Micono...WHADAHECK???

[HoneyDew]

I can understand why people doubt though. I'm sitting here with all this new growth 3 wks after my last TU, and I still find it hard to believe!!!

I felt the same way. It was really hard to believe even after seeing it and feeling it for myself.

 

[*Frisky*]

I haven't even used MN since last Thursday and I washed my hair this weekend and I can see waves about 1/4 of an inch maybe a little shorter at my roots and my last touch up was 2 weeks ago.

 

[determine3]

One thing I do know is that these growth aids DO work! I posted a thread a while back how MTG grew my mom's friends hair out. She had bald patches that she tried to grow out for years.......I mean, these spots do not have APL hair yet but there is definatly serious growth. She is so excited!

 

[sugaplum]

What a great thread. I bought my Neosporin AF on Satuday from Walgreen's for $7.50. I have been applying it every night. I little does go a long way with this cream. So far so good. I will post my progress here.

 

[BSweet]

i seriously cannot comb my hair...im applying every other day..sometimes every 2 days..i just need a blow out so bad..i have like 2 more weeks before its even time for my 2 month touch up..i know a blowout will seriously help tho....i guess its a good thing

 

[BSweet]

I just had to say that I started using MN about two weeks ago (a week after my last TU). I noticed that it made my roots feel kind of rough. Then, as my two week mark was approaching (2 wks using MN), I thought for sure it's not working. I thought these ladies just think it's working because their roots feel like new growth, when it's not all new growth. But now I'm three weeks post relaxer and I already have 1/2 inch of new growth (measured my hair before I started and then again this weekend). And I know I usually get about 3/4 inch every 8 weeks.

I can understand why people doubt though. I'm sitting here with all this new growth 3 wks after my last TU, and I still find it hard to believe!!!

lol I SERIOUSLY thought my roots were reverting from the relaxer i just got..but then i saw length

 

[sareca]

Sure, anything is possible... but I think it's more psychological than anything...

Let me tell you my experience...

The only product I tried since being here on LHCF was Surge for a month or two, and I did the Stinky Challenge (I used Sulfur 8, Glovers, and Frenchee) for a week (could not stand putting my fingers in that crap to put on my scalp). This was back in 2004 or 2005. None of that stuff made my hair grow any faster. I felt so stupid for even jumping on the bandwagon. I realized that nothing applied to the scalp can make it grow faster... faster growth comes from within (genetics and how you take care of your body). Plus, I know my hair will grow without all that gunk on my scalp.

The products may help retain length by protecting the hair from breakage, but it will not make it grow faster. I've seen all the comparison shots and such from using these so-called growth aids and it's not a dramatic difference of growth.

Just my 2 cents...

I can see where you are coming from. I'd feel stupid if EVERYTHING I tried failed too. But, cancer treatments don't work for everyone (obviously). Does that mean they don't work or when they do it's psychological? No. As you said everybody's genetics are different. Keep in mind, a reason something doesn't work can also be psychological.

 

[Cichelle]

I just am not going to put anti-fungal medication on my scalp when I don't have a fungal infection. But that's my personal choice and I am not going to look down on those who choose differently.

About the growth, well...I haven't seen any proof of spectacular growth. The results I have seen show an average growth rate...one that I get without using the cream. Maybe I am missing something, though, because I do not read every thread on MN.

I suppose I could change my mind in the future. But for now, I'm kind of interested in seeing how my hair grows with just plain old good nutrition and TLC.

 

[qtgirl]

Anyone can use whatever they want on their head/scalp/hair, however if it isn't formulated specifically for that part of your body whether it has the same active ingredient or not, I would not use it on my scalp.

When chemists make products they base the strength on what part of the skin it belongs on depending on the make-up of that part of the skin, i.e. why you wouldn't use a heavy cream around your eyes because the skin is more delicate there, etc. So people may be getting increased growth with these products, but they are also putting themselves at a bigger risk for side effects for using a product not in the manner that it was intended.

 

[alonshaw]

lol I SERIOUSLY thought my roots were reverting from the relaxer i just got..but then i saw length

yeah i'm still in awe. I seriously cannot handle all this new growth, with the vitamins i'm taking and the MN, this new growth is so coily aqdn thick, i havent experienced this since i was in elementary school. I Want A Permmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!(But its too early and prom is only a couple weeks away)

 

[beyondcute]

I posted this yesterday and it disappeared. (I'd also like to know WHY it was removed. Are the makers of the product sponsers or something?)

