentrations in chocolate products among the highest reported for all foods. One source of contamination of the finished products is tentatively attributed to atmospheric emissions of leaded gasoline, which is still being used in Nigeria."[89] The figures are still comparatively low when compared to 200,000 ng, which is the WHO tolerable daily limit for lead consumption.[90]
Research on elderly people showed chocolate might cause osteoporosis.[91]
A few studies have documented allergic reactions with chocolate in children.[81]
There is some evidence that chocolate may be addictive.[92][93]
Tell me some strong reasons why I should not being doing this or that. For instance a pastor said we should not be eating chocolate. I was stunned and paid attention
He listed the reasons : Theobromine. I have not eaten anything with chocolate since. But first I sat down and researched what he said and it cured me from my addiction. I won't touch the stuff. But he was preaching on Diet and saying some foods we eat are poisoning us.
Chocolate is believed to cause heartburn because of one of its constituents, theobromine, relaxes the esophageal sphincter muscle, hence permitting stomach acidic contents to enter into the esophagus.[81] Theobromine is also toxic to many animals because they are unable to metabolize it (see theobromine poisoning).[3]
The unconstrained consumption of large quantities of any energy-rich food, such as chocolate, without a corresponding increase in activity, is thought to increase the risk of obesity. Raw chocolate is high in cocoa butter, a fat which is removed during chocolate refining, then added back in varying proportions during the manufacturing process. Manufacturers may add other fats, sugars, and milk as well, all of which increase the caloric content of chocolate.
Chocolate and cocoa contain moderate to high amounts of oxalate,[82][83][84][85][86][87] which can cause some health concerns particularly for individuals at risk for kidney stones.[88]
Chocolate absorbs lead from the environment during production, and there is a slight concern of mild lead poisoning for some types of chocolate. In a study from Nigeria, the average lead concentration of cocoa beans was less than 0.5 ng/g, among the lowest reported values for a natural food, with lead concentrations ranging from 70–230 ng/g for raw and processed cocoa.[89] These measurements "are consistent with market-basket surveys that have repeatedly listed lead concentrations in chocolate products among the highest reported for all foods. One source of contamination of the finished products is tentatively attributed to atmospheric emissions of leaded gasoline, which is still being used in Nigeria."[89] The figures are still comparatively low when compared to 200,000 ng, which is the WHO tolerable daily limit for lead consumption.[90]
Research on elderly people showed chocolate might cause osteoporosis.[91]
A few studies have documented allergic reactions with chocolate in children.[81]
There is some evidence that chocolate may be addictive.[92][93]
MrsHaseeb
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And this is what women are putting on their heads... My question is, what demonic forces came with that hair?
I have a sincere question:
Where does non-human hair come from? I know a woman who wears extensions which are non-human and it looks better than human hair.
I also know several people here locally who donate hair for those who have cancer and have lost their hair. Not all human hair is demon transplanted.
The education above that huxtable shared is very enlightening. And for anyone who has that conviction, we respect it. No stones, no hisses, no boo's. The information is respected as well as those sharing. We do have to be 'aware'.
Yet, it all goes beyond the hair. The garments we wear, even the fabrics from fabric stores (on and off line), these things touch our bodies and Heaven only knows what has been their origin or who has worn them (tried on) or has prayed over those fabrics long before we purchased them.
The food we eat. There are 'witches' in restaurants, food stores, farms, factories, food processors, and we don't know what we are consuming. There are many people who work in the food industry who sincerely believe in food offerings to their gods, and they pray prayers over the foods that they are surrounded by. And we (unknowingly) eat these foods... all the time.
We sit in public seats where someone sat before us, who are devil worshippers. They are right here in this forum ....
We sit with witches on our jobs, we interact with them every... single... day. Witches come to Church.... every service, be it Saturday, Sunday, or Monday...whenever the Church doors are open.... they purpose to attend to 'scope' out the message and the people who listen, especially the Man or Woman of God who is Ministering.
A while back I started a thread on witchcraft, however it 'blew up' because the devil just didn't like it. The witches on this forum didn't like having their idols and worship minimized. It didn't matter to me... Jesus has set me free meaning that I am free to expose satan and his lies.
Here's my point... Nothing that we have in this life, here on this earth is exempt from the presence of evil. I can guarantee you, that if any one of you were in line today paying for your groceries, getting your hair 'did', or your nails 'did' or whatever..... you were 'touched' by one who practices some form or another of idol worship and/or witchcraft.
The devil is here in this earth, that's why.
