New Birth Crowns Eddie Long as King
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erplexed
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I wonder what he told his congregation once this was all over. Did he clarify that he is not a king? Did he tell them that there is only one King and His name is Jesus?
When guests come to a church, there are times that the minister/pastor of that church doesn't really know what is going to be said. He (Eddie Long) did not call himself a king, but this guest did. He went along with this, but he did not look too happy about it.
I'm really curious as to what he said about all of this after the fact.
If there is someone on this forum who goes to the church and knows, would you please PM me and let me know.
I'm not going to say anything. I will let my yea be yea and my nay be nay until further information.
When guests come to a church, there are times that the minister/pastor of that church doesn't really know what is going to be said. He (Eddie Long) did not call himself a king, but this guest did. He went along with this, but he did not look too happy about it.
I'm really curious as to what he said about all of this after the fact.
If there is someone on this forum who goes to the church and knows, would you please PM me and let me know.
I'm not going to say anything. I will let my yea be yea and my nay be nay until further information.
Rainbow Dash
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I could not watch the whole thing. A mess. It is full of manipulation to control the people even further. It is witchcraft. We are all made kings and priests unto our God only through Christ. There are no commoners in His King.
Folks are tired of this God king pastor foolishness. This is why many are running out for safety. It is not safe to sit under prideful, controlling leaders. They twist the scriptures to benefit their agenda and build their own kingdoms. But God is coming for all of this mess. They are bewitching the people of God and I am not scared to stand up against it. I am tired of this "don't put your mouth on the man of God". While they are steadily raping and robbing the people. Not so...wrong is wrong.
It is very important to know the Lord for yourself!!
Folks are tired of this God king pastor foolishness. This is why many are running out for safety. It is not safe to sit under prideful, controlling leaders. They twist the scriptures to benefit their agenda and build their own kingdoms. But God is coming for all of this mess. They are bewitching the people of God and I am not scared to stand up against it. I am tired of this "don't put your mouth on the man of God". While they are steadily raping and robbing the people. Not so...wrong is wrong.
It is very important to know the Lord for yourself!!
Ya'll just pray for the man and this congregation...prayer changes things...
I agree. I feel so broken for the Body of Christ and for everyopne involved in this heartbreak. We MUST Pray!
Rainbow Dash
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He is not above reproach.
Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 1 Tim 3:2-3
..."but that he should be a man against whom no charge of immorality, or of holding false doctrine, is alleged. His conduct should be irreprehensible or irreproachable. Undoubtedly it means that if "any" charge could be brought against him implying moral obliquity, he is not fit for the office. He should be a man of irreproachable character for truth, honesty, chastity, and general uprightness." Barnes Commentary
Therefore an overseer must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, sober-minded, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. 1 Tim 3:2-3
..."but that he should be a man against whom no charge of immorality, or of holding false doctrine, is alleged. His conduct should be irreprehensible or irreproachable. Undoubtedly it means that if "any" charge could be brought against him implying moral obliquity, he is not fit for the office. He should be a man of irreproachable character for truth, honesty, chastity, and general uprightness." Barnes Commentary
Laela
Sidestepping the "lynch mob"
Health&hair28, Shimmie, you know what? I did watch the vid and no words. Prayer is so needed. Exposure is good for the body of Christ, because it really hurts to see manipulation in the Body of Christ, no matter who it is! We really need to pray... the fight is in the spirit realm. It's may get tiring, but keep your arms propped up.
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Iwanthealthyhair67
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like many of you I have no words ...smh
Okay... for some reason, I'm not 'sensing' that he is comfortable with this. He seems 'distant'. I don't see him as feeling he is deserving of this. Perhaps he is feeling 'grateful' to have someone on his side.
I sense 'fear' in him, and perhaps a sense of being broken or in the process of it.
Here's one thing I know about God's Word. Whatever you say, it will come to pass. Meaning that this man has preached over and over about repentance and being right with God. Therefore these words will come to life in his life.