My question was whether or not I (and the 7 other people who'd posted in it) was the only person who thought using this was a bad idea. I mean...the headache thing alone scared me into thinking it might not be the best thing to do.

YEAH! What happened to the thread! What happened to freedom of speech? Thats an honest rip-off! DC I think it was removed cuz some people dont liek thier kool-aid being stirred.

 

[*Frisky*]

YEAH! What happened to the thread! What happened to freedom of speech? Thats an honest rip-off! DC I think it was removed cuz some people dont liek thier kool-aid being stirred.

Well I hate that I missed that thread..it must have had some die hard opinions on there.

 

[CreoleInDC]

Well I hate that I missed that thread..it must have had some die hard opinions on there.

Not really. It was just like this one. I asked a couple of Administrators about it and they said that sometimes threads just disappear. So I just started a new one.

 

[goldensensation]

Not really. It was just like this one. I asked a couple of Administrators about it and they said that sometimes threads just disappear. So I just started a new one.

Uh oh. The Hair-board Triangle.
Guess we flew into that one.

 

[HoneyDew]

Not really. It was just like this one. I asked a couple of Administrators about it and they said that sometimes threads just disappear. So I just started a new one.

that's odd.

 

[Aalize]

that's odd.

Yes it is. I remember posting in that thread and when I came back my comment was gone. (I didn't realize this was a new thread).

 

[Blaque*Angel]

You are right. I know my growth rate and I also know there are products that I have used that have increased it. I can tell by how much new growth I have and how much sooner it seems that I need to get a touch up.

Also, multiple people have the same/similar results.

But, I don't think it is something that I have to convince anyone of. I can just do my thing for me.

I nod my head at this comment honeydew
i'm not sure why there are so many non believers about topical products...
i praise MTG, my hair has not been this thick in 10 years....is that a coincidence too?psychological?

no offence but i think the peeps who say such negativity try the products on the down low it dont work for them, so they say "topical products dont work!" well, i know they do!!!

 

[Enchantmt]

I posted this yesterday and it disappeared. (I'd also like to know WHY it was removed. Are the makers of the product sponsers or something?)

YEAH! What happened to the thread! What happened to freedom of speech? Thats an honest rip-off! DC I think it was removed cuz some people dont liek thier kool-aid being stirred.

The tone of these comments imply the LHCF administration would remove a topic simply because one of the admins didnt agree with the subject matter and only serves to incite hostilities between the admin and board members. Armyqt and Allandra have both inquired of all the mods and no one remembered seeing let alone deleting your thread.

To clarify, when threads are "deleted" by mods we dont completely delete them, we move them to a different area so that there is a record of when and why it was moved and we usually PM the OP letting them know why it was deleted from view. If there was a problem (drama) within a thread we would have simply locked it and left it viewable unless continuing to leave it visible would have fed into more drama.

I also have had post and threads I've created disappear without a trace, so I can promise you there is no "conspiracy" to remove threads to keep topics from being discussed, especially a topic that has been discussed several times over the past couple of years. BTW... Miconazole nitrate is just an ingredient. Monistat and Neosporin and brand names and no they are not sponsors.

In the future, if anyone has any questions about why or if a thread was moved, please PM one of the mods and we will check into it and get back to you. Please dont make comments implying we would lie about it or remove it as part of a personal vendetta.

 

[Aalize]

i'm not sure why there are so many non believers about topical products...

I don't doubt that topical products such as MTG and Monistat and whatever work. But there's people (like myself) who refuse to put horse products and coochie cream on their heads. That's all.

 

[HoneyDew]

The tone of these comments imply the LHCF administration would remove a topic simply because one of the admins didnt agree with the subject matter and only serves to incite hostilities between the admin and board members. Armyqt and Allandra have both inquired of all the mods and no one remembered seeing let alone deleting your thread.

To clarify, when threads are "deleted" by mods we dont completely delete them, we move them to a different area so that there is a record of when and why it was moved and we usually PM the OP letting them know why it was deleted from view. If there was a problem (drama) within a thread we would have simply locked it and left it viewable unless continuing to leave it visible would have fed into more drama.