My point in all of this is that it is more than 'hair' of which we must be aware. It's everything that we use to sustain life and this is why we are to pray over everything and dedicate it unto the Lord for His grace and mercies to prevail.
It's more than human hair. It does not stop there. It's everywhere, we are.
What shall we say to these things? Where am I going with this?
Fear not... for we have the authority in the Name of Jesus to cast out every evil spirit, and nothing shall by any means hurt us. (Luke 10)
Trust me, I 'get it'.... I truly do. I 'get it'. I understand the concerns about hair and whatever that has been offered up to idols (other gods). Our power is greater, because Jesus said so. Greater works shall we do, in His Name.
God is the originator of the hair, in the same manner as we say Grace, give the hair back unto God, dedicate it in prayer... allow God to confirm that is it okay with Him to wear the hair.
Be blessed.
Where does non-human hair come from? I know a woman who wears extensions which are non-human and it looks better than human hair.
I also know several people here locally who donate hair for those who have cancer and have lost their hair. Not all human hair is demon transplanted.
The education above that huxtable shared is very enlightening. And for anyone who has that conviction, we respect it. No stones, no hisses, no boo's. The information is respected as well as those sharing. We do have to be 'aware'.
Yet, it all goes beyond the hair. The garments we wear, even the fabrics from fabric stores (on and off line), these things touch our bodies and Heaven only knows what has been their origin or who has worn them (tried on) or has prayed over those fabrics long before we purchased them.
The food we eat. There are 'witches' in restaurants, food stores, farms, factories, food processors, and we don't know what we are consuming. There are many people who work in the food industry who sincerely believe in food offerings to their gods, and they pray prayers over the foods that they are surrounded by. And we (unknowingly) eat these foods... all the time.
We sit in public seats where someone sat before us, who are devil worshippers. They are right here in this forum ....
We sit with witches on our jobs, we interact with them every... single... day. Witches come to Church.... every service, be it Saturday, Sunday, or Monday...whenever the Church doors are open.... they purpose to attend to 'scope' out the message and the people who listen, especially the Man or Woman of God who is Ministering.
A while back I started a thread on witchcraft, however it 'blew up' because the devil just didn't like it. The witches on this forum didn't like having their idols and worship minimized. It didn't matter to me... Jesus has set me free meaning that I am free to expose satan and his lies.
Here's my point... Nothing that we have in this life, here on this earth is exempt from the presence of evil. I can guarantee you, that if any one of you were in line today paying for your groceries, getting your hair 'did', or your nails 'did' or whatever..... you were 'touched' by one who practices some form or another of idol worship and/or witchcraft.
The devil is here in this earth, that's why.
My point in all of this is that it is more than 'hair' of which we must be aware. It's everything that we use to sustain life and this is why we are to pray over everything and dedicate it unto the Lord for His grace and mercies to prevail.
It's more than human hair. It does not stop there. It's everywhere, we are.
What shall we say to these things? Where am I going with this?
Fear not... for we have the authority in the Name of Jesus to cast out every evil spirit, and nothing shall by any means hurt us. (Luke 10)
Trust me, I 'get it'.... I truly do. I 'get it'. I understand the concerns about hair and whatever that has been offered up to idols (other gods). Our power is greater, because Jesus said so. Greater works shall we do, in His Name.
God is the originator of the hair, in the same manner as we say Grace, give the hair back unto God, dedicate it in prayer... allow God to confirm that is it okay with Him to wear the hair.
Be blessed.
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I appreciate everyone's comments... my thing is, this must be a big-enough issue at this church for him to address it so poignantly. BAN is a heavy word to use. Not saying he's right about being dictatorial.. lol His approach needs prayer.
Well said, Shimmie... I agree to pray for him and all pastors, spiritual leaders, ministers of the Gospel, as prescribed by God. Many are called, few are chosen; They were either sent, or they went
Laela.... that dog in your siggy is wearing a fur hoodie.... made in China.
Sis, how do they make non-human hair wigs/weaves? It's a serious question.
I'm too lazy to google it.
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Iwanthealthyhair67
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I'm sure there's something on YouTube.
Okay....... I googled:
it's either synthetic fibers or..........
drum roll ....
'animal hair'.
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Oh em gee!
Nah uhhhhhh.... It's: gee em oh (gmo) genetically modified organisms...
Oooooooooo, that might mean chicken feathers.
ahhhhhh on 2nd thought:
Let's go back to Oh em gee....
Is there anything left that's sacred
Folks are wearing animal hair.... made in China. 
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