Remember when Nathan the Prophet met with King David and gave David the parable of the sin committed against Bathsheba's husband Uriah? Nathan said the man's only sheep was stolen... etc. David replied with a sentence upon the man who committed the sin. Nathan's response to David, "the man is 'YOU'.
(2 Samuel Chapter 12)Bishop Long cannot escape the Words of God which have proceeded from his mouth.
May I share this as well?
Somewhere in this whole mess, the facts have been exploited. I'm not validating Bishop Long. No, not at all.
It's just that something else is not right on the other side as well. I don't quite know what it is. Yet, I'm praying for repentance all around. The truth has to come forth to set everyone free, including the Church which has been so torn from all of this. Our Church Body needs healing from this. I hope my post is making sense, everyone. Let me know. I'm open and listening.
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Iwanthealthyhair67
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^^I watched the first 5-10 seconds (but read the article) I think I'll go back and check out out later
Thanks, "Healthy Hair".
I feel so compelled to pray for this man. Really pray. He's struggling with something and as well as I know that everyone has struggles, this man needs serious intercession. Maybe it's for strength to tell the truth. I don't know.
Seriously, I truly do not know what the 'real' truth is. The lies and withholding of 'evidence' is on both sides. Both sides are holding back the real truth. I pray that it's broken so that healing can prevail on all sides of this tragedy.
When someone prays and wraps a person in a ceremony such as this, the truth has to prevail. It's has to follow. Healing comes from telling the truth. They've prayed for his healing, therefore the truth has to prevail on all sides of this matter. .
LucieLoo12
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@Shimmie
Ok here is my two cents
The video was horrible. I did not feel as though Bishop Eddie was feeling uncomfortable with the whole thing. I seen a false humility. I am sorry...my spirit did not bear witness with that whole thing. Yes the word of God changes our lives but it is only changed when we APPLY it to our life.The doers of the word are justified before God. God was no where exalted in this at all. The whole"ceremony" was about Bishop Eddie Long. And the with the whole scroll thing? Talking about the scroll was 60k? Where was the salvation at in this? Really? and wrapping it around him and lifting him up in the chair? Who really got the glory in this because it sure wasnt God. This was a pure publicity stunt to get the people's mind off of whats really going on. This was manipulative and unbiblical. I know I may get some side eyes for the comment, but come on. I know we want to look at things purely, but sometimes we got to see it for what it really is.
Yes I want salvation for Bishop Eddie and all of New Birth, but thats not going to happen if people keep sweeping stuff under the rug and covering it up. And glossing it over with ceremonies.
Do I believe in forgiveness? Yeeeesss of course.Even if Bishop Eddie did commit those crimes...i believe God can heal, deliever and restore. But delieverance has to take place. Yes Bishop needs pray, please pray for him because I am. But I am more worried about those sheep in that church than everything. Deception. Even if a cloth was wrapped around him, it dont means deliverance has taken place.
Ok here is my two cents
The video was horrible. I did not feel as though Bishop Eddie was feeling uncomfortable with the whole thing. I seen a false humility. I am sorry...my spirit did not bear witness with that whole thing. Yes the word of God changes our lives but it is only changed when we APPLY it to our life.The doers of the word are justified before God. God was no where exalted in this at all. The whole"ceremony" was about Bishop Eddie Long. And the with the whole scroll thing? Talking about the scroll was 60k? Where was the salvation at in this? Really? and wrapping it around him and lifting him up in the chair? Who really got the glory in this because it sure wasnt God. This was a pure publicity stunt to get the people's mind off of whats really going on. This was manipulative and unbiblical. I know I may get some side eyes for the comment, but come on. I know we want to look at things purely, but sometimes we got to see it for what it really is.
Yes I want salvation for Bishop Eddie and all of New Birth, but thats not going to happen if people keep sweeping stuff under the rug and covering it up. And glossing it over with ceremonies.
Do I believe in forgiveness? Yeeeesss of course.Even if Bishop Eddie did commit those crimes...i believe God can heal, deliever and restore. But delieverance has to take place. Yes Bishop needs pray, please pray for him because I am. But I am more worried about those sheep in that church than everything. Deception. Even if a cloth was wrapped around him, it dont means deliverance has taken place.