I also have had post and threads I've created disappear without a trace, so I can promise you there is no "conspiracy" to remove threads to keep topics from being discussed, especially a topic that has been discussed several times over the past couple of years. BTW... Miconazole nitrate is just an ingredient. Monistat and Neosporin and brand names and no they are not sponsors.

In the future, if anyone has any questions about why or if a thread was moved, please PM one of the mods and we will check into it and get back to you. Please dont make comments implying we would lie about it or remove it as part of a personal vendetta.

You know, there have been threads that I liked because of the information in them. Then a few weeks later, I do a search and the thread would be gone. That has happened a couple of times over the last year actually. Those cases must be the same as CID's thread.

 

[HoneyDew]

I don't doubt that topical products such as MTG and Monistat and whatever work. But there's people (like myself) who refuse to put horse products and coochie cream on their heads. That's all.

"coochie cream"? No offense, but I don't think was exactly appropriate. Besides, as Enchantmt said, Miconazole Nitrate is just an ingredient. Monistat, Neosporin AF, Lotrimin, Diabet-x and others are just brand names.

 

[RabiaElaine]

I was the one who posted about finding MN in the dollar store. I have been using it a little less than a week after using 1 whole tube of Neosporin AF. So far I have absolutely now side affects (I've been on MN for 2 1/2 weeks now). I am noticing growth. I don't have an exact measurement but it's around a 1/2 inch. I decided to try the $1 store brand just to see if I could get results from it. The moment I see a problem with it in my hair, I will drop it immediately! I plan to use it for the next month or so and then assess my progress and the effects on my hair. I actually noticed that when I washed my hair last I lost less hair than usual (I don't think this is a result of using MN, but at least I know it's not causing me to lose hair at this point).

I say it's ok for us to agree to disagree about this product and others. If it works for you then go ahead and use it, if it doesn't or you don't want to try it then don't and it's ok.

As for not achieving any extrodinary growth with MN, for me personally even if it only gets me a 1/4 inch more than I usually get, I'm still gonna happily take that 1/4 inch!!! It will help me get to my goals just a little sooner.

 

[LaNecia]

You know, there have been threads that I liked because of the information in them. Then a few weeks later, I do a search and the thread would be gone. That has happened a couple of times over the last year actually. Those cases must be the same as CID's thread.

I've noticed this too so what I do is print them in PDF format so I have a copy and I append the pages every so often. Then if I can't find the thread online anymore, I still have the copy on my harddrive.

 

[Summer_Rain]

originally, i was a skeptic of MTG (during my lurker days) but I was so desperate for growth, that i decided to take a chance on it. Within weeks i began to expeirence a noticable change in the thickness & new growth of my hair. however, because my diet and other health habits didnt change, some of my old breakage problems still persisted.

so, IMHO - ultimately a total mind&body change is required for any product to work...if it indeed WILL work for your hair

 

[Blaque*Angel]

I don't doubt that topical products such as MTG and Monistat and whatever work. But there's people (like myself) who refuse to put horse products and coochie cream on their heads. That's all.

Well, that's good for you! MTG was originally made for humans!!!
coochie cream is not the name of the product btw...

 

[KhandiB]

Yeah see Im not using that stuff,
To each its own, but I dont believe that its just th MTG or just the Monistat or Neosporin or whatever..

Its a combination of things, If you use MTG and still use heat everyday youre not going to have the same results as someone who used MTG and decides to use no heat in conjunction. I mean I have seen people achieve great hair growth just by not using heat period.

But although its interesting to see all the progress some have made with these products.. I cant get with it.

 

[FlowerHair]

Not that it's a bad idea or anything, I just don't see the point of putting this stuff on your scalp; it doesn't make sense to me unless you have some type of infection or fungus on your scalp...I don't think it's nasty or anything like that... I just believe no topical cream or product is going to make your hair grow at a faster rate.

ITA.
I don't believe in all these fads personally, but to each her own. It's a free world

 

[Sistaslick]

I'm not sure why there are so many non believers about topical products...
i praise MTG, my hair has not been this thick in 10 years....is that a coincidence too?psychological?

no offence but i think the peeps who say such negativity try the products on the down low it dont work for them, so they say "topical products dont work!" well, i know they do!!!