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@Shimmie
Ok here is my two cents
The video was horrible. I did not feel as though Bishop Eddie was feeling uncomfortable with the whole thing. I seen a false humility. I am sorry...my spirit did not bear witness with that whole thing. Yes the word of God changes our lives but it is only changed when we APPLY it to our life.The doers of the word are justified before God. God was no where exalted in this at all. The whole"ceremony" was about Bishop Eddie Long. And the with the whole scroll thing? Talking about the scroll was 60k? Where was the salvation at in this? Really? and wrapping it around him and lifting him up in the chair? Who really got the glory in this because it sure wasnt God. This was a pure publicity stunt to get the people's mind off of whats really going on. This was manipulative and unbiblical. I know I may get some side eyes for the comment, but come on. I know we want to look at things purely, but sometimes we got to see it for what it really is.
Yes I want salvation for Bishop Eddie and all of New Birth, but thats not going to happen if people keep sweeping stuff under the rug and covering it up. And glossing it over with ceremonies.
Do I believe in forgiveness? Yeeeesss of course.Even if Bishop Eddie did commit those crimes...i believe God can heal, deliever and restore. But delieverance has to take place. Yes Bishop needs pray, please pray for him because I am. But I am more worried about those sheep in that church than everything. Deception. Even if a cloth was wrapped around him, it dont means deliverance has taken place.
No side eyes, Love... none at all. I love your honesty.
LucieLoo12
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LucieLoo12
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2 Peter 2:18-20
King James Version (KJV)
18For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
I just wanted to post this because we can't be deceived and think that just because someone speaks the word of God that they themselves are living a life of delieverance (speaking generally). The scripture shows us that they may be speaking deliverance and themselves be bound .
King James Version (KJV)
18For when they speak great swelling words of vanity, they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.
19While they promise them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage. 20For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
I just wanted to post this because we can't be deceived and think that just because someone speaks the word of God that they themselves are living a life of delieverance (speaking generally). The scripture shows us that they may be speaking deliverance and themselves be bound .
I totally agree, Alicia. That 'ceremony' was totally out of order and too far gone. Be he guilty or innocent, the ceremony was way too much. I'm not so sure, Bishop Long was in agreement or at least comfortable with it.
LucieLoo12
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Shimmie
You don't think he knew ahead of time this was going to happen?
You don't think he knew ahead of time this was going to happen?
I totally agree, Alicia. That 'ceremony' was totally out of order and too far gone. Be he guilty or innocent, the ceremony was way too much. I'm not so sure, Bishop Long was in agreement or at least comfortable with it.
Iwanthealthyhair67
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if he really didn't know and was really uncomfortable, he should have stopped and point everything back to God and say he is not worthy of such and only God deserves such an honour and glory...that action whould have spoken to his humility...
I hope not...
Agreed... I would have stopped it. Especially when that chair was lifted. That was 'surely' a wide and heavy load. The chair its self has some weight on it without anyone sitting in it.
Each of you 'know' how hard I am on folks and situations. I don't hold back nor spare any punches.
So, What is it that I'm 'feeling' here? There's a pool of saddess all around this issue. When I see this man, I feel yielded to pray. Something is going on and I need to pray.
I feel so bad about this confusion.
SummerSolstice
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all i see is self-praise and self-righteousness and I am disgusted.
I also laughed at around 7:00 and after it was just too much
*All the glory belongs to you... All the glory belongs to you ooooh God...*
And I know the Jewish population must be embarrassed and offended as well -_-
I also laughed at around 7:00 and after
it was just too much*All the glory belongs to you... All the glory belongs to you ooooh God...*
And I know the Jewish population must be embarrassed and offended as well -_-
LucieLoo12
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Its not wrong for feeling bad for him! Thats good Shimmie. Thats called compassion. But I promise you, if he is a sheep of God, God is dealing with his heart and sending him witnesses and salvation. But its up to him to respond..
I hope not...