I can assure you, that this is NOT the case over here And I've seen people who speak against the use of growth aids being referred to as "haters"-- and that seriously offends me. I encourage everyone who's reaching for hair goals regardless of the methods they use to get there. I just happen to not be a proponent of "growth aids." I posted this on another site-- but might as well stick it here too.

I don't try to knock anyone's hair experiments, goals and progress-- so if people can see results with these products then go for it. But for me personally (note the word personally ), I'm not convinced. I watch the threads on all of the sites as they crop up -- but for me, I have never felt compelled to act on any of these products. Some of these bandwagons have been trucking for so long you'd think there would be waistlengthers and brastrappers popping up all over the place. I'm not really seeing anyone getting to the any of the hair milestones any faster than the folks who are simply going about it the good old fashioned way, with simple good hair care. At 1 inch a month--12 inches a year . . . (nearly double the genetic average growth rate for any human being in tip top health) I'd just expect to see a few more documented success stories over the long term. You see a few stories here and there, but the growth/thickness is the same growth that you would have gotten by simply practicing healthy hair care in the first place. I'm not saying that no one is seeing growth or people are dilusional-- but as long as you are alive your hair is going to grow and thicken up. Especially if other areas of your regimen are on point.

I still think that many people don't realize how long an inch or two of hair actually is. In hair and added length terms, that is pretty long. I love ya'll and believe much of what you say -- but I am a visual person. If you've been posting about getting 1 inch per month for the last 6-8 months... I want to see a pic with you with hair 6-8 inches longer at some point along the way. Now of course pics are not a requirement, but they do tremendously help substantiate the claims and offer a bit of validity. So far, I just have not seen it. Then occasionally there is a post about the growth being so much that the aid was discontinued. Or a scissor happy stylist cutting away all the progress The moment I see a person with 1-2inch per month show up with 9-12 inches (making room for trims to be fair) at the end of a year-- I will shut my mouth of dissent forever. I promise.

I just think that too much emphasis is being placed on the scalp. The scalp is doing its job-- we are usually the ones falling short. I like to think that many of us give credit to topical growth aids that our own body and good hair care are due. The hair is constantly, constantly growing-- in lulls and in spurts in everyone. I believe in the power of a healthy body and I don't think these things are giving us growth we wouldn't have gotten on our own. (I'm an optimist). I don't use any growth aids and my hair goes through periods of great growth and slower periods. And it really gets me when newbies show up with a newly created regimens w/ mtg or something else in it before they have any real moisturizers. I just see alot of people looking for get growth quick schemes w/o ever really trying to figure out what their hair really needs to be taken care of. I came to the boards to get away from that kind of thinking-- I wanted to learn healthy hair care.



I try to stay out of threads like these because I know alot of people on both sides have emotions tied up in their posts. I hope no one is offended by anthing I posted-- because that is definitely not my intention at all. *prepares for stoning*

 

[LaNecia]

I hope no one is offended by anthing I posted-- because that is definitely not my intention at all. *prepares for stoning*

E-X-C-E-L-L-E-N-T POST!! No stones from me!

 

[HealthyHair35]

Hi ladies. I have questions and observations. I have thinning in the crown of my head, a little on the sides. My mom and sister have a full head of hair, no thinning. My mom is 65. So I have been researching. Stress, nutrition, inherited traits and so forth. Well, I got to thinking about my dog. Certain times of the year he gets what they call hot patches. His hair falls out. I use a cream for the itching the hair grows back in. Hmmmm? So I researched "hot patches." Well it is called demodex. Caused by mites. Mites are on us all the time but SOMETIMES in people and animals their is an abundance of them. Their secretions and carcuses clog hair follicles which cause rashes, bumps and in some cases hair follicles to fall out. I'm saying all of this to say, do you guys think that the miconozale may kill some of the mites making your scalp a healthier environmment for new follicles and old follicles to prosper in???? Just a thought. I am at a loss and have not tried the miconozale yet but it is looking more and more tempting. The research also says that tea tree oil, emu oil, neem oil and several other things help also. Including the chemical used for dog mange. A little food for thought. Let me know what you think.