Agreed... I would have stopped it. Especially when that chair was lifted. That was 'surely' a wide and heavy load. The chair its self has some weight on it without anyone sitting in it.
Each of you 'know' how hard I am on folks and situations. I don't hold back nor spare any punches.
So, What is it that I'm 'feeling' here? There's a pool of saddess all around this issue. When I see this man, I feel yielded to pray. Something is going on and I need to pray.
I feel so bad about this confusion.
Laela
Sidestepping the "lynch mob"
Being compassionate toward someone and ''feeling sorry for' or 'pitiying' them are two different things.... You're compassionate toward him because you want the best for him, inspite of his situation/actions. Pity is evoked from emotion.... compassion is an act of Love.
ALICIALYNN, I'm trying to figure this out.. looks like he was surprised they did all that, but ITA he should've stopped it from taking place.
ALICIALYNN, I'm trying to figure this out.. looks like he was surprised they did all that, but ITA he should've stopped it from taking place.
I hope not...
Agreed... I would have stopped it. Especially when that chair was lifted. That was 'surely' a wide and heavy load. The chair its self has some weight on it without anyone sitting in it.
Each of you 'know' how hard I am on folks and situations. I don't hold back nor spare any punches.
So, What is it that I'm 'feeling' here? There's a pool of saddess all around this issue. When I see this man, I feel yielded to pray. Something is going on and I need to pray.
I feel so bad about this confusion.
Rainbow Dash
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I feel sorry for the people that can't see, that can't discern what they are sitting under. My prayer is "Lord open their eyes that they will see You and not look at a man." Christ is the only King.
We are to pray and we are to sound the alarm and warn God's people. I am willing to open my mouth for God's people.
Paul warned the church against false teachers and false prophets that would come in.
Leadership is designed to lead the people to maturity in Christ, so that the Kingdom of God will grow and expand. To push them into Christ. It is not to have the people look to them.
We are to pray and we are to sound the alarm and warn God's people. I am willing to open my mouth for God's people.
Paul warned the church against false teachers and false prophets that would come in.
Leadership is designed to lead the people to maturity in Christ, so that the Kingdom of God will grow and expand. To push them into Christ. It is not to have the people look to them.
LucieLoo12
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You ladies have expressed what I think really needed to be said in this thread. This whole topic of Bishop Long and New Birth is a sore one for me, as we got into heated fellowship around here when this story broke. Just to see so many people being deceived by what appears to be Bishop Long's "coronation" and "celebration" really grieves my spirit. And yet I do agree with @Shimmie that there was something on his face ... he seemed almost to be convicted by the whole affair. And yet he didn't stop it.
Recent reports in Atlanta say that he and First Lady Vanessa are divorcing, and I agree that there is a whole lot more to this story that isn't uncovered. I will be praying for all parties involved too.
May God have mercy on New Birth. I pray that they find the "new birth" that they seek.
Recent reports in Atlanta say that he and First Lady Vanessa are divorcing, and I agree that there is a whole lot more to this story that isn't uncovered. I will be praying for all parties involved too.
May God have mercy on New Birth. I pray that they find the "new birth" that they seek.
This made me..ok im done.
But did you see that chair.... high up in da' air ?
Now see had one of those men had been holding a grudge... his face would have been wearing a 'smudge'. Holla' Tim bbbbbbeeeerrrrrrrr .
Iwanthealthyhair67
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lol, at wide and heavy load ...'surely' sounds like a burden to me, Lord forgive me ...but yes I understand when you say that you feel a need to pray... he is still puffed up in pride ...I'm praying too cause I know that God CAN turn this situation around...
I hope not...
Agreed... I would have stopped it. Especially when that chair was lifted. That was 'surely' a wide and heavy load. The chair its self has some weight on it without anyone sitting in it.
Each of you 'know' how hard I am on folks and situations. I don't hold back nor spare any punches.
So, What is it that I'm 'feeling' here? There's a pool of saddess all around this issue. When I see this man, I feel yielded to pray. Something is going on and I need to pray.
I feel so bad about this confusion.